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Video: Carter blames Israel for failure of roadmap, denies he’s anti-Israel; Update: Carter says Shalit kidnapping “probably” a mistake

posted at 11:51 am on November 28, 2006 by Allahpundit
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As usual when the sage of Plains turns up on TV, it’s an embarrassment of outraged riches. Here you’ll find him bestowing the Carter seal of approval to James Baker and the “peace at any price” gang, lamenting that we haven’t made more of an effort to talk to those nice people who held Americans hostage for more than a year of his presidency, and deriding the fence built by Israel to keep out suicide bombers as an “imprisonment wall.” The punchline there? Earlier in the program he noted that Hamas hasn’t launched a suicide attack on Israel in almost two years.

The best part comes towards the end, though, where he mocks Alan Dershowitz as the only person who thinks he’s biased against, and then almost in the same breath claims that the Palestinians have fully embraced the terms of the roadmap while Israel has (almost) fully rejected them. To refresh your memory, here’s Phase I:

At the outset of Phase I:

* Palestinian leadership issues unequivocal statement reiterating Israel’s right to exist in peace and security and calling for an immediate and unconditional ceasefire to end armed activity and all acts of violence against Israelis anywhere. All official Palestinian institutions end incitement against Israel.

* Israeli leadership issues unequivocal statement affirming its commitment to the two-state vision of an independent, viable, sovereign Palestinian state living in peace and security alongside Israel, as expressed by President Bush, and calling for an immediate end to violence against Palestinians everywhere. All official Israeli institutions end incitement against Palestinians.

Flashback to two weeks ago: “Hamas: New government won’t recognize Israel.” As for incitement, go here, select “Palestinian Authority TV” from the list of stations and see for yourself.

The final segment adds a bit of mystery to all that’s come before. A caller wanted to know whether Jimmeh supports a one-state solution to the crisis, i.e., whether Israel should simply merge with the Palestinian territories and create a single nation of Jews and Arabs living side by side in minority. Carter says no, because then the Arabs would outnumber Jews. I don’t get it, though; what would be wrong with that?

Maybe Jimmy’s not as anti-Israel as we thought.

Here’s the full transcript. And here’s Dershowitz’s post at HuffPo attacking Carter’s new book.


I think if the United States won’t take that role on, then maybe the entire group of the so-called International Quartet, the United States, Russia, the United Nations, and the United — and the European Union — those four have written a road map which President Bush has endorsed enthusiastically. And if they can implement their terms — by the way, on which the Palestinians have accepted 100 percent and the Israelis have rejected almost entirely — if the road map terms are accepted, then we can have peace in the Middle East.

Update: Spruiell has the latest. Mmmmm, that’s good screencap!


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all you can do is shake your head in amazement…

Bob's Kid on November 28, 2006 at 11:55 AM

I wonder how much Hamas paid him to say that.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on November 28, 2006 at 11:55 AM

Somebody, Please . . . send that moron back to the peanut farm and keep him there.

rplat on November 28, 2006 at 11:56 AM

I miss the good old days (says the 25 year old) when ex-Presidents retired to some ranch, and stayed out of the political spotlight, especially ex-Presidents who were so mind-numbingly effective in their own foreign policy, like…say…Carter.

StoutRepublican on November 28, 2006 at 11:58 AM

Just HOW STUPID and antisemitic, and jihad-enabling and hard-on-ish for terror can one person be?

This idiot is SUCH A DISGRACE to your fine country. He has no shame. A pox on him! A Zionist Jewish Israeli Fatwa Upon Him! Long may he suffer!

WriterMom on November 28, 2006 at 11:58 AM

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i219/mazztek/screwUcarter.jpg

[IMG]http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i219/mazztek/screwUcarter.jpg[/IMG]

Mazztek on November 28, 2006 at 11:58 AM

You like him, dontcha, WriterMom? ;-)

Mazztek on November 28, 2006 at 11:59 AM

What an embarrassment. It’s to our great shame that this fool is a former POTUS.

Pablo on November 28, 2006 at 12:02 PM

IF there ever was a US President that could be called the American version of Neville Chamberlain its this guy.

I ake that back. Neville at the very end realized he had been duped by Hitler and took the blame for his mistakes.

Carter is more like a Vichy French leader.

William Amos on November 28, 2006 at 12:05 PM

Carter is a world citizen, concerned more about peace for all than he is about pushing an American agenda.

Instead of instinctively hissing and throwing stones, why not take a moment to think about what he is saying, and weigh the merits of his points.

GregH on November 28, 2006 at 12:09 PM

I watched for a few moments and turned the channel..I was waiting to see which one of those 2 clowns could hunch over the table the farthest…Do one of your photoshops and put Larry on that picture of Jimmy, and it is identical…

Pam on November 28, 2006 at 12:11 PM

Carter is a world citizen, concerned more about peace for all than he is about pushing an American agenda.

