Video: David Lynch, Truther
posted at 11:51 am on December 8, 2006 by Allahpundit
Who would have guessed that the mind behind Twin Peaks and Mulholland Drive prefers a dark, nonsensical, impossibly convoluted conspiracy theory to explain what happened on 9/11?
Wait ’til his fans find out. His new movie’s out this week; this could double the box office.
FYI, he doesn’t mention it by name but it’s pretty clear the film he’s talking about is Loose Change.
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At the same time, it’s really funny to hear Lynch describing a scenario (the official one) and complaining that details don’t make sense and that questions never get explained. Now he knows how it feels.
Alex K on December 8, 2006 at 11:53 AM
I am not surprised that the man who gave us “Eraserhead”(which to this day still gives me a headache trying to figure out)would be a truther. Mel Brooks once described Lynch as “Jimmy Stewart from Mars” go figure. Although, Blue Velvet is still one of my favorite films.
vcferlita on December 8, 2006 at 11:56 AM
Quick question: Which makes more sense, the plot of The Lost Highway or the Truther conspiracy?
I think it’s a wash mahself.
armylawyer on December 8, 2006 at 12:00 PM
Truthers.
I hate those guys.
Slublog on December 8, 2006 at 12:15 PM
Beslan musta been Rove’s doin too. Sick and demented. Lynch should join the Phelps Church they belong together.
infidel on December 8, 2006 at 12:22 PM
Eraserhead did it.
BelchSpeak on December 8, 2006 at 12:31 PM
People spout off these dumba$$ conspiracy theories in the hope it makes them relevant. It doesn’t.
EF on December 8, 2006 at 12:34 PM
My favorite is always: “In Pennsylvania, there was just a hole in the ground. There was no wreckage.”
Wow!
Right Tracker on December 8, 2006 at 12:37 PM
A quick check of the YouTube comments are pretty tasty:
“Someone told me few years ago that if you didnt believe the official story you were put on some kind of list.”
This guy could work for the AP!
Right Tracker on December 8, 2006 at 12:39 PM
Unbelievable. How stupid can people be? How hard is it to understand?
Muslims take over planes.
Muslims fly said planes into large buildings killing thousands.
There you go.
CrimsonFisted on December 8, 2006 at 12:40 PM
I was about to tell about the plane crash in Chicago (O’Hare), in order to address his nitwit comment on PA.
Now, why on earth would I want to grace this f**king idiot’s conspiracy fantasies with a real argument?
Jaibones on December 8, 2006 at 12:42 PM
“The owls are not what they seem.”
rw on December 8, 2006 at 12:48 PM
No skid marks in PA? Why should a PLANE leave skid marks? That’s what you get from tires on the road when you slam on the breaks, you idiot!
The Monster on December 8, 2006 at 12:56 PM
honestly, I’d be a whole lot more shocked if he wasn’t a truther.
Editor on December 8, 2006 at 1:00 PM
Time to wake up!
PinkyBigglesworth on December 8, 2006 at 1:01 PM
It’s funny to a point. For those of us who live in NYC or DC, it gets more than annoying. I’ve met victims of the Pentagon attack. One of my friends saw the plane fly over her head when she was stuck on 395 that morning. The Bush-hating has really exposed some looneys in the last 5 years.
Malpaso on December 8, 2006 at 1:06 PM
I agree with the point that it is absurd to address these clowns, yet I feel compelled to ask: If they (Bush, the CIA, whoever) were so callous about human life as to engineer this whole thing, why would they go for a controlled demolition? Those are supposed to limit damage.
The Web is all important when boneheads rule the mainstream media and entertainment? Wonder if the knew Senate will ratify any proposals for UN regulation of the Internet.
Coyote D. on December 8, 2006 at 1:28 PM
some sheeple, I mean people, are just an immense waste of good oxygen.
dalewalt on December 8, 2006 at 1:32 PM
This is sad. I’ve been a fan for 20 years, but c’mon. Lynch is a fantastically creative person, but to believe 9/11 happened just as we all saw it happen, he’d have to make a huge leap of awareness that even he is not prepared to make: there are bad people out there doing bad things, and not everything is America’s fault.
Sometimes a terrorist attack is just a terrorist attack.
saint kansas on December 8, 2006 at 1:34 PM
Cocain is a powerful drug.
natesnake on December 8, 2006 at 1:36 PM
“Where I come from, the birds sing a pretty song.”
and. . .
“Yep, that’s an ear all right.”
“It is happening again.”
Sounds like Lynch has been Bass Fishing on Mars for too long.
Gottafang on December 8, 2006 at 1:41 PM
Thanks for that link, PinkyBigglesworth! If that don’t say it all, nothing can. They should turn that into tv commercials.
tickleddragon on December 8, 2006 at 1:43 PM
Oh, and comment on David Lynch? Um…unless the real story has a midget, backwards voice tracks and a female pleasuring herself, he has no relevence at all. And this from a Film Degree holder. And “genius” he ain’t, even from a filmic standpoint.
tickleddragon on December 8, 2006 at 1:46 PM
Two words should cover it.
