Video: Kramer versus Kramer

posted at 8:43 pm on November 21, 2006 by Allahpundit

If only. Explain something to me: how did a guy who called another guy “nigger” somehow end up as the sympathetic one in all this?

See also Wuzzadem, who’s using Richards as a bludgeon against (slightly) less conspicuous racists.

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first!

you’ve been dying to do that headline.

jummy on November 21, 2006 at 8:48 PM

…how did a guy who called another guy “nigger” somehow end up as the sympathetic one in all this?

liberal?

jummy on November 21, 2006 at 8:49 PM

pretty much sums it up.

if a republican said this; would anyone be on tv making excuses? probably not

lorien1973 on November 21, 2006 at 8:54 PM

My question is this: Who the hell cares?

zerodamage on November 21, 2006 at 8:57 PM

I personally think the guys career is over and we should all move on now….I actually thought his career was already over before this but anyway..

EnochCain on November 21, 2006 at 9:01 PM

Richards needs to take his Seinfeld royalty money and do penance using that money to fund organizations teaching about the destructiveness of racism. His quote on Letterman about “I don’t know what else to do” garners no sympathy here. If he was truly sorry and repentant, he would start making amends somewhere.

I will give him one bit of credit: He apologized straight out and without qualifiers. No, “I am sorry if I offended someone.” I give him that much.

Mallard T. Drake on November 21, 2006 at 9:01 PM

AP, Welcome to Hollywood. Where the women are women, and so are the men.

BacaDog on November 21, 2006 at 9:02 PM

Maybe, Richards should endenture himself into slavery for a few years. Maybe, that would help. [/eyeroll]

EF on November 21, 2006 at 9:18 PM

The Wuzzadem piece was priceless. I can actually visualize Matthews having that very discussion – with himself, as usual.

thedecider on November 21, 2006 at 9:27 PM

That evil Karl Rove wrote his material. He was pretending he was a Republican. It was a joke gone bad. Lenny Bruce Says that it would be ok. Richard can’t be a racist, he is a Democrat, he is from Hollywood.
He needs one of those monopoly cards that was promoted a few weeks ago.

right2bright on November 21, 2006 at 9:36 PM

This is a big, boring, non-story. Who gives a rat’s rump about anything Richards says anyway? Found “Seinfeld” boring and unfunny…was glad when it FINALLY went away, and now this?

tickleddragon on November 21, 2006 at 9:41 PM

Big deal over nothing. Move on.

Wade on November 21, 2006 at 9:49 PM

I remember seeing the “real Kramer” on Judge Judy…

It was pretty funny

Opinionnation on November 21, 2006 at 11:55 PM

I actually have a bit of sympathy for him. I seriously doubt he is racist. But sometimes when we are confronted with a prick who is trying to make us angry, we respond by reaching deep down and pulling out the most hurtful or offensive things we can find. Even kids do it–”you’re stupid”, or “you’re ugly” or whatever.

I agree with the “real Kramer”… he didn’t know how to handle the heckler, got mad, and lashed out.

To hear a masterful handling of a heckler, listen to Dane Cook’s Retaliation album…”The Chicken Sangwich, The Heckler, and the Kabbash”

DaveS on November 22, 2006 at 12:00 AM

Absolutely there is a double standard.

Leftists, liberals, democrats, free speech and freedom to make a total idiot of your self and all is forgiven, welcome back, you brave, courageous person you! You are a model for us all.

Blacks and Hispanics also have a moral superiority with no questions ask card, allowing racial slurs, violent attacks, the works, with no outrage or claims of racism, race mongering, etc. Physicall attack people who of these other groups, and verbally and via mob attack and spew vindictive statements, no problem! Moral superiority!

Conservatives, Christians, and Asians, Orientals, and Caucasians who are thought to be conservative, whatever, if you so much as look like you are being naughty, or if some leftist or liberal chooses to make a claim, no matter that it is false and has not basis in fact, your name will be dragged through the mud and you are toast!

