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	<title>Comments on: FIRE survey: 73% of public universities have unconstitutional speech codes</title>
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		<title>By: LTI Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>LTI Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;AllahPundit on Campus Free Speech [Serge]...&lt;/strong&gt;

The Carleton story seems to be getting some legs in the blogosphere. This excerpt begins with a quote from Ottawa University law professor Martha Jackman....</description>
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<p>The Carleton story seems to be getting some legs in the blogosphere. This excerpt begins with a quote from Ottawa University law professor Martha Jackman&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: georgej</title>
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		<dc:creator>georgej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 07:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the recent Supreme Court decision with respect to the law forcing colleges that accept federal funds to also allow armed forces recruiters showed, Congress can pass a law that cuts off federal funds to any college or university that censors (or allows anyone else to censor) any political opinion.  And it would pass constitutional muster, too.

That&#039;ll put an end to the campus thugs that storm the campus stages of conservative speakers.  That&#039;ll stop the assaults, too.  And it will put an end to shutting down campus organizations that are conservative or republican supporting.

Yes, this means that the wackjobs will also be allowed to speak on campus too.  But that is to expected in the marketplace of ideas.  When ever we confront the wackjob left in the agora, we always win.  That&#039;s why they try to silence our point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the recent Supreme Court decision with respect to the law forcing colleges that accept federal funds to also allow armed forces recruiters showed, Congress can pass a law that cuts off federal funds to any college or university that censors (or allows anyone else to censor) any political opinion.  And it would pass constitutional muster, too.</p>
<p>That&#8217;ll put an end to the campus thugs that storm the campus stages of conservative speakers.  That&#8217;ll stop the assaults, too.  And it will put an end to shutting down campus organizations that are conservative or republican supporting.</p>
<p>Yes, this means that the wackjobs will also be allowed to speak on campus too.  But that is to expected in the marketplace of ideas.  When ever we confront the wackjob left in the agora, we always win.  That&#8217;s why they try to silence our point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Maxx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 04:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ve always found it unfair that women can have abortions and I can’t. 

RightWinged on December 7, 2006 at 4:37 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes... why is it that women have a &quot;right&quot; to destroy human life for no other reason than it is convenient, and men are not allowed to do the same?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’ve always found it unfair that women can have abortions and I can’t. </p>
<p>RightWinged on December 7, 2006 at 4:37 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes&#8230; why is it that women have a &#8220;right&#8221; to destroy human life for no other reason than it is convenient, and men are not allowed to do the same?</p>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 03:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;…women’s equality rights…&lt;b&gt;how is equality an issue *IF MEN CAN’T HAVE BABIES*?&lt;/b&gt; With whom are they being compared for equality? Females of other species? Do female oragutans have greater access to “family planning”? Do female tree frogs receive better “reproductive counselling”?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes! And another thing:

Since the mother, father and child-to-be are all involved and affected by the decision, assigning sole discretionary powers to one person (i.e. the mother) may or may not be the &lt;i&gt;right&lt;/i&gt; decision, but it certainly isn&#039;t &quot;equal&quot;.  The irony that the pro-choice position is actually &lt;i&gt;anti&lt;/i&gt;-&quot;equality&quot;, yet is being synonym-ized with &quot;equality&quot;, seems to be lost on these people.

I don&#039;t think the people doing this really think these things out any more.  Instead I suspect they just appropriate whatever words out of the English language they want to and assign them to themselves - words like like &quot;equality&quot;, &quot;fairness&quot;, &quot;caring&quot;, and so on - and end up using them to describe whatever position it is they happen to take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>…women’s equality rights…<b>how is equality an issue *IF MEN CAN’T HAVE BABIES*?</b> With whom are they being compared for equality? Females of other species? Do female oragutans have greater access to “family planning”? Do female tree frogs receive better “reproductive counselling”?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes! And another thing:</p>
<p>Since the mother, father and child-to-be are all involved and affected by the decision, assigning sole discretionary powers to one person (i.e. the mother) may or may not be the <i>right</i> decision, but it certainly isn&#8217;t &#8220;equal&#8221;.  The irony that the pro-choice position is actually <i>anti</i>-&#8221;equality&#8221;, yet is being synonym-ized with &#8220;equality&#8221;, seems to be lost on these people.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the people doing this really think these things out any more.  Instead I suspect they just appropriate whatever words out of the English language they want to and assign them to themselves &#8211; words like like &#8220;equality&#8221;, &#8220;fairness&#8221;, &#8220;caring&#8221;, and so on &#8211; and end up using them to describe whatever position it is they happen to take.</p>
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		<title>By: Signalsped</title>
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		<dc:creator>Signalsped</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 02:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Thou Shalt Not Piss Off Thy Whiny, Agenda-Touting Classmate...&lt;/strong&gt;

