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	<title>Comments on: Audio: Orson Scott Card on lefty fanatics and the coming American civil war</title>
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		<title>By: Gregor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did Hiraghm just deny that we&#039;ve ever had a civil war?

Next you&#039;ll be telling us there&#039;s no such thing as the Easter Bunny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did Hiraghm just deny that we&#8217;ve ever had a civil war?</p>
<p>Next you&#8217;ll be telling us there&#8217;s no such thing as the Easter Bunny.</p>
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		<title>By: Hiraghm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hiraghm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The nearest thing to a civil war in the U.S. was the War of Independnece. The Confederate War was a war with a free and independent country. If I can&#039;t quit my job without my employer forcing me back, that&#039;s slavery. If a sovereign State can&#039;t separate from the Union, that&#039;s likewise slavery. I know Republicans have always been hypocrites (just not as bad as democrats) but get it straight. There can be no &quot;civil war part deux&quot; until there&#039;s a civil war part une.

voiceofreason quoted why the formation of the Confederacy meant that the Confederacy was as legitimate nation as was the United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The nearest thing to a civil war in the U.S. was the War of Independnece. The Confederate War was a war with a free and independent country. If I can&#8217;t quit my job without my employer forcing me back, that&#8217;s slavery. If a sovereign State can&#8217;t separate from the Union, that&#8217;s likewise slavery. I know Republicans have always been hypocrites (just not as bad as democrats) but get it straight. There can be no &#8220;civil war part deux&#8221; until there&#8217;s a civil war part une.</p>
<p>voiceofreason quoted why the formation of the Confederacy meant that the Confederacy was as legitimate nation as was the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: shuzilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>shuzilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first Civil War came after a peaceful cessession was followed by Licoln&#039;s decision to unite the nation by force. Without such a strong-willed person presiding in an equally strong Executive branch, I can&#039;t see that happening again. Succession will mean good-by and that&#039;s all.

However, the not-so-up-on-politics majority of America &lt;em&gt;does&lt;/em&gt; hold strong opinions on the environment, global warming and the nothing-but-negative consequences they have been told will unfold. The environment has, like slavery, both moral and economic components. Americans &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; looking to the federal government to solve the problem. Most will expect that, naturally, people will have to be coerced into conforming with resulting environmental policy. I mean, we&#039;ve only got one planet, right? They do not understand that most environmental doom and gloom discussion is political in nature. 

Also consider that a big part of our national self-loathing is a collective guilt that comes from believing we are killing the planet.

Politicians, however, well understand that the citizen&#039;s perception of doom is more important than the reality of the situation. They will exploit this fear to get elected, making promises along the way. at some point, they will need more powers to &quot;solve&quot; the problem of saving the planet.

Our government, set up with limited power, is not able to &quot;solve&quot; the problem without additional powers to tell us what to do and when to do it and how much it will cost for the license. If that is allowed by us, then we will get to be the point where we will begin sliding into civil war. We can guess how the population will react based the divisions today, but I don&#039;t think we are there yet.