William

William2006 on November 22, 2006 at 12:05 AM

This is a big, boring, non-story. Who gives a rat’s rump about anything Richards says anyway? Found “Seinfeld” boring and unfunny…was glad when it FINALLY went away, and now this?

tickleddragon on November 21, 2006 at 9:41 PM

I agree… I remember when Seinfeld had his first HBO comedy special… I am a HUGE fan of good comedy, nothing better than laughing myself sore, but I cannot remember spending more time watching something, waiting for “Teh Funny” than I did watching that drivel. Didn’t even giggle.

I am proud to say that I haven’t seen a single episode of “Seinfeld”, much less a complete commercial for that waste of time. What little I have seen was about as funny as the HBO show. How it got so over-rated as funny and went on as long as it did is beyond me.

As far as what anyone from that show has to say about anything, I am more concerned about how much toilet paper is left on the roll…

MOMinuteman on November 22, 2006 at 12:15 AM

…here is the low-point of a momentary story which won’t evaporate as it should: a grey-haired guy with a ball cap on backwards gets weigh in on the “N-word scandal of the decade” this week.

He looked so very spiffy…so very relevant.

Puritan1648 on November 22, 2006 at 12:22 AM

Trent Lott — Raaaaaacism!!!!

George Allen — Raaaaaacism!!!!

Michael Richards — Aw c’mon, let’s hear what he has to say.

hillbillyjim on November 22, 2006 at 12:26 AM

I am proud to say that I haven’t seen a single episode of “Seinfeld”, much less a complete commercial for that waste of time.

That’s quite the self-contradictory sentence.

I don’t like Seinfeld’s standup that much either, but I found the show to be one of the most brilliant sitcoms ever to air on television. How is it possible for someone to have never seen an episode of Seinfeld?!? You should watch a few.

Try The Reverse Peephole. That’s about as representative of the show as any episode can be. A million different plots, seemingly unrelated and all concerning the most mundane things, which converge at the last minute in one giant ironic ball.

DaveS on November 22, 2006 at 12:30 AM

How is it possible for someone to have never seen an episode of Seinfeld?!?

It’s quite possible. I have never seen an episode either and though I’m sure there are other black people who have watched the show, I, personally, don’t know of any. So Richards–and Jerry Seinfeld, Larry David and the other cast members–likely don’t have much to worry about in losing that audience as far as the DVD sales go.

However, black people weren’t the only ones offended by the Richards melt-down. And that fact is gratifying–one of the few about this episode of human frailty.

baldilocks on November 22, 2006 at 12:44 AM

…in the voice of a Southern Cracker

Uhhh. Hello? Anyone there? We here in the south take exception to that comment and would like an apology.
Once again it is a liberal throwing around racial epitaphs and projecting it on the good people of the south.
Yankee Bastage.

AngryHank on November 22, 2006 at 12:57 AM

However, black people weren’t the only ones offended by the Richards melt-down. And that fact is gratifying–one of the few about this episode of human frailty.

baldilocks on November 22, 2006 at 12:44 AM

It is indeed a good sign that, while not perfect yet, our society has come a long way. Unfortunately few recognize it, in politics and in society overall, regardless of race.

I’ve always liked your pen name baldilocks. Never knew until today that you are Black and it never made a difference, nor will it going forward. Thanks for sharing the Seinfeld inexperience. I’ve never seen one either. We won’t be banned from this board for this, I hope :)

Entelechy on November 22, 2006 at 1:03 AM

Explain something to me: how did a guy who called another guy “nigger” somehow end up as the sympathetic one in all this?

Imagine this – Seinfeld, the show that its’ creator (and star) once described as “a show about nothing”.

Now you have the answer – which makes about as much as the show may have – the same way that a show about “nothing” became one of the hit shows in America.

Which, unfortunately, does not say a lot about our collective taste in shows, art, etc.

Emmett J. on November 22, 2006 at 2:11 AM

Anyone else here grow up in the south?

My grandma’s best friends were black (Pass Christian, MS). I was babysat as a child by friends of the family who happened to be black.

