Tasermania: 5 of 6 UC schools prohibit tasering of passive resisters

posted at 2:52 pm on November 22, 2006 by Allahpundit

Guess which one doesn’t.

Police officers on six UC campuses carry Taser guns, but UCLA appears to be alone in expressly allowing officers to stun not only violent suspects but those who are passively resisting their orders.

In interviews Tuesday, top officials at university police departments across the state stressed that officers should be given discretion when using Tasers but said they thought the weapons should be used primarily against suspects who posed a physical risk…

[Orville] King [of UC-San Diego] said that in his department, having a detained person call for others to join his resistance in itself may not be justification to use a Taser.

“If it was simply requesting or verbally inciting others, I’m not certain whether or not that would be appropriate use of a Taser,” King said. “There have to be other elements … kicking, jumping, fighting.”

Four other UC universities don’t use tasers at all.

Here’s the official UCLA policy. It does indeed clearly authorize zapping passive resisters, including ones in handcuffs. From the regulation:

301.24 PAIN COMPLIANCE TECHNIQUES
Pain compliance techniques may be very effective in controlling a passive or actively resisting individual…

And from the general order on taser use:

4) GENERAL
Although not absolutely prohibited, officers should give additional consideration to the unique circumstances involved prior to applying the Taser to any of the following individuals:

A) Pregnant females;
B) Elderly individuals or obvious juveniles;
C) Individuals who are handcuffed or otherwise restrained;…

6) CRITERIA FOR USE – DRIVE STUN
Authorized personnel may use a Taser in a drive stun capacity, as a pain compliance technique, in the following situations.

A) To eliminate physical resistance from an arrestee in accomplishing an arrest or physical search.
B) When a skirmish line is deployed and/or for pain compliance against passive resistors as allowed in UCLA Police Policy § 301.24 (Pain Compliance Techniques)…

There’s a (non-exhaustive) list of seven factors in the reg that the officer’s supposed to weigh when deciding whether to use the taser. Like any “totality of the circumstances” test, because it’s so variable it gives the reviewing authority legal cover to second-guess the primary actor for virtually any reason it wants. Look for the school administration to use it to discipline the cops here — and then to quietly rewrite its controversial policy.

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I’m shocked, SHOCKED I tell you… Sorry bad joke but I couldn’t resist.

Trooper on November 22, 2006 at 2:56 PM

Well, I’m sure the rest of them will start adopting a pro-taser policy as soon as possible. That was a lot of fun and just look at the publicity UCLA got.

Solid gold.

I’ve already started the paperwork for a new election to have a taser policy at the local high school, junior high, and elementary levels.

Lone Star on November 22, 2006 at 2:56 PM

I think they should institute it for motivation in high school PE classes.

Trooper on November 22, 2006 at 2:58 PM

You got it backasswards. Totality of the circumstances does not second guess the primary actor. I don’t think the other universities have suffered as much $$$ damage as UCLA from “passive resisters.” So, please, continue to taser their sorry little a$$es.

EF on November 22, 2006 at 3:01 PM

So law enforcement is defeated by people who stand there and do nothing. Drats! Foiled again!

lorien1973 on November 22, 2006 at 3:10 PM

according to the progressive propaganda model, the next time a taser is used under whatever circumstances (physical threat or no) the taser will be referred to as a “banned weapon” who’s lethality and cruelty is evident in the fact that it was “banned in california”.

jummy on November 22, 2006 at 3:10 PM

Odd move:

Also Tuesday, the lawyer Tabatabainejad hired last week, Stephen Yagman, said he was no longer representing the student.

Lawyer finds out client is a hot potato?

laelaps on November 22, 2006 at 3:11 PM

Lawyer finds out client is a hot potato?

probably something more like the activist network have taken the reighns of his representation and the nlg won’t work with non-nlg.

jummy on November 22, 2006 at 3:16 PM

test

Andy in Agoura Hills on November 22, 2006 at 3:18 PM

They should start requiring students to be tasered as a part of the entrance exam.
- Students would be well informed of the policy.
- It would decrease the university’s liability.
- When a student acts up, you wouldn’t have to use it, just show it to them again.

Forget the PS3, I’m standing in line to get me a taser, or at least a cattle-prod. The next time those New Age hippies come putting BS brochures on my door — ZZZZZTT!

Lone Star on November 22, 2006 at 3:18 PM

Lawyer finds out client is a hot potato?

Or, Tabatabainejadingalingadingdong found out Yagman is a Jooooooo!

EF on November 22, 2006 at 3:20 PM

Jesus man, good thing them things weren’t around when I was at university. I mean, I thought being a student gave you certain licence. The guy wasn’t threatening anyone, even if he was being a prat, and if you can’t be a prat at that age, when can you, at Bush’s?

THeDRiFTeR on November 22, 2006 at 3:50 PM

Oh, Jesus man yourself. They don’t want people there late at night that don’t belong there. Take a guess why. Go ahead.