Friggin Idiot.
fogw on December 8, 2006 at 1:48 PM
li’ll ol’ bobby peru wants to go shopping at the seafood store. bobby peru is goin’a jump[ all ’round that hole like a big daddy jackrabbit.
jummy on December 8, 2006 at 1:51 PM
bobby peru don’t come up for air!
jummy on December 8, 2006 at 1:52 PM
Just wait till the whole truth comes out, then Mel Gibson will be in real trouble with James Brolin. I heard Clooney is going to play GW in the 9/11 musical with Rosie as Barney and expose this whole CIA/Pentagon/Mormon plot for what it really is. Or maybe not. Rather has the scoop, or so Gore says, but who knows? I need another beer.
Limerick on December 8, 2006 at 3:08 PM
The movement…. geez.
Who else agrees that there’s a 50/50 chance there will be official investigations in to a possible 9/11 conspiracy theory within the next 10 years? Sadly, stealthily, the truther “message” is getting out. I’ve always said that these truther videos (Loose Change, etc.) can be pretty compelling at first, because we are so conditioned to believe someone wouldn’t flat out lie for fear of being caught lying… but all you have to do is first, consider the common sense aspects (thousands of people involved and no one running to the press, etc., eyewitnesses lying, phone conversations faked, etc. etc.)… And then do a little googling using “debunk” in your searches. Or just hit up “Screw Loose Change” (which hasn’t always been around).
But sadly most won’t see the debunking information. Most will think the conspiracy theories are just retarded, but like the South Park episode said “25% of the country is retarded”, and I get the feeling that number is growing.
Again, anyone else think there is a decent chance for official investigations? (Seriously)
RightWinged on December 8, 2006 at 3:12 PM
20 years ago I held a top secret clearance (special access)on high-tech defense industry projects. Everyone cleared was thoroughly background checked and were dedicated not just to the work, but to the need for secrecy.
Within 5 years of leaving these projects, I can’t think of a SINGLE secret (save the boring technical details) that HASN’T been exposed. And these projects weren’t nearly as controversial as 9/11. There is NO WAY such a plot could have been hatched – thousands of people would have been employed, and I doubt many (any?) would have been so devoted to “the cause”. And the CIA, Bush’s supposed minions, etc., would know such a secret could never be kept.
What are these “truthers” thinking?
stonemeister on December 8, 2006 at 4:16 PM
What are they thinking? I once read an analyisis of conspiracy theorists like the “truthers.” It comes down to something like this: These are unhappy people, who feel that they have no control over their own lives and that the world is too complicated for them to handle. They can’t fathom random simple answers because it means that the world and events are beyond their control. They’d rather believe that some people have control and that by glimpsing the hidden thruths they can gain some measure of control themselves because “they see the strings.” So when faced with a simple solution like it was just AQ and 19 terrorists with some flight training, they have to rejected it for a more complicated explanation that is more in line with their world view. Their mantra is there are no simple answers, there are people out there with real power who control everything. I’ve met people like this before. Theyre usually very miserable, unhappy people who can’t understand why everyone around them seems so well adjusted and they just explain everyone else’s happiness away as the product of their ignorance of the “real world.” They think they’re the smart ones, they’re the ones who really know what’s going on, and that we’re too blind or stupid to know any better.
As for Lynch I would add, that he is also an example of what goes wrong when you refuse to make judgments and keep a perpetually open mind.
Mig on December 8, 2006 at 4:39 PM
16 of the 19 hijackers were in the United States before Bush was sworn in as President of the United States. 9/11 ring leader, Mohammed Atta, and the other terrorist pilots had been taking flight training while President Clinton was President 3 to 5 years before Bush was sworn in. Does this mean President Clinton wanted 9/11 to happen? HELL NO!!!
Bush was sworn in on January 20, 2001. 9/11 happened 7 1/2 months later.
The Pentagon asked for permission to share intelligence gathered by intelligence code named ABLE DANGER, concerning 9/11 ring leader Mohammed Atta in 1999 with the FBI.
President Clinton’s Attorney General, Janet Reno, and Assistant Attorney General, Jamie Gorelik, told Pentagon Lawyers to deny the request to share intelligence with FBI to arrest and bring Mohammed Atta in for questioning. The wanted to share this intelligence with the FBI, in 1999, but were told “NO”. Did our government drop the ball? YES.
http://www.answers.com/topic/able-danger
Does this mean President Clinton, Janet Reno, President Bush, and Jamie Gorelik wanted 9/11 to happen? HELL NO!!!
Donald Rumsfeld was in the freaking Pentagon, on 9/11, WHEN IT WAS HIT. If I was planning ane knew a “missile attack” was planned on the Pentagon I would get the hell out of there.
http://911review.com/disinfo/videos.html
http://www.oilempire.us/bogus.html
A plane didn’t hit the Pentagon? What complete crap.
“Aydan Kizildrgli, an English language student who is a native of Turkey, saw the jetliner bank slightly then strike a western wall of the huge five-sided building that is the headquarters of the nation’s military. ‘There was a big boom,’ he said. ‘Everybody was in shock. I turned around to the car behind me and yelled “Did you see that?” Nobody could believe it.’”
