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Report says Sandy Berger hid Archive documents

posted at 5:24 pm on December 20, 2006 by Ian
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Juat as we all suspected:

Former national security adviser Sandy Berger removed classified documents from the National Archives in 2003 and hid them under a construction trailer, the Archives inspector general reported Wednesday.

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The report said that when Archives employees first suspected that Berger - who had been President Clinton’s national security adviser - was removing classified documents from the Archives in the fall of 2003, they failed to notify any law enforcement agency.

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The report said that when Berger was reviewing the classified documents in the Archives building a few blocks from the Capitol, employees saw him bending down and fiddling with something white, which could have been paper, around his ankle.


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Former national security adviser Sandy Berger removed classified documents from the National Archives in 2003 and hid them under a construction trailer, the Archives inspector general reported Wednesday.

Democrat Leaders doing what they do best!

Topsecretk9 on December 20, 2006 at 5:31 PM

MOVE ALONG, NOTHING TO SEE HERE!

MOVE ALONG, NOTHING TO SEE HERE!

benrand on December 20, 2006 at 5:33 PM

If anyone is in need of a good waterboardin’ It is Sandy.

liberrocky on December 20, 2006 at 5:33 PM

duh

jman on December 20, 2006 at 5:38 PM

It’s ok, they were only copies.

rw on December 20, 2006 at 5:39 PM

And the list of treasonous acts from the left piles up on the dung heap of history.

Like benrand said, nothing new here - just more of the SOS.

fogw on December 20, 2006 at 5:39 PM

Brachfeld reported that on one visit, Berger took a break to go outside without an escort.

“In total, during this visit, he removed four documents … .

“Mr. Berger said he placed the documents under a trailer in an accessible construction area outside Archives 1 (the main Archives building).”

Berger acknowledged that he later retrieved the documents from the construction area and returned with them to his office.

Allow me to play the “if it was a Republican” game.

Imagine, a man smuggles classified documents about Osama bin Laden out of the national archives in his socks, places them underneath a trailer so they’re hidden, then came back at a later time to retrieve them secretly…now imagine that man is….

ROVE!!! Treason, treason…hang him in the public square, this proves Bush is hiding something he knows…Al Franken calls for public executions!!

StoutRepublican on December 20, 2006 at 5:44 PM

“there is no evidence to support the anti-clinton smear job in ‘path to 911′!”

jummy on December 20, 2006 at 5:45 PM

So quick, everyone, let’s all elect Hillary so we can get more of the EXACT SAME THING!

rmgraha on December 20, 2006 at 5:45 PM

From in his pants to under a construction trailer.
No doubt about it, the guy has class.

spd rdr on December 20, 2006 at 5:46 PM

He was only doing it because he “loves this country so much”. So, all forgiven okay??

hoosierken on December 20, 2006 at 5:47 PM

Remember, Berger at first said he had inadvertently taken documents…

Topsecretk9 on December 20, 2006 at 5:48 PM

Remember, Berger at first said he had inadvertently taken documents…

And they were inadvertenly destroyed too…

Gheesh, and they call Bush a liar…

JetBoy on December 20, 2006 at 5:55 PM

This, I love:

The report was issued more than a year after Berger pleaded guilty and received a criminal sentence for removal of the documents.

Berger, who pleaded guilty to unlawfully removing and retaining classified documents, was fined $50,000, ordered to perform 100 hours of community service and was barred from access to classified material for three years.

Good grief, that sentence was criminal. So he’ll be able to handle documents just in time for Hilary in ‘09.

reaganaut on December 20, 2006 at 5:58 PM

Democrats — the TREASON Party.

georgej on December 20, 2006 at 5:58 PM

3 years? That’s it? Should have been 3 years in prison, at least. Treasonist Bastard!

R D on December 20, 2006 at 6:09 PM

“Mr. Berger said he placed the documents under a trailer in an accessible construction area outside Archives 1 (the main Archives building).”

Berger acknowledged that he later retrieved the documents from the construction area and returned with them to his office.