The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE ) a group that I am nominally affiliated with, has released a report concerning the status of free speech on both public and private college campuses. The results are less than encouraging:...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Thou Shalt Not Piss Off Thy Whiny, Agenda-Touting Classmate&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE ) a group that I am nominally affiliated with, has released a report concerning the status of free speech on both public and private college campuses. The results are less than encouraging:&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mikeomatic</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikeomatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 00:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And don&#039;t pretend community college is a viable option. I should know. You can&#039;t get away from lefty f__ktards ANYWHERE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And don&#8217;t pretend community college is a viable option. I should know. You can&#8217;t get away from lefty f__ktards ANYWHERE.</p>
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		<title>By: The Autopsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Autopsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 23:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;I&#039;m exercising Free Speech to quash your right to...&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#039;ll make you a deal, though. I won&#039;t suppress your desire to spew racial epithets, and you won&#039;t complain when I send out a letter of recommendation which goes into minute detail about your colorful methods of expression....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>I&#8217;m exercising Free Speech to quash your right to&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll make you a deal, though. I won&#8217;t suppress your desire to spew racial epithets, and you won&#8217;t complain when I send out a letter of recommendation which goes into minute detail about your colorful methods of expression&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Puritan1648</title>
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		<dc:creator>Puritan1648</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 23:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“There are certain forms of speech we constrain because there are other competing interests we think are more important, and this is a case where it is not a radical position on the part of the student government to decide that between freedom of expression for anti-abortion groups and respect for reproductive autonomy and equality rights of women, we come down on the side of women’s equality rights.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

...*TRANSLATE*  *LANGUAGE=ENGLISH*

&quot;We protect the speech and protect the causes we *SUPPORT*, and those knuckle-dragging red-state mouth-breathers can go whistle up a drainpipe for all we care.&quot;

...women&#039;s equality rights...how is equality an issue *IF MEN CAN&#039;T HAVE BABIES*?  With whom are they being compared for equality?  Females of other species?  Do female oragutans have greater access to &quot;family planning&quot;?  Do female tree frogs receive better &quot;reproductive counselling&quot;?

I&#039;d bet that they don&#039;t support the Second Amendment at all...whachu think?

The idea behind free speech is for one side and the other to duke it out *VERBALLY*, letting the best idea carry the day.  If abortion advocates can&#039;t back up their spiel, they lose.  Simple.

Then again, *MOST IF NOT ALL* Leftist positions are logically as well as morally indefensible in the arena of ideas...so draconian speech codes make sense...if you&#039;re a draconian Leftist, that is....

...and if you weren&#039;t a draconian Leftist, but more of a pragmatic liberal, you&#039;d be out in the business world exercising the braincells filled with all that good, tasty book-larnin&#039; your parents paid for, makin&#039; the big bucks.  It&#039;s just that simple.  

