Video: Phelps’ shock troops chased away from soldier’s funeral
posted at 11:42 am on December 5, 2006 by Bryan
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Fred Phelps and his gang of crazies were recently chased away from the funeral of a US soldier killed in Iraq. Video here.
Rather than just perfunctorily denounce these lunatics, I suggest you watch this video of Phelps’ wife explaining why they behave the way they do. She’s clearly a bitter woman who can get fired up on rage at the drop of a hat. Something about her ain’t right.
Once you’ve watched the video, note that Mrs. Phelps in every case blames the tragedy of early death, be it for a child killed in an accident or a soldier who laid down his life protecting his family and country in war, Phelps blames the tragedy on the parents. They must have sinned somehow, resulting in the death of their child, according to the Phelps worldview.
Theologically, her stance is entirely unsound and entirely unsupported by scripture. In fact, it’s refuted by the Bible she claims to know so well. The best refutation of her stand is the entire Book of Job, which deals with the very issue of why bad things happen to people who have done no wrong. In the book, Job suffers calamity after calamity including the loss of his children, and Job’s three friends try out variations on the theme that Phelps uses in the second video to explain the tragedies besetting him. God explicitly rejects what Job’s friends, and by principle the Phelps crowd, say on the subject.
I don’t know who these Phelps creeps represent, but it’s not the God of the Bible. Not by a long shot.
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Howard Sten has actually had her on his show for the entertainment value she provides. Her act wears very thin after a while and enough people were calling in to say they switch channels when she was on.
Rich on December 5, 2006 at 11:47 AM
Well, I know who they represent. Satan.
It gives me the creeps to even see these people. He has like 11 children and most are lawyers. Ugh.
Rightwingsparkle on December 5, 2006 at 11:47 AM
Well, they’re not the Patriot Guard Riders, but I applaud them nonetheless.
Heh.
Pablo on December 5, 2006 at 11:48 AM
“We got a broken Wiiiinoooww!!”
I hope he pooed his pants.
Can someone extract that line of audio? I could make it my “received e-mail” sound.
And, Michelle singing, “I hear my tater tots calling me calling me..”
Mazztek on December 5, 2006 at 11:55 AM
Aren’t these the God Hates Fags nuts? Don’t they have the funeral of some murdered gay kid to protest?
GregH on December 5, 2006 at 11:57 AM
Freedom of speech is not free. These inbreds should be arrested for something. Despicable. These kind of protests at funerals need to be outlawed.
infidel on December 5, 2006 at 11:58 AM
there’s no ambiguity about it. they represent the democrats. phelps’s past association with al gore is frequently noted, but not the whole story. phelps courts outrage by expressing support for dictators who oppress gays, but does he pick theocrats like the mullahs for this? no. he names stalinists like castro and hussein. that’s what this is about: progressives putting on christian clothing to do what would otherwise be suicide.
not to say that his biggotry or identification with christianity is false in his mind, but what it is is left-alligned.
phelps is a win-win for progressives: they get to vicariously protest soldiers’ funerals while pinning it on christians and, by extension, the right.
jummy on December 5, 2006 at 12:03 PM
It’s funny how these videos get reposted at other sites and see surges of popularity. I remember when I first saw this video earlier this year, I think it was in June when this video came out.
ViperPilot on December 5, 2006 at 12:04 PM
They’re not a church, certainly not a Christian one. They’re a cult, with all of the blind fanaticism that word evokes.
ReubenJCogburn on December 5, 2006 at 12:06 PM
The Human Smegma Clan (blame Allah) relies on flawed Biblical interpretation so as to grossly misrepresent itself as a Christian organization. I think we can all agree on that.
What i want to know is, when did Tyra get all serious-ish on us? Can Miss Tyra please stick to what she does best?
Kid from Brooklyn on December 5, 2006 at 12:07 PM
Every local and state jurisdiction is different, but communities and states are passing laws that don’t prohibit the protests themselves, but regulate where and when they may take place.
For example, I recently read that a community passed an ordinance saying no permit for a protest would be issued that was within 1000 feet of a funeral.
From what I understand, Fred Phelps and his wife are both attorneys, and something like 9 or 10 of his kids are attorneys as well.
I have also read elsewhere that part of the reason why they act in such a in-your-face and wildly provocative way is that they are hoping to provoke emotional government responses that violate the letter of the law.