Mens Rea anyone? Bueller?

mojo on December 20, 2006 at 6:09 PM

Treasonous Bastard!

R D on December 20, 2006 at 6:11 PM

Scooter Libby has to spend a fortune in legal fees to defend himself against something the prosecutor knew from the beginning he didn’t do, and Sandy Burglar gets off with 100 hrs community service and $50g fine for something eveybody knows he did. Yup, that’s justice in America.

JustTruth101 on December 20, 2006 at 6:16 PM

I think you may have excerpted the wrong parts Ian… We already knew (and when I say “we” I mean conservative blog readers, not the general public) that Berger stole the documents by hiding them in his shirt, pants and socks and later destroyed them. We know he denied it, then later admitted to it, and was convicted of it, sentenced to a little community services, $50k in fines, and banned from the Archives for 3 years.

What’s new is that he took a break while at the archives and hid some of the documents that he stole under a trailer before going back in.

RightWinged on December 20, 2006 at 6:53 PM

Hey, who here hasn’t, while they’re reading a book or a newspaper, who here hasn’t just inadvertently hidden them under a construction trailer? It’s like how some people say it’s a good “coffeetable book”, except in this case it was a good “hide it under a construction trailer book.”

dorkafork on December 20, 2006 at 6:55 PM

Move along, nothing to see here?
It is telling that most here accept the double standard. Why do we in the Right accept this? If a Republican did this the media would go DEFCON 5 and have him drawn and quartered. Is this not a Felony?
When the law is applied selectively, what is next?
Isn’t the lady holding the scales of justice wearing a blindfold?

mountainmanbob on December 20, 2006 at 7:21 PM

I am wondering…….. can anyone of us arrest this treasonist bastard under citizens arrest, since the Justice Department, State Department, FBI, CIA, Executive, Legislative, and Judical Branches of our Government seem to be involved in the wantant corruption of the legal system?

PinkyBigglesworth on December 20, 2006 at 7:32 PM

mountainmanbob on December 20, 2006 at 7:21 PM

Oh believe me, I am outraged, and have remained outraged at the lack of media coverage. They’ve barely reported on this thing since it began 3 years ago, and they certainly haven’t piled on making it the scandal of the year the way they should. So I don’t accept the double standard, but what can we do? We’re powerless when even Fox doesn’t bother with this story. How about Able Danger? 13 Years of Dems making the WMD case? Numerous reports that the WMDs were moved to/through Syria, possibly by Russian military, and that some may still be in unchecked, but identified locations in Iraq? How about 3 years of a booming economy after the Clinton/Gore recession and 9/11, through $3/gallon gas and numerous natural disasters. No, every month there’s “unexpected” or “surprising” good news, month after month, painting the image of a fluke in the reader’s minds. Then you get one month where inflation “jumps” 2.0%, instead of the projected .5% and the world is coming to an end…. though few wanted to report that last month inflation DROPPED 1.6%, meaning on average there has only been a gain of .2% per month over the past two months. How about “the other Iraq”? How about another province being handed over to Iraqis TODAY? How about record tax revenue and the rich paying a larger percentage, despite “tax cuts for the rich”? I could go on for days.

So yes, we sould be outraged and not just accept the double standard, but what can we do? Public opinion is more powerful than any politician in the country, and since public opinion is generated by the media, the media is the most powerful establishment on the planet. When is it time to just give up, because we’re screwed. There is no way to fight this media, so what do we do?

RightWinged on December 20, 2006 at 7:36 PM

Isn’t the congressman from Pennsylvania (the one who talked about Able Danger, can’t remember his name) banned from classified documents indefinetly?

This is a limp-wristed slap on the wrist, if that.

Remember the Clintons! (or is it Rodhams?)

NTWR on December 20, 2006 at 7:44 PM

yoo hoo, honora where are you?

right2bright on December 20, 2006 at 7:44 PM

So I guess this moves him to the forefront of the Rodham Administration?