Instead of instinctively hissing and throwing stones, why not take a moment to think about what he is saying, and weigh the merits of his points.

GregH on November 28, 2006 at 12:09 PM

Wait I thought Carter brought peace to the middle east and that is why he got his nobel ?

You mean hes a fraud then ? Because there is no peace in the middle east.

William Amos on November 28, 2006 at 12:13 PM

Pablo

It is to MY shame that he is a Southerner.

james hooker on November 28, 2006 at 12:14 PM

It’s dementia, pure & simple.

His mind is gone.

Corky on November 28, 2006 at 12:15 PM

I miss the good old days (says the 25 year old) when ex-Presidents retired to some ranch, and stayed out of the political spotlight, especially ex-Presidents who were so mind-numbingly effective in their own foreign policy, like…say…Carter.

StoutRepublican on November 28, 2006 at 11:58 AM

This is a great idea.
Who is audience in the first place? He is making up his own reality. Good luck to those watching his propaganda.

Ouabam on November 28, 2006 at 12:16 PM

Instead of instinctively hissing and throwing stones, why not take a moment to think about what he is saying, and weigh the merits of his points.

What would happen if the Palestinians unilaterally quit fighting and threw their weapons into the sea today? Be honest with yourself when you answer.

Now imagine what would happen if Israel unilaterally disarmed and stopped fighting.

Which would be the more desirable outcome? Who is the obstacle to peace? Who are the oppressors?

How delusional is Carter going to have to get for his sycophants to realize he is insane?

B Moe on November 28, 2006 at 12:18 PM

I’m glad I wasn’t born when this bastard was elected because then I don’t have to explain this pimple on hte @$$ of history to anyone

Defector01 on November 28, 2006 at 12:22 PM

Hey…careful there Ouabam…it’s only propaganda if it’s on Fox…

CNN, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, ABC - those are where truth and hardhitting real news come from…so what Carter had to say is what the Liberals like to call, “Speaking Truth to Power”…

Sigh…

StoutRepublican on November 28, 2006 at 12:22 PM

PA has Murtha
CA has Pelosi
MN has Ellison
NY has Rangel
and unfortunately GA has Jammy
Everybody has a crazy aunt or uncle who you hope won’t show up at the family gatherings but what are ya gonna do?

LakeRuins on November 28, 2006 at 12:23 PM

Maybe he should go to the Israeli hospitals and see all the children without limbs.

jman on November 28, 2006 at 12:23 PM

Lets see… Carter:

Betrayed the shah of Iran to Islamic Extremists (aka terrorists) and setting the stage for our current state of affairs.

Betrayed his own diplomats by allowing those same terrorists to hold them hostage for over a year with no repurcussions.

Betrayed Israel to the likes of Arafat (a well known murderer) and company.

No, trusting and listening to the likes of Carter carries too high a price. Doesn’t he have enough blood on his hands?

CrazyFool on November 28, 2006 at 12:24 PM

Just FOAD already, Jimmy.

SicSemperTyrannus on November 28, 2006 at 12:28 PM

Heh an ACTUAL picture from the movie “Attack of the killer rabbits on Jimmy Carter !”

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/4742/untitledxg8.png

Where is the Holy Handgrenade of Plains when you need it ?

William Amos on November 28, 2006 at 12:29 PM

Did I hear Jimmy say that he is absolutely certain that Syria, Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas and the rest of our beloved brethren of the head-cutting persuasion will not wipe Israel off the map, or attack US or British citizens in their cities again? Is that what I heard him say so convincingly?

shaken on November 28, 2006 at 12:29 PM

carter who…???…the worst President in my lifetime…that’s over 60 years…who listens to this moron…???…

areseaoh on November 28, 2006 at 12:29 PM

I wish all we had was Pelosi.

We also have Boxer…and pretty much all of Hollywood. Our crazy aunts have prodcution companies.

StoutRepublican on November 28, 2006 at 12:29 PM

Greg H.

Instead of instinctively hissing and throwing stones, why not take a moment to think about what he is saying, and weigh the merits of his points.

Did that. His points have no merit.

Pablo on November 28, 2006 at 12:32 PM

Instead of instinctively hissing and throwing stones, why not take a moment to think about what he is saying, and weigh the merits of his points.

Hey, GregH. Haven’t seen you in these parts for awhile.

Carter is wrong on the facts, so any points he’s trying to make should take that into account. If he cannot bother himself to acknowledge the reality of the situation, then it’s understandable that people would accuse him of having an anti-Israel bias that blinds him to the problems with Hamas.

Sure he wants peace, but his blatant dishonesty about Hamas makes him a dishonest broker of information.

Slublog on November 28, 2006 at 12:33 PM

Peanut brain.

infidel on November 28, 2006 at 12:34 PM

If Carter praises Baker and Scowcroft - it is because they like him, are Jew haters.