Once that happens, the clan of lawyers then pounces and sues in civil court for a monetary judgement. I don’t know how effective they are, but it might be where they are getting some of their money.
I have also read that Fred Phelps senior was disbarred because his conduct as a lawyer was un-ethical, or he had done some act illegal for a lawyer to do. But enough of his relatives are lawyers to continue on with the civil suits.
I suspect Bryan is the man to come to for religeous analysis of this guy, and that Allahpundit is the guy to come to for legal analysis of this guy and his family.
EFG on December 5, 2006 at 12:09 PM
Sorry about that. This link should work.
Kid from Brooklyn on December 5, 2006 at 12:10 PM
Contrary to the cowardly scum-of-the-earth Phelps gang, I’m betting the soldier being put to rest didn’t run from the enemy like a little girly man.
fogw on December 5, 2006 at 12:10 PM
Phelps is the ultimate MOBY. He’s a leftist, pretending to be Christian for the sole purpose of making Christians look bad.
BohicaTwentyTwo on December 5, 2006 at 12:13 PM
Kid from Brooklyn, we can always count on you for awesome video clips like that.
My personal favorite?
Those smokin’ hot videos of that French news reporter. Others may have forgotten about her. I certainly have not. Her image is seared, seared into my mind.
Lord have mercy.
EFG on December 5, 2006 at 12:15 PM
Mine, too, EFG….mine, too.
Kid from Brooklyn on December 5, 2006 at 12:20 PM
God bless those Patriot Guard Riders. Somebody needs to physically rein in these Phelps kooks. With love from Jesus, of course.
Valiant on December 5, 2006 at 12:21 PM
Well, think Michelle said it best….
Balls
I think that’s what Reagan called the Silent Majority. Ooops…somebody tried to speak over the Silent Majority before the Silent Majority decided to open up on them.
It is written, if you are struck, turn the other cheek.
I didn’t realize however that it would be THAT set of cheeks as they’re running the other way!!!
HarryStar on December 5, 2006 at 12:21 PM
Phelps should be deported to Venezuela
Ropera on December 5, 2006 at 12:22 PM
…Tyra referred to her as “Shirley”…and, while she’s gotten a much-needed make-over since I last saw her on Fox, I suspect that the woman in the Tyra clip is Shirley Phelps-Roper. She’s Fred’s daughter, not his wife…although, knowing Fred and his reputation as a father, it’s anybody’s bet.
She, along with several other of the Phelps Whelps who haven’t broken with the patriarch, is an attorney. Litigation is, I believe, the chief source of income for the Phelps clan. 11 of the 13 or so kids of Fred are lawyers. They sue *ANYONE* who crosses ‘em.
After they’re done suing, or if they don’t sue for some reason, they add the offender — like the entire nation of Sweden — to their prayer list…and they pray for their ruin.
The linked “better ruuuuuuuuuuuuun!” video seems to have been *THEIRS*, or done about them specifically. “A Day In The Life Of A Fanatic Heretic And Blasphemer”…yeah, I wanna see that.
Drift on over to Wikipedia and read up on Phelps and Westboro. I don’t doubt, given the open nature of Wiki, that some of it is trumped up, but enough of it is true (from my researches) to convince me that these folks are a pox, a plague, a pustule on the behind of Old Nick himself!
You know what they *REALLY* remind me of? Salafi Muslims…without the charm.
Puritan1648 on December 5, 2006 at 12:26 PM
I couldn’t listen beyond her first two sentences. That was enough. I’ve watched some video of Phelps preaching, and all he preaches is hate. He preaches about an unforgiving, vengeful, hating god. IMO Phelps represents his own personal “god”, falling into the trap of believing god is what he wants god to be.
Watching him preach reminded me of the line that even Satan can quote the bible.
taznar on December 5, 2006 at 12:27 PM
Isn’t it ironic that they have no problem protesting America and pretty much every thing it stands for, but the nano-second they feel the backlash of their actions, “Help, Police! Protect us! Help, Somebody? Help, Protect me!” “We have a broken winnndddooowwwww…….. uh, I think I craped in my pants!”
PinkyBigglesworth on December 5, 2006 at 12:29 PM
Phelps has turned what used to be a Baptist oriented congregation in Topeka, Kansas, into the very definition of a cult. Phelps and his ilk represent nobody but themselves. In Topeka, and Kansas, they are pretty much viewed as goof-balls. Kind of like the cartoons we see of a guy walking around with a sign warning of the end of the world.