I remember my Grandma saying sh1t like “Look at that uppity n1gger!” when driving down the street with my folks in Biloxi. It was CUTE, if you can believe it. A crotchety old woman spitting vile. But we all know who her friends were.

Did she hate black people? Heavens no – quite the opposite – even back then, in the late 60s there were WHITE people in the SOUTH that LOVED the NEGROS as much as they loved their own FAMILY.

OH LORD did I say NEGRO? SHAME on me. SHAME ON ME!!! Thank God I didn’t say AFRO-AMERICAN.

So Richards has issues. It doesn’t make him a racist.

/can’t believe how much I had to edit this post.

Ugly on November 22, 2006 at 3:41 AM

Yankee Bastage.

AngryHank on November 22, 2006 at 12:57 AM

Which invokes my fond memories of Johnny Dangerously. :)

Kevin on November 22, 2006 at 3:58 AM

He’s probably an anti-dentite also.

lowandslow on November 22, 2006 at 7:37 AM

Explain something to me: how did a guy who called another guy “nigger” somehow end up as the sympathetic one in all this?

Douchebaggitude is the new black addiction

uncontrollable impulse

disease.

Of course, this isn’t the first and it won’t be the last time you see the “Oh, poor me! The Devil made me do it!” card being played. The poor thing…

Pablo on November 22, 2006 at 9:17 AM

The real Kramer’s analysis is spot on.

Dealing with hecklers by humiliating them is a tool in the belt of every stand-up, because either you know how to deal with them, or you get out of the business. As you points out, what you don’t hear is the constant talking-during-the-act and heckling that Richards was putting up with to that point. Comics need to be in control of the stage, and dealing with the type who (usually drunk) get it into their heads that they’re funnier than you and they should be “part of the act” by interrupting you on stage, is a reality at every club in America.

Some of the best material a comic has is written, ahead of time, to shut those morons up.

Richards did not have anything in his tool belt, and did was doing a postmodern riff, a direct reference to Lenny Bruce’s famous bit on the word nigger, and taking power out of that word.

But he forgot that we live in a PC age, where certain taboos must never be violated lest someone gets their feelings hurt.

Lenny Bruce is rolling over in his grave, I guarantee you that. Richard Pryor too. Not because of Kramer either.

wordwarp on November 22, 2006 at 9:55 AM

The real Kramer’s analysis is spot on.

Dealing with hecklers by humiliating them is a tool in the belt of every stand-up, because either you know how to deal with them, or you get out of the business. As you points out, what you don’t hear is the constant talking-during-the-act and heckling that Richards was putting up with to that point. Comics need to be in control of the stage, and dealing with the type who (usually drunk) get it into their heads that they’re funnier than you and they should be “part of the act” by interrupting you on stage, is a reality at every club in America.

Some of the best material a comic has is written, ahead of time, to shut those morons up.

Richards did not have anything in his tool belt, and did was doing a postmodern riff, a direct reference to Lenny Bruce’s famous bit on the word, and taking power out of that word.

But he forgot that we live in a PC age, where certain taboos must never be violated lest someone gets their feelings hurt.

Lenny Bruce is rolling over in his grave, I guarantee you that. Richard Pryor too. Not because of Kramer either.

wordwarp on November 22, 2006 at 10:16 AM

that post above got rejected because it had the n-word in it originally — see, the thing is, if you can’t talk about the problem, the problem is not going to get better…

wordwarp on November 22, 2006 at 10:18 AM

oh, wait, it did eventually post — maybe after editorial review. My faith is Allah is restored. Forgive me for ever doubting the master…

wordwarp on November 22, 2006 at 10:20 AM

I just think it’s interesting how this is giving so many people a free moment to say the n-word at will.

When the Liberal named Michael Jackson said the k-word and offended Jews the word was not repeated openly and no such talk about a Lenny Bruce quote replacing the n-word with the k-word was mentioned.

Also lets see what happens when the f-word is dropped and gays are offended.

