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Me No Understand Somalia Advice

posted at 3:29 am on December 27, 2006 by see-dubya
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I’m just a simple unfrozen cave-man blogger. Your modern “diplomacy” and “negotiation” confuse and frighten me. So maybe someone can clarify this:

Somalia is largely run by an Al-Qaeda-linked Taliban-style Islamist theocracy that has declared war on Ethiopia. Today, Ethiopia strikes down upon them with great vengeance and furious anger. And our leading lights react by immediately trying to find a diplomatic way to stop them. Here’s Alejandro Wolff, John Bolton’s acting replacement–who does first make the case about the threat against Ethiopia being real, but then concludes:

The Security Council “shares the view that this is a situation that has to resolve itself through dialogue by the parties inside Somalia, calling on all sides to refrain from further violence, and particularly to respect humanitarian rights and law,” he said.

Now we all know when you’re a diplomat, you have to say some of this horsehockey, and say it with a straight face. But does anyone really believe it? Wouldn’t a terse statement reiterating the Bush doctrine about terror-linked states send the message we want to send?

That guy is a diplomat, so I’ll let him off easy. But this well-informed fellow at the Naval War College, writing in the WSJ: what’s his excuse?

Thus far, the major powers have tacitly allowed Ethiopia and Eritrea to keep assets deployed in Somalia while pressuring both to refrain from escalating to all-out war. But these weak constraints cannot produce operational equilibrium between the TFG and the Islamic Courts Union for long enough to allow effective major-power attention to gravitate to Somalia before war arises.
Absent an unattainably strong peace-enforcement contingent, the only solution would appear to be robust diplomacy aimed at stabilizing the Somali situation by a power-sharing arrangement between the TFG and the Islamic Courts.

What the hell? A power-sharing arrangement with a barbaric Islamist enemy? Get out of the city!

Ethiopia is far from perfect and their human rights record is…well, not that bad for Africa, actually. But you’re going to have to work pretty hard to convince me and the two million Americans who care about what happens here that this is anything but “We Are The World” versus “Black Hawk Down”. One of them soaked up our charity in the eighties and was grateful and began making some progress. The other soaked up our charity, then turned on us, declared war, and dragged our servicemen’s bodies through their streets.

Me, I’m popping popcorn. Ethiopia wants to win. I say let ‘em.


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Hey, they gave you a set of ‘keys to the castle’, See-Dub!!!… (if this happened days earlier, forgive me, I haven’t been paying much attention.)

Anyway, I agree; Ethiopia whoopin’ up on the islamofascists was about the only good stuff I’ve heard lately.

LegendHasIt on December 27, 2006 at 3:36 AM

We’ve already committed to helping Ethiopia and Kenya contain the radical Islamic menace. There may be some squawking in the media, but I don’t believe that it will amount to anything.

geoff on December 27, 2006 at 3:40 AM

War is bad, Peace is good, Peace without victory is submission… I will not submit!

Gwillie on December 27, 2006 at 4:09 AM

Like the slogan says, this is so easy, even a caveman could do it. We still owe the Somalis an asskicking, but for now I’d be willing to settle for the Ethiopians doing the job as long as it gets done. As for the U.N., it’s impotent, corrupt, and feckless–f*ck them, and f*ck the enemedia.

ReubenJCogburn on December 27, 2006 at 4:24 AM

Maybe I missed it, but when the Islamists were forcibly taking over Somalia I don’t recall these dicklomats encouraging dialogue. And when the Mullah’s declared anyone not praying 5 times a day would be executed, I don’t recall seeing any of these politicians saying that’d be a bad thing. But Ethiopia defends themselves from a violent enemy and now they’re the bad guys or something? Bah.

wolfva on December 27, 2006 at 4:24 AM

Ethiopia is exercising it’s right as a sovereign nation to defend itself from an imminent threat. Their efforts should be applauded, encouraged, and supported; as opposed to being THWARTED by useless diplo-speak at the United Nations.