Running them of is the right thing to do, but it often emboldens them. What they really hate is when people and the press ignore them.
One of their main reasons for doing these things is to get free media face-time. The local media in Kansas has finally learned and has stopped reporting on their antics, so now they have branched out to other states.
Unfortunatley, state and national TV have jumped at putting their faces on the news. All that this new media coverage is doing is encouraging them to continue their hateful and hurtful shenanigans.
Lawrence on December 5, 2006 at 12:30 PM
…no…actually…they’re a family…a *SEVERELY* disfunctional family. The only reason that they receive any attention is because of their outrageous, media-whore behavior.
Ol’ Fred gonna have some ’splainin’ to do….
Puritan1648 on December 5, 2006 at 12:32 PM
Benaiah on December 5, 2006 at 12:38 PM
Something about her ain’t right.
Benaiah on December 5, 2006 at 12:39 PM
I’m a pastor. I’m also, therefore, a semi-pro theologian… meaning that I’ve been trained – and studied, and sweat bullets and done research, etc etc etc – in biblical interpretation, biblical languages, communication, and so on and so on. Not to toot my own horn, but I think I have a pretty good idea of what the Bible teaches.
Phelps and his group – I won’t dignify them with the name ‘church’ – ain’t it. They are a classic case of ‘a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.’
Plus, they make the rest of us look like loons. Thanks, guys, for making my job of sharing the grace and love of Christ that much harder than it needs to be…
psrch on December 5, 2006 at 12:44 PM
Sick people like these use to be kept locked away from us regular crazies…
RalphyBoy on December 5, 2006 at 12:45 PM
I assume you are using the word family, the way one talks about the Manson family. These people give cults a bad name. I wish there was a comet/spaceship with their name on it.
BohicaTwentyTwo on December 5, 2006 at 12:45 PM
Interesting.
EFG on December 5, 2006 at 12:46 PM
I loved the part where the window got broken…
urbancenturion on December 5, 2006 at 12:51 PM
Apologies to Rick James.
BacaDog on December 5, 2006 at 12:57 PM
I hope the Patriot Guard counter protests at each and every one of those!
Also there is a nifty little article about their firm, Phelps Chartered regarding “abusive attorneys”.
kiakjones on December 5, 2006 at 12:58 PM
Hey, just a note to y’all – you don’t have to be a vet to join the PGR. If you ride you can join (I think you don’t even have to ride if you’re willing to provide support in other ways.) And it doesn’t matter what kind of bike you ride. Harleys, metrics, rice rockets, Beemers, Ducks, Geese, whatever. Join up, mount up and roll up.
Farmer_Joe on December 5, 2006 at 12:59 PM
This is an absurd statement that robbed you of all creditabilty. Phelps doesn’t represent Democrats or Republicans, conservatives or liberals. All he represents is his own crazy, warped, hate-filled world view. You can’t just pin everything you don’t like on Democrats because not only is it a lie, but it makes you look silly.
From Phelps’s website answering a question about why he pickets soldiers funerals:
They were raised on a steady diet of fag propaganda in the home, on TV, in church, in school, in mass media – everywhere – the two-pronged lie: 1) It’s OK to be gay; and, 2) Anyone saying otherwise, like WBC, is a hatemonger who must be vilified, demonized, marginalized into silence.
Therefore, with full knowledge of what they were doing, they voluntarily joined a fag-infested army to fight for a fag-run country now utterly and finally forsaken by God who Himself is fighting against that country.
Man, this guy is just spewing liberal talking points!
JaHerer22 on December 5, 2006 at 12:59 PM
This group is a distraction, but there is something worth examination. There is NOTHING that will ever dissuade this group. No review of the Bible – no knock on the head.
A terrorist attack by this group is only a matter of time. It reminds me of Aum Shinrikyo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum_Shinrikyo
Agrippa2k on December 5, 2006 at 1:13 PM
Has anyone ever tried to picket their church and homes? Maybe with signs such as “GOD HATES IDIOTS”
jman on December 5, 2006 at 1:14 PM
Pastor, they don’t make us look like loons. They are loons who should not be given any attention. They cleverly use today’s times of TV-hyperventilation. Donald Trump once said that bad publicity is much better than none. We and the media should ignore them completely. That would be their ultimate punishment.
