Comments on: Jamilgate: Michelle’s sources can’t find Capt. Hussein

By: Blog-o-Fascists

Blog-o-Fascists — Wed, 08 Aug 2007 02:30:07 +0000

Bull, Allah…

Riehl World View

Not from Allah – but Moran getting a half-pass on his most recent bullshit because he cares about victory in Iraq. Read below, according to him, he doesn’t – we lost in his view.Update: If you missed the flame war I linked in the hea…

By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Breaking: TNR challenges Weekly Standard’s claim that Beauchamp has recanted

Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:03:04 +0000

[...] Update: If you missed the flame war I linked in the headlines between Rick Moran and Ace, now’s your chance. Moran’s argument is reminiscent of (but distinct from) the nonsense Boehlert floated last year during Jamilgate and which Yglesias dusted off a week or two ago for this story — namely, that because worse things have happened in Iraq, it doesn’t really matter whether Beauchamp’s telling the truth. The parallel’s close enough that it’s worth quoting what I wrote in December: [Boehlert] doesn’t care if the story’s bogus or not. He’ll say en passant that he does because he knows, as a journalist and media critic, that he has to. But it’s strictly pro forma. His position seems to be that the story’s true in the Larger Sense, as a microcosm of the brutality in Iraq, even if it’s not, you know, technically true (”as if an AP retraction would change a thing on the ground in Baghdad, where electricity remains scarce, but sectarian death squads roam freely”). In other words, “fake but accurate.” That’s his bottom line here and that’s why it’s dishonest of him and his pals to even pretend to care whether the report’s accurate. As far as they’re concerned, if Jamil Hussein turns out to be real, the story’s true; if he turns out not to be real, the story’s True. They can’t go wrong. Meanwhile the AP, if it’s guilty of bad facts to whatever greater or lesser degree, gets an almost completely free pass. [...]

By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Finally: JD Johannes apologizes to Glenn Greenwald for believing the Anbar awakening exists

Wed, 11 Jul 2007 02:14:51 +0000

[...] Why, now that I re-read his post, Johannes isn’t apologizing at all: What I really learned today is the lengths many will go to deny the facts on the ground–when they have no knowledge of those facts–and the fear they have of success in Iraq. [Paging Eric Boehlert. — ed.] [...]

By: On apologies | Cold Fury

On apologies | Cold Fury — Sun, 07 Jan 2007 16:07:23 +0000

[...] Allah explains (more here) why any apology to the Left — over Jamilgate specifically, which is still far from resolved, but you could apply it to plenty else — is futile, and worse than a waste of time: I explicitly acknowledged that we were wrong about Hussein and apologized to our readers for having led them on a not-so-wild wild-goose chase. Does Media Matters link to that post? Of course not, because that wouldn’t fit their narrative. Instead they link to a post of mine from December answering Eric Boehlert’s columns about Jamilgate. They’re hoping their readers won’t actually follow the links but will instead simply deduce from the headlines they’ve provided that we responded to the new revelation about Hussein by picking on Eric Boehlert to change the subject. It’s a naked lie. [...]

By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Media Matters lies about HA’s response to Jamilgate

Sat, 06 Jan 2007 23:22:22 +0000

[...] Except I didn’t. Media Matters’s item about Hot Air links to a post I wrote in December answering Boehlert’s columns on Jamilgate. Why would MM mislead their readers by linking to an old piece that doesn’t address the most recent news instead of to a newer post that does? Because if you read that newer post, you’ll find this: She [i.e., Michelle] and we were wrong about Jamil Hussein. Whether we’re wrong about the rest of it, too, we’ll see. Apologies, though, to the HA readers for having led you on a bit of a wild goose chase, however well founded and well intended our suspicions were. [...]

