The Ambulance hoax was even more transparent…

Or should I say Ambulance hoaxes.

…then there is the Qana-II hoax, the Tire-fire hoax that was a Lebanese AirForce base hosting Hezbollah, the Gaza-beach hoax, the Jenin-grad hoax…

Somehow, when Jew-hating HRW says a magic missile took a damage minimizing path into fitting exactly the manufactured claims it is required to support, the KISS principle says B*llsh*t.

Signatories cannot be held from targeting the enemy in that case, or there would be no mechanism to prevent a violator or non-signatory from simply doing all their firing from behind civilians – even bureaucrats realize that.

The world just holds Israel (and the US) to standards that no one else is held to.

The Israeli-designed and manufactured SPIKE anti-armor missile system and the still experimental DIME (dense inert metal explosive) missile are examples of smaller missiles designed to cause smaller explosions and limit collateral damage. Such missiles cause less powerful explosions than the previous generation of US-manufactured TOW and Hellfire missiles (often used by the IDF in assassination attempts against Palestinian militants in Gaza and the West Bank), which would have destroyed the ambulances completely. While the smaller missiles can be fired from either drones or helicopters, none of the witnesses reported hearing helicopters in the air before or during the attack, so it is most likely the missiles were fired from an Israeli drone…

And still be so precise that they cut a perfect circle directly in the center of the red cross, removing the roof vent as if it were unbolted, punch a beautiful little round hole in the pavement, and yet, leave virtually no damage in the goddamned vehicle, and than vanish without a trace! Wow! It’s Magick!

HRW: desperate liars grasping at straws.

Any munition that would cause only the damage seen on the ambulances would be pretty much pointless to put in the air, and a waste of time to fire. The notion of there being multiple Israeli drones firing crappy experimental not-so-explosive munitions at ambulances in wartime is ludicrous.

Pablo on December 27, 2006 at 2:24 AM

I agree. What good does a weapon like that do for anyone?

And I agree with Allah that we don’t want to be accused of crying wolf, but there are a lot of problems with this story here, not the least of which is that no one seemed to be able to keep the story straight.

With all of that, I don’t see why we’re supposed to drop it just because Human Rights Watch has given up a story that is heavy on speculation and light on proof of any kind.

Why should we trust their speculation over Zombie’s questioning? Does HRW have a cool youtube video????

Until then…

Any munition that would cause only the damage seen on the ambulances would be pretty much pointless to put in the air, and a waste of time to fire. The notion of there being multiple Israeli drones firing crappy experimental not-so-explosive munitions at ambulances in wartime is ludicrous.

Not exactly, but this article in The Australian takes an innocuous statement of possibility from a clearly unprepared IDF spokesman and stretches it like taffy to fit Mark Dodd’s editorial……

Damn Jooooooosss.

Riehl World View

Human Rights Watch claims to have debunked ZombieTime’s posts on the Red Cross ambulance strikes in Lebanon.

I tried to caution people throughout about drawing definite conclusions, though I also confess to falling into the trap, my…

Why wasn’t the supposed missile dug up out of the pavement? This omission seems quite curious. If there’s a slug of metal in the bottom of that hole, where is it?

In one breath they pitch missiles that fall apart and cause little damage, in the next breath they have that fragile missile burying itself in the pavement rather than splattering all over it? Which way is it gonna be? Were they shooting cardboard rockets, or tungsten penetrators? Can’t argue it both ways. Gotta pick one.

I’m still very skeptical of HRW’s “debunking” they rely far too much on supposed eye witness accounts. Any cop will tell you an eyewitness is the least reliable form of evidence available.

Human Rights Watch claims to have debunked ZombieTime’s posts on the Red Cross ambulance strikes in Lebanon. I tried to caution people throughout about drawing definite conclusions, though I also confess to falling into the trap, myself. I have too…

Then look at the upholstery on the seats. Untouched. Look down at the floor where HRW says the missile penetrated. Quite small that hole.

Then look at the little hole in the pavement where the lying sacks of shit claim the missile hit. I can’t believe these bass turds. HRW’s own web site invalidates their claim.

The limited damage and the high precision of the strikes on the ambulances suggest that the weapon was a smaller type of missile fired from an Israeli drone or helicopter.

Get a good trial lawyer on this travesty. SUGGEST lays the Jurassic Park scene – scoot over quick the part about dino genes being impossible to filch from mosquitos and then get on with the story.

Israel is in possession of an arsenal of highly precise missiles that can be fired from either helicopters or drones and are designed to limit the damage to their targets.

Generally true statement, then watch what follows …

The Israeli-designed and manufactured SPIKE anti-armor missile system and the still experimental DIME (dense inert metal explosive) missile are examples of smaller missiles designed to cause smaller explosions and limit collateral damage. Such missiles cause less powerful explosions than the previous generation of US-manufactured TOW and Hellfire missiles (often used by the IDF in assassination attempts against Palestinian militants in Gaza and the West Bank), which would have destroyed the ambulances completely.

Generally true statement about life in missle tech… apart from the illogic of building a missle system that doesn’t destroy anything, but they were just lead-in statements that blur reality with conjecture…

While the smaller missiles can be fired from either drones or helicopters, none of the witnesses reported hearing helicopters in the air before or during the attack, so it is most likely the missiles were fired from an Israeli drone.

Where’s the evidence for the “most likely” claim? They just said themselves, no witnesses reported hearing helicopters … which still leaves “no missles” as the most likely explanation (Occam’s Razor). “Drones” runs a distant, distant second.

Human Rights Watch cannot conclusively state which missiles were used in the attack on the ambulances, because our researchers did not find diagnostic shrapnel or missile parts at the scene, and because of the experimental nature of some missiles used by the IDF.

Human Rights Watch cannot conclusively state which missles, thanks to what could be the incompetence of “their researchers” (who will remain nameless and uncontactable)). Cannot means not able. That’s a true statement, absolutely, but then HRW claims it’s the fault of the Israelis that HRW can’t produce any evidence, for the Israelis are using the hitherto unheard of “experimental nature” impossibility. There is a simpler explanation. There is no evidence of missle to collect, because there were no missles.
Last collossal howlers, dressed up as proof, penetrating deeper into the outer space of science fiction:

The DIME is a weapon with a casing designed to disintegrate in an effort to minimize collateral damage from its fragmentation.

Minimize, you HRW despicable liars, does not mean vanish without a trace. Missles all have signature debris, big or small. Hiding behind the unconfirmable “experimental” is HRW’s defense.

Regardless of the weapon used, the IDF certainly has the capability to attack vehicles with limited impact missiles designed to cause low collateral damage.

But alas, dear HRW, no one on this planet has built, experimental or otherwise, any explosive device that doesn’t leave any trace of its passing. Crediting supernatural abilities to the Israelis is the excuse Human Rights Watch is using to cover the evil propaganda they help spread.
Well, spit! Zombie did a great job, laying it out for all to see.

Got some Old War Dogs business to take care of and at least one site banner to redesign sometime soon; gonna have to play some catch-up. One of the major fauxtography stories may or may not have been debunked. Read…

The highly precise missile designed to limit damage to their targets was found to be – a 2″ Cherry Fire Cracker, better known by Islamists as the Hoax Bomb.

HRW admits that they don’t know, but that doesn’t stop them from pontificating. Show us a weapon that will punch the roof but create no damage inside; and if it really could do that, what would be the point of using it?

The limited damage and the high precision of the strikes on Zombietime suggest that the weapon was a smaller type of missile fired from Queens, NY.