I wonder what their dreams are like…
Entelechy on December 5, 2006 at 1:15 PM
Farmer_Joe, you are dead on right. No need to ride to join with the PGR.
jcon96 on December 5, 2006 at 1:15 PM
Why hasn’t the toxic shock syndrome taken these women? PMS is a daily thing!
Black Adam on December 5, 2006 at 1:16 PM
I thought they blamed the gays for all the ills of the world..?
SouthernGent on December 5, 2006 at 1:23 PM
I wonder what would happen if someone showed up at their church with a sign saying, “Rev Phelps is a fag”. Or if a gay man showed up and started ‘hitting on’ the male members of the congregation of Westboro church.
My experience dealing with whackos tells me that they wouldn’t like it so much.
Matticus Finch on December 5, 2006 at 1:27 PM
Somebody wrote a book about Fred Phelps. I don’t know how well sourced it is. Apparently, the intended publisher of this book refused to publish it. I don’t know if that is because of shoddy research, or because they feared getting sued by Fred Phelps, or a combination of both.
What is interesting is that in a lawsuit against Phelps, somehow this book in its entirety got entered into the case as evidence, so the book thus entered the public sphere/realm. And thus it became legal to publish (I think) on the internet.
Anyway, I read the introduction and the first chapter. If anyone wants to know more about Fred Phelps and his family, here ya go.
http://www.addictedtohate.com/index.htm
EFG on December 5, 2006 at 1:31 PM
They would probably sue you if you did.
EFG on December 5, 2006 at 1:32 PM
These people should read the new testament. Too much Leviticus for them!
Black Adam on December 5, 2006 at 1:41 PM
JaHerer22
jummy on December 5, 2006 at 1:43 PM
i didn’t say he “spew[s] liberal talking points”. i said he represents the democrats. its not nessesary to “spew liberal talking points” to represent the democrats. a less direct strategy, for instance would be one like what mobey outlined at a “rock the vote” event:
or you can take your extreme views on gays, once shared by at least a couple of party front-runners, but suddenly unfashionable, and transform it into an act which benefits the party.
i’ll quote my first comments so you can read them again.
jummy on December 5, 2006 at 1:57 PM
Farmer_Joe,
Right. If you can drive, you can join. I did! And you can mount more and bigger flags on your car. :-)
JaHerer22,
Let’s see, he hates America, he hates the military, he hates people who disagree with him and he’s certain that he occupies the moral high ground. Yup, you’ve got it!
Pablo on December 5, 2006 at 1:59 PM
Where I come from, we call refer to this as:
The laying on of hands…WITHOUT prayer.
It is purportedly a little known doctrine of the Christian faith.
(Just kidding.)
CyberCipher on December 5, 2006 at 2:01 PM
This is a southpark episode waiting to happen.
One Angry Christian on December 5, 2006 at 2:11 PM
This isn’t about religion, or “hating fags”, or politics. This is about narcissism plain and simple. If they can show up at a funeral and piss you off, they get exactly what they want. They want to control you by controlling your emotions. And they win every time.
They wanted to protest the funerals of the Amish girls by holding up signs that read “Your daughters were whores and deserved to die.” What was the purpose of that other than to inflame everyone? They love it. Have you seen the look of glee on that woman’s face when people scream at her? Little Ol’ Shirley can control the emotions of a mass number of people just by spewing a little bit of religious talk.
Look at her daughters. You can almost see what’s going through their heads. Wow, Mom is a celebrity! She’s getting interviewed everywhere. People are interested in her. All she has to do is recite gospel. We should try that, too.
The quicker people stop talking to them or about them, the quicker they will go away.
CookeyD on December 5, 2006 at 2:23 PM
For all of you wishing Phelps and his troops would just go away…
Have you ever thought about why you don’t hear of them picketing the funerals of members of the GLBT community any more? It’s because the community beat them. Every time Phelps announced that they were going to picket a GLBT funeral, the community would announce a fund raiser. They are good (at least in New Mexico) about raising money for charities.
It would be sort of like those walk-a-thon fund raisers except instead of miles, it was minutes. People could contribute based on how many minutes Phelps and his group would stay. So, for every minute each member of his group was picketing, money was going to a “Gay” sponsored charity, such as AIDS or Breast Cancer research. They wanted to set up a tote board right across from Phelps group to show them how much they appreciated their assistance in raising money and how much they raised. I don’t know if they ever raised any funds though. Surprisingly, everytime a fund raiser was announced, Phelps would cancel the protest. Imagine that.