What individual freedom, what individual life can be valued above saving the planet? NONE. The path to dictatorial powers may begin with this motto. If only the majority of people understood what the founding fathers did: when empowering the state, it&#039;s more important to consider the potential ill than the potential good it can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first Civil War came after a peaceful cessession was followed by Licoln&#8217;s decision to unite the nation by force. Without such a strong-willed person presiding in an equally strong Executive branch, I can&#8217;t see that happening again. Succession will mean good-by and that&#8217;s all.</p>
<p>However, the not-so-up-on-politics majority of America <em>does</em> hold strong opinions on the environment, global warming and the nothing-but-negative consequences they have been told will unfold. The environment has, like slavery, both moral and economic components. Americans <em>are</em> looking to the federal government to solve the problem. Most will expect that, naturally, people will have to be coerced into conforming with resulting environmental policy. I mean, we&#8217;ve only got one planet, right? They do not understand that most environmental doom and gloom discussion is political in nature. </p>
<p>Also consider that a big part of our national self-loathing is a collective guilt that comes from believing we are killing the planet.</p>
<p>Politicians, however, well understand that the citizen&#8217;s perception of doom is more important than the reality of the situation. They will exploit this fear to get elected, making promises along the way. at some point, they will need more powers to &#8220;solve&#8221; the problem of saving the planet.</p>
<p>Our government, set up with limited power, is not able to &#8220;solve&#8221; the problem without additional powers to tell us what to do and when to do it and how much it will cost for the license. If that is allowed by us, then we will get to be the point where we will begin sliding into civil war. We can guess how the population will react based the divisions today, but I don&#8217;t think we are there yet.</p>
<p>What individual freedom, what individual life can be valued above saving the planet? NONE. The path to dictatorial powers may begin with this motto. If only the majority of people understood what the founding fathers did: when empowering the state, it&#8217;s more important to consider the potential ill than the potential good it can do.</p>
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		<title>By: infidel4life</title>
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		<dc:creator>infidel4life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;My question is, what will spark The War Between The States redux? Could it be our own “Palestinian” problem brewing in the southwest and spreading? Methinks so…

Aunt B on November 29, 2006 at 7:39 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
As a longtime resident of Southern California, I couldn&#039;t agree more. Revolution is a-brewin&#039;, enabled by liberal policies toward illegal immigrants. And these &#039;southwest Palestinians&#039; are anything but pacifists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My question is, what will spark The War Between The States redux? Could it be our own “Palestinian” problem brewing in the southwest and spreading? Methinks so…</p>
<p>Aunt B on November 29, 2006 at 7:39 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>As a longtime resident of Southern California, I couldn&#8217;t agree more. Revolution is a-brewin&#8217;, enabled by liberal policies toward illegal immigrants. And these &#8216;southwest Palestinians&#8217; are anything but pacifists.</p>
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		<title>By: NRA4Freedom</title>
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		<dc:creator>NRA4Freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If THIS doesn&#039;t spark new life in the anti 2nd amendment democrat crowd, nothing will.

Of course, we are talking about the kind of liberal lunatics who see nothing wrong with someone swearing thier oath to office on a Koran(the Muslim elected in MN), a book that clearly says that those who refuse to worship Islam need to be KILLED...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If THIS doesn&#8217;t spark new life in the anti 2nd amendment democrat crowd, nothing will.</p>
<p>Of course, we are talking about the kind of liberal lunatics who see nothing wrong with someone swearing thier oath to office on a Koran(the Muslim elected in MN), a book that clearly says that those who refuse to worship Islam need to be KILLED&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: voiceofreason</title>
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		<dc:creator>voiceofreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With poll after poll showing that 80% of Americans want less immigration, legal or illegal, and the government refusing the will of the people, we have the ingredients for Civil War fomentation.

We have a President and Congress that refuse to enforce the rule of law.  We have activist Judges legislating from the bench which effectively disenfranchises the American voter.  Both parties pander to their special interests by exporting jobs and giving the country away to foreignors both here and abroad.  The system isn&#039;t working for the average citizen anymore and that will be the cause of the next civil war.

Declaration of Independence:
&lt;blockquote&gt;That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, &lt;em&gt;it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it&lt;/em&gt;, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt; But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, &lt;em&gt;it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government&lt;/em&gt;, and to provide new Guards for their future security. &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With poll after poll showing that 80% of Americans want less immigration, legal or illegal, and the government refusing the will of the people, we have the ingredients for Civil War fomentation.</p>
<p>We have a President and Congress that refuse to enforce the rule of law.  We have activist Judges legislating from the bench which effectively disenfranchises the American voter.  Both parties pander to their special interests by exporting jobs and giving the country away to foreignors both here and abroad.  The system isn&#8217;t working for the average citizen anymore and that will be the cause of the next civil war.</p>
<p>Declaration of Independence:</p>
<blockquote><p>That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, <em>it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it</em>, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p> But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, <em>it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government</em>, and to provide new Guards for their future security. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Dave Shay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Shay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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I&#039;ll listen to the audio tonight to see what this is about, because I find the concept interesting.  I suspect a scenario like this won&#039;t play out that far in a large scale, though, because people are sheeple nowadays.