Hilts on November 28, 2006 at 12:36 PM

Hey…careful there Ouabam…it’s only propaganda if it’s on Fox…

CNN, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, ABC - those are where truth and hardhitting real news come from…so what Carter had to say is what the Liberals like to call, “Speaking Truth to Power”…

Sigh…

StoutRepublican on November 28, 2006 at 12:22 PM

I forgot to follow the true teachings of the liberal god–the only god. Fox News is a propaganda. Thanks for reminding me. I almost lost track. There is an angel here.
****

Have any of you read the “Huffing power po“–a strong way of speaking to power–comments? They are ridukunlous. I congratulate the writer for correcting some historical inconsistencies.This is the left’s method: link every injustice to something that has a lasting on people’s mind even though it is incorrect or inconsistent.

Ouabam on November 28, 2006 at 12:38 PM

As a Jew, I find it appalling that we’re still voting heavily for Democrats — and that includes you, too, Dersh.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on November 28, 2006 at 12:40 PM

Carter and Clinton are proof positive that the best blood of the South was lost in the Civil War.

Hilts on November 28, 2006 at 12:41 PM

And they say Jimbo is supposed to be the smartest president we have ever had. I truly can’t think of anybody stupider than him. You would think he’d never show his face again after that joke of a presidency of his; but instead, he just keeps coming back for more.

Rick on November 28, 2006 at 12:42 PM

Carter is a world citizen, concerned more about peace for all than he is about pushing an American agenda.

Instead of instinctively hissing and throwing stones, why not take a moment to think about what he is saying, and weigh the merits of his points.

GregH on November 28, 2006 at 12:09 PM

Greg - I assume you just missed a word - survivors.
Carter is a world citizen, concerned more about peace for all survivors than he is about pushing an American agenda.

So the question becomes: Who are supposed to survive following his agenda?

News2Use on November 28, 2006 at 12:43 PM

GregH has spewed out those two famous liberal words: “world citizen” - in other words, anti-American.

Rick on November 28, 2006 at 12:48 PM

Instead of instinctively hissing and throwing stones, why not take a moment to think about what he is saying, and weigh the merits of his points.

But GregH, his points have been “weighed” and found wanting. Not just “wanting”, but completely, exactly wrong in every case. Carter is either ignorant or lying through his teeth. I’d prefer to think he’s a dottering old fool than a creepy old Nazi, but it’s getting tougher every time he opens his mouth.

Spiny Norman on November 28, 2006 at 12:49 PM

Carter blames Israel, denies he’s anti-Israel and Larry forgets he is a Jew…all the makings for some good interviews.

Pam on November 28, 2006 at 12:57 PM

Sorry, there aren’t any presidential horse-race threads on which to post this, so I’m posting it on the thread about the worst US president ever.

Newt link

I have been primarily considering Newt as my preference for ‘08, but in this article, he says we need to engage Iran and Syria. Without knowing exactly what he means, I am willing to acknowledge that I might be wrong. But otherwise, Newt may have lost me as a supporter. Et, tu Newt-é?

urbancenturion on November 28, 2006 at 12:57 PM

GregH has spewed out those two famous liberal words: “world citizen” - in other words, anti-American.

Rick it is very, very sad you equate being a world citizen with being anti-American…the two are not mutually exclusive except in your shallow, redneck brain. Let me guess, you like to brag that you don’t have a passport.

JaHerer22 on November 28, 2006 at 1:02 PM

I think if the United States won’t take that role on, then maybe the entire group of the so-called International Quartet, the United States, Russia, the United Nations, and the United — and the European Union — those four have written a road map which President Bush has endorsed enthusiastically. And if they can implement their terms — by the way, on which the Palestinians have accepted 100 percent

Did the Palestinians accept this 100% before or after they send suicide bombers into Israel? Or before or after they elected Hamas to represent them, which advocates the destruction of Israel? etc. etc.

asc85 on November 28, 2006 at 1:06 PM

GREGH, since everyone beat me to it, pablo word for word what I was going to say, why don’t YOU enlighten us?

What are the merits of Carters rhetoric here? Help us out, can you find ONE?
GREGH, look again at B Moe on November 28, 2006 at 12:18 PM and Crazyfool, and then help us out here.

shooter on November 28, 2006 at 1:08 PM

You MUST read the comments to Dershowitz’s post at Huffington. The barking is loud and continuous.

Clark1 on November 28, 2006 at 1:11 PM

Rick it is very, very sad you equate being a world citizen with being anti-American…the two are not mutually exclusive except in your shallow, redneck brain. Let me guess, you like to brag that you don’t have a passport.

Ad hominem as argument is rarely effective.

Perhaps you would like to define what you believe a world citizen to be rather than simply toss out tired stereotypes?

Slublog on November 28, 2006 at 1:12 PM

Is GregH your resident liberal apologist? Sorry, I don’t know all the posters here very well.