IndependentConserv on November 22, 2006 at 11:01 AM

Kramer vs. Karma.

Jim Treacher on November 22, 2006 at 2:23 PM

Richards did not have anything in his tool belt, and did was doing a postmodern riff, a direct reference to Lenny Bruce’s famous bit on the word, and taking power out of that word.

But he forgot that we live in a PC age, where certain taboos must never be violated lest someone gets their feelings hurt.

Lenny Bruce is rolling over in his grave, I guarantee you that. Richard Pryor too. Not because of Kramer either.

wordwarp on November 22, 2006 at 10:16 AM

Oh, so Richards was HELPING us by taking the “power” out of a word that no one but he himself was using on that occasion, huh? Puh-lease. And what about his nostalgic remembrances of a time when we would be strung upside down and have forks shoved up our asses? Was he removing the fear of a rectal exam? You closet racists on this site have really gotta check yourselves. How come Mel Gibson was just a friggin’ nutbag racist, but yet Richards “was trying a bit?” Doing something edgy? It’s funny how a lot of you people lose all human understanding when the issue is BLACK. Could it be that you secretly were glad he said it? I’ve long thought that whites have never really dealt with the root of their perversions. Yes, I said perversions, what else would you call a race of people that has tried to subjugate and humiliate EVERY SINGLE OTHER RACE IT HAS EVER COME IN CONTACT WITH? I think there’s a sickness in the white race that many have been able to overcome, thank God, but many still have to make that trip into self examination. How else can you explain a site where Mark Furhman is a revered figure?

Soothsayer on November 22, 2006 at 4:08 PM

So Richards has issues. It doesn’t make him a racist.

/can’t believe how much I had to edit this post.

Ugly on November 22, 2006 at 3:41 AM

Newsflash: your grandmother was a friggin’ racist and so are you. And if in your sick world a man that assaults people by calling them Niggers and hearkening back to a time when no Nigger would dare get in his face because of the whole, “fork in the ass” thing, is not a racist, you need your damned head examined. By the way,…racists burn in hell…sorry grandma.

Soothsayer on November 22, 2006 at 4:17 PM

I remember my Grandma saying sh1t like “Look at that uppity n1gger!” when driving down the street with my folks in Biloxi. It was CUTE, if you can believe it. A crotchety old woman spitting vile. But we all know who her friends were.

Racist slave owners actuall had sex with the slaves they were keeping. I would daresay that having sex with someone is a closer relationship, even in rape, than your racist grannies “friends”, yet in your world I fear that even a slaveowner wouldn’t be considered racist.

Soothsayer on November 22, 2006 at 4:21 PM

ALLAHP

I don’t know why u censored my other post, that idiot deserved it.Because ONLY AND IDIOT would think that his stupid assed grandmother calling people NIGGERS was frigging “CUTE”!

Soothsayer on November 22, 2006 at 4:25 PM

I don’t think Richards should be considered a sympathetic character,but I agree with wordwarp and the Kramer in the bit. I have been a professional musician, and with the adrenalin and intense focus your head can get in a weird place on stage, reality in the spotlight is different from reality in the crowd, especially for someone who jumps in and out of character. I really don’t know how to explain it. I don’t thing this is neccesarily convincing evidence the dude is a racist. I think his apology should suffice for now.

Other than the Allen incident, which to me was just stupidity, I have been a bit confused by the reaction to this, Gibson and some other recent incidents. Are there really so few people in the world who in a fit of anger and frustation lashed out at someone with words they didn’t really mean, just to try to hurt them?

B Moe on November 22, 2006 at 4:28 PM

I don’t know why u censored my other post, that idiot deserved it.Because ONLY AND IDIOT would think that his stupid assed grandmother calling people NIGGERS was frigging “CUTE”!

I haven’t censored any of your posts in this thread; they were lined up in the moderation queue waiting for me to approve. I did censor your post in the Rosie O’Donnell thread where you talked about “faggots” with shit on their hands, etc. Normally I’d have banned you outright for something like that, particularly since I warned you about it once before, but I know you’re going to scream “racism!” if/when I do finally end up banning you. So consider this your second and last warning.