The idea of individual cities or counties &quot;succeeding&quot; isn&#039;t that far-fetched, though.  Just look at all of the places in the US that have proclaimed themselves as &quot;sanctuary cities&quot;.  On the other side of the spectrum, you&#039;ve go the Minutemen and that one county that&#039;s trying to clamp down on illegals.  Hmmmm, come to think of it, I suppose we&#039;re already having a civil war... just on a smaller and bloodless scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firefox + AdBlock + NoScript = YOU are in control of what ads you see.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll listen to the audio tonight to see what this is about, because I find the concept interesting.  I suspect a scenario like this won&#8217;t play out that far in a large scale, though, because people are sheeple nowadays.</p>
<p>The idea of individual cities or counties &#8220;succeeding&#8221; isn&#8217;t that far-fetched, though.  Just look at all of the places in the US that have proclaimed themselves as &#8220;sanctuary cities&#8221;.  On the other side of the spectrum, you&#8217;ve go the Minutemen and that one county that&#8217;s trying to clamp down on illegals.  Hmmmm, come to think of it, I suppose we&#8217;re already having a civil war&#8230; just on a smaller and bloodless scale.</p>
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		<title>By: seejanemom</title>
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		<dc:creator>seejanemom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Don’t underestimate their hatred. True, they are natural pacifists. But if their beloved pillars of leftist lunacy were at stake (abortion on demand, gay marriage, affirmative action, et al), they would fight and fight hard. 

mountainmanbob &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Is now the time I mention the Environmental Liberation Front (ELF) the eco-terrorist group who goes about bombing car dealerships and torching new subdivisions? 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thekidalog.com/seejanemom/2006/11/ignorance_costs.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Join me in the hills&lt;/a&gt;, Bob. I&#039;m done with the war of words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Don’t underestimate their hatred. True, they are natural pacifists. But if their beloved pillars of leftist lunacy were at stake (abortion on demand, gay marriage, affirmative action, et al), they would fight and fight hard. </p>
<p>mountainmanbob </p></blockquote>
<p>Is now the time I mention the Environmental Liberation Front (ELF) the eco-terrorist group who goes about bombing car dealerships and torching new subdivisions? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.thekidalog.com/seejanemom/2006/11/ignorance_costs.html" rel="nofollow">Join me in the hills</a>, Bob. I&#8217;m done with the war of words.</p>
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		<title>By: seejanemom</title>
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		<dc:creator>seejanemom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;My question is, what will spark The War Between The States redux? Could it be our own “Palestinian” problem brewing in the southwest and spreading? Methinks so… 

Aunt B&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;re getting it....keep thinking....

I was so inspired by this last night I &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thekidalog.com/seejanemom/2006/11/ignorance_costs.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blogged it for my daily.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My question is, what will spark The War Between The States redux? Could it be our own “Palestinian” problem brewing in the southwest and spreading? Methinks so… </p>
<p>Aunt B</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re getting it&#8230;.keep thinking&#8230;.</p>
<p>I was so inspired by this last night I <a href="http://www.thekidalog.com/seejanemom/2006/11/ignorance_costs.html" rel="nofollow">blogged it for my daily.</a></p>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;UPDATE&lt;/b&gt;: Thank you.  My seizures are beginning to dissipate even as I type thisssssssssssss (drat I think I&#039;m having a flashback)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>UPDATE</b>: Thank you.  My seizures are beginning to dissipate even as I type thisssssssssssss (drat I think I&#8217;m having a flashback)</p>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Glenn might know how to produce these podcasts. But I know how to sell ‘em.&lt;/i&gt;
Yup, we’re in awe. &lt;b&gt;Now impress us and FIX THE BLINKING MCCAIN AD&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Agree - the McCain ad is ruining your site.  Besides, I don&#039;t think the ad is working - some of us are ready to poke McCain&#039;s eyes out with sharp sticks.  

