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Maliki to Bush: Al-Sadr, Mahdi army “not a big problem”

posted at 2:40 pm on November 30, 2006 by Allahpundit
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Check out the expressions on their respective faces in the photo that accompanies this article. Says it all.

A senior al-Maliki aide who attended Thursday’s talks said the Iraqi leader presented Bush a blueprint for the equipping and training of Iraqi security forces. The aide, who spoke anonymously because of the sensitive nature of the information, declined to give details of the plan.

Bush and Rice repeatedly probed al-Maliki on his plans to deal with the Mahdi Army militia loyal to anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, the aide said. The Iraqi prime minister was noncommittal.

“It is not a big problem and we will find a solution for it,” the official quoted al-Maliki as telling Bush.

Not a big problem? Buried in that ABC News article Bryan just blogged is this fun fact: according to U.S. officials, the Mahdi army contains upwards of 40,000 members. By way of comparison, GlobalSecurity.org estimates the number of fighters in Hezbollah at no more than 10K. Al-Sadr’s not just using military pressure, either. Having pulled his MPs out of parliament two days ago, he’s now allegedly trying to organize a bloc that would call for U.S. troops to begin withdrawing soon or, at the very least, to set a timetable.

Think of it his own little Reed-Levin plan.

No matter, says Maliki, who told Charlie Gibson earlier today that Iraqi troops would be fully ready to take on the world … six months from now.

The Democrats want Bush to appoint an envoy whose sole job would be to ride herd on Maliki re: cracking down on the militias. Normally I’m against added bureaucracy but that’s at least one way of turning up the pressure that doesn’t involve threatening to pull out. According to Bush, commenting at this morning’s joint presser in Amman, the problem with Maliki isn’t that he’s dragging his feet, it’s that — he’s too eager!

[W]hat I appreciate is his attitude. As opposed to saying, America, you go solve the problem, we have a Prime Minister who’s saying, stop holding me back, I want to solve the problem.

Bush had this to say, too, which was the only newsworthy bit from the entire session. He’s looking at you, Jim Baker:

So we’ll be in Iraq until the job is complete, at the request of a sovereign government elected by the people. I know there’s a lot ofspeculation that these reports in Washington mean there’s going to be some kind of graceful exit out of Iraq. We’re going to stay in Iraq to get the job done, so long as the government wants us there…

I am very worried, as should the world, about Iran’s desires to have a nuclear weapon and, therefore, will continue to work with the world to send a clear message to the Iranians, the Iranian government, that we will — they will become more isolated…

I have said that if they were to verifiably suspect their enrichment program, we would part of the EU3 plus Russia plus China discussions. They know how to get us to the table. The choice is theirs to make.

It’s not what Bush thinks is best or Baker thinks is best, though; as our friends on the left are constantly reminding us, it’s what the generals think that counts most. So what do the generals think?

Eh, maybe generals aren’t so important anyway.


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I think he is suggesting that Sadr isnt a problem not the Mahdi army.

Im sure Sadr has a few bullets with his name on it.

William Amos on November 30, 2006 at 2:44 PM

40,000 huh!! How many Brown and Black Shirts were there? Hummmm?

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on November 30, 2006 at 2:53 PM

Check out the expressions on their respective faces in the photo that accompanies this article. Says it all.

I don’t see it. Maliki looks like he might be hungry or something, and Bush looks like he just realized he locked his keys in his car or forgot his wallet at home. Eithe that or Maliki is hoping no one smells his fart, and Bush clearly does.

RightWinged on November 30, 2006 at 2:55 PM

It is finished…

CliffHanger on November 30, 2006 at 3:02 PM

Maliki said “Our policy is clear, it is to eradicate all militias from the country or to have them included in the political process.” ?????? Included in the political process???? Muqtada al-Sadr’s idea of the politcal process is agree with him, or get your head, your wife’s head, your children’s head, and your neighbor’s heads all cut OFF!!! Why is this guy still breathing? 40,000 supporters???? This Michael Foxtrot should have been turned into fertilizer years ago! American soldiers are dying, and this piece of intestinal blockage is holding press confrences????? When the History books write about this, I am sure our survivors will say. “No wonder they lost!”

PinkyBigglesworth on November 30, 2006 at 3:06 PM

This is why we won’t win! We could, but we won’t. Any leader, with any cajones, would have sent a SpecOps sniper team to take out Sadr long ago. Nope, we’ll PC our way around the edges and accomplish little.

MCPO Airdale on November 30, 2006 at 3:10 PM

Breathe
Relax
Aim
Squeeze

See? No problem!

Wander on November 30, 2006 at 3:19 PM

C’mon A B C probably got thier information from one of their Iraqi stringers, so using Muslim math 40k actually equals 4K.

LakeRuins on November 30, 2006 at 3:27 PM

I can’t help but think back to the time we had this SOB trapped and surrounded in the Mosque and evidently believed it would be offensive to Muslims to finish the job considering the location. This was right after they burned the bodies of American Marines and hung their remains from a bridge and danced and fired their guns in the air in what is now Sadr City.

And yes, MCPO, you are correct. This is why we won’t win. We are trying to simultaneously conduct a PR campaign and fight a military campaign. Those two don’t mix. Its one or the other. I must admit I prefer the military option in this case.

