Top Palestinian advisor: Yes, Hamas really did meet with the Democrats

posted at 12:00 pm on December 11, 2006 by Allahpundit

I’m still not buying it. I mean, it sounds like them…

Ahmed Yousuf, chief political advisor to Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh, told the Maannews Palestinian news website that Hamas officials met recently with high-ranking American figures, “especially members of the Democratic party.”…

The source told Maannews the Democrats expressed an understanding with the Hamas principal of not recognizing Israel and applauded Hamas’ willingness to accept a long-term cease-fire with the Jewish state in exchange for an Israeli withdrawal to what is known as the pre-1967 borders – meaning an evacuation of the Gaza Strip, West Bank and eastern sections of Jerusalem.

…but don’t they lack the necessities to pull something like this off?



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WHO! WE WANT…no DEMAND NAMES!!!!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on December 11, 2006 at 12:03 PM

I heard FOX News mention this rumor this morning, but I need to hear a little more logic as to why they would do something so stupid other than that they just America and Israel.

frankj on December 11, 2006 at 12:07 PM

If they did do it, the media will spin it as “tough, strong” Democrats taking charge and straightening out Bush’s foreign policy “mess” or “fiasco” or whatever the pejorative du jour is and no one will mind. Certainly no one will have the testicular fortitude to press charges against the ones who did it.

Laura on December 11, 2006 at 12:10 PM

frankj, is there a verb missing at the end of that last post?

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bbz123 on December 11, 2006 at 12:11 PM

Hell, proof of the Swimmer going to the Commmies to make an end-run around Reagan didn’t even get a glimmer of shame,this will actually increase their cred among the nutroot world.Despicable if true but they will not care.

bbz123 on December 11, 2006 at 12:14 PM

I certainly don’t think its inconceivable – it would be interesting if some names were thrown out and see if they have some alibi for their whereabouts. It wouldn’t be the first time Democrats tried their hand at independent foreign policy. Remember Kerry & Harkin’s “Dear Comandante letter” and visit to Nicaragua in the ’80s?

CP on December 11, 2006 at 12:16 PM

Well, Lurch met with the chinless ophthalmologist in Damascus during the 2004 presidential campaign… so it certainly would not be out of character.

Spiny Norman on December 11, 2006 at 12:18 PM

Balls!

Troy Rasmussen on December 11, 2006 at 12:23 PM

frankj, is there a verb missing at the end of that last post?

It’s a choose your own verb comment.

frankj on December 11, 2006 at 12:23 PM

A nice bunch, those Palis.

3 Palestinian kids dead in Gaza drive-by

JammieWearingFool on December 11, 2006 at 12:24 PM

For everyone who isn’t buying this yet, consider that they know their media power in this country and they can pretty much do whatever the hell they want. I can’t get past the fact that they’ve been able to convince what I imagine is probably a majority of Americans, that Bush lied or at least mislead on WMDs, while those Americans are clueless when presented with the fact that these same Dems spent 13 years leading up to the war making the case, Clinton made regime change our policy a month before making a stronger case than Bush did, before attacking Iraq himself. (Not even getting in to what I think is obvious – that the WMDs were there). They’ve managed to convince the country that the economy sucks while it continues to boom for the past 3 or 4 years. Polls consistently show the public overwhelmingly negative on the economy, and the libs argue that this is because only the rich are benefiting, but when polls ask the question about personal finances an extreme majority are happy. The only way this can be is if they are being led to believe that the economy sucks, so they assume since they’re doing okay that they’re a fluke.

I could go on and on, my point is that I don’t think simply dismissing this because we think it would be so stupid and outrageous for them to do, that even they wouldn’t do it. How many times have you caught yourself saying that over the past 5 years, only to realize a few weeks later, they did do, whatever it was.

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, the ruling Democrats, those that weild power, are evil to their core and should never be underestimated.

