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posted at 8:07 am on November 21, 2006 by Bryan
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Day 2: Suicide Killers
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I think I’ll stay in my sleepy southern hometown and hide. For life.

To quote another hotairhead, when is somebody going to DO something?

seejanemom on November 21, 2006 at 8:30 AM

Somebody is doing something. take the pressure off in Iraq and your sleepy little southern hometown may no longer be a safe place to hide.

conservativecaveman on November 21, 2006 at 8:34 AM

I TOTALLY AGREE. I’m sorry, what I meant was when is someone going to stuff a SOCK IN THE LIBERAL MEDIA MACHINE.
My Hunky Hub just got back from over ther “doing” someting…but its still not enough.

seejanemom on November 21, 2006 at 8:38 AM

I don’t think Hollywood could create a scarier movie than this one, because unlike Freddy or Jason or the Ring girl….this movie is about real murderers, real death…and real horror. I don’t want to see this movie…but I feel I HAVE to. As Michelle says, “Know your enemy”.

seejanemom, please give my thanks and appreciation to your husband for the work he’s done for all of us. He’s one among the many true heroes we have in this world.

DakRoland on November 21, 2006 at 8:57 AM

I don’t think Hollywood could create a scarier movie than this one, because unlike Freddy or Jason or the Ring girl….this movie is about real murderers, real death…and real horror…

…that could happen anytime, anywhere.

infidel4life on November 21, 2006 at 9:33 AM

Ya, that scared the crap out of me and I’ve already been there once fighting these guys.

I’ve seen a lot of that aftermath with body parts, meat, charred skeletons etc, but the most frightening scene to me . . . the cafe at the end. Totally unexpecting, and then, an explosion from outside.

thomashton on November 21, 2006 at 10:30 AM

Quite disturbing. My dislike of the MSM just went up a notch.

ricleo2 on November 21, 2006 at 10:38 AM

Somebody is doing something. take the pressure off in Iraq and your sleepy little southern hometown may no longer be a safe place to hide.
conservativecaveman on November 21, 2006 at 8:34 AM

How very true conservativecaveman. The Islamofacist will continue to seek the destruction of those who do not believe as they do after the United States has eventually withdrawn from Iraq. Iraq is a lightening rod for their efforts right now – efforts that will go somewhere else when withdrawl takes place.

omegaram on November 21, 2006 at 10:39 AM

My Hunky Hub just got back from over ther “doing” someting…but its still not enough.

It helps but it’s not even close to being enough.

Be sure to tell your husband we appreciate his service to our country!

CliffHanger on November 21, 2006 at 10:39 AM

Golda Meir said, “There will be peace only when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us.”

locomotivebreath1901 on November 21, 2006 at 11:40 AM

Hey, can you guys adjust your audio levels down? every time the video starts, it blows out my eardrums.

Realist Citizen on November 21, 2006 at 11:48 AM

Meir spoke of the essential element in this issue; that as long as they delude themselves with the rightness of their cause, that as long as they brainwash their children and each other of the nobility of these acts, we cannot hope to stop them.

You cannot stop someone from doing the most abominable act if they believe it is just.

Another front on this war on terror is how to get them out of this mindset. They will reject education or debate from westerners, but perhaps from some people they respect? I can’t imagine who, but I am certain that change must come from within them.

Texan on November 21, 2006 at 11:54 AM

What a scary film….

“I dont want fun in this life.. I only want to please Allah”… In that case Allah is one sick puppy who takes pleasure in the misery of others.

Willing to sacrifice all your children, men, and women for a demented ‘god’. Islam is one sick sick sick cult which still practices human sacrifices.

Sorry but My God wants me to enjoy life today… and in the afterlife. I guess that’s the difference between a God who loves you and a ‘god’ who loves to torment you…..

CrazyFool on November 21, 2006 at 11:58 AM

Golda Meir said, “There will be peace only when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us.”

locomotivebreath1901 on November 21, 2006 at 11:40 AM

A very revealing statement.
I guess they did not deny the legend of the 72 virgins. So, they are interested in sexual orgies. These guys need Freud to discuss their sexual needs. Pierre is right. The media should stop lying.

Ouabam on November 21, 2006 at 12:19 PM

Here is my post re Spencer and Lekovic:

From what little I have read, there are basically three threads in modern Islam today:

1.Conservative Scholars (most Wahhabi)don’t know where they are;

2.Saudi Establishment Clerics who frequently disagree with the Jahadis and threaten their ideology and are supported by the House of Saud;

3.Jihadi Theorists who follow Sayyid Qutb who wrote “Milestones