Go to college, get an unmaketable degree, stay in college.  It only costs you your First Amendment rights.  Then again, if you&#039;re ideologically &quot;reliable&quot;, it really didn&#039;t cost you anything....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“There are certain forms of speech we constrain because there are other competing interests we think are more important, and this is a case where it is not a radical position on the part of the student government to decide that between freedom of expression for anti-abortion groups and respect for reproductive autonomy and equality rights of women, we come down on the side of women’s equality rights.”</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;*TRANSLATE*  *LANGUAGE=ENGLISH*</p>
<p>&#8220;We protect the speech and protect the causes we *SUPPORT*, and those knuckle-dragging red-state mouth-breathers can go whistle up a drainpipe for all we care.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;women&#8217;s equality rights&#8230;how is equality an issue *IF MEN CAN&#8217;T HAVE BABIES*?  With whom are they being compared for equality?  Females of other species?  Do female oragutans have greater access to &#8220;family planning&#8221;?  Do female tree frogs receive better &#8220;reproductive counselling&#8221;?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d bet that they don&#8217;t support the Second Amendment at all&#8230;whachu think?</p>
<p>The idea behind free speech is for one side and the other to duke it out *VERBALLY*, letting the best idea carry the day.  If abortion advocates can&#8217;t back up their spiel, they lose.  Simple.</p>
<p>Then again, *MOST IF NOT ALL* Leftist positions are logically as well as morally indefensible in the arena of ideas&#8230;so draconian speech codes make sense&#8230;if you&#8217;re a draconian Leftist, that is&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;and if you weren&#8217;t a draconian Leftist, but more of a pragmatic liberal, you&#8217;d be out in the business world exercising the braincells filled with all that good, tasty book-larnin&#8217; your parents paid for, makin&#8217; the big bucks.  It&#8217;s just that simple.  </p>
<p>Go to college, get an unmaketable degree, stay in college.  It only costs you your First Amendment rights.  Then again, if you&#8217;re ideologically &#8220;reliable&#8221;, it really didn&#8217;t cost you anything&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 22:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Furman actually used to be a Southern Baptist school, but has since went liberal and broke away from their Christian roots, like so many other schools. &lt;/em&gt;

I realize the rules are a little different, but A person doen&#039;t check their 1st Amendment rights at the door simply because they enter a private educational institution. 

Looks like F.I.R.E. will have penty to do for the foreseeable future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Furman actually used to be a Southern Baptist school, but has since went liberal and broke away from their Christian roots, like so many other schools. </em></p>
<p>I realize the rules are a little different, but A person doen&#8217;t check their 1st Amendment rights at the door simply because they enter a private educational institution. </p>
<p>Looks like F.I.R.E. will have penty to do for the foreseeable future.</p>
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		<title>By: MCPO Airdale</title>
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		<dc:creator>MCPO Airdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 22:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the media remains silent. . .</description>
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		<title>By: wardrobedoor</title>
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		<dc:creator>wardrobedoor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allah, the headline and pull quote are little misleading.

The headline is correct, but at least one of the schools mentioned in the pull quote (Furman University) is a private school. When combining public and private the percentage is 68.

Furman actually used to be a Southern Baptist school, but has since went liberal and broke away from their Christian roots, like so many other schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allah, the headline and pull quote are little misleading.</p>
<p>The headline is correct, but at least one of the schools mentioned in the pull quote (Furman University) is a private school. When combining public and private the percentage is 68.</p>
<p>Furman actually used to be a Southern Baptist school, but has since went liberal and broke away from their Christian roots, like so many other schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Terp Mole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terp Mole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this week, Iowa State Daily is co-opted by Koranimal propagandists. Today&#039;s taqiyah...&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iowastatedaily.com/media/storage/paper818/news/2006/12/07/Opinion/Commentary.Misconceptions.About.Islam-2526818.shtml?norewrite200612070903&amp;sourcedomain=www.iowastatedaily.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Misconceptions&lt;/em&gt; about Islam #3: Islam oppresses women&lt;/a&gt;