RightWinged on December 11, 2006 at 12:24 PM

Oh, and a quick addition to that… Remember that Rockefeller admitted on TV that he went to the middle east OVER A YEAR before the Iraq war and told leaders of the surrounding countries that Bush was determined to go to war. Of course, this was his opinion, but being in the high power position he is, is it not conceivable that word made it back to Saddam in that YEAR and he had the WMDs moved (which there are numerous reports, including by Russian military trucks… which makes sense considering we captured documents showing that in the weeks before the war, Saddam was hiding Turkish and Russian scientists from UN inspectors in buildings they were inspecting).

But again, many argued that this was treason on Rockefeller’s part. I’m no legal professional, so I don’t know, but he certainly should have been tossed out on his ass. And worse, he not only thought it was okay, he bragged about it on TV! Ian used to have the details and video posted at his old site, but I just tried to access the post and it didn’t work.

Keep in mind too what we’ve recently learned about Kennedy’s attempts to run PR for the KGB.

RightWinged on December 11, 2006 at 12:30 PM

Conceivable for sure, but they need to get some names out on the table for these charges to carry any weight, and then have to show that the meeting could have actually taken place (which doesn’t necessarly prove it did). Without that, you really have nothing to go on but an unsubstantiated allegation.

I certainly wouldn’t put it past them (the dems) to do such a thing though.

thirteen28 on December 11, 2006 at 12:31 PM

A nice bunch, those Palis.

3 Palestinian kids dead in Gaza drive-by

JammieWearingFool on December 11, 2006 at 12:24 PM

Uh, what makes you think that matters? Israel didn’t do it, so there won’t be outrage, protests, car bomb retaliations that the left and media will treat as justified. Please only post when Israelis mistakenly kill innocents, so we can then be outraged.

RightWinged on December 11, 2006 at 12:31 PM

Nice!

the Democrats expressed an understanding with the Hamas principal of not recognizing Israel and applauded Hamas’ willingness to accept a long-term cease-fire with the Jewish state in exchange for an Israeli withdrawal to what is known as the pre-1967 borders – meaning an evacuation of the Gaza Strip, West Bank and eastern sections of Jerusalem.

What’s worse is that these traitors actually believe that if Isreal did “withdrawl” that Hamas would be satisfied and would be a peaceful neighbor, and all will be well in the land of furry animals.

PinkyBigglesworth on December 11, 2006 at 1:01 PM

And if the Democrats did meet with them? These are the people that regularly lash out at the President on foreign soil. They have no loyalty to this nation beyond that which is required to win elections, and their base is rabidly anti-American.

No one in the media is going to call them on it, and there’d be no consequences for it if anyone did. Democrats do what they do for their own reasons, not in the best interests of the country; they’ve proven that time and again over the past 40 years.

spmat on December 11, 2006 at 1:02 PM

And if the Democrats did meet with them? These are the people that regularly lash out at the President on foreign soil. They have no loyalty to this nation beyond that which is required to win elections, and their base is rabidly anti-American.

No one in the media is going to call them on it, and there’d be no consequences for it if anyone did. Democrats do what they do for their own reasons, not in the best interests of the country; they’ve proven that time and again over the past 40 years.

spmat on December 11, 2006 at 1:02 PM

We can be sure that Mr. New Tone would pursue charges against them as aggressively as he has against all the leakers of classified information – i.e. not at all.

thirteen28 on December 11, 2006 at 1:12 PM

Well…it wasn’t kennedy…too drunk to understand…could be traitor murtha and his buddy levin…

areseaoh on December 11, 2006 at 1:23 PM

Oh, c’mon. Democrats aren’t that stupid, and they don’t hate their country that much …

… do they?

(crickets chirp happily)

Well, still color me skeptical. But not very.

A more interesting question is: if this is true, will it make the guilty parties less likely to be re-elected … or MORE likely?

At this point, I’m pretty sure that if Hillary Clinton went and had group love with Osama Bin Laden, Fidel Castro, and Hugo Chavez, liberals everywhere would collapse in collective rapture and immediately annoint her Queen for all eternity.