By: Patterico’s Pontifications » Media Matters Distorts Something (Yawn)

Patterico’s Pontifications » Media Matters Distorts Something (Yawn) — Sat, 06 Jan 2007 22:20:51 +0000

[...] Allah notes that Media Matters lied about him as well: They’re also lying when they list Hot Air as oneof the sites that refuses to admit its errors. I explicitly acknowledged that we were wrong about Hussein and apologized to our readers for having led them on a not-so-wild wild-goose chase. Does Media Matters link to that post? Of course not, because that wouldn’t fit their narrative. Instead they link to a post of mine from December answering Eric Boehlert’s columns about Jamilgate. They’re hoping their readers won’t actually follow the links but will instead simply deduce from the headlines they’ve provided that we responded to the new revelation about Hussein by picking on Eric Boehlert to change the subject. It’s a naked lie. [...]

By: The Possum Bistro

The Possum Bistro — Sat, 23 Dec 2006 16:59:18 +0000

Playing the Fool…

They fooled everybody – almost.

How often do you question what you read? My history tutor certainly impressed on me that crucial skill: always question the source, whether it is a first-hand or second-hand account, what ideological, cultural or hi…..

By: Classical Values

Classical Values — Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:36:04 +0000

my foam flecked frenzy over fictional facts…

Is the best defense always a good offense? Eric Boehlert (a Salon editor who now writes for Media Matters) is getting a lot of attention in the blogosphere right now because of the ferocity of his defense of the MSM’s……

By: Doug Ross @ Journal

Doug Ross @ Journal — Fri, 22 Dec 2006 01:55:24 +0000

Where’s Jamil? – The board game…

The Associated Press is proud to present their new board game, “Where’s Jamil?”……

By: A Blog For All

A Blog For All — Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:01:06 +0000

The Jamil Hussein Saga Continues…

So, the AP continues to stand by its original reporting, despite the fact that no one, let alone the AP, has actually presented Jamil Hussein to the world for questioning. We simply are left with the AP asserting as unmitigated fact that this guy exi…..

By: A Second Hand Conjecture » Rep. Virgil Goode is Being Railroaded (UPDATED)

A Second Hand Conjecture » Rep. Virgil Goode is Being Railroaded (UPDATED) — Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:24:57 +0000

[...] That’s not what Goode said in his letter, and while it will be fun watching the meme grow and grow, this reflects very poorly on my State. It doesn’t seem to be asking too much to get the story right … oh, wait, yes it does. +*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+ [...]

By: Is it the Story or the Credibility that is at Issue? at Conservative Times--Republican GOP news source.

Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:07:06 +0000

[...] [UPDATE] Hot Air has more on this. [...]

By: Right Wing Nut House » BOEHLERT MISSING THE POINT ABOUT AP SOURCING

Right Wing Nut House » BOEHLERT MISSING THE POINT ABOUT AP SOURCING — Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:53:14 +0000

[...] Allah roasts Boehlert slowly on a spit over a hot fire. [...]

By: right2bright

right2bright — Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:42:23 +0000

When is the television mainstream media going to use the AP as a sacrificial lamb to shore up its own credibility? CNN could cash in bigtime. They might get a few Nielsen numbers back from Fox.

Theworldisnotenough on December 20, 2006 at 7:47 PM

Your assumption is that CNN does not do the same thing. Won’t happen, CNN was in bed with the enemy in the first Gulf War…to many skeltons in the closet. Pointing the finger at AP, as the saying goes, creates three pointing back at them. The MSM protects their own. Step out of line, and your job is gone.

By: BohicaTwentyTwo

BohicaTwentyTwo — Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:31:12 +0000

“the doomed U.S. invasion”

THIS is what pisses me off the most. Its their preconceived notion that Iraq was a failure even before it began. This is what they were saying BEFORE day one. Hell, they were saying Afganistan would be a failure on September 12th! Nothing matters, not truth, not integrity, NOTHING, just as long as it fits into their mindset that says not that we are losing in Iraq, but that it is IMPOSSIBLE to win.

By: Oyster

Oyster — Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:26:29 +0000

I’ve always been of the mind that if something is bad, the truth about it should stand on its own. If there are some who don’t share your alarm or ask why the glass is always half empty for you, the answer is not to just make up more stuff to bolster your view.

