Comments on: Saudi mouthpiece: If U.S. pulls out, we’re moving in

By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Mort Kondracke’s Plan B for Iraq: Ethnic cleansing by Shiites

Fri, 11 May 2007 16:37:02 +0000

[...] The irony is that it probably wouldn’t happen anyway. The Saudis aren’t going to sit by while Shiite fanatics run wild in a Sunni area; they’ve already promised as much through one of their mouthpieces. So what Kondracke’s really calling for, even if he doesn’t realize it, is a Saudi-Iranian proxy war (or actual war) with Iraqis in the middle. [...]

By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Saudis warn Bush they might move in if Iraq falls apart

Wed, 17 Jan 2007 02:40:27 +0000

[...] This was news a month and a half ago. Tonight it’s just confirmation. Saudi leaders are privately “deeply skeptical” that the government of Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki could implement the U.S. plan, the senior U.S. official said. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to NBC News’ Andrea Mitchell, who is traveling with Rice… [...]

By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Economist: Iran’s oil industry will collapse by 2015

Tue, 26 Dec 2006 20:18:45 +0000

[...] Then again, would the Saudis really let that happen? They’ve already threatened (through a mouthpiece) to double their oil production and bring Iran to its knees economically. Imagine it: a new regime in Tehran and a buck twenty-five a gallon at the pump. Sweet. [...]

By: “7.62mm Justice” » Iraq Survey Group, Scope Too Small

“7.62mm Justice” » Iraq Survey Group, Scope Too Small — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:13:43 +0000

[...] Unfortunately the only thing I have heard in the past few weeks that has make a lick of sense to me, appears to be been false, leaked, or is being downplayed by the Saudi’s. [...]

By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Surprise: Saudi citizens sending millions to Iraqi jihadis

Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:39:51 +0000

[...] And once we pull out, they’re coming in — a fact which Baker and company surely realize. And yet they still recommend substantial withdrawal. [...]

By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Iranian parliament votes to cut Ahmadinejad’s term short

Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:06:51 +0000

[...] Are the Iranians ready to try a “new approach”? They have nothing to fear from us but a lot to fear from the Saudis; in fact, the Kingdom is so worried about Iran that they’re allegedly preparing for the unthinkable. Without the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to demagogue the mullahs will lose some momentum, so maybe throwing “Mahdi” under the bus is a conciliatory gesture aimed at cooling things off before something crazy happens and peace breaks out somewhere. It’s still good cop/bad cop; it’s just that the bad cop they’ve got now is starting make everyone nervous. Even, perhaps, Russia. [...]

By: “7.62mm Justice” » No Magic From Iraq Survey Group

“7.62mm Justice” » No Magic From Iraq Survey Group — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:10:54 +0000

[...] Now if this is a simultaneous draw down of American troops, while a build up of troops from Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and the UAE happens… then perhaps this has potential. However as it stands now, it’s just an additional crap sandwich on top of the loaves of crap sandwiches we’ve already been served. [...]

By: EFG

EFG — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:39:59 +0000

ELF[G], I thought the Kurds (as any sort of independent entity) were considered a danger to Turkey?

Well, that depends on what you mean by they are considered a danger to Turkey. But yes, the Turks hate the idea of an independent Kurdistan in the area of Iraq.

By: B Moe

B Moe — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:08:56 +0000

I am wondering when the wise men in DC are going to think it might be a good idea to get serious about alternative energy/energy independence.

And leave foreign policy to the private sector, where it belongs.

By: Awilson

Awilson — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 15:36:02 +0000

The Saudis have to get involved at some point. Looking at a map of Shia vs. Sunni, the Saudis, being Sunnis, won’t let Iran (shia) be the dominant power in the area. The number of sunnis dwarf the number of shias in the world. Then you have the Persian aspect too. Not a lot of love there.

By: “7.62mm Justice” » Maliki Cancels On Bush

“7.62mm Justice” » Maliki Cancels On Bush — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 15:28:16 +0000

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By: NPP

NPP — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 15:28:03 +0000

Why do people seem to think that the only thing holding Maliki back from “dealing with” the militias is lack of will? The fundamental fact is the Iraqi security forces are not wholly loyal to the central government, so exactly how is Maliki supposed to reign in the militias? This whole affair seems to be setting Maliki and the Iraq government up to take the blame for failure in Iraq.

By: JustTruth101

JustTruth101 — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:37:20 +0000

Shining City Warrior wrote about this a couple of weeks ago…the winning strategy is 1.) Let the Sunni neighbors get the idea that nutjob/crazy Iran will get control of Iraq’s oil fields and Saudi/Kuwait/etc will step in, and 2) drill ANWR while simultaneously taking up Brazil’s offer to partner with them for USA to become energy independent within 10 years…WE WIN when terrorist’s economies are so starved so they can no longer afford to sponsor terrorism…it’s all laid out here: http://shiningcitywarrior.blogspot.com/2006/11/iraq-solution-1.html

By: honora

honora — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:09:56 +0000

Last to EFG, not ELF. I can’t keep this straight….