JammieWearingFool on December 20, 2006 at 8:07 PM

If a military member mishandles classified materials in such a way that allows the potential for compromise, they lose their security clearance, period. I need to break that down. Exposing a classified item to potential compromise could constitute an unlocked safe in an otherwise secured room, say with a cypher lock on the door, or an item left out of its safe, but still in a secured room. Even if no unauthorized person had a remote chance of access to the mishandled item, a violation occured, and punishment is certain.

Berger LEFT CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS OUT IN THE OPEN, unattended, available to any person who happened upon them. Nobody on earth can prove that the contents of those documents weren’t compromised. There can hardly be a more blatant violation of national security, with the exception of walking the documents into a foreign embassy with a price tag on them. Oh, 100 hours of community service and a $50k fine, and all is well.

This isn’t a slap on the wrist, it’s wink-wink, nudge-nudge. It’s a betrayal of justice, and the only proper response is to immediately release from Leavenworth every military member sent to prison for a security violation.

Lost in the sauce here is the purpose of the thefts. Under the guise of preparing for questioning by the commission, Berger eliminated documents damaging to the Clinton legacy, and potentially incriminating, in regards to his failures to fight terrorism.

Freelancer on December 20, 2006 at 8:21 PM

Over three years since this incident,and now the archives and the media have something to say? Was any of this introduced in court? If so, it obviously wasn’t a factor. If not, then why not?

RightWinged, I understand your frustrations, but “what can we do?”could be the official slogan of the citizenry of the state of New Jersey , where I live.It doesn’t cut it. The squeaky wheel gets the oil. What people like us here, and in other such forums, need to do is to find a way to focus our efforts in getting heard such as the left is through the media.

Does anyone remember a year or so ago, when some blogger (I can’t remember who exactly right now) showed up at a press conference for Dick Durbin? The guy really held Durbin’s feet to the fire. The regular media in attendance, used to doing nothing more than throwing the good Senator softball questions,was appalled. Durbin was clearly flustered, and could do nothing more than ask the guy who he was before retreating without answering his questions.

Well, there was joy in Mudville for the next few days! It was the talk of all the blogs, including Michelle’s.C-Span even ran it several times over the next few days.And then — nothing. A golden opportunity was allowed to break up in the breeze, lost. The left, and by extension the media, are allowed to dictate the terms, and we dance to the tune. All manner of damage will be done, and all manner of obscenities will be perpetrated, until enough of us can get together and find a way to change that dynamic.

tomk59 on December 20, 2006 at 8:23 PM

Just another piece of crap here folks. Remember those wonderful Clinton years and then look in on the View today to let you know that they are trying to come back to give you and I another dose of the clap!

NEMETI IN SYRACUSE on December 20, 2006 at 8:25 PM

Placing the documents in a location such as a construction trailer usually means that this was a “drop.” Another person could have come by, taken the documents and run them through a portable copier, and then replaced them under the trailer. Alternately, altered documents could have been placed under the trailer. Berger would place these back into the archives, and no one would ever know what happened.

Berger should have lost his law license, permanently lost access to secured Federal documents, and should have been sentenced to do time. However, access can be denied by executive order. GWB has not yet issued such an order.

chsw

chsw on December 20, 2006 at 8:26 PM

This is the kind of disgusting, criminal, thieving White House you can expect if the Clintons return to power.

Faith1 on December 20, 2006 at 8:26 PM

I have to second rightwinged’s post. It sometimes seems so futile when trying to tilt at windmills. We can’t forget, though, the blogosphere’s victories. Rathergate, Swift boat veterans, jamilgate, etc. We may not win everytime, but we have to keep on swinging. Maybe, eventually, Foxnews won’t be the only outlet on TV that isn’t controlled by the ultraleft/hate America crowd. I am not holding my breath though.