The &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;stereotypical &lt;/em&gt;image of a Muslim woman&lt;/strong&gt; portrayed in the media is that of a woman hidden behind a veil, voiceless, silent figure, and &lt;strong&gt;without any rights&lt;/strong&gt;. &lt;em&gt;Contrary to this stereotype&lt;/em&gt;, Muslims believe that women&#039;s rights were revealed by Allah (God) in the seventh century by prophet of Islam Muhammad (peace be upon him-pubh). Below is &lt;strong&gt;an account of some of these rights&lt;/strong&gt;...&lt;/blockquote&gt;Iowa State Daily invites you to help erase &lt;em&gt;stereotypes&lt;/em&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iowastatedaily.com/media/storage/paper818/news/2006/12/07/Opinion/Commentary.Misconceptions.About.Islam-2526818.shtml?norewrite200612070903&amp;sourcedomain=www.iowastatedaily.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this week, Iowa State Daily is co-opted by Koranimal propagandists. Today&#8217;s taqiyah&#8230;<br />
<blockquote><a href="http://www.iowastatedaily.com/media/storage/paper818/news/2006/12/07/Opinion/Commentary.Misconceptions.About.Islam-2526818.shtml?norewrite200612070903&amp;sourcedomain=www.iowastatedaily.com" rel="nofollow"><em>Misconceptions</em> about Islam #3: Islam oppresses women</a></p>
<p>The <strong><em>stereotypical </em>image of a Muslim woman</strong> portrayed in the media is that of a woman hidden behind a veil, voiceless, silent figure, and <strong>without any rights</strong>. <em>Contrary to this stereotype</em>, Muslims believe that women&#8217;s rights were revealed by Allah (God) in the seventh century by prophet of Islam Muhammad (peace be upon him-pubh). Below is <strong>an account of some of these rights</strong>&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Iowa State Daily invites you to help erase <em>stereotypes</em> <a href="http://www.iowastatedaily.com/media/storage/paper818/news/2006/12/07/Opinion/Commentary.Misconceptions.About.Islam-2526818.shtml?norewrite200612070903&amp;sourcedomain=www.iowastatedaily.com" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: RightWinged</title>
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		<dc:creator>RightWinged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;and respect for reproductive autonomy and equality rights of women, we come down on the side of women’s equality rights.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Equal rights?  Yes!  Finally, my day has arrived!  As a man, I&#039;ve always found it unfair that women can have abortions and I can&#039;t.  Where was this post a couple weeks ago, after I had Thanksgiving Lunch and Dinner?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>and respect for reproductive autonomy and equality rights of women, we come down on the side of women’s equality rights.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Equal rights?  Yes!  Finally, my day has arrived!  As a man, I&#8217;ve always found it unfair that women can have abortions and I can&#8217;t.  Where was this post a couple weeks ago, after I had Thanksgiving Lunch and Dinner?!</p>
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		<title>By: seejanemom</title>
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		<dc:creator>seejanemom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was the unabashed President of of my Young Republicans in school. Speech codes weren&#039;t fashionable then---but good luck shutting up the Mouth of the South. I only wish I was still in school and they would bring me up on a violation. There isn&#039;t enough money at the UNIVERSITY OF GEORGIA (not counting the athletic departent)......they couldn&#039;t stifle the HAMster...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was the unabashed President of of my Young Republicans in school. Speech codes weren&#8217;t fashionable then&#8212;but good luck shutting up the Mouth of the South. I only wish I was still in school and they would bring me up on a violation. There isn&#8217;t enough money at the UNIVERSITY OF GEORGIA (not counting the athletic departent)&#8230;&#8230;they couldn&#8217;t stifle the HAMster&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: urbancenturion</title>
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		<dc:creator>urbancenturion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Allah, but the dearth of comments may mean nearly complete concensus...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Allah, but the dearth of comments may mean nearly complete concensus&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CrazyFool</title>
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		<dc:creator>CrazyFool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the anti-life groups (i.e. pro-abortionists ).

I won&#039;t call them pro-choice - with all the means we have of prevention, unless its a case of rape, they had already made their choice.