WriterMom on November 28, 2006 at 1:14 PM

Jimmy Carter saying that he’s worked more closely with you than with any Secretary of State since he left office…if I were Jim Baker, I’d have my lawyer fax him a threatening letter unless he issues a complete, grovelling retraction.

It being dismissed as “ridiculous” to discuss Alan Dershowitz’s criticisms is a sign to me that Mr. Carter has *NO* counter to Mr. Dershowitz’s points.

Carter’s *ONE* positive legacy was his “peace” deal between Egypt and Israel…a plan written on sand. It’s obviously long-gone now, and Jimmy is p*ssed. With that one thing gone, he’s left with “malaise”, the attack rabbit, high inflation/unemployment, and the whole inconvenient and unsightly Iran “thing”. Too bad, Jimmy.

Jimmy needs to listen to himself…and not in the self-fascinated way he’s been doing so far. He’s an apologist for murder, a partisan just as he accuses others of being. If this is a conflict where you have to choose sides — and, today, it is — it’s past time for him to reassess his choices.

Then again, except for the light and air he’s given by the press, to discomfort thinking Americans, his administration, his legacy (such as it is), and his future pronouncements are unerringly irrelevant.

Puritan1648 on November 28, 2006 at 1:15 PM

I have been primarily considering Newt as my preference for ‘08, but in this article, he says we need to engage Iran and Syria.

OT
I don’t know urban, after hearing him last night saying we need someone with the gumballs of General/President Washington attacking on Christmas eve/morning, I went back in his corner again. That IS what we need. Engage Syria? With force maybe.

shooter on November 28, 2006 at 1:20 PM

Carter is a world citizen, concerned more about peace for all than he is about pushing an American agenda.

Instead of instinctively hissing and throwing stones, why not take a moment to think about what he is saying, and weigh the merits of his points

Greg, the “merits” of Carter’s book are weighed by Dershowitz, and if I recall The American Thinker had an even earlier and excellent review of the book’s substance. I own the book and it’s just full of spin and even error–for just ONE example–regarding Barak’s generous land-for-peace offer rejected by Arafat, despite testimony from involved eyewitnesses (liberal ones like Clinton and Dennis Ross who wrote a book on it), Carter writes on p150: “THERE WAS NO CLEAR RESPONSE from Prime Minister Barak, but he later stated that Israel had twenty pages of reservations. President Arafat rejected the proposal.” I recommend to everyone to get the documentary Relentless (by HonestReporting) to get up to speed on the specifics of compliance/noncompliance with Oslo and peace process in general–maybe it’s available for download somewhere.

Barnabas on November 28, 2006 at 1:23 PM

You MUST read the comments to Dershowitz’s post at Huffington. The barking is loud and continuous.
Clark1

Its insane, and the few Jews (i imagine the few positive voices are) are being torn to ribbons by the libs who just buy the line that the israelis are evil. Sooner or later those Jews liberal zionists will either sell their soul to liberalism or jump to our side.

Defector01 on November 28, 2006 at 1:27 PM

“One of the worst cases of oppression that I know of now in the world.”–Jimmy Carter, quoted by Allahpundit

Oppressing people who hate you and want to kill you is usually an important part of surviving and living well. Moreover, merely oppressing them seems to be a dangerous half-measure.

Kralizec on November 28, 2006 at 1:28 PM

A little off subject, but that flashing MCCAIN 2008 add on all of today’s pages is giving me a migrane.

jman on November 28, 2006 at 1:33 PM

It’s to our great shame that this fool is a former POTUS. — Pablo

Carter is proof in two legs that you only need *ONE* bad president to mess your country up for — what’s it been? — thirty years and counting.

Remember that in 2008.

Puritan1648 on November 28, 2006 at 1:33 PM

Responses to the Dershowitz post are awash in anti-semitic nutbaggery, but this is my favorite post so far:

“It is sad that a man like Carter whose motivations we know, understand and can only applaud can be so viciously disparaged by someone who can only be called a foot soldier in this Jewish Juggernut.”

The Jewish Juggernaut! Sounds like a great name for a blog.

Clark1 on November 28, 2006 at 1:34 PM

“Rick it is very, very sad you equate being a world citizen with being anti-American…the two are not mutually exclusive except in your shallow, redneck brain. Let me guess, you like to brag that you don’t have a passport.

JaHerer22 on November 28, 2006 at 1:02 PM”

Well, as a lifelong Masshole (sorry folks have to come out of the closet in the interests of full disclosure) I have to agree with Rick. Those two terms are in fact mutually exclusive at least when applied to this very moment in time. The overwhealming interests of the nations around the world are directly contrary to that of the US with very few exceptions. Just look at the way the votes are cast at the UN. The US is quite often the exception with a different set of values and goals then the rest of the world. Therefore to be a “world Citizen” you must, by default, be taking positions contrary to US interests.