- “Bush Vows Retaliation for ‘Evil Acts’.” USA Today, 11 Sep 2001
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/11/attack-usat.htm
Terrance Kean, 35, who lives in a 14-story building nearby, heard the loud jet engines and glanced out his window.
“I saw this very, very large passenger jet,” said the architect, who had been packing for a move. “It just plowed right into the side of the Pentagon. The nose penetrated into the portico. And then it sort of disappeared, and there was fire and smoke everywhere. . . . It was very sort of surreal.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A13766-2001Sep11
RADIO interview with USA Today’s Mike Walter, who was driving near the Pentagon when he saw an American Airlines jet fly directly into the Pentagon.
http://www.cnn.com/2001/CAREER/trends/09/11/witnesses/usatoday.wav
angryamerican on December 8, 2006 at 4:54 PM
mmm…f911 was debunked strenuously enough that most people think mm is a misleader. it’ll take a sim ilar effort. popular mechanics did a large part of it. other more thorough debunkings are out there. we just, as always, lack the media skills.
jummy on December 8, 2006 at 5:53 PM
RightWinged – I was on a business trip to San Francisco and my boss started talking to me about this ‘documentary’ he’d seen on the internet called Loose Change.
He was saying how it made a compelling case that it wasn’t actually terrorists. I was polite and let him talk (although didn’t agree at all) because A) he’s my boss and B) I experienced 9/11 from 4 blocks away in NYC and I don’t like to talk ‘conspiracy theories’ with people.
The sad thing is, my boss was born and raised in Israel. If anyone should know what Muslim extremists are capable of, a man who spent the first 35 year of his life in Israel should qualify.
It seems like conspiracy theories are ‘sexier’ and therefore, more believable to sheeple. That does not bode well for the future.
JadeNYU on December 8, 2006 at 6:23 PM
I’ve stopped communicating with several family members and other distant relatives who are Truthers. Once you establish that someone is a truther, it’s like learning they are a Holocaust Denier or a Pedophile, it’s pretty much game over.
Most people who are that gullible are not worth saving.
JeffB. on December 8, 2006 at 7:08 PM
Well of course your boss buys in to it Jade… don’t you know the Zionists were behind it, and told not to come in to work that day? Get with the program! (j/k obviously)
Seriously though, I’ve heard that there is very basic psychology behind wanting to believe in conspiracy theories. Something about being “part of something” and believing that there is an almost “simpler” answer, with a bad guy to point the finger at so that you can cope with something, by pretending that the governmnet is that in control, and there is no threat that could manifest at any time.
RightWinged on December 8, 2006 at 7:26 PM
Lynch is a filmmaking genius, but nobody ever said that genius translates to other fields. I wouldn’t expect John McCain to be able to direct a “Mulholland Dr.” So I guess I can’t expect Lynch, for all his talent, to be coherent about U.S. foreign policy. I just have to compartmentalize my admiration for Lynch the director and let this other “truther” crap slide.
WasatchMan on December 8, 2006 at 7:59 PM
Isn’t it against the law to accuse someone falsely of horrific crimes? Even a public figure?
If not, why the frick not?
This isn’t criticism, it’s grotesque false accusations, and I for one am absolutely sick of it.
I have a hard time believing that even 25% of the public are stupid enough to fall for packs of lies like F911 or Loose Change, which are nothing more than edited photos, distorted testimony, and random made-up crap.
If it is true, then it really does cast the very concept of participatory democracy into doubt. How can you have a stable system of representative government if a quarter of your population is “functionally insane” (like functionally illiterate)?
To the “truthers:” Your “heroes” are lying to you so they can feel superior and make money. You are being suckered. And LITERALLY FIVE MINUTES of your own research will prove that to be true. The more time you spend, the more obvious it gets.
I really need to put that ad in the newspaper that just says “Send me all your money.” If people really are this dumb, at least I can make sure they’re not rich.
Merovign on December 8, 2006 at 8:16 PM
Why would the Great 9/11 Conspiracy Planners do everything so brilliantly, and then forget to place the phony WMD’s in a conventient bunker under some remote Iraqi oasis?
Like building a rocket ship and then forgetting to add the astronauts.
BTW Lynch’s original idea, for those who like “Blue Velvet”, was to have the villain not inhaling Nitrous Oxide but Helium and give the film’s ominous murderer a vocal sound like a one of the Chipmunks. (Dennis Hopper, of all people, had to talk sense to him out of this and have it changed lest the plot be destroyed and become just a higher budget mess like the gibbering “Eraserhead”.)
Personally, I think ‘Truthers’ like Lynch, et al, have all of the incisive intellectual penetration of a rubber suction dart.
Lick and stick.
profitsbeard on December 8, 2006 at 8:44 PM
Now that’s proof you don’t have to be a genius to make
great films. Just nuts. . . . They give awards for being NUTS.
Texyank on December 9, 2006 at 11:55 AM
Anyone who believes a movie made by a couple of teenagers (at the time of 9/11) deserves to live in a bizarro alternate universe. Now, how can send them all there?
Neo on December 9, 2006 at 7:10 PM
This is so…well, so David Lynch.
honora on December 10, 2006 at 2:05 PM