I know I’m being really negative but it will happen on US soil and the aftermath will make New Orleans look like a success.

stretch out his/her arms, face turned to the heavens, eyes closed

and yell “Allah Akbar!” then ignite himself and a large city in a millisecond into a fireball.

I am not a survivalist but I want to survive, its basic human nature. For several years now my kids have thought it odd that Dad was stocking up on some items and storing them in the underground Tornado shelter. They understand why after NK fired off its nuke and with Iran making all sorts of noise. Fortunately for me I don’t live around any large targets, DC, NYC, LA, so I’m not too concerned about the blast, I’m more worried about the aftermath. I don’t think a lot of folks can survive without the basic services provided by the local governments, let alone their Ipods, finding food on their own and I don’t mean at the local Wal-Mart or protecting themselves.

I know I’m being really negative but it

…I played Aftermath for so many years …

Twilight 2000 man myself.

Video: “Hiroshima”Allahpundit For some reason this is making the rounds on Digg and MeFi today, mainly for the sweet CGI used to render the attack. The “Day After vs. Threads” post got a healthy response so I thought I’d run…

It scared the pants off of me in the 60′s, and then once again more recently.

If Ronald Reagan were president, the word would somehow happen to leak out that the crazy old bastard had instructed the SecDef to respond to any suitcase nuke attack against Iran, Russia, and China. We get NYC and DC hit, they get Tehran, Mashad, Moscow, St. Petersburg, Bejing, and Shanghai hit.

The Monster

Since your “ArmageddonJihad” would be a “holy war”, shouldn’t Mecca be on your list as a better deterrent to suicidal terrorists than Tehran? That way maybe ALL Muslims would have an interest in containing nuclear-powered Islamofascists in Iran, and dare I say a post-Musharraf Pakistan as well.

according to liberals, all the U.S. has to do is to appease their terrorist friends by pulling all U.S. troops out (i.e. cut & run) of Iraq & Afghannistan completely, impeach Bush, vote in a democrat president, let Iran & North Korea have nukes, promise not to assinate President Hugo Chavez, let the U.N. run our policies & that will prevent one of our cities from beng nuked.

Sounds like a plan. But first, round up all the Jews and offer them up to the muslims as a “good will” offering. Then you have to add a few things: ban non-muslim religions, eliminate capitalism and personal property, eliminate all those laws that nobody follows anyway (drugs, sex crimes, etc.), and burn down Wall Street. Now if that ain’t a liberal utopia, I don’t know what is!

Are you jewish mr pundit? It must be safe to assume that you’re not muslim. I ask, because for some reason, I’m feeling you must be alone during this the festive season.

Oh, please! As we speak he’s beating the crap out of his brothers to get to the presents first and desperately searching for a Red Ryder under the family Christmas tree.

Wanna be really disturbed? Watch the monkey asphyxiation scene in The Andromeda Strain.

Having thought about it, I suspect it is not very realistic, either, for a few reasons.

The first is the most obvious – why would either side initiate an all-out strategic nuclear exchange that neither could possibly win? In the film’s scenario, the war comes after a long build-up in tension over a conflict in the Third World, arguably the least likely scenario.

Concerning the effects, I am also a bit dubious. The film mentioned 3000 Megatons as being the bomb total (with 210 Mtons falling on the UK). Presumably about half the total tonnage landed on each side, and a considerable fraction would have been aimed remote ICBM sites and military bases. The typical yield of a late Cold War US nuclear warhead was about 300 kton. So 3000 Megatons total would mean 10,000 such warheads, which is fairly close to the total number of nuclear weapons of all types (including tactical) available to both sides. If 5,000 fell on the West, and 5,000 fell on Russia and Eastern Europe, it still would have left most of the world’s area and population unaffected, at least directly. South America, Africa, Australia, large sections of Asia, and parts of North America and Europe would have had intact infrastructure.

According to the film, 210/3000 = 7% of the total, and presumably about 14% of the Soviet-launched tonnage fell on the UK. But the UK’s land area is only 2.5% of the US, and its nuclear and conventional forces were similarly much less numerous. Why the UK would have been hit so hard is difficult to explain. If West Germany and France were on the receiving end of a similar proportion, it would mean only 1/3 the Soviet weapons were aimed at the US, where the important targets are more numerous and far more dispersed. In the narrative of the film, the US was certainly the principal antagonist of the Soviets (in the Middle East, etc).