Zetterson on November 28, 2006 at 1:36 PM

Ad hominem as argument is rarely effective.

Unfortunately, it’s quite the contrary - especially when you have a dissenting point of view. It can be pretty effective in shutting somebody up.

I would proffer that the primary merit of his “rhetoric” rests in his ability to view the situation from a non-zionist stance. To see each person with inherrently the same value, regardless of their citizenship. His appeal that the US deal with the situation from a standpoint of universality, not from one of a favored status.

GregH on November 28, 2006 at 1:40 PM

Rick it is very, very sad you equate being a world citizen with being anti-American…the two are not mutually exclusive except in your shallow, redneck brain. Let me guess, you like to brag that you don’t have a passport. — JaHerer22

…maybe Rick, like me, has eyes to see and ears to hear with, and sees these “citizens of the world” so self-designated being the first to either question or outright thwart their own country to benefit what they consider to be a “higher calling”.

As Slublog points out, ad hominem attacks aren’t very effective. They in fact show that you *DON’T* have an argument.

…finally, speaking *AS* a “redneck” — a working-class son of working-class people for generations beyond the existence of this country as a nation, even having lived in a mobile home or two over the years — allow me to take issue with the “shallow” remark.

The problem with you Lefties is that you’re hateful, but you’re not honest. You don’t *REALLY* hate Mr. Bush. You really don’t hate Mr. Gingrich, Mr. Limbaugh, Mr. Hannity, or FoxNEWS. You hate *US*.

You hate your “redneck”, red-state, gun-owning, Bible “thumping”, supposedly in-bred, supposedly snake-handling, supposedly unsophisticated, supposedly under-cultured neighbors. Hate ‘em. Bloody-well *HATE* ‘em. It’s 1861, and you’re looking to march south and kick some secesh butt!

The problem is that you’re hating a straw man.

Those Bible “thumpers” point out that many on the Left have no or very, very slippery morals. The gun-owners among them rarely use those guns for anything more threatening than perforating milk bottles. The red-staters thwart your choice of candidates, but that’s sort of how democracy works.

The problem is, the “rednecks” are the majority. So sad.

For myself, I have two passports, but neither are current. I *HAVE* been overseas…lived overseas for a few years on two different occasions. I’m pretty shallow — I don’t rush out to buy the latest “summer novel” or popular band’s recordings. I like fiddle music. I don’t dress trendily. I read my Bible, although not nearly as often as I should…but I can’t remember ever thumping it.

So, lighten up on the rednecks. We’re people, too. They have a word for folks who hate other folks, speak disparagingly of them based upon their identification as a distinct group. The word is “bigot”.

I thought that the Left was against bigotry. I suppose that, in my unsophisticated, shallow way, I was wrong.

Puritan1648 on November 28, 2006 at 1:46 PM

Unfortunately, it’s quite the contrary - especially when you have a dissenting point of view. It can be pretty effective in shutting somebody up.

Whatever, moron. :-)

I would proffer that the primary merit of his “rhetoric” rests in his ability to view the situation from a non-zionist stance. To see each person with inherrently the same value, regardless of their citizenship. His appeal that the US deal with the situation from a standpoint of universality, not from one of a favored status.

I think his value as an impartial observer is harmed when he does not communicate the facts of a particular situation. It’s this statement - “by the way, on which the Palestinians have accepted 100 percent and the Israelis have rejected almost entirely” that harms his credibility more than any other, given how blatantly untrue it is.

Slublog on November 28, 2006 at 1:48 PM

Ad hominem as argument is rarely effective.

Unfortunately, it’s quite the contrary - especially when you have a dissenting point of view. It can be pretty effective in shutting somebody up.

Ah yes…the liberal way…the preference is to just shut someone up, as opposed to listening to the arguments, and discussing the merits or lack thereof. I never thought I’d hear someone say “Personal attacks, okay, as long as the person disagrees.”

Three cheers for the open-minded!

StoutRepublican on November 28, 2006 at 1:48 PM

I’m sorry, but Carter is such a jackass. Don’t blame me. I didn’t vote for him.

ahem on November 28, 2006 at 1:52 PM

Don’t blame me. I didn’t vote for him.

Neither did I.

Of course, I was four at the time.

Slublog on November 28, 2006 at 1:54 PM

Puritan, you have such a way with words. On behalf of a fellow Southerner (by birth and by the grace of God), thank you!

lan astaslem on November 28, 2006 at 1:56 PM

I would proffer that the primary merit of his “rhetoric” rests in his ability to view the situation from a non-zionist stance. To see each person with inherrently the same value, regardless of their citizenship. His appeal that the US deal with the situation from a standpoint of universality, not from one of a favored status.

GregH on November 28, 2006 at 1:40 PM

Would those equal citizens include the ones that strap on a suicide belt so that they can blow up themselves and as many innocent bystanders as possible?

