In the few states I have looked at you can correlate to conceal and carry statutes, but I never really took a gander at NYC. Never been in my big book of things to do or places to live.

Huh. I didn’t think to compare to those laws, but it might make an interesting academic paper.

An academic paper that would stand no chance of getting published, I should add.

Slublog on December 5, 2006 at 7:01 PM

Thanks for the data. Heh. Dinkins. I could not remember his name.

In the few states I have looked at you can correlate to conceal and carry statutes, but I never really took a gander at NYC. Never been in my big book of things to do or places to live.

The authors of Freakonomics attribute this to the passage of Roe v. Wade, leading to the birth of fewer potential criminals.

Makes you wonder when the libs will figure out you can’t run a socialist state when you are murdering your young.

On the other hand, makes you understand why the left and right want amnesty. The left needs the votes and the right needs the labor.

Between those 2 crusades, there won’t be a restaurant left in NYC in a year and a half and a new black market will open up not only for bootleg smokes, but for donuts, McDonalds “freedom” fries and KFC Original Recipe.

If we can’t have Rudy in the White House, could the Big Apple please dump Dr. Bloomberg?

I prefer to think it had to do with Hizzoner, but who knows?

Unfortunately, not as granular as needed, but Giuliani did not become mayor until 1994, if I recall (some one call me on this). From ‘90 to ‘95 it would appear that there is ~40% reduction in the crimes listed. So, did the entire reduction occur in ‘94-’95 timeframe? Or was Giuliani a benefactor from some other vector?

Hard to say. Being a geek, I pulled the violent crime statistics alone out and ran them through excel for the Dinkins years and the Guiliani years. This is what I got:

Dinkins Admin.
1989 203,042
1990 212,458
1991 210,184
1992 203,311
1993 195,352
Avg. 204,869

Guiliani Admin
1994 175,433
1995 152,683
1996 132,206
1997 124,890
1998 115,915
1999 107,147
2000 124,890
2001 98,022
Avg. 128,898

The most dramatic drops in the crime rate occurred during the years between 1996 and 2001, with a burp in 2000. That would suggest Guiliani’s policies had more to do with it, but then there’s the whole ‘correlation does not imply causation’ thing, so…

authoritarian narcissist — and we don’t need another one of those in the White House.

Right, that would eliminate: Mrs. Clinton, Messrs Gore, Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Obama. Don’t come back with “oh, not Edwards and Obama” – yes, indeedee – they are passive-agressive ‘screw-you-from-behind’ types of narcissists.

Prior to that, he was on a downward vector in terms of popularity in NYC for a lot of reasons. Foremost among them a pretty ugly personal life. — honora

I learned from the 90s that personal life doesn’t matter. Now, we’re lectured by the Left that it will. Not only you, honora. It has just begun: Rudy, Newt, whoever…

One asset R. Giuliani has is his talent for speaking. I look forward to the debates. Hopefully the format will change into something more meaningful, whereby they talk to each other and us, versus some stupid media rep. and in a limited 1-2 min. format.

You can pull the NYC crime stats here

Unfortunately, not as granular as needed, but Giuliani did not become mayor until 1994, if I recall (some one call me on this). From ’90 to ’95 it would appear that there is ~40% reduction in the crimes listed. So, did the entire reduction occur in ’94-’95 timeframe? Or was Giuliani a benefactor from some other vector?

I’m not a big Rudy fan, though there is no arguing with the positive effect he had on the city in terms of cleaning it up (in both senses). My problem with him is that 9/11 was the best thing that every happened to him, career-wise. Prior to that, he was on a downward vector in terms of popularity in NYC for a lot of reasons. Foremost among them a pretty ugly personal life. — honora

…scientific wild-a$$ guess: you liked Slippery William. He and the Dragon Lady are not exactly Ozzie and Harriet.

He gave the city much needed leadership. His “downward vector” came, I think, from some of the navel-gazing press in the city, and some of the seriously disfunctional city council and other notables in the wormy side of the Apple. Remember Mr. Barron? Probably not a Rudy fan.

Folks like order, but the job of leadership doesn’t often put you out front, waving the big banner, taking the troops over the top. Often, it’s filling potholes and worrying over precinct coverage. A big city is like spitting into a culture dish…you throw together all sorts of unrelated single-celled whatzits, hoping that the dish won’t explode and destroy the rest of the lab. Unnatural and unhygienic things happen.

9/11 was a pivotal event in American history. He did well on and after 9/11, and he was a maximum lame-duck while it all went down. They were supposed to hold the election which chose his replacement on 9/11. Lame duck makes good.

I didn’t leave the Democrats – the Democrats left me. — forest

…bingo!

Sigmund would have had to use reams of 11×14, legal sized, lined, paper before he would dare make a diagnosis.

And when he did, he’d discover that she had a deep-seeded lust for Rudy.

So when the police actually arrest law-violators, it constitutes a nazi state?

And Guiliani has some marital problems in his past. Conservative women will likely look towards another candidate.

Newt! Newt! Newt! Newt!

natesnake on December 5, 2006 at 4:33 PM

Let he who is without sin cast the first wife.

Newt! Newt! Newt! Newt!

Newt! Newt! Newt! Newt!