Maybe the straignt community should start holding fund raisers for AIDS research.
Catseye on December 5, 2006 at 2:26 PM
That was a brilliant idea.
CookeyD on December 5, 2006 at 2:27 PM
I thought you were going somewhere else with that….”whew”
BacaDog on December 5, 2006 at 2:30 PM
Further note (I realize you’re kidding, but I just want to take the opportuntity). The PGR are NOT violent. They use entirely legal means to shield the mourners. That is, visually, with big flags, and auditorially (is that a word?), with engine noise.
Farmer_Joe on December 5, 2006 at 2:31 PM
BacaDog said:
I thought you were going somewhere else with that….”whew”
No…there’s a leather community that would be glad to participate, but beating is a reward, not a punishment in that community. Besides, Phelp’s crew might discover they actually like it, so why encourage them!
Catseye on December 5, 2006 at 2:38 PM
This group picketed a funeral near my town a few weeks ago. Several of my family members rode their cycles to join the bikers and others protecting the family. Between law enforcement, the bikers and the local citizenry, they formed a phalanx that kept these nut cases far away from the family and the funeral procession. Although our conservative area of the country (my county was the reddest in the nation in 2004) stands against the homosexual agenda, we WILL NOT stand for hateful bigots like Phelps, especially when they go after our brave men and women in uniform.
My husband is a minister, and we accept as Christian brothers and sisters people in many different kinds of churches, but IMHO Phelps’ church is a non-Christian cult that preaches a hate-filled message in direct contradiction to Christ’s Biblical gospel. the God I serve is indeed a God of justice and judgment, and sin will be punished, but He is also a God of mercy, and His Holy Scriptures tell us that it is His kindness that leads men to repentance for their misdeeds.
SunnyBrook on December 5, 2006 at 2:39 PM
You can’t say the N word but you can do this.
Labamigo on December 5, 2006 at 2:51 PM
Or then again, maybe not so much. All those damned Americans keeping them down.
Mmmmmm…..backlash.
Pablo on December 5, 2006 at 2:56 PM
This is what hate does to people.
Gays, blacks, Norwegians, Muslims, tuba players–doesn’t matter who is hated, the hater is always the same: bitter, looking for someone to blame for their sad life. In this particular case I think there is probably some mental disorder at play. Or maybe I hope so.
honora on December 5, 2006 at 2:57 PM
That is awesome. That’s what needs to be done to those people always from now on.
Alex K on December 5, 2006 at 3:07 PM
Personnally, I think we are dealing with guilt-ridden closet homosexuals.
Dave R. on December 5, 2006 at 3:35 PM
The Phelps cult is not dangerous, in a physically way. What they are, really, are media whores seeking attention and free media publicity. And we all foolishly play into their hands.
They know exactly how to play to our emotions and get us riled up against them. Their primary purpose is to get us so riled-up against them that we give them free press coverage to spoute their nonsense over mass-media.
Lawrence on December 5, 2006 at 3:39 PM
In other words:
STOP FEEDING THE TROLLS!
;)
Lawrence on December 5, 2006 at 3:45 PM
…no, I mean family…as in biological unit.
The Westboro Baptist Church has, at its core, the Phelps family, in-laws, kids, and a few hangers-on.
I wonder what sort of a carnival ride it would be to take a bucket chair through Fred Phelps’ head, as you would through “Pirates of the Caribbean” at Disneyland.
…you’d probably have to show after….
Puritan1648 on December 5, 2006 at 4:42 PM
All this time, I’d thought these people were just an obnoxious cult, but after they got the treatment they oh so deserved, they land a TV interview. How about that? The MSM suddenly giving them airtime? Now?
Maybe they’re really just another moonbat MSM creature creation under it all. The media always referred to them as Christians (despite their very non-Christian behavior) which seemed to be a simple ploy to make Christians look bad in the public’s eye. Maybe it’s time to see from where they get the money to enable them to hang out at funerals instead of working.
naliaka on December 5, 2006 at 4:42 PM
…have to agree with you there. That San Fran city councilman from a couple of threads ago…”We don’t need a military”…he was spewing pie-in-the-sky Leftist “enlightenment”.