What a bunch of drivel.

thirteen28 on November 28, 2006 at 2:01 PM

GregH

I would proffer that the primary merit of his “rhetoric” rests in his ability to view the situation from a non-zionist stance.

Me thinks you just outed yourself. Do you mean anything but what is good for the JOOOOOOOOOOS?

WriterMom on November 28, 2006 at 2:07 PM

Also, Hamas claimed responsibility for the Granny Bomber. So much for Carter’s Hamas hasn’t launched any attacks theory.

WriterMom on November 28, 2006 at 2:12 PM

On behalf of a fellow Southerner (by birth and by the grace of God), thank you! — lan astaslem

…The Almighty was not so gracious to me as to you in this case…I’m a southerner by fiat of government assignment — my wife and therefore the family were stationed down here in Texas about 8 years ago, and I’ve been stationed and trained throughout the South — and so I can’t honestly claim southern by birth.

Some of my family, back in the day (very early in the day), lived in Virginia and Kentucky, but more lived in New Jersey, Ohio, Nebraska, Nevada and California. We “went transcontinental” via Interstates 80 and 90, so to speak.

We’re more “westerners”, most of us living west of the Mississippi since just after the Recent Unpleasantness Between the States. Census records show ‘em in Nevada in the 1860’s. Some moved from Missouri about the same time from Indiana.

Still, this generation and the next are in the South to stay. As with any immigrant, it’s were your loyalties lie which defines who you are.

So, you’re welcome.

Rednecks aren’t especially southern, though. As Foxworthy, the source on all things red-of-neck, there’re rednecks ever’where.

…if your richest relative ivites you over to his house to take the wheels off of it — and if that house is in Maine, Oregon or Alabama — yoooooooooooooooooou might be a redneck….

Puritan1648 on November 28, 2006 at 2:12 PM

Ah yes…the liberal way…the preference is to just shut someone up, as opposed to listening to the arguments, and discussing the merits or lack thereof. I never thought I’d hear someone say “Personal attacks, okay, as long as the person disagrees.”

I’ve been saying this ad naseum, but it fits. They’re all monologue-sts, the left/dems/libs- S.P.’s..

Puritan, you have such a way with words.

So very true. I’m also dying to know the whole puritan 1648 thing. The 30 year war? Calvanism? Lutheran puritanism?

shooter on November 28, 2006 at 2:12 PM

Rick it is very, very sad you equate being a world citizen with being anti-American…the two are not mutually exclusive except in your shallow, redneck brain. Let me guess, you like to brag that you don’t have a passport.

JaHerer22 on November 28, 2006 at 1:02 PM

I thought conservatives were the “intolerant” ones?? In any event, you’ve got it all wrong - world citizen and anti-American are, as has been pointed out above so well by Puritan, mutually exclusive; second, if you are going to insult me, get it right - I think the proper term is “sellout” (being that I’m conservative and of Hispanic descent, but I like to think of myself as “AMERICAN”); lastly, I have a passport, have lived outside the US, and currently live and work in a large metropolitan area.

Are you baffled yet, JaHerer? Most liberals just can’t quite grasp all of that (especially the part about me agreeing with most of my “redneck” friends here on HotAir). Oh yeah, JaHerer, did you happen to notice that the boss-lady here at HotAir is not a “redneck” either??

Rick on November 28, 2006 at 2:17 PM

If he had stopped with Habitat for Humanity we’d all be better off.

conservativecaveman on November 28, 2006 at 2:18 PM

So very true. I’m also dying to know the whole puritan 1648 thing. The 30 year war? Calvanism? Lutheran puritanism?

…Westminster Standards (Confession, Larger/Shorter Catechisms/Book of Church Order).

The 30 Years War *DID* end in 1648, but that didn’t enter into my thinking.

I added the numbers, by the way, just in case there was another “puritan” on-board already.

You know how it is: you want to be “Cthulhu” because that’s so cool, and adds weight to your posts, but somebody’s beaten you to it…so, the blogging security software suggests “Cthulhu(string of random numbers)” which screws up the aesthetic for you. So, you end up as “tinybutt” or “LadyPixieMoonbeam” or “MorningHardon” or something with “-69″ in it, and that just isn’t who you *ARE*…you’re a “Cthulhu” if ever there was one….

…and, by the way, my second choice *WASN’T* going to be the “Morning…” one above…I was considering “BandwidthEater”….”-69″….

Puritan1648 on November 28, 2006 at 2:27 PM

When Carter won the Nobel Peace Prize, that caused winning the Prize to be equated to that scam where you get a star named after you.

JackM on November 28, 2006 at 2:29 PM

Rick it is very, very sad you equate being a world citizen with being anti-American…the two are not mutually exclusive except in your shallow, redneck brain. Let me guess, you like to brag that you don’t have a passport.