On a related note: In the meantime I&#039;m working around the problem by &quot;masking&quot; portions of your page by covering it with other windows on my desktop.  The good news is it covers up *ALL* the ads, not just the McCain &lt;i&gt;grand mal&lt;/i&gt;-athon.  Problem solved!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>Glenn might know how to produce these podcasts. But I know how to sell ‘em.</i><br />
Yup, we’re in awe. <b>Now impress us and FIX THE BLINKING MCCAIN AD</b></p></blockquote>
<p>Agree &#8211; the McCain ad is ruining your site.  Besides, I don&#8217;t think the ad is working &#8211; some of us are ready to poke McCain&#8217;s eyes out with sharp sticks.  </p>
<p>On a related note: In the meantime I&#8217;m working around the problem by &#8220;masking&#8221; portions of your page by covering it with other windows on my desktop.  The good news is it covers up *ALL* the ads, not just the McCain <i>grand mal</i>-athon.  Problem solved!</p>
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		<title>By: Puritan1648</title>
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		<dc:creator>Puritan1648</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Abolitionists weren’t “lefties”, they were Christians who used the Bible to back their claim that slavery was very unChristlike. -- Tony737&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hint:  it was the 19th Century.  *BOTH* sides used the Bible to justify their point of view.

Abolitionists also talked trash about the Bible for its portrayal and seeming approval of slavery, as there are points in both Testaments where you could cherrypick verses which came down on either side of the issue.  

For that matter, Garrison burned the Constitution at a 4th of July outing.

The abolitionist party was sort of a combination of both sides of today&#039;s abortion debate...but the people themselves were a *LOT* like the Blue staters today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Abolitionists weren’t “lefties”, they were Christians who used the Bible to back their claim that slavery was very unChristlike. &#8212; Tony737</p></blockquote>
<p>Hint:  it was the 19th Century.  *BOTH* sides used the Bible to justify their point of view.</p>
<p>Abolitionists also talked trash about the Bible for its portrayal and seeming approval of slavery, as there are points in both Testaments where you could cherrypick verses which came down on either side of the issue.  </p>
<p>For that matter, Garrison burned the Constitution at a 4th of July outing.</p>
<p>The abolitionist party was sort of a combination of both sides of today&#8217;s abortion debate&#8230;but the people themselves were a *LOT* like the Blue staters today.</p>
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		<title>By: mountainmanbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>mountainmanbob</dc:creator>
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		<description>If a fight did occur between liberal amerika and conservative AMERICA, you all would be surprised at how the blue staters would conduct such a war. The leftist blue state libs would be a formidable opponent because they perceive Christian, conservative patriotic AMERICANS as the real enemy. The libs truly hate conservatives. The left sees red state AMERICA as more of a threat than al Qaeda, the Taliban, etc. They think Bush worse than Bin Laden, Cheney worse than AmadinnerJacket, Halliburton worse than the Taliban, etc.
Don&#039;t underestimate their hatred. True, they are natural pacifists. But if their beloved pillars of leftist lunacy were at stake (abortion on demand, gay marriage, affirmative action, et al), they would fight and fight hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a fight did occur between liberal amerika and conservative AMERICA, you all would be surprised at how the blue staters would conduct such a war. The leftist blue state libs would be a formidable opponent because they perceive Christian, conservative patriotic AMERICANS as the real enemy. The libs truly hate conservatives. The left sees red state AMERICA as more of a threat than al Qaeda, the Taliban, etc. They think Bush worse than Bin Laden, Cheney worse than AmadinnerJacket, Halliburton worse than the Taliban, etc.<br />
Don&#8217;t underestimate their hatred. True, they are natural pacifists. But if their beloved pillars of leftist lunacy were at stake (abortion on demand, gay marriage, affirmative action, et al), they would fight and fight hard.</p>
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		<title>By: Aunt B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aunt B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My question is, what will spark The War Between The States redux?  Could it be our own “Palestinian” problem brewing in the southwest and spreading?  Methinks so…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question is, what will spark The War Between The States redux?  Could it be our own “Palestinian” problem brewing in the southwest and spreading?  Methinks so…</p>
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		<title>By: JackM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JackM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How could the Left ever prosecute a civil war when we have all the guns?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How could the Left ever prosecute a civil war when we have all the guns?</p>
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		<title>By: seejanemom</title>
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		<dc:creator>seejanemom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 10:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But in between parades, they’d empty out the prisons and pay their beloved criminals and gangbangers do their fighting for them. 