Just sayin.’ As bad as it sounds to people with, well, brains, to most liberals this might be a wonderful thing.

Professor Blather on December 11, 2006 at 1:26 PM

Could this have been the tete a tete……

Wouldn’t put it past them getting chummy with this group.

USN6872 on December 11, 2006 at 1:35 PM

Let’s find out who went, and then dust off the Logan Act.
Oh wait, you actually have to have balls to enforce the law.

Iblis on December 11, 2006 at 1:37 PM

If this is true, I’d be absolutely shocked to find out Nicky Joe Rahall wasn’t in the mix.

Readymade on December 11, 2006 at 1:42 PM

frankj, is there a verb missing at the end of that last post?
It’s a choose your own verb comment.

frankj on December 11, 2006 at 12:23 PM

Heh. Disregard? Despise? Dislike? Uh …………… Hate?

Jaibones on December 11, 2006 at 2:11 PM

Democrats undermining U.S. foreign policy? Say it isn’t so Joe!

infidel on December 11, 2006 at 2:14 PM

Who were they and, what did they say and when?

right2bright on December 11, 2006 at 2:16 PM

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, the ruling Democrats, those that weild power, are evil to their core and should never be underestimated.

RightWinged on December 11, 2006 at 12:24 PM

Amen brother.

Nor will they ever be held to the same standards as the Republicans. So they can continue doing their “evil” with full media pardon.

right2bright on December 11, 2006 at 2:20 PM

Is it April 1st today? First this, and then the Israel/Nuke post?

I fail to understand what is so unbelievable about this. This would only be shocking to someone living in a cave for the last 20 years.

Questions such as “why would they do this?”

Are you serious?!

Gregor on December 11, 2006 at 2:33 PM

Any bets Baghdad Jim (Jim McDermott D-Al-Quada D-WA) is on the list?

This would be right up his alley. Remember him? He is the one who ‘leaked’ private cell-phone conversations of the Speaker Gingrich to the media and who visited him old pal Saddam before the war.

CrazyFool on December 11, 2006 at 2:50 PM

Okay:
1. Who among the Dem party leadership has categorically denied this… and who hasn’t denied it or has denied it in some qualified way?

2. Work down that last list to document known travels outside the US.

3. Then look for situations where more than one of them was in the same place at the same time.

4. Then ask what was on the agenda when they met among themselves outside the US.

5. Keep publishing who has probably been exonerated, and who hasn’t.

drunyan8315 on December 11, 2006 at 3:00 PM

Notice how Honora, Constantine, and GregH are keeping their big, fat, leftist mouths shut on this topic?

I hope someone can ferret out the names of these traitors. They need to be prosecuted.

georgej on December 11, 2006 at 3:40 PM

They don’t hate America. They just hate conservatives, Christians, and capitalism.

JohnJ on December 11, 2006 at 3:58 PM

I wonder how big a freezer one needs to be a Dhimmi. Any chance these traitors will benefit from this meeting with the enemy?

infidel on December 11, 2006 at 5:10 PM

georgej on December 11, 2006 at 3:40 PM

Good call.

right2bright on December 11, 2006 at 5:21 PM

I am a Jew – my conservative friends always ask me – “How could any jew vote for a Democrat?” I can’t answer them. I hope that all Jews that voted for any Democrat read this story and repent. The Dems will give up Israel in a second to appease the terrorists. THey really believe that this approach will insure that the jihadists leave us alone. They just can’t get their heads around the idea that the jihadists will attck us anyway. They really do not care about politics – they want the entire world to be wack job Muslims.