JaHerer22 on November 28, 2006 at 1:02 PM

The words of a condescending bigoted elitist fool.

I think what is actually shallow here is the content of your character.

infidel4life on November 28, 2006 at 2:30 PM

Are you baffled yet, JaHerer? …did you happen to notice that the boss-lady here at HotAir is not a “redneck” either?? — Rick

…don’t push it, Rick…his paradigms are already wobblin’…don’t want ‘em to tip over and shatter underfoot.

Is there such a thing as a “brownneck”? That’ll be the next big thing. Double bill: Carlos Mencia and Larry the Cable Guy…”Get ‘R’ done, Carnal!”

Puritan1648 on November 28, 2006 at 2:30 PM

What an embarrassment. It’s to our great shame that this fool is a former POTUS.

Pablo on November 28, 2006 at 12:02 PM

Another Pablo “ditto” for me. And might I add, Jimma, you’re a douche.

Jaibones on November 28, 2006 at 2:38 PM

So, lighten up on the rednecks. We’re people, too. They have a word for folks who hate other folks, speak disparagingly of them based upon their identification as a distinct group. The word is “bigot”.

I thought that the Left was against bigotry. I suppose that, in my unsophisticated, shallow way, I was wrong.

Ah, Puritan. Us Southerners and rednecks are the only group left in America that it is ok to hate on. It doesn’t worry me too much, though, since we’re also one of the last groups in America that exercises our right to keep and bear arms.

Barntender on November 28, 2006 at 2:38 PM

I wrote this on my myspace blog a while back this is a perfect time to repost it… Don’t worry it’s short. :)

know this happened a while back, but at work I do a lot of thinking about random stuff and so… I was thinking about some recent history and I thought it was ironic that former President Carter didnt get the Noble Peace Prize in the 70s as a snub to US power, and won it 30 years later for the same reason. I also find it sad that he didnt even notice. I was thinking about the former president as it now seems we are about to engage in the war that Iran declared against us 30 years ago. How much of what we face today could have been prevented if we had a strong President at that time. When Ayatollah Khomeini ran the Islamic revolution from France, As the Russians moved into Afghanistan. As Islamic radicals assassinated Egypts President Mohamed Anwar al-Sadat. Many of those assassins became the foundation of Al-Qaida as we know it today. This is largely the time when radical Islam became the threat we face today. When Regan pulled out of Beirut. When Clinton forced Israel to reward the PLO with virtual statehood. When North Korea was given a “we trust you” deal by Carter. When Saddam was bribing his way into massive palaces while his people were suffering under sanctions. All of these added to the strength of the enemy we face today. Too late to change any of this so we must learn from it.. Those who oppose peace will use the trust of those who seek peace to prepare, then turn on those who thought they had gained peace. A lesson we should have learned from WWII?

Gwillie on November 28, 2006 at 2:45 PM

I would proffer that the primary merit of his “rhetoric” rests in his ability to view the situation from a non-zionist stance.

GregH on November 28, 2006 at 1:40 PM

Oh yes, a non-zionist point of view. I suppose it’s easy to be “impartial” when you’ve been kissing cousins with Arafat.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on November 28, 2006 at 2:52 PM

Oh man, when King reads what Dershowitz wrote… that is priceless.

Carter is worse than a senile old fool… he’s a dangerous scumbag.

Free Kurdistan on November 28, 2006 at 2:52 PM

would proffer that the primary merit of his “rhetoric” rests in his ability to view the situation from a non-zionist stance.

From Wiki:
“Zionism is a political movement that supports a homeland for the Jewish people in the Land of Israel,…” and “Since the founding of the State of Israel, the term “Zionism” is generally considered to mean support for Israel as a Jewish nation state.”

So, Carter’s merit is his viewpoint that doesn’t support a homeland for the Jewish people in Israel? Or does he just not support Israel as a Jewish nation state?

I’m assuming you’re not using the Wikipedia definition of Zionist, but instead have a differnt one. Unless you really believe that his lack of support for a homeland for the Jewish people is his primary merit.

If thats his merit, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad must seem like a marvelous person. He’s quite against the Jewish people’s homeland of Israel, very “non-zionist” if you will. Syria also seems to be quite the home of a number of non-zionist thinkers… in fact, the Middle East has many non-zioist thinkers. Amazing that they don’t have more diplomatic success seeing as they mirror Carter’s “primary merit”.

So, aside from his lack of support for Israel, what other merits does Carter have?

If this is really his “primary merit”, then we’re actually in agreement. I think his dislike of Jews and Israel is the lesser of his failings; sorry, his “primary merit” as well.

gekkobear on November 28, 2006 at 2:58 PM

By the time King realizes that carterdumn insulted the Jews and that King is a Jew himself it will be tomorrow…

go figure…

areseaoh on November 28, 2006 at 2:59 PM

OK GregH…I took that moment to reflect on what Carter said and my conclusion is…Bite me.