infidel4life&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Finally, somebody is starting to clue in. The widdle limp wrists will let the peasants do their fighting for them. And when they are all gone, they&#039;ll invite in the real enemy. 

Burqas for all my men!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But in between parades, they’d empty out the prisons and pay their beloved criminals and gangbangers do their fighting for them. </p>
<p>infidel4life</p></blockquote>
<p>Finally, somebody is starting to clue in. The widdle limp wrists will let the peasants do their fighting for them. And when they are all gone, they&#8217;ll invite in the real enemy. </p>
<p>Burqas for all my men!!!</p>
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		<title>By: infidel4life</title>
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		<dc:creator>infidel4life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The blue states would meet us with no more than a gay pride parade.&lt;/blockquote&gt;But in between parades, they&#039;d empty out the prisons and pay their beloved criminals and gangbangers do their fighting for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The blue states would meet us with no more than a gay pride parade.</p></blockquote>
<p>But in between parades, they&#8217;d empty out the prisons and pay their beloved criminals and gangbangers do their fighting for them.</p>
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		<title>By: elpresidente</title>
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		<dc:creator>elpresidente</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Blue states would pull a Hezbollah vs. Israel campaign, or preemptively surrender, continue terrorist bombings, and try to maximize world support through faked photos via Reuters and false reports of atrocities via AP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Blue states would pull a Hezbollah vs. Israel campaign, or preemptively surrender, continue terrorist bombings, and try to maximize world support through faked photos via Reuters and false reports of atrocities via AP.</p>
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		<title>By: TexasRainmaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>TexasRainmaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 06:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if a Civil War occured here again, it would last no more than 15 minutes.  After that, the Cut &amp; Run lefties would be outta here while the 70% of the military that votes Republican would be watching the unemployed hippies flee to Canada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if a Civil War occured here again, it would last no more than 15 minutes.  After that, the Cut &amp; Run lefties would be outta here while the 70% of the military that votes Republican would be watching the unemployed hippies flee to Canada.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 05:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The only reason it isn’t an actual war right now is because the sides aren’t using real bullets, just words.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The ONLY reason we&#039;re not currently battling it out is because we can&#039;t tell each other apart visually.  If liberals all had on blue jackets, and conservatives all had on red jackets ... it would get real ugly, real quick.

Anyone who doesn&#039;t believe that ... try putting an anti-liberal sticker on your car and see how long it takes before your car is vandalized.  

There is one other reason that major violence has not broken out.  Conservatives can&#039;t muster more than 50 people at a rally or protest, no matter how good the cause.  It&#039;s disgusting.  But I would predict that if you had 10,000 conservatives to match the 10,000 far-left marchers at any major rally ... it would be on and the police would have all they can handle.

People might just die.