iam7545 on December 11, 2006 at 5:34 PM

georgej on December 11, 2006 at 3:40 PM

Sir, you don’t want THeDRiFTeR and JaHerer22 to miss out…

Entelechy on December 11, 2006 at 6:40 PM

How could any jew vote for a Democrat?
iam7545 on December 11, 2006 at 5:34 PM

Dennis Prager tackles this question in his books. It is hard to go against a history and decades of family members and not vote with the many, it is taught at an early age. Throw in the respect they have for the other minororities (read blacks) and you have a base of support for the dems. The irony is that the conservative values mimick so much of the traditional Jewish values. They forget that the KKK was a democratic organization. Now that it is reporting that the dems are fighting to have Israel destroyed, or that the dems have done everything to keep the blacks un-educated and on the plantation and you begin to see a weakening of those voting blocks. The only reason Hillary has not come out against the war is the loss of Jewish votes would be devasting. But she didn’t throw out the words “f**king Jew Bas**rd” because she is fighting for Israel’s right to be a sovereign nation.
Thanks, iam7545, for being independent.

right2bright on December 11, 2006 at 6:57 PM

I’m adopting a “wait and see” approach.

I’m waiting to see how hard the MSM ignores this story.

Merovign on December 11, 2006 at 7:07 PM

I don’t wanna believe it. I wanna give ‘em the benefit of the doubt first, because they ARE Americans, and they HAVE to have SOME form of loyalty to America. Right? … *Right*? (tap tap tap) Is this thing on?

But then I think back to when Dick(head) Dirtbin compared our Soldiers to Hitler and Pol Pot. Kerry compared them to Jzengis Khan. Then there was McDirtmouth and Kennedy and all the other Dhimmis feeding propaganda material to our enemies, and I think maybe it COULD be true. But let’s all pray that it’s all a hoax by the enemy to play us against each other and that we’re actually all on the same side.

Hmmm, all on the same side, now wouldn’t THAT be nice? Especially during FREAKIN’ WARTIME!

Tony737 on December 11, 2006 at 9:44 PM

well yeah, because GregH / honora / Constantine JaHere22 & THe DRiFTeR support this, but they don’t want to admit it, because they know we will rip them apart on this. Remember liberals are the party of appeasement & surrender.

Starblazer on December 11, 2006 at 10:13 PM

Tony, not even another 9/11 will there ever be another “come together as a nation” because liberals will be more than happy for another attack on this country, so that they can blame Bush for creating the terrorists since 2003 & yet this country was attacked on 9/11/01 BY THE TERRORISTS. oh wait, i meant to say freedom fighters ( that’s because Cindy “Baghdad” Sheehan refers to them now)

Starblazer on December 11, 2006 at 10:19 PM

right2bright – thanks –
I know that it goes way back – BUT in recent years it ahould have become more apparent that 1- the Dems really do not support Israel and 2 – President Bush does. Clinton regularly pulled his typical back stabbing move and would not atand up for Israel at the UN. I blame the entire mess on Clinton – he selfishly pressed Arafat to come to Camp David knowing that he could not and would not agree to anything. Arafat at Camp David was the equivalent inviting someone with $10 in their pocket to a $50 ante poker game.

President Bush has continually voted against the BS resolutions at the UN and has allowed Israel to defend itself. The idea that Bush should have pushed for peace talks with HAMAS is insane – never worked before – will never work.

ANNNNDDDDD furthermore – in recent years the anti semites of the Dem party have come out of the closet. Supporting idiots like Jimmy Carter, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Michael Moore has made it hard to deny where the heart of the Dems really is. A visit to the Kos idiots will reveal to any Jew that the dems are rooted in anti Israel – anti semetic policy. Now these geniuses want our COUNTRY to negotiate with IRAN!!!

GO FIGURE

iam7545 on December 11, 2006 at 11:46 PM

iam7545 on December 11, 2006 at 11:46 PM

I am confounded to. My dear tennis partner is jewish and is as democratic as they come. What he has done, like so many, is that he has divorced himself from Israel. He has separated himself from Israel so he can support these bigots. Have you found that among your friends and family?

right2bright on December 12, 2006 at 12:53 PM

I’m shocked, shocked…br>
To quote Capt. Louis Renault:

“round up all the usual suspects:

byteshredder on December 12, 2006 at 2:11 PM