Somalia has been a cesspool for some time now. Any change there would be an improvement, and any action that slows militant Islam’s growth in Africa, or anywhere else, is a Godsend.

hillbillyjim on December 27, 2006 at 6:24 AM

I expect America’s treason class (the MSM, liberals, and the Democratic Party) to object strongly to Ethiopia’s war on Al Qaeda in Somalia. I expect them to demand that Ethiopia withdraw unilaterally and unconditionally from Somalia.

Why?

Because all their actions since March of 2003 has been to sabotage America’s war against Al Qaeda and the other Islamofascist states including Iraq. And now they are DEMANDING that there be no “surge” of troops in Iraq, but a unilateral withdrawal — cut and run!

So why wouldn’t they attempt to undermine and sabotage the destruction of Al Qaeda as it tries to take over Somalia?

We have a sizable military force next door and we should be prepared to give Ethiopia what ever assistance it needs, though at this point, they have the Islamofascists on the run. Al Qaeda running Somalia will turn Somalia into Afghanistan and become a base for planning and executing attacks upon the United States. We cannot allow that to happen.

georgej on December 27, 2006 at 6:44 AM

Diplomacy without teeth is bullsh*t. All we’ve got now is diplomacy with teeth-gnashing.

Remember how well diplomacy worked in the ’30s when Japan attacked China, Italy attacked Ethiopia(!) and Germany grabbed the Sudetenland?

flipflop on December 27, 2006 at 6:45 AM

I’m wondering why we – with the supposedly greatest military in the world, no? – let the situation get so out of hand in Somalia? Aren’t we fighting a war on terrorism, or is that now so yesterday? Why do I get the sinking feeling our leaders (hello W, where are you?) are just wishing this would go away, instead of preemptively making sure it never happened in the first place? Are we that paralyzed now??? that scared of what stupid names the “anti-war” moonbats will call us?

Halley on December 27, 2006 at 7:47 AM

This is the current state of democracy… /ie. dying.

Griz on December 27, 2006 at 7:53 AM

Ethiopia fought the Italian Army to a standstill…The Italians had tanks, heavy artillery, etc., while the Etiopians had some guns and a lot of spears…I say step back outta the way and let them kick some islamic butt.

DoctorDentons on December 27, 2006 at 8:25 AM

Great, with this going on the price of babies for Hollywood is going through the roof. U.N. needs oil for babies program, and a oil for slaves program.
One Solution: Ship lost of arms to both nations and make a few bucks. As someone once said “Let God sort them out”.

right2bright on December 27, 2006 at 8:51 AM

When are we going to kick the UN out of our country? If I want a limp dick, child raping, money stealing and corrupt organization trying to do something I’ll turn to the UN.

How much more money could we pour into our military budget for increasing the pay of the troops, lowering our taxes or building a secure border fence?

As a bonus we can turn the UN building into waterfront condos and increase the liberal tax base. Eminent domain, a case that works.

BTW, shouldn’t it be “UNAF”? United Nations Against Freedom

VikingGoneWild on December 27, 2006 at 8:55 AM

In a perverse way, it’s nice to see that it’s not only Israel they do this to.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on December 27, 2006 at 8:55 AM

If I want a limp dick, child raping, money stealing and corrupt organization trying to do something I’ll turn to the UN.

VikingGoneWild on December 27, 2006 at 8:55 AM

I love it when you talk like that, blondie.

Jaibones on December 27, 2006 at 9:23 AM

Congrats, See-Dubya, on joining the HA team.

We definitely need to support the Ethiopians… no, they’re not perfect, but I think fighting Islamofascists will be similiar to fighting Communists, to wit: “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”.

dalewalt on December 27, 2006 at 9:27 AM

Diplomats are about as useful as panties at Britney Spears’ house.

SouthernGent on December 27, 2006 at 9:42 AM

In a perverse way, it’s nice to see that it’s not only Israel they do this to.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on December 27, 2006 at 8:55 AM

It does actually strengthen the case that the UN is nothing but a body sheild for the Militant Muslim movement that’s trying to over run africa, Europe, and the middle east. It won’t be long till they’ll turn on Russia … more than they already have.

One Angry Christian on December 27, 2006 at 9:43 AM

I hate to say it, but Bush’s admirable “War on Terror” doctrine seems to be dead (or at least, on its last legs).

