My main point about him is that if he moves away from that approach he stands a better chance of garnering more “in the middle” support. Not saying he will but hope springs eternal – whichever person of color that eventually becomes President needs to be of the I’m American first mold if the country is to finally put its obsession with race in the past.

Townhall has an interesting oped by Herman Cain(Godfather Pizza founder) about Tiger Woods in 2016 – partly tongue in cheek but good observations about character.

My kids are bi-racial and don’t play the “Are you x or y race today game” They are who they are – the rest is secondary. Their heritage is part of who they are but in and of itself doesn’t define the individual.
That’s why this particular aspect about Obama is of interest to me.

Hopefully, you understand my perspective a little better.

And my link refers to Obama, not Woods. Woods is the role model for the world on multi-ethnic background in my opinion. “This is my background, if you really care, please don’t classify me, I’m just me.”

Obama is the one who claims to be black, which seems premeditated to achieve some purpose that I don’t claim to understand. But it does fly in the face of a Black American Myth that Chris Rock uses to play victim. He has said in his act that none of the middle class white guys in the audience would trade skin with him, a wealthy, famous, handsome young black guy. I always thought he was wrong, if only because every guy who is 1/4 black and 3/4 not, seems to think of himself as “black”.

Secondly I never suggested banning/internment at this time, nor did Andy from what I read in his posts. That must me your own projection. I suggest common sense and not closing ones eyes to truths because some dont find it politically pleasing.

I have no problem traveling the road, I travel. Its a good road, an honorable road.

Here’s one where he tackles the ‘experience matters’ question regarding B.O.. He makes a pretty good case for why experience doesn’t matter – charisma does.

Do you actually know who we’re talking about anymore, or are you just making up stuff that sounds nice to you?

Jaibones on December 13, 2006 at 1:51 AM

Funny question considering you pass a link that mentions nothing about Woods. Try reading the article at http://www.pbs.org/newshour/essays/page_5-1.html which actually quotes Woods on how he views himself.

And to repeat my point so that you can understand Hawaii….has over 20% of the population which …..identifies themselves as mixed race….compared to 2-3% of the US as a total.

You have seen the links in previous posts. Read them or not but quit embarrassing yourself. I’m not bailing you out anymore.

Will he follow the Tiger Woods model “Accept me for who I am and don’t ask me to define myself by which race I am”?

No. He defines himself as “black”. I think this is what people mean when they call him an empty suit. Liberals like you get to stuff things into it, and make whatever you think would be fun.

Do you actually know who we’re talking about anymore, or are you just making up stuff that sounds nice to you?

And absolutely no conservatives disagreed with the views you presented, right? Or did you miss that part?

Clinton bashing

Liberal Main Stream Media

Dems = Terrorism, aka Barack HUSSEIN Obama, must be related to Sadam Hussein

Personal attacks: “He is a lightweight empty suit without any practical executive experience” (btw that sounds like George W Bush, and look how good he turned out)

Young. Handsome. Charismatic. Energetic. All fine qualities I guess but not exactly what I’m looking for to lead my country. (Yea who needs a leader that inspires and is articulate, look how good G W. Bush turned out.)

I always hear, Clinton was such a good speaker. he was so charismatic. He was so “likable”” bla bla bla. So what? Being a smooth talker doesn’t make you a good leader. (Right, being inarticulate is the key to great leadership clearly.)

Yea HUSSEIN, we should hate him, he’s Arab. He’s a Democrat.

Hey Rocket Surgeons, way to go, brilliant political analysis of the first order.

Lets review, main stream media liberal bias, Clinton, Dems are for the terrorist or are actually terrorist. That seems to work for 99% of the post on conservative blogs. It is cool, it saves thinking and all that stuff, you know facts and effort.

Which is my point, though I didn’t spell it out. Thanks.

BTW, Andy, Lebanon’s Pierre Gimayel was most certainly an Arab. Didn’t stop him of many of his family members from being murdered. Did I mention that he was a Christian?
Inform yourself and stop having a cow before Allahpundit bans you.
baldilocks on December 12, 2006 at 6:17 PM

Most Lebanese people (Gimayel’s family included) are of Semitic origin, the Arabs came much later. And as I mentioned a few weeks ago, Lebanon is the only Christian country left in the land where Christianity began. Parts of the Maronite Catholic Mass are still said in Aramaic, the language of Christ.

As for Obama, I’m with Michelle and Allah on this one, don’t look at his skin, care not what his parents named him. Judge him by his actions. To me, he’s just another liberal.

I think I contribute enough worth reading to earn the occasional one liner. And please, I may be liberal many things but don’t paint me as PC. I hate everything about “PC” and would gladly fight with any of you to destory it.
JaHerer22 on December 12, 2006 at 7:42 PM

Liar.
Andy in Agoura Hills on December 12, 2006 at 8:08 PM

Well this has certainly become an unpleasant conversation. While I often disagree with JaHerer, I don’t think it’s appropriate to call his character or honesty into question.

I always hear, Klinton was such a good speaker. he was so charismatic. He was so “likable”" bla bla bla. So what? Being a smooth talker doesn’t make you a good leader.

JaHerer22 on December 12, 2006 at 7:42 PM

Liar.

People *want* to like a politician. Look at cable news- a huge portion of it is reporting on polls of other people’s opinions. We care what other people think. We are craving something or someone to rally behind. Likability cannot be overestimated in this coming election.
So Obama having it may well be enough.

ps. Bill is probably on the phone to Berkel, begging him to buy the Rangers or the Nicks so Hillary can have a team to hang out with. Or is Rutgers close enough to New York to warrant a Clinton visit to the Texas bowl? I’m seeing a Scarlet Knight cowboy hat in her near future.

Ahh JaHerr a name caller…so PC of you. Add something worth reading take your name calling to KOS.

I think I contribute enough worth reading to earn the occasional one liner. And please, I may be liberal many things but don’t paint me as PC. I hate everything about “PC” and would gladly fight with any of you to destory it.

Last night, Senator Barack Obama did a clever skit on “Monday Night Football.” It’s safe to say that I don’t agree with about 90% of what Obama believes, but I admire the guy’s style. In one skit, he managed to……

I am amused, however, that your criticism of “me” is couched in your own projection, since it is you–along with the person I mentioned–who are conducting advocacy of another sort of banning.

And what does Michelle’s book about internment have to do with what I said? The first-, and second-generation Japanese Americans of the WWII era are in no way comparable to black Americans who happens to be named Jamal or Malik because his mom thought the name sounded nice.

But okay, don’t listen to me. Go right ahead and keep traveling down the road you’re going, slinging mud at people because of their names. I’m sure that all the rest of the Republican conservatives in this country will be thanking you some day. BTW, that last sentence is sarcasm.

You’re right. Fools to the left of me, fools to the right. And here I am stuck in the middle with appeasement monkeys.

Hello…hello…is this thing on? Ahem, we are at WAR. Suggest YOU do some research. Read the U.S. Constitution, pay particular attention to Section 9 “The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.” The public safety required it then and requires it now. Additionally, AP boss, you know, Malkin, wrote a book on this. You should read that too.

baldilocks on December 12, 2006 at 6:17 PM

I suppose Balidlocks will be advocating the ban of Michelle from the board as well, after all I am certain she has a book on the Japanese internment of World War II and the enemies that were within our midst.

Ahh….No more vents with Michelle….all from the PC police running amok on the board.

Suggests having a liitle Pork and leaving the Cows alone.

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