Allahpundit on November 22, 2006 at 4:29 PM

don’t thing this is neccesarily convincing evidence the dude is a racist. I think his apology should suffice for now.

B Moe on November 22, 2006 at 4:28 PM

WHAT THE HELL WOULD HE HAVE TO DO FOR YOU TO CONSIDER HIM A FUCKING RACIST? ATTACK SOMEBODY? OWN SOMEONE? Where’s your bar, bro, cause it’s pretty damnded high! Racist high, if you ask me. I love how you racists claim to be able to read minds too. How the hell do you know that Richards “didn’t mean it” ? You’re nothing but a sh*tbag racist yourself.

Soothsayer on November 22, 2006 at 4:33 PM

So you can play a video where Kenny Kramer re-uses the word Nigger but the word F*ggot (notice I didn’t reprint it) is too much for you?

Soothsayer on November 22, 2006 at 4:35 PM

So you can play a video where Kenny Kramer re-uses the word Nigger but the word F*ggot (notice I didn’t reprint it) is too much for you?

It’s not the word, it’s the intent behind it that’s key. Kenny Kramer didn’t use it hatefully; Michael Richards did.

Allahpundit on November 22, 2006 at 4:44 PM

but I know you’re going to scream “racism!” if/when I do finally end up banning you.

Perhaps you have some negative preconceptions of either blacks or myself that you should deal with privately. A lot of shakey whites like to bitch about people who “scream” racism while remaining ignorant of the fact that most of those “screams” have been right. I mean, people my color have been “screaming’ racism for about FOUR HUNDRED YEARS. Was it “crying wolf” when we were slaves? No. But most whites still didn’t mind, right? How about during reconstruction? Were we just “making it up” then? Nope. But most whites still didn’t mind the racism and stil considered those who objected to be “uppity” and full of crap, right? How about good ole Jimmy Crow, were we just humming the wrong tune then? Nope. But most whites still were just fine, weren’t they? Actually the race pimp movement of people like Jesse and Al is relatively new on the landscape, if you consider that Martin Luther King might have actuallly had a point, that is. If you at least allow that, then you would have to conclude that WHITES have been “Poo-Pooing” and dismissing racism, for HUNDREDS OF YEARS while there was actually racism going on, right? Which IMHO would make them the least likely people to actually recognize it now, huh?

I sir, am NOT A RACE BAITER. I fight like a man. I know that some of the things I say are shocking, I get paid goo-gobs of money to write and manipulate emotions, my friend so “ain’t nothing I’m saying by accident”. If you want to ban me, certainly don’t fear that I would cry “racism”, i know what racism is and this would not constitute it in my mind.

Soothsayer on November 22, 2006 at 4:47 PM

A lot of shakey whites like to bitch about people who “scream” racism while remaining ignorant of the fact that most of those “screams” have been right.

I’m not accusing “people” of screaming racism, I’m accusing you specifically based on what you’ve said in this thread. E.g.,

I’ve long thought that whites have never really dealt with the root of their perversions. Yes, I said perversions, what else would you call a race of people that has tried to subjugate and humiliate EVERY SINGLE OTHER RACE IT HAS EVER COME IN CONTACT WITH? I think there’s a sickness in the white race that many have been able to overcome, thank God, but many still have to make that trip into self examination. How else can you explain a site where Mark Furhman is a revered figure?

Also: Mark Fuhrman is in no way a “revered figure” on this site. If some of our commenters revere him for whatever bizarre or nefarious reason, that’s their issue. Don’t confuse their opinions with that of site management.

Allahpundit on November 22, 2006 at 4:53 PM

WHAT THE HELL WOULD HE HAVE TO DO FOR YOU TO CONSIDER HIM A FUCKING RACIST? ATTACK SOMEBODY? OWN SOMEONE? Where’s your bar, bro, cause it’s pretty damnded high! Racist high, if you ask me. I love how you racists claim to be able to read minds too. How the hell do you know that Richards “didn’t mean it” ? You’re nothing but a sh*tbag racist yourself.