Also, look at it this way, the enemedia’s control is no where near what it used to be. This past election cycle constituted a near perfect storm in favor of the democrats. They did not win majority status by much of a margin where they unseated republican candidates, in a lot of cases. Their seat pick-up is in line statistically with the historical trend in the 6th year of a sitting President’s term. The enemedia can still do damage, we see it everyday, but we are making headway.

still468 on December 20, 2006 at 8:27 PM

All excellent points, Freelancer. Bunch of thoughts running through my head right now. Like e-mailing O’Reilly, e-mails to government websites, letters to the editor, and so on. Got to start making some noise people, because dollars to doughnuts if this even gets mentioned in the press,it’s gonna be diluted and swept under the rug before you can say Sandy Berger. Any lawyers here? Lots of stuff I see going on, and I don’t see the administration doing anything about it, especially when it is obvious that legal recourses are available.Anyway,back to any lawyers here, how about civil suits? How do you go about it? What does it cost, what does it take? Might sound crazy to some of you, but it’s an idea I’ve been thinking about since watching the Senate hearings on illegal immigration. It occurred to me that by their statements and actions, many senators were literally breaking the law. And if the administration won’t do anything about it, why not us citizens? Apply the same line of reasoning to the New York Times and other such folks, and maybe the other side starts stepping and fetching for a change.

tomk59 on December 20, 2006 at 8:43 PM

So quick, everyone, let’s all elect Hillary so we can get more of the EXACT SAME THING!

It’s not like having the Great White Hope from Crawford in the White House with a majority in both the House and Senate made all that much of a difference in how this case was handled, now did it?

The only difference would be that the useless sack of skin refusing to do anything about this travesty of justice would have a “D” next to its name.

And cankles.

Misha I on December 20, 2006 at 8:47 PM

Placing the documents in a location such as a construction trailer

William Jefferson placed his fbi marked bills in the freezer…business ala the left.

Topsecretk9 on December 20, 2006 at 8:50 PM

So yes, we sould be outraged and not just accept the double standard, but what can we do? Public opinion is more powerful than any politician in the country, and since public opinion is generated by the media, the media is the most powerful establishment on the planet. When is it time to just give up, because we’re screwed. There is no way to fight this media, so what do we do?

RightWinged on December 20, 2006 at 7:36 PM

Way to go - right on target!

We can keep each other informed, bypassing the “MSM” and speeding up their eventual demise, much like the dinosaurs of old.

Even when the media are on it, it’s already old - the blogoshpere is pretty much real time.

BIG difference there, wouldn’t you say?

Emmett J. on December 20, 2006 at 9:13 PM

The current administration will shield the previous administration because that administration followed his father’s. Every presidency has its cover ups and foul ups which if made public would destroy reputations and 42i knows all of 41’s.

Perchant on December 20, 2006 at 9:33 PM

Clinton legacy.

just wanted to see it again.

shooter on December 20, 2006 at 9:41 PM

Another episode of “Klintonites Gone Wild”? Tell us something we DON’T know.

Tony737 on December 20, 2006 at 9:48 PM

Clinton legacy.

just wanted to see it again.

shooter on December 20, 2006 at 9:41 PM

Heh.

Jaibones on December 20, 2006 at 9:50 PM

Stuffing things down the pants?

No wonder Clinton picked this guy!!

Good Lt on December 20, 2006 at 9:56 PM

“Is that a classified document in your pants, or are you just happy to see me…”

JetBoy on December 20, 2006 at 10:22 PM

Does anyone know exactly what documents he stole?

Or if the National Archives had made copies of them before he stole them?

maxman on December 20, 2006 at 10:31 PM

Sandy Berger removed classified documents from the National Archives in 2003 and hid them under a construction trailer

Construction trailer? Did they move Clinton’s Presidential Library near the National Archives Building?

Drtuddle on December 20, 2006 at 11:08 PM

William Jefferson placed his fbi marked bills in the freezer…business ala the left.

Topsecretk9 on December 20, 2006 at 8:50 PM

And it looks like he’s going to get away with it too.

R D on December 20, 2006 at 11:36 PM

The current administration will shield the previous administration because that administration followed his father’s. Every presidency has its cover ups and foul ups which if made public would destroy reputations and 42i knows all of 41’s.