The level of devastation and mortality depicted in the film is phenomenal, but about 90% of Japan’s urban areas were destroyed (most by conventional firebombing) in WWII, about 20% of the pre-WWII population of Poland was killed in the war, and perhaps an even greater fraction of the Soviet Union’s, if Stalin’s pre- and post-war atrocities are included. Germany losses were about 10% of its total population, but virtually the entire country was reduced to rubble. But these areas recovered. Radioactivity and other effects obviously make a nuclear war worse, but the film’s portrayal of only a medieval level of recovery after 13 years seems exaggerated.

Obviously a 3000 Mton nuclear exchange would have been hell, but I think the film-makers may have subtly painted a worse-than-worst-case scenario to make their point.

Hope that brightened up your day.

Somehow that seemed relevant, given recent non-news.

If Ronald Reagan were president……

The Monster on December 24, 2006 at 9:31 PM

We desperately need another Ronald Reagan about now.

If Iran could get suitcase nukes to Times Square and 800 Pensylvania Avenue for simultaneous detonations, 9/11 would look like a Sunday School picnic. I think the magic number is two, just like it was in WWII. After all, if the US could use two nukes, someone else using two on us is ‘fair’, right?

Anyone who doesn’t think that ArmageddonJihad would do that in a heartbeat, so that he could strike at the Great Satan, hasn’t been paying attention. The only remaining question in my mind is whether we get hit before, after, or at the same time as West Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.

If Ronald Reagan were president, the word would somehow happen to leak out that the crazy old bastard had instructed the SecDef to respond to any suitcase nuke attack against Iran, Russia, and China. We get NYC and DC hit, they get Tehran, Mashad, Moscow, St. Petersburg, Bejing, and Shanghai hit. We don’t wait to find out who did it. All inquiries as to the validity of the policy would be met with “We will not comment on our strategic contingency planning”. So now those two countries have a really powerful incentive to not let Iran have nukes.

Maybe Dubya has enough of a cowboy reputation that it would still work. In two years, if he were replaced by Hillary, leaking stories about how her enemies have had such awful luck might help persuade the nation’s enemies that she’s completely capable of issuing such orders. But who believes that Obama has the, uh, malkins to do anything like that?

“Oderint, dum metuant.” -Lucius Accius, favorite saying of Caligula (“Let them hate, so long as they fear”)

But now the nightmares are back.

Merry Christmas AirHeads!

Does it matter? When the Jihadists finally nuke one of our cities, the warhead won’t be mounted on top of an ICBM. It’ll be floated into the harbor of one of our cities quietly, in the belly of a tugboat, or by some other low-tech means of delivery.

CyberCipher on December 24, 2006 at 6:57 PM

The problem is that we don’t know how it might occure. It could be a single missile form a regime with nothing to lose, such as North Korea. It could be a single missile hidden on a container ship intended to permanently blackout North America with an EMP from a high altitude blast. The problem is that the Dhimmi’s won’t entertain any ideas that don’t fit their established narrative.

It would be interesting to know if anyone out there has met or talked with a Hiroshima/Nagasaki survivor.

No, but I had a friend who’s dad was in the military and was a professional cinematographer. He filmed alot of the test explosions after the war. She showed me these huge leather commemorative photo albums they would prepare for the command and each other. Besides the blast, one of them had a lot of photos of ships that had been within bombing range with animals on them. Some of the animals were still alive but serverly burned. It was gross.

Needless to say, I believe all of them associated with the project died of cancer.

I also HIGHLY recommend the BBC version of “Day of the Triffids”, which is very close to the feel of Danny Boyle’s “28 Days Later”

Do yourselves a favor and:

1. Buy a Region Free DVD Player here:
http://www.regionfreedvd.net/

2. Pick up “Threads” on DVD here:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Threads-Karen-Meagher/dp/B0009S9LNK/sr=8-1/qid=1167009157/ref=pd_ka_1/202-8979200-0631858?ie=UTF8&s=dvd

3. Pick up “Day of the Triffids” here:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Day-Triffids-John-Duttine/dp/B0006GVKE8/sr=1-1/qid=1167009210/ref=sr_1_1/202-8979200-0631858?ie=UTF8&s=dvd

Watch and enjoy Britain come to an end! Well, It won’t be long now anyway, so watch the pre-show.

Funny thing about Threads is what causes the Nuclear War.

Take a guess?

The USA fighting the Commies over…

Iran.

The irony. Kind of Like Bronzy or Goldy except it’s made of Iron.

Merry Christmas!