I don’t know that he didn’t mean it, just like you don’t know that he did. How can you be so sure he wasn’t just frustrated at lashing out at two jerks who happened to be black with the biggest stick he could think of at the time. We have no idea what went down before hand.

I sir, am NOT A RACE BAITER. I fight like a man. I know that some of the things I say are shocking, I get paid goo-gobs of money to write and manipulate emotions, my friend so “ain’t nothing I’m saying by accident”.

Whoever is paying you gobs of money to write is a friggin’ idiot, then, because all you are convincing me is you are a race-baiting prick. Screaming racist at anyone who disagrees with you is not fighting like a man where I am from, that is the tactic most feminists use, in fact.

B Moe on November 22, 2006 at 6:09 PM

Richards is a sick individual. His career is now officially over, he will never recover from this, and he shouldn’t. It wasn’t even the n-word that was the worst of it, it was the ease with which he said “fifty years ago…” what kind of sickness is that, to think that way? I don’t care how mad someone is, that is twisted…if that comes flying out of someon’s mouth, that is a troubled sick individual with deep-seated prejudice who has a serious problem. We should care about this story, and I’ll tell you why: because every time a person of a certain race does something wrong, a lot of people attribute what that one person did to all people of that same race, and it cuts across all lines…last night on Hannity & Colmes, for example, an African-American guest could not believe Hannity when Hannity said he really wasn’t prejudiced. A lot of white people are prejudiced, but not all, not every one. And the guest really, truly believed all white people were prejudiced, and he said so. A lot of African-Americans think all white people are prejudiced, but I can’t believe that every single African-American thinks that. There is a racial problem in our country that is a problem, and one things that feeds the problem is pretending it doesn’t exist. But NOT all people of a certain race are prejudiced toward another, and if people would start there, we’d have less racial tension…it wouldn’t solve everything (this is too complex of an issue to boil down to a couple of talking points) but it would really help if all people did what MLK advocated: judge by the content of the character not the color of the skin, and that goes for all people on all sides. African-Americans need to be held responsible for their prejudices toward whites, as well as vice-versa. Since not everyone will do that, people have to be held responsible for their own actions, not the actions of ancestors or other members of their race, and be personally responsible for what they do and say moving forward.

JustTruth101 on November 22, 2006 at 6:15 PM

I don’t know that he didn’t mean it, just like you don’t know that he did. How can you be so sure he wasn’t just frustrated at lashing out at two jerks who happened to be black with the biggest stick he could think of at the time. We have no idea what went down before hand.

Ummm. I DO KNOW that he meant it asshole because he SAID it and what’s more, he couldn’t HELP HIMSELF FROM SAYING IT, or stop himself once he started. You’re the only “prick” having a problem figuring out if people mean what the hell they say.

How does one judge what a man feels inside? Since none of us can read minds why don’t you judge this like you judge every other damned situation in your life? We assess what people mean by two things, what they say to us and what they do to us. Period. When your boss tells you to shape up or you’ll be fired, do you think to your stupid self, “he doesn’t really mean it?”. When your wife tells you that shriveled up thing you call a penis isn’t cutting it so she’s screwing the mailman, do you say, “What a kidder, I love this woman”? Funny how your racist ass wasn’t riding to Mel Gibson’s rescue, I guess he meant it, huh? Funny how ONLY when a black person has a case of a white person being an ass, do you want to delve into his fifteenth level of consciousness because, “you don’t know if he meant it”. Well, numbnuts, I DO know that he meant it because he said it and he said it with VIGOR. And he didn’t just say the word, he gave a graphic example of the treatment of blacks that he (and maybe you?) long for i.e, fork in ass.

Whoever is paying you gobs of money to write is a friggin’ idiot, then, because all you are convincing me is you are a race-baiting prick. Screaming racist at anyone who disagrees with you is not fighting like a man where I am from, that is the tactic most feminists use, in fact.