How many conservatives would have stood by if the liberals had rioted after losing the last election?  I wonder if we&#039;d sit and watch them burn our cars and torch local businesses.  I believe that&#039;s what would have happened in some areas had they not won either of the houses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The only reason it isn’t an actual war right now is because the sides aren’t using real bullets, just words.</p></blockquote>
<p>The ONLY reason we&#8217;re not currently battling it out is because we can&#8217;t tell each other apart visually.  If liberals all had on blue jackets, and conservatives all had on red jackets &#8230; it would get real ugly, real quick.</p>
<p>Anyone who doesn&#8217;t believe that &#8230; try putting an anti-liberal sticker on your car and see how long it takes before your car is vandalized.  </p>
<p>There is one other reason that major violence has not broken out.  Conservatives can&#8217;t muster more than 50 people at a rally or protest, no matter how good the cause.  It&#8217;s disgusting.  But I would predict that if you had 10,000 conservatives to match the 10,000 far-left marchers at any major rally &#8230; it would be on and the police would have all they can handle.</p>
<p>People might just die.</p>
<p>How many conservatives would have stood by if the liberals had rioted after losing the last election?  I wonder if we&#8217;d sit and watch them burn our cars and torch local businesses.  I believe that&#8217;s what would have happened in some areas had they not won either of the houses.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony737</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony737</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 05:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abolitionists weren&#039;t &quot;lefties&quot;, they were Christians who used the Bible to back their claim that slavery was very unChristlike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abolitionists weren&#8217;t &#8220;lefties&#8221;, they were Christians who used the Bible to back their claim that slavery was very unChristlike.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony737</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony737</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 05:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better idea, all lefties move to Canada, all Canadian righties move down here ... and build a freakin&#039; wall on the southern boarder already!  

What about Reds (hate that, sounds commie) living in blue states and vise versa? Hey, I&#039;m from Jersey/Philly ... lemme tell ya&#039;s ...PEOPLE DO HAVE GUNS THERE! Blue state California has plenty of guns too ... they just can&#039;t hit anything &#039;cause they hold their guns all sideways. What about the Bloods and the Crips? Red and Blue squared.

Better yet, all North American libs move to Europe, all Europeans with balls enough to fight islamism move to the U.S. and Canada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better idea, all lefties move to Canada, all Canadian righties move down here &#8230; and build a freakin&#8217; wall on the southern boarder already!  </p>
<p>What about Reds (hate that, sounds commie) living in blue states and vise versa? Hey, I&#8217;m from Jersey/Philly &#8230; lemme tell ya&#8217;s &#8230;PEOPLE DO HAVE GUNS THERE! Blue state California has plenty of guns too &#8230; they just can&#8217;t hit anything &#8217;cause they hold their guns all sideways. What about the Bloods and the Crips? Red and Blue squared.</p>
<p>Better yet, all North American libs move to Europe, all Europeans with balls enough to fight islamism move to the U.S. and Canada.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Driscoll.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Driscoll.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 05:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Losing The Enlightenment...&lt;/strong&gt;

 In his podcast interview on The Glenn &amp; Helen Show (which yes, I tuned into largely because of this headline--thanks Allah!), Orson Scott Card said:What does being liberal have to do with opposing or supporting the war against terror?......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Losing The Enlightenment&#8230;</strong></p>
<p> In his podcast interview on The Glenn &amp; Helen Show (which yes, I tuned into largely because of this headline&#8211;thanks Allah!), Orson Scott Card said:What does being liberal have to do with opposing or supporting the war against terror?&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DaveS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 05:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lefties would be able to &quot;fight&quot;.  It would be a lot of molotov cocktails and AKs that never hit anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lefties would be able to &#8220;fight&#8221;.  It would be a lot of molotov cocktails and AKs that never hit anything.</p>
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		<title>By: gmoonster</title>
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		<dc:creator>gmoonster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 04:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To paraphrase Jefferson:

&lt;em&gt;&quot;The tree of liberty must be watered occasionally with the blood of tyrants and patriots.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Luckily, he hasn&#039;t been right.  Yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To paraphrase Jefferson:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;The tree of liberty must be watered occasionally with the blood of tyrants and patriots.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Luckily, he hasn&#8217;t been right.  Yet.</p>
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