Ok... bring on the flamethrowers....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the anti-life groups (i.e. pro-abortionists ).</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t call them pro-choice &#8211; with all the means we have of prevention, unless its a case of rape, they had already made their choice.</p>
<p>Ok&#8230; bring on the flamethrowers&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: forest</title>
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		<dc:creator>forest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There are certain forms of speech we constrain because there are other competing interests we think are more important&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wow!  Whether legal or not, what is amazing is that people are saying things like this without batting an eye or thinking twice.  I&#039;m beginning to believe that negative learning has become rampant at colleges - i.e. people get dumber with every year they spend on campus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There are certain forms of speech we constrain because there are other competing interests we think are more important</p></blockquote>
<p>Wow!  Whether legal or not, what is amazing is that people are saying things like this without batting an eye or thinking twice.  I&#8217;m beginning to believe that negative learning has become rampant at colleges &#8211; i.e. people get dumber with every year they spend on campus.</p>
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		<title>By: One Angry Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>One Angry Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Rarely will you see it put as bluntly as that — freedom of expression versus “respect.” It’s a false choice in this case, besides.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s a false &lt;em&gt;dichotomy&lt;/em&gt;. They&#039;re basically morally equating being pro life to being worse than a neo nazi. I believe neo nazis freedom of speach is protected &lt;strong&gt;more so&lt;/strong&gt; than pro lifers in this case. You&#039;re either &quot;respectful&quot; (ie pro choice) or &quot;too disgusting to be government funded&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Rarely will you see it put as bluntly as that — freedom of expression versus “respect.” It’s a false choice in this case, besides.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s a false <em>dichotomy</em>. They&#8217;re basically morally equating being pro life to being worse than a neo nazi. I believe neo nazis freedom of speach is protected <strong>more so</strong> than pro lifers in this case. You&#8217;re either &#8220;respectful&#8221; (ie pro choice) or &#8220;too disgusting to be government funded&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 20:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do question whether any of this leftist fascism is actually unconstitutional.  Even if they&#039;re publc schools, why can&#039;t a school regulate how it&#039;s students behave?  It has nothing to do with congress or laws (never mind whether the federal Constitution should regulate states), no one&#039;s being legally sanctioned.  Schools shouldn&#039;t have to make complicated legal arguments to prevent obstruction of speakers and building takeovers and such.  They should have the right to expel the brats if they don&#039;t behave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do question whether any of this leftist fascism is actually unconstitutional.  Even if they&#8217;re publc schools, why can&#8217;t a school regulate how it&#8217;s students behave?  It has nothing to do with congress or laws (never mind whether the federal Constitution should regulate states), no one&#8217;s being legally sanctioned.  Schools shouldn&#8217;t have to make complicated legal arguments to prevent obstruction of speakers and building takeovers and such.  They should have the right to expel the brats if they don&#8217;t behave.</p>
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		<title>By: JammieWearingFool</title>
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		<dc:creator>JammieWearingFool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 20:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I happened to be in college in this day and age, I&#039;d definitely be an agitator against this nonsense. I graduated 20 years ago and even then some of this indoctrination was beginning to seep in, but I fought against PC. I was editor of the college paper and we were rebels. We used to hammer the idiotic student government and side with the colege administration in many cases. Used to drive the lefties nuts. I recall we celebrated Yuri Andropov croaking and it nearly started a riot. 

One thing that was always fun was seeing some pompous  blowhard strut into my office and demand I print his letter, which 9 times out of 10 was chock full of typos. So we&#039;d print them verbatim to demonstrate their idiocy for all to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I happened to be in college in this day and age, I&#8217;d definitely be an agitator against this nonsense. I graduated 20 years ago and even then some of this indoctrination was beginning to seep in, but I fought against PC. I was editor of the college paper and we were rebels. We used to hammer the idiotic student government and side with the colege administration in many cases. Used to drive the lefties nuts. I recall we celebrated Yuri Andropov croaking and it nearly started a riot. </p>
<p>One thing that was always fun was seeing some pompous  blowhard strut into my office and demand I print his letter, which 9 times out of 10 was chock full of typos. So we&#8217;d print them verbatim to demonstrate their idiocy for all to see.</p>
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		<title>By: JammieWearingFool</title>
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		<dc:creator>JammieWearingFool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 20:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Due to restrictive speech codes, this will not be reported at those schools.

You suppose Mark Fuhrman would be welcome at Furman?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Due to restrictive speech codes, this will not be reported at those schools.</p>
<p>You suppose Mark Fuhrman would be welcome at Furman?</p>
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		<title>By: THeDRiFTeR</title>
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		<dc:creator>THeDRiFTeR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 20:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;between freedom of expression for anti-abortion groups and respect for reproductive autonomy and equality rights of women

quoted in entry&lt;/blockquote&gt;

False dichotomy, beside which the real issue has nothing to do with either.  Orwellian may be a stretch, but it does smack of canadian.  Well, Ottawa does have 2 universities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>between freedom of expression for anti-abortion groups and respect for reproductive autonomy and equality rights of women</p>
<p>quoted in entry</p></blockquote>
<p>False dichotomy, beside which the real issue has nothing to do with either.  Orwellian may be a stretch, but it does smack of canadian.  Well, Ottawa does have 2 universities.</p>
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