Funny how you don’t wonder if the “hate America first” crowd really “mean it” when they call our troops “babykillers”. Funny how you don’t wonder if John Kerry, “really meant it” when he called our troops uneducated morons. Funny how you don’t delve into the deeper meanings of any radical statements EXCEPT the one’s you AGREE WITH. Gotcha asswipe. I just wanted to see which racist sack of shit would object to Richards being called a racists sack and it was YOU. YOU WIN the racist asshole doorprize. ANYONE who hears the tirade that Michael unleashed and concludes that he is NOT a racist, is a fool. The only people I can think of who would be willing to give a turd like that the benefit of the doubt are OTHER RACISTS! Who’ve probably said and done things FAR WORSE! You know those white guys who pretend they’re against affirmative action for ‘policy” reasons but they really just hate blacks and wish nostalgically for things to be like they were when, how’d he put it? Oh, yeah, like when they used to “STRING US UPSIDE DOWN AND STICK FORKS IN OUR ASSES”! Yeah, that’s it, I remember now. How come when Ahmadinejad (sic) of Iran, says he wants to wipe out all Jews, you don’t come to his defense and be his punk assed psychiatrist? How come you don’t wonder, if HE meant it?
For your information dimwit, Michael Richards says it was HATE in his heart that made him express the things he did, he simply is naive about where that hate comes from. He doesn’t need a racial apologist piece of shit like you to go to bat for him.

Whoever is paying you gobs of money to write is a friggin’ idiot, then, because all you are convincing me is you are a race-baiting prick. Screaming racist at anyone who disagrees with you is not fighting like a man where I am from, that is the tactic most feminists use, in fact.

B Moe on November 22, 2006 at 6:09 PM

You’ve been paying me, dickless, everytime you go see a movie I either wrote or “script doctored”.

I would agree that someone who JUST called someone the N-word, once or twice, doesn’t necessarily have to be a racist, although you’d be swimming upstream to find altruism in his thoughts. BUT someone who calls you a nigger and then reminds you that they used to LYNCH YOU (string up with fork in ass), for “uppity” behavior, has lost the benefit of any doubt from most reasonable people. You still havent’ answered the aforementioned question, a favorite dodge of the stupid. The question remains, WHAT THE HELL WOULD HE HAVE TO DO FOR YOU TO CONSIDER HIM A FUCKING RACIST? ATTACK SOMEBODY? OWN SOMEONE?

Under your criteria there is nothing short of genocide that could get one to be considered a racist. Since we now have guns, Richards is unlikely to “own” any of us, since most racists are cowards who hide behind superior numbers and psuedonyms, Richards is unlikely to ” physically attack” anyone, so riddle me this batman, if a racist tirade which hearkens back to lynching, isn’t racist, what in your feeble brain, would be? If you want to see a racist apologist, look in the mirror, if you want to see a racist, look inwards and ask yourself this….What kind of person WOULD SEEK TO MITIGATE, the most hateful and hurtful diatribe that ANYONE has heard in recent memory? Only you baby, only you.

Soothsayer on November 22, 2006 at 9:32 PM

Also: Mark Fuhrman is in no way a “revered figure” on this site. If some of our commenters revere him for whatever bizarre or nefarious reason, that’s their issue. Don’t confuse their opinions with that of site management.

Allahpundit on November 22, 2006 at 4:53 PM

You are absolutely right AP and I in NO way was trying to imply that the site MANAGEMENT shared such views. I love and respect Michelle and would never think her capable of such. I was referring to the posters and should have made that plain. So I apologize for “conflating” even though it was unintentional.

Soothsayer on November 22, 2006 at 9:35 PM

Newsflash: your grandmother was a friggin’ racist and so are you.

Soothsayer on November 22, 2006 at 4:17 PM

Wrong on both counts. But I’ll give you a C+ for effort, ass.

Ugly on November 23, 2006 at 3:04 AM