Phelps is a breed all his own, resembling but not related to vermin like rats, roaches and boy bands. Shirley is his frequent mouthpiece nowadays, as I think the old man himself is winding his warranty down, so to speak. Get her ramped up — as I saw her during one of their previous outrage periods on Hannity & Colmes — and she’s a *RAVER*! I wanna party with her!
No…don’t like the ol’ Party of Treason, but you can’t pin Phelps even on them…it’d be almost beyond the pale to pin ‘em on Chavez or Castro. These folks defy comparison, and the rest of Creation is relieved.
Puritan1648 on December 5, 2006 at 4:48 PM
…there are well over a dozen, probably two dozen, attorneys in the family. They’ve probably got harrassment covered legally with the city of Wichita (where they live). Try it, they’ll sue. They like to sue. They live to sue.
Puritan1648 on December 5, 2006 at 4:51 PM
…go back up to the top and link over to that Tyra show clip again…take a *CLOSE* gander at Shirley. She doesn’t get *NEARLY* as worked up there as I’ve seen her elsewhere…her coal wagon doesn’t make it all the way outta the mine….
Puritan1648 on December 5, 2006 at 4:58 PM
2nd Peter 3:15–”…and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is within you, with humilty and respect…”
Galatians 5:22-23–”…the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control.”
I guess the Phelps don’t have those verses in their Bibles. Along with Romans 3:23–”For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of GOD.”
BigOrangeAxe on December 5, 2006 at 6:05 PM
…see you, BigOrangeAxe, and raise you:
…boasting in the damnation of sinners and those whom *THEY* regard as sinners…it’s the same as boasting in the law, boasting of their own righteousness….
…giving unbelievers something to scoff and laugh at. Satan has plenty of tricks to cheat people into unbelief — “…who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth.” Romans 1:18 — so they don’t need Fred Phelps’ help any.
Puritan1648 on December 5, 2006 at 6:25 PM
Heh.
This crowd seemed all geared up to slap these nutbags around but good. Those windows don’t break too easily…glad no one got hurt bad…I guess.
Jaibones on December 5, 2006 at 7:26 PM
Actually that’s a FANTASTIC idea. Not so much on the AIDS research, but as a fund for the families of the Soldier. (Nothing wrong with AIDS research, but it doesn’t have much to do with honoring a dead soldier.)
I suggest this: We conservatives set up a fund. We could call it the Freedom Defenders Fund (FDF). For every minute a solider’s funeral is protested by the Phelpses or any Wacko group, the family of the soldier is granted some monetary amount. I’d like to see as much as $1000.00 per minute, but the fund would have to be pretty big to support that.
Can you imagine after a bunch of nuts like the Phelpses protests a soldier’s funeral, they see a big story on the news about the family they protested getting a $60,000.00 or more check because the funeral was protested for an hour? Talk about a BURN! I would imagine that they would go away rather quickly after that. I guess at that point the fund could be used as a way to help soldier’s families defray any costs associated with burial and tying up of the soldier’s affairs. Although there will always be some nutjobs around that think it’s cool to protest some poor grieving family.
Ok, I’ve laid out the idea. Does anyone here have any clue how to get this puppy off the ground?
wearyman on December 5, 2006 at 8:49 PM
Last I checked it was the Democratic Party and Al Gore.
RightWinged on December 5, 2006 at 10:17 PM
gee I hate that.
ok I’m lying.
daveintexas on December 5, 2006 at 10:41 PM
I was glad to see this post. I was having DeJa Voodoo when I finally got around to watching that clip of those crazy people running from the crowd. Seems to me like I saw it earlier than June. I did enjoy the interviews with the crazy woman. I missed those the first time around.
iNeXuS on December 6, 2006 at 4:15 AM
ReubenJCogburn has got this exactly right! I am a Southern Baptist and I can assure you that everything this group does is anathema to the Baptist Church, or any Christian church for that matter. Any group of people can call themselves a Baptist Church since there is no “copyright” on the term, so the real church can’t do anything about it. And these people seem to have an agenda, to malign all of Christendom. Maybe they are being paid to do exactly that. They travel all over the country to disrupt these funerals, which is totally despicable, but my point is … where do they get all the money? Don’t these people have jobs and families to attend to? So while I agree with ReubenJCogburn that they are most probably a cult, there is also a small possibility that they are a very media savvy anti-Christian group.
Maxx on December 6, 2006 at 9:04 PM
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