EF on November 22, 2006 at 3:58 PM

THeDRiFTeR,

The guy wasn’t threatening anyone, even if he was being a prat,

And he’s lived to tell the tale, hasn’t he? No harm, no foul.

and if you can’t be a prat at that age, when can you, at Bush’s?

How old are you?

Pablo on November 22, 2006 at 4:00 PM

a prat?

….dunno what that means

Anyone notice an uptick of “situations” in which persons percieved to be of a Middle-Eastern persuasion have walked into “victomhood?” See: Six Imams NOT MEANING TO cause any consternation nontheless attracting worldwide media coverage portraying America and Americans as “intolerant.”

Intooooooooooolerant

hillbillyjim on November 22, 2006 at 4:01 PM

Much better that they should allow students to be raped and/or mugged instead of being shocked for not complying with the orders of a police officer.

As crazy as it sounds remember it makes sense in liberal land.

Benaiah on November 22, 2006 at 4:03 PM

P.S. Also see: Overly P.C. Americans eating it up with a spoon the size of a “freakin’” shovel.

Of course, I’m just a “Southern Cracker” character……

hillbillyjim on November 22, 2006 at 4:08 PM

Much better that they should allow students to be raped and/or mugged instead of being shocked for not complying with the orders of a police officer.

As crazy as it sounds remember it makes sense in liberal land.

Benaiah on November 22, 2006 at 4:03 PM

Makes perfect sense….if you’re a MOONBAT! Dead on, Benaiah.

hillbillyjim on November 22, 2006 at 4:09 PM

I may be the only one, but I see a pattern here–so-called Peaceful Muslims by some strange coincidence ending up being in the spotllght as a result of actions they HAD to know were going to be disruptive and controversial.

hillbillyjim on November 22, 2006 at 4:13 PM

I don’t think that yelling and whatnot was “peaceful”

SouthernGent on November 22, 2006 at 4:23 PM

I think they should institute it for motivation in high school PE classes.

Cattle prods are much more effective – if they are powerful enough….

Personally I think this incident (and the 6 Iman incident) were setups with the intent purpose of getting attention (and the ‘victimhood’ prize).

CrazyFool on November 22, 2006 at 4:29 PM

I don’t know about anyone else, but, if I were going into exam season like most of these students were, the kid being the extremely loud, obnoxious punk would have been lucky that the cops got him first.

When I go to the library, I’m looking for a quiet place to study. I’m not looking for some @ss that’s looking to make a political statement at the expense of the education that I’m paying tons of money for. I wouldn’t have been asking for a badge number. I would have been asking if they could muzzle the punk.

JadeNYU on November 22, 2006 at 5:49 PM

I don’t think that yelling and whatnot was “peaceful”

Think of it as passive-aggressive resistance.

Jim Treacher on November 22, 2006 at 5:58 PM

I think UCLA should engage in random tasing.

I mean, just to be fair.

JackM on November 22, 2006 at 6:49 PM

The student tried to start a riot, and encouraged other students in the library to become involved with the officers in some form as he kept shouting something similar to, “Am I the only one to be a martyr?”

That is why they tasered him, to get him to comply to their orders of standing up, so they could quickly move him out of the library before they had a mob on their hand with dozens of students attacking a handful of officers.

And if it had gotten to that point, lethal force would have been ordered and the “passively resisting” student would have gotten other students shot / killed.

They’re lucky he was tasered and moved out as quickly as possible without it escalating.

Enoxo on November 22, 2006 at 7:26 PM

The taser performed as it was designed. Bring an UNLAWFUL situation under control with a minimum threat of injury to the suspect, police officer and the people around them.
But once again…it was the suspect who started the situation…the officer who ended it.

SPIFF1669 on November 22, 2006 at 9:08 PM

The punk got exactly what he set out to get (just like the six “imams” in Minn.),; namely media attention. Now they’re all getting more of same, ad nauseum.

Next: investigations and recriminations, all of which will, by design, make easier the work of our enemies.

hillbillyjim on November 22, 2006 at 10:32 PM

The student tried to start a riot, and encouraged other students in the library to become involved with the officers in some form as he kept shouting something similar to, “Am I the only one to be a martyr?”

That is why they tasered him

Shouted, you say? It would be fairly easy to pick up exactly what he said in the video, then.

Care to point out where he said it?

MKR on November 23, 2006 at 9:45 AM

The silence is deafening.

MKR on November 23, 2006 at 11:14 PM

I say we use a fire hose on them, or sic dogs on them.

I was all for the British beating Ghandi, I mean if the guy isn’t doing anything how are the authorities supposed to know that he won’t do something eventually? That’s why we need to handcuff someone, beat them, and then figure out if they’re guilty or not. We’re living in a dangerous world!

Nonfactor on November 23, 2006 at 11:38 PM

The man was yelling for Christ’s sake! WHAT WERE THEY SUPPOSED TO DO!?

Nonfactor on November 23, 2006 at 11:40 PM