Zetterson on November 30, 2006 at 3:30 PM

The Democrats want Bush to appoint an envoy whose sole job would be to ride herd on Maliki

I’d like to nominate Jack Murtha, John Kerry, and Speaker Botox for that job.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on November 30, 2006 at 3:35 PM

It is not a big problem

Yeah, and the sun isn’t very hot.

natesnake on November 30, 2006 at 3:38 PM

Our Guys killed thousands of Mookie’s punkass little bitches a few years ago. Why did we stop? Why didn’t we finish the job, what, did somebody get ‘offended’ or something?

Tony737 on November 30, 2006 at 3:47 PM

Given al-Sadr did resign from the government, he is no longer “included in the political process,” and the alternative, according to al-Maliki, anyway, is “to eradicate” him and his militia. Perhaps that’s why al-Sadr, et al., are not a problem.

OK, I can hope, can’t I???

Aunt B on November 30, 2006 at 3:59 PM

“I can’t help but think back to the time we had this SOB trapped and surrounded in the Mosque and evidently believed it would be offensive to Muslims to finish the job considering the location.”

Zetterson on November 30, 2006 at 3:30 PM Nailed It!

And do you remember what they found when he left the Mosque? Hundreds of Iraqi citizens tortured and killed in the most barbaric way, that some witnesses to the scene could not believe the horrific sight. So much so, that it was quickly removed from all news sources and never mentioned again. Even today, while he stands on the international stage, not one single peep from ANYONE! The silence is deafening…….. included in the political process, my ass!

PinkyBigglesworth on November 30, 2006 at 4:22 PM

If it is not that big of a problem Malaki, then DEAL WITH IT.

DoctorDentons on November 30, 2006 at 4:26 PM

If it’s so easy to control Carnack al Sadr then what’s taken so long? Waiting for the American military to do it? Then we find out today that the Iraqi’s will be able to assume control by June of 2007. My, how events have miraculously changed for the better in Iraq.

thedecider on November 30, 2006 at 4:28 PM

Mahdi Army Strong.

Kid from Brooklyn on November 30, 2006 at 5:15 PM

MCPO Airdale,
Let’s not waste our Special Ops on this fecal matter. I say Daisy Cutters to the rescue. Collateral damage? Tough.
I keep hearing this bilge about “our footprint”. Did Patton worry about “our footprint”? He went through France and Germany like “crap through a goose”.
Oh, and in case anyone out there didn’t notice, WE WON THAT WAR!

mountainmanbob on November 30, 2006 at 5:37 PM

mountainmanbob – Either way. I just wish someone would take out this goon.

MCPO Airdale on November 30, 2006 at 6:18 PM

mountainmanbob – right on man.

A while back I was listening to some highly decorated Vietnam Vet in an interview and he had a great quote that I have never forgot. I’m paraphrasing, but it was something like, “We made some mistakes fighting the Vietnam war. For instance, what name should we have given to those Vietnamese villiagers who gave aid and comfort to the Vietcong gurilla fighters? Answer: Vietcong.”

And yeah, in case anyone out there didn’t notice, we didn’t win that war.

Zetterson on November 30, 2006 at 6:28 PM

Now I want to add that I am saddened by innocent Iraqi casualties but when it comes down to trading the lives of American soldiers in order to preserve the lives of innocent Iraqis that just doesn’t strike me as being a good trade.

Zetterson on November 30, 2006 at 6:45 PM

Maybe someone could slip Sadr some polonium-210. Does he like sushi? That, or a quick round to the head would work. The guy’s a terrorist. Why don’t we just get it over with?

CP on November 30, 2006 at 6:48 PM

CP,
Why don’t we just get it over with?
Because we are afraid to “ooooffffeennnnddddd” someone”. We may damage their self-esteem.
Send em all to HELL.

mountainmanbob on November 30, 2006 at 6:58 PM

I think the MOAB would be appropiate for Mr. Sadr and his goons.

Zorro on November 30, 2006 at 9:27 PM

The Iraq war is costing the US Taxpayer 176 million a day,
8 billion a month, 76 billion a year.
Give me 8 billion, and I would send home the US military…
hire a mercenary army….in two months the whole problem would be solved……….
And gas would be 1.00 a gallon.

LZVandy on December 1, 2006 at 9:17 AM

I agree, Al-Sadr isn’t a serious threat, certainly not the most serious threat.

I’m a military officer heading to Iraq in January, so I’ve studied the strategic aspects as much as time has allowed. Al-Sadr is an obstacle, but certainly not insurmountable. I question the 40K number, other estimates of the actual fighting force he could field have been much lower. A smaller number of regiments (~6) than those that took Fallujah could defeat him.

There are many threats to Iraq, the most serious being the propaganda damage done by an increasingly anti-military and anti-US media. It’s the most serious because it’s the only front we (the military) are not equipped to fight effectively. More optimistically, I think President Bush understands the media’s motivations, and won’t make military decisions based solely on public opinion. No, we’ve been winning in the Middle East for the past four years, and we have the advantage for at least the next two.

Jason on December 1, 2006 at 12:13 PM

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