It absolutely slays me how when some question the constant negativity of reporting, and interject with positive news to balance things at least to some degree, there are always the Boehlerts who will shout more negativity and accuse you of “ignoring the facts on the ground” while they conveniently ignore certain facts. Boehlert was careful not to link See Dubya as he partially quoted him, which is simply another act of deliberate twisting to support a half truth proving he’s no better than those he defends.

The mere fact that their (AP, Reuters, etc.) stories come out only hours, sometimes minutes, after they happen leads me to believe that their “exhaustive verification” process isn’t as exhaustive, lengthy or fool-proof as they say it is.

AP’s promised response, which they claimed would come out “soon” when the burning six story first came into question, which was supposed to have more facts and more detail and which took almost a week, had neither more fact, nor more detail; unless you want to count the “we checked hospitals and morgues” part that was edited out later. It was simply followed with a glorified and indignant, “We stick to our story.”

meh.

By: seejanemom

seejanemom — Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:07:42 +0000

I’ve got your Captain Hussein. His name is Barrack Hussein Obama and I think Debbie is right—he is the Manchurian candidate. I know this is off topic, but she is right. You watch and see.

By: The Anchoress » Sir, that’s not quite what I said

The Anchoress » Sir, that’s not quite what I said — Thu, 21 Dec 2006 06:59:00 +0000

[...] Related: That famous “warblogger” Instapundit rounds things up with a raised eyebrow and remembers some stuff the press would probably prefer he forget. Has Jamil Hussein been found? Did he or did he not talk to the AP? Malkin stays on it and answers critics Allahpundit seems annoyed by Boehlert’s characterization of bloggers Eason Jordan draws no conclusions, yet Seedubya says he’s been ‘Dowdified’ by Boehlert Captains Quarters and Jules Crittenden supply balance. [...]

By: JetBoy

JetBoy — Thu, 21 Dec 2006 05:33:25 +0000

Now, I’m no friend of the A(w/t)P…but I have yet to see any real evidence that they were intentionally “untruthful” about this story. One minute, they are…then wait!, they might not be…then wait! maybe they are, etc…

I do look forward to closure on this whole sordid affair, but this one seems to me to be destined to leave us hanging…

By: shooter

shooter — Thu, 21 Dec 2006 03:50:56 +0000

Absolute
Phonies

By: shooter

shooter — Thu, 21 Dec 2006 03:48:32 +0000

They’ve (Boehlert & the AP) been deceitful so long, had carte blanche so long, they either have twisted their own brains into believing their own lies, or they just don’t care.
They do know with enough garbage print and misdirection as above that they have always gotten away with it, and the largest print news services are in bed with them.

I really don’t know how they sleep at night.

By: Flopping Aces

Flopping Aces — Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:27:49 +0000

The Latest On Jamil Hussein…

**I understand this story has become quite convulted and hard to follow so go here and read every post done by myself on Jamil Hussein started with the post that began it all on Nov 25th.** As most of you……

By: Jaibones

Jaibones — Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:10:59 +0000

I think that the rathergate stuff pretty much proves that these media types have a standard of proof that is unreachable.

liberrocky on December 20, 2006 at 7:40 PM

Speaking of RatherGate, I think Eric Bonehead is going with “fake but true” on the AP story.

By: Michelle Malkin

Michelle Malkin — Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:02:38 +0000

Tracing “Jamil Hussein’s” footstepsand ignoring anti-blog hatred…

After receiving initial reports from a Civilian Police Advisory Training Team (CPATT) source two days ago and investigating further, here’s what I can tell you: According to two CPATT officials–one in the U.S, one in Iraq–there is no one……

By: Patterico’s Pontifications » Media Matters Isikoffs See Dubya

Patterico’s Pontifications » Media Matters Isikoffs See Dubya — Thu, 21 Dec 2006 01:57:38 +0000

[...] As Allah says, in his own post taking Boehlert’s nonsense apart: Light your torch; it’s strawman time. [...]