Perchant on December 20, 2006 at 9:33 PM

That’s an interesting theory, and I have thought about that more than once. But I’m leaning more towards the fact that this administration has more important things to do than fight the Dem’s and MSM for years before anything gets done. Hell, Clinton was impeached, and the dems and msm held a rally for him and went back to business as usual. Bush has to pick his battles, and it aint over yet!

R D on December 20, 2006 at 11:51 PM

So I guess this moves him to the forefront of the Rodham Administration?

JammieWearingFool on December 20, 2006 at 8:07 PM

From what we’ve seen so far, Pelosi will have a sweet position for him. Sandy Burglar stole documents from the national archives and hid them in his pants and socks. Then they were “under a trailer” and the MSM hasn’t found this newsworthy? Are we really surprised? If he were a Republican this would have been headlines in the NYT and MSM. However, he’s a Clinton Democrat so all is forgiven and swept under the rug. Dull, dull, surprise folks. You won’t find a single liberal or Democrat responding to this. They know the hand was caught in the cookie jar and they have nothing to say about it.

thedecider on December 21, 2006 at 12:17 AM

Oh, that reminds me…I left some classified documents under the construction trailer parked out in front of the building I work in, last night at midnight.

Rick on December 21, 2006 at 12:25 AM

Oh, that reminds me…I left some classified documents under the construction trailer parked out in front of the building I work in, last night at midnight.

It really is mind-blowing when you think about it…and it has all the makings of watergate report….

Where is the intrepid investigative reporter - Ross? Woodward? Isn’t David Gregory my proxy? Doesn’t he care or his he still researching the duck hunting “cover-up”?

No interest in this?

Topsecretk9 on December 21, 2006 at 1:37 AM

For the MSM to take interest in this and aid in the total destruction of the Clinton legacy ,they would first have to admit that every fluff piece on these two criminals was wrong,and they would also risk having access to the WH in the chance that the Hildebeast and her tool wind up there again,a goal to which they are dedicated.Therefore they cannot do it,at all.

bbz123 on December 21, 2006 at 2:05 AM

Berger’s lawyer, Lanny Breuer, said in a statement that the contents of all the documents exist today and were made available to the commission.

But Rep. Tom Davis, R-Va., outgoing chairman of the House Government Reform Committee, said he’s not convinced that the Archives can account for all the documents taken by Berger. Davis said working papers of National Security Council staff members are not inventoried by the Archives.

“There is absolutely no way to determine if Berger swiped any of these original documents. Consequently, there is no way to ever know if the 9/11 Commission received all required materials,” Davis said.

The fact is that we don’t know what Berger stole. The staff at the Archives only started watching Berger after they sensed that he was pilfering documents. What had he already stolen?

thegreatbeast on December 21, 2006 at 2:10 AM

I just checked out the cnn.com site, and there’s no story on this! I even searched cnn.com, and the most recent story is from 10/24/2005!

News blackout?

stonemeister on December 21, 2006 at 2:14 AM

Mark Levine says:

A Landmark Note
12/20 07:47 PM
Landmark Legal Foundation , of which I am president, had used the Freedom of Information Act to seek all versions/copies of the documents Berger had stolen from the government. Our request is still pending with President Clinton’s office. (Yes, he gets to decide about their release during a 12-year period from the time he left office, then certain agencies get to decide, and so forth.) The general counsel to the Inspector Counsel of the National Archives contacted me and asked if we would agree to the release of this report in lieu of securing notes taken by the IG’s staff, which he represented were of no real significance. Well, considering the protracted process the government has set up to avoid releasing most of this information, Landmark agreed. We were to receive the report simultaneous with the media.

Apparently the IG’s office released the Berger report to the media before providing a copy to Landmark, and released it only a few days before Christmas. Maybe we’ll revisit our agreement with the IG’s office and go back for the notes.

SO…Clinton is twisting and withholding the evidence!!!…um, yeah if this were Condelezza Rice, and she smuggled doc in her underpants and nylons and then hid documents under a construction trailer, and then secretly retrieved them latter and then shredded them with a pair of scissors, AND BUSH WAS WITHHOLDING THIS EVEN UNDER A FOIA request???…Um, yeah…something tells me David Gregory, the entire neo-nuts of the sphere and many of their TownHouse pals in the main-stream media would be in CRAZY OUTRAGE mode.

Topsecretk9 on December 21, 2006 at 3:03 AM

RightWinged,
The answer to your question “what can we do?” is contained in the Topsecret9 note above. Go to court and SUE THE BASTARDS under the Freedom of Information Act. Whenever any additional info on this matter comes to light, mass e-mail it to everyone you know. Contact local newspapers and push them to publish stories like these. As we all know, the Dinosaur Media ain’t the only game in town. Use the cyber and other tools at your disposal.
The Leftist Media will continue to cover for their goons. And yes, the good news from the last 6 years has been buried by them. But when the law is applied on a selective basis, we are headed down a slippery slope. Based on our current system, we are a nation of laws. When the law only applies to “unprotected classes”, we become a nation of men.
Fight the bastards.
And may GOD Bless Us.

mountainmanbob on December 21, 2006 at 6:49 AM

RightWinged,
What can we do?
Find as many ethical, unbiased attorneys we can and SUE THE BASTARDS under The Freedom of Information Act.
Push your local newspapers to publish this story.
Send letters to the editors of bigger papers.
E-mail your US Senators and House Reps.
Mass e-mail any info that comes to light.
At Christmas parties, ask your friends to move away from the remote control, forget about Dancing with the Stars, American Idol and whether or not Britney has a shaved Twinkie or not, and PAT ATTENTION to the fact that we are LOSING OUR COUNTRY!
Our current system is based on the rule of law. If we selectively apply the law, we become a nation of men.
Fight for the TRUTH. Fight for AMERICA.
GOD Help us.

mountainmanbob on December 21, 2006 at 7:12 AM

The Dems let this guy get away with it…his attorney says he has moved on…morons do that…

And clinton says what…???

areseaoh on December 21, 2006 at 9:12 AM

I wonder if Jimmy Hoffa is in there as well…

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on December 21, 2006 at 9:18 AM

“Oh, that’s just Sandy, ha, ha, ha – didn’t surprise any of us, when we heard about it. You should have seen his desk at the White House! Sloppy Sandy – ethical as the day is long, though.” - Bill Clinton

9/11 3,000 + dead Americans
To Date 2,900 + dead American soldiers

Yeah, douchebag, it’s F’ing hilarious.

there it is on December 21, 2006 at 9:48 AM

why hasn’t he been arrested yet?

One Angry Christian on December 21, 2006 at 11:05 AM

From the Washington Times:

In a letter to the House Government Reform Committee, the lawmakers asked Chairman Thomas M. Davis III, Virginia Republican, to investigate whether there was criminal misconduct in the removal of the classified documents by the Clinton administration official.

Democrats will assume control of Congress next month, and the request for an investigation is expected to be shelved.

Gee, ya think?

CookeyD on December 21, 2006 at 11:20 AM

Clinton and his cronies are like a fungus or mold . . . no matter how many times you try, you just can’t get rid of it.

rplat on December 21, 2006 at 11:38 AM

Don’t you remember????

“Sloppy”, “Sloppiness”, “He was just Sloppy”, “It was just a case of Sloppiness”, “Sloppy”, Clinton…”HA, when we heard of it, we just thought it was funny, HA!”, “Sloppy”…..

No……….. TREASON!

PinkyBigglesworth on December 21, 2006 at 12:19 PM

“Report says Sandy Berger hid Archive documents.”