DoctorDentons on November 28, 2006 at 3:03 PM

I blame Dick Nixon.

Unfortunately, we don’t have him to kick around any more. So let’s kick Jimmuh instead.

mojo on November 28, 2006 at 3:17 PM

His appeal that the US deal with the situation from a standpoint of universality, not from one of a favored status.

GregH on November 28, 2006 at 1:40 PM

standpoint of universality = Eurabia

Jimmah lusted in his heart, daydreamed with his brain and talked out of his ass.

fogw on November 28, 2006 at 3:17 PM

King: How did you get this rap of anti-Israel, then?

Carter: You mean from Dershowitz?

King: No, let’s put Dershowitz aside.

Carter: You’d have a hard time finding others that, uh, that think that.

This is no doubt true. Raise your hand if you think Carter is anti-Israel. I see no hands raised; he must be unbiased.

While it makes sense not to surround yourself with people who think you are crazy, if he is really so insulated that he is not aware of criticism (and refuses to address it when he is made aware), then that might explain his perspective and his belief that he is not biased.

The expected dignity of his former office places great weight behind his words. He is supposed to be eminently informed. Perhaps he makes some good points; I just wish he, and those who consider him to be unbiased and universal, would address criticisms based upon facts rather than broad assertions.

Kevin on November 28, 2006 at 3:18 PM

Perhaps he makes some good points

Kevin on November 28, 2006 at 3:18 PM

I’ve yet to hear him make one to date. In fact, I challenge all here to let us know of any good points made by Jimbo. JaHerer and GregH are disqualified for obvious reasons.

Rick on November 28, 2006 at 3:27 PM

I blame Dick Nixon.

Unfortunately, we don’t have him to kick around any more. So let’s kick Jimmuh instead. — mojo

…actually, right about now, Dick wouldn’t kick back. Inert former presidents are such woosies….

Puritan1648 on November 28, 2006 at 3:28 PM

w o r l d c i t i z e n

This term is a dead giveaway for a someone who seeks to blackmail America.

RushBaby on November 28, 2006 at 3:31 PM

Remember when that anti-war clown from the U.S. was in Turkey trying to get to Iraq, and when the Turks asked him what was his citizenship, he would only respond that he was a citizen of the world and the Turks kicked his dumbo ass out of the country?

That was funny.

JackM on November 28, 2006 at 3:39 PM

My very first vote was at the age of 18 and I cast the very first vote for Ronald Reagan and to throw this jerk out of office

William Amos on November 28, 2006 at 4:02 PM

w o r l d c i t i z e n

This term is a dead giveaway for a someone who seeks to blackmail America. — RushBaby

…actually, I think that it’s a tax dodge….

Puritan1648 on November 28, 2006 at 4:09 PM

actually, I think that it’s a tax dodge….

Puritan1648 on November 28, 2006 at 4:09 PM

I don’t know about that, Puritan. I think the lefties want global taxation (with the former United States being the top bracket).

Rick on November 28, 2006 at 4:23 PM

Is GregH your resident liberal apologist? Sorry, I don’t know all the posters here very well.

WriterMom on November 28, 2006 at 1:14 PM

Yes, he posts a comment to invoke, but does little to back up his posts. He is kind of like a little sister that wants to be noticed.

right2bright on November 28, 2006 at 4:24 PM

Shooter, it’s true that Newt can and will invoke Washington very effectively, and with those sentiments I fully agree. But how does one engage Syria and Iran (except with whithering rifle fire, mortar fire, air-power, etc.)? It sounds to me like he actually has some hope that the Iraq Study Group (or whatever it’s called) will have some meritorious proposition. It seems absurd to me that these realists (I say with a resigned chortle) have anything truly useful to offer.

urbancenturion on November 28, 2006 at 4:26 PM

Does anyone really listen to this pathetic communist thinking fool anymore?

Secondly, why is this joke of a person given air or print time? Any president that gave away the Panama Canal should be publically hung.

 

byteshredder on November 28, 2006 at 4:26 PM

send that moron back to the peanut farm and keep him there

His peanut farm went bankrupt under his management. All he is capable of running is his mouth.

Wade on November 28, 2006 at 4:35 PM

Lets see… Carter:

Betrayed the shah of Iran to Islamic Extremists (aka terrorists) and setting the stage for our current state of affairs.

Betrayed his own diplomats by allowing those same terrorists to hold them hostage for over a year with no repurcussions.

Betrayed Israel to the likes of Arafat (a well known murderer) and company.

No, trusting and listening to the likes of Carter carries too high a price. Doesn’t he have enough blood on his hands?

CrazyFool

Gave away the Panama Canal to the Chinese.

Humiliates the entire South.

Looks like a p*ssy in a sweater.

More anyone??…..

seejanemom on November 28, 2006 at 5:04 PM

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