It has achieved some remarkable successes – demonstrated by the thwarting of terror plots across the world and the inability of Al Qaeda to launch a single attack on the U.S. since 9/11.

Groups like Al Qaeda & Hamas have been largely crippled by successful military action, effective security measures, good intelligence and the cutting of finances.

It’s a bitter irony then, that this successful war on terror has not been mortally wounded by terrorists, but by the seditionary actions of domestic “liberals”.

Five years of media pressure, Democratic party interference and general left wing moaning have made it increasingly uncomfortable for Bush to act.

The left will, of course, vocally deny any support of terror and extremism, but what other conclusion can one draw when their actions create tangible benefits for Islamofascists?

The impediment of the patriot act by the democratic party, the exposure of intelligence practices by the NY Times and the left’s general mischaracterization of terrorist surveillance as “domestic wiretapping” are three prime cases in point.

It’s also fair to say that the gusto with which the war on terror was initially pursued, dropped off dramatically with the somewhat tangential ousting of Saddam.

Of course Saddam was a tyrant and anyone with a conscience should be celebrating his demise, but Iraq was never as central to international terrorism as, say, Syria & Iran.

Had those regimes been neutered beforehand, the liberation of Iraq would have been a lot more straightforward.

Much as I admire Bush for being the only leader with the integrity to take the war to the Islamofascists, I think it is a crying shame that he feels the need to temper his policy with consideration for Liberals (see immigration). It doesn’t work anyway. They still hate him.

Ethiopia is not bothered by irrelevancies like the desire to please Liberals. Perhaps we should let them conduct the war in Iraq and against Hezbollah!

uptight on December 27, 2006 at 10:12 AM

Someone earlier asked, aren’t we fighting a war on terror? Yes, and that ended up being our first mistake. Terror is a tactic, not an enemy. The enemy of course is the jihadists, the islamo-fascists who commit the terror. In order to defeat the enemy you must do two things of many first; identify the enemy then allocate all resources to defeat this enemy. We have done neither unfortunately. We still can’t see the enemey and what action we’ve taken is the equivalent of taking a knife to a gun-fight……..

ritethinker on December 27, 2006 at 10:13 AM

Hey, I just realized that Starvin’ Marvin would be about military age by now. Sweeeet!

ReubenJCogburn on December 27, 2006 at 11:51 AM

Pray for Ethiopia to win. Something needs to stop the Islamist advance in Africa. This is just war.

PRCalDude on December 27, 2006 at 12:15 PM

“Let God sort them out”.

right2bright on December 27, 2006 at 8:51 AM

It was Pope Innocent III that said that, Read about it here.

CyberCipher on December 27, 2006 at 12:27 PM

As I understand it, there are many different groups fighting for power in Somalia. There’s a possibility that open U.S. support for Ethiopia will play into the hands of the islamists in Somalia (and beyond). The islamists are doing everything they can globally to appear as the only ones who are capable of opposing the U.S. That might be why Alejandro Wolf is pussying out.

xyan on December 27, 2006 at 12:42 PM

Me, I’m popping popcorn. Ethiopia wants to win. I say let ‘em.

Agreed.

MarkB on December 27, 2006 at 12:55 PM

Kickin’ @zz, takin’ names-Ethiopia’s defending itself, gonna win, now just watch some lousy b@st@rd step in and screw it all up.
Somalia asked for it, IMHO, got to big for it’s britches (redneck reference to pants).

tormod on December 27, 2006 at 1:39 PM

It’s Allah vs. Jah!

Tzetzes on December 27, 2006 at 4:17 PM

I’m just a simple unfrozen cave-man blogger. Your modern “diplomacy” and “negotiation” confuse and frighten me. So maybe someone can clarify this:

Somalia is largely run by an Al-Qaeda-linked Taliban-style Islamist theocracy that has declared war on Ethiopia. Today, Ethiopia strikes down upon them with great vengeance and furious anger.

Wow a reference to Phil Hartman and Pulp Fiction in a single post.

That alone is worthy of some creed.

F15Mech on December 27, 2006 at 10:43 PM

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