DOH!

locomotivebreath1901 on December 21, 2006 at 12:39 PM

I’m not trying to further enrage anyone here but I just would like to add one more thing. That $50000 fine. He didn’t have to pay a scent. The Clintons immediately held a fundraiser following the ruling. You can guess where the money raised went. None of them had to pay a scent. The punishment was nil. Zip. Zero. Zilch. Do you think he has fulfilled his community service requirement? Do you think he is any different now then he was before the judges gavel hit the desk? Nope. No different. A well protected man that Sandy Burgler is.

Zetterson on December 21, 2006 at 12:55 PM

Zetterson on December 21, 2006 at 12:55 PM

forgot about that fundraising fiasco. no punishment, no reason to change. probably made a few bucks on the whole deal.

right2bright on December 21, 2006 at 1:22 PM

Okay, so the definition of “culture of corruption” is “Republican.” I’m glad that’s all cleared up because I was getting really confused.

Rick on December 21, 2006 at 2:11 PM

honora, jaherer, gregh, drifter, constantine and jetpilot have no defense of this, have nothing to say, are busy shopping or otherwise, or have decided to move on…all at once.

Entelechy on December 21, 2006 at 2:25 PM

honora, jaherer, gregh, drifter, constantine and jetpilot have no defense of this, have nothing to say, are busy shopping or otherwise, or have decided to move on…all at once.

Entelechy on December 21, 2006 at 2:25 PM

Kind of like the MSM. Now that I think about it, our resident libs have been rather quiet of late. Is there something going on that we aren’t aware of?

Rick on December 21, 2006 at 3:43 PM

C’mon. Let’s cut the guy a break. Anybody can make the mistake of cramming TOP SECRET documents down his socks, into his pants or into some nearby crevice or crack (think how much a paper cut THERE would hurt). Later, discovering to your horror that your pants and socks were bulging with accidentally stolen top secret documents it is only natural to secret them under a nearby trailer instead of honestly returning them. Who do you think we are? Repub;icans?

MaiDee on December 21, 2006 at 3:44 PM

Democrats — the TREASON Party.

georgej on December 20, 2006 at 5:58 PM

YEAH BUT WHAT ARE YOU? It blows my mind that only a couple of people on this website blamed the REAL PERSON WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS. All of the rest of you are nothing but kool-aid drinkers whining and moaning like little girls at the “media bias” and whimpering about how “we all knew”. Well YOU DIDN’ T KNOW, you had an idea, a well founded and obviously right idea, but an idea nonetheless, you didn’t KNOW, because you weren’t THERE.

But there was someone WHO DID KNOW! His name is GEORGE BUSH! See, while you were entertaining ideas of conspiracies to defraud the 9/11 commission, the Bush justice department, such as it is, was writing down the words, “HID THEM UNDER A CONSTRUCTION TRAILER”! And THEN they gave him the sentence that you are now appalled by! The question which none of you seem willing to posit is, WHY? Why the unholy alliance between Bush the senior and his new “Son” Bill Clinton? Why would Bush Jr, having EVIDENCE of CLINTON’S pre-9/11 culpablility, allow them to sweep it under the rug? Even after Bill Clinton angrily asserted that the Bush admin had done NOTHING about terrorism in it’s first nine months? Why DIDN’T THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION OBJECT TO THE PLACING OF JAMIE GORELICK ON THE 9/11 COMMISSION? I mean, she’s the one who authored the “wall of stupid separtation” between our “Intelligence” Agencies, right? Even a moron liberal would see this as a CONFLICT OF INTEREST. What judge would be allowed to render a ruling on a law HE HELPED CRAFT? So, why? NOT A PEEP from the Bush Administration, WHY? Why would Bush allow a Clinton cover up specialist on the 9/11 commission, one who crafted the very rules the commission was tasked with “analyzing” in order to determine, “What went wrong”? Hmmmmmm. When your kool aid addled brains slog their way through that one, you understand why I told the Gay Old Party where to stick it.

Soothsayer on December 21, 2006 at 3:47 PM

Excerpt from AP article:

Berger, with the authorization of former President Clinton, was reviewing National Security Council documents on Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida, Sudan, and related presidential correspondence. The review was to facilitate Berger’s impending testimony before the House and Senate intelligence committees.

This is a sanitized way of saying Slick Willie DIRECTED Burglar to do what he did. Make no mistake, he was ordered to so. Once again, a Clinton kool-aid drinker takes one for the team. And, if this had been a Pubbie, we would be treated with 24/7 conspiracy theories ad nauseum.

geek

geekrunner on December 21, 2006 at 3:56 PM

I’m guessing that this thread is toast.

But having said that, I’m having trouble figuring out a way to disagree with Soothsayer.

there it is on December 21, 2006 at 4:26 PM

It is the ultimate progressive hypocrisy that there are two sets of law in this nation now, one for liberals and the other for conservatives. Why isn’t Sandy Burglar in prison?

mcgilvra on December 21, 2006 at 4:36 PM

Soothsayer on December 21, 2006 at 3:47 PM

Fully agree with you on this one!

Entelechy on December 21, 2006 at 4:47 PM

Why isn’t Fox covering this? What is going on?

JustTruth101 on December 21, 2006 at 4:49 PM

It is the ultimate progressive hypocrisy that there are two sets of law in this nation now, one for liberals and the other for conservatives. Why isn’t Sandy Burglar in prison?

mcgilvra on December 21, 2006 at 4:36 PM

The “CONSERVATIVES” were the ones IN CHARGE OF PUTTING THIS TREASONOUS LIBERAL IN JAIL. Yet he remains free. What part of this are you struggling with? Liberal didn’t let him go, they sent him in. The job of charging his ass with DEFRAUDING THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES in the form of their representatives on the 9/11 panel, was the BUSH JUSTICE DEPARTMENT’S RESPONSIBLITY. Do you really doubt that if the POTUS wanted an investigation and subsequent public hanging that there would be one? There is no actual legal defense to “hiding documents under a construction trailer”. Riddle me this Batman…since the Bush Justice department had ALL OF THESE FACTS from at least the time of Berger’s deal, WHY ARE YOU JUST FINDING THIS OUT NOW? And why wasn’t the BUSH ADMIN the ones to tell you? ……………BUSH IS AN EVIL LIAR! “When I said Don Rumsfeld was going to be with me to the end of my admin I only said that, blah, blah , blah, blah , blah………. And his goals are not your goals, just look at immigration for a clue.

Soothsayer on December 21, 2006 at 5:02 PM

I guess Trump vs Rosie Trumps Government-Media-Complex vs US Citizens…

NTWR on December 21, 2006 at 5:05 PM

Soothsayer, the justice dept. is stocked with Clintoon appointees, the real question is, why didn’t Bush purge all the Clinton holdovers when he took office??? ARGH. NO MORE BUSH/CLINTON LEGACY. We need fresh blood in the oval office, and it’s surname is NOT RODHAM.

NTWR on December 21, 2006 at 5:08 PM

The reason Sandy Burglar and the rest of the Clinton cronies have received a pass is the FBI FILES.

What we have in America is Tyranny. We do not govern by the rule of law but Tyranny. Sandy Berger is just one example and another is our borders and Illegal Immigration.

Our leaders have sold us out.

Our founding fathers warned us what would happen to our Government if we were not ever vigilant.

My 2 cents.

ScottyDog on December 21, 2006 at 9:34 PM

Soothsayer, I agree with you about who is really to blame on this. It is an unwritten rule that current presidents don’t go after former presidents, and vice-versa. The exception to the rule is Jimmy Carter - Jimbo has done nothing but undermine this administration from day one, and surprisingly did so to bubba’s too. Bubba, to a lesser extent, has also taken shots at the current administration, but then always reels himself in. With all that being said, the point I was trying to make, with regard to the MSM, is that they have refused to cover or much less even mention what Berger did - this is serious $hit, and it’s their job (as objective journalists) to report this. I hate the fact that Bush is doing all he can to cover bubba’s a$$, but it’s not unexpected.

Rick on December 22, 2006 at 12:56 AM


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