By: honora

honora — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:09:13 +0000

Saudis will defend Sunnis against the Shiite majority. ELF, I thought the Kurds (as any sort of independent entity) were considered a danger to Turkey?

I am wondering when the wise men in DC are going to think it might be a good idea to get serious about alternative energy/energy independence. Naaah, what’s the rush?

By: phineas g.

phineas g. — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:40:17 +0000

So I guess I’m the only one who got all hot an bothered by the thought of that sweet sweet crude being $20 a barrel again? I mean come on people. If that doesn’t get you excited nothing will. Evidently y’all don’t drive an Excursion so I’ll bring it a bit closer to home.

Think hot co-ed oil wrestling, like pudding wrestling, only dirtier.

Now the Saudi’s having their own militia might not be all that bad either. If I recall correctly aren’t quite a few of the princes uber-perverts? As in flying in strippers / playmates, listening to America’s top 40 and bringing in only the finest “Columbian Gold”. Now if the spreading of the Sex, Drugs and Rock ‘n Roll lifestyle won’t bring peace to the middle east I don’t know what will.

By: The Coalition to Preserve Civilization « Hidden Dragon

The Coalition to Preserve Civilization « Hidden Dragon — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:38:51 +0000

[...] Welcome Hot Air viewers! You need to get involved. [...]

By: laelaps

laelaps — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:27:47 +0000

Hmmm, I always have crackpot get-rich-quick schemes, but this one might damn well work, and serve a greater cause. What if hundreds and thousands of people set-up pro-Saudi foundations and just bled the beast. The beast would at least become confused about who to fund and who not. Just a thought. I, for one, would have no problem playing the two-faced liar to this beast.

By: Jaibones

Jaibones — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 06:31:49 +0000

I was helping my daughter pick out a topic for a history class presentation, and we looked at the fall of Saigon. I told it might be fun to show the little leftists in her class what it’s going to look like when the Dhimmicrats pull us out of Baghdad.

She could send them home in tears.

(What a fun Dad I am tonight. We talked about the Depression, Dresden, Hiroshima, the Red Scare, Korea, Jack and Bobby, Martin and Malcolm, the fall of Saigon, the Panthers and the Weather Underground. ELF, I should have gone with the scotch).

By: Catie96706

Catie96706 — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 06:29:53 +0000

Very interesting article. Echoing other sentiments-go for it!

By: EFG

EFG — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 06:24:09 +0000

Buzzy, the Kurds won't rule or fight to take over all of Iraq. But what they may end up fighting over is Kirkuk. There is a volitile mixture of Kurds, oil, and Arabs who were transplanted there by Saddam to help keep control of the oil fields there. If Iraq breaks up, the Kurds and the Iraqis are going to start fighting over control of the city of Kirkuk.

By: Buzzy

Buzzy — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 05:46:28 +0000

Fighting wars by proxy is all the rage these days, we should probably try it. I still favor giving the whole place to the Kurds and turning them loose.

By: Bill's Bites

Bill's Bites — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 05:32:54 +0000

Stepping Into Iraq…

Saudi mouthpiece: If U.S. pulls out, we’re moving inAllahpundit He calls himself an “adviser to the Saudi government,” but take a gander at this piece he somehow got published in NRO nine months after 9/11. May I quote?The Saudi government…

By: thedecider

thedecider — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 05:21:15 +0000

I don’t see the Saud’s plan as a bad thing. I didn’t see Bush 41′s special relationship with them as being, necessarily, a bad thing either. Of course the Saudi royal family is in power because of the U.S. Do they offer the best form of government for their people? No, definitely not. But in that part of the world, they aren’t the worst thing going either. Somehow, I wonder if dad didn’t pull some strings here, but really, I don’t care. The Dems are going to pull the troops out of Iraq one way or another. It doesn’t surprise me the Saudi royal family had a ‘plan B’ up their sleeve. They have their own interests to protect, and Iran, beckoning at their doorstep. I’m with the consensus of posters here: let them go at it.

By: techno_barbarian

techno_barbarian — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 04:19:27 +0000

Hmmmm… just finished reading the whole article. Didn’t know about the Saudi agreement with W not to meddle in Iraq.

And I don’t like that “couldn’t guarantee that the sunni forces from Saudi wouldn’t attack US forces”, one bit. And I don’t like the fact that folks like ITM would be caught in the middle of it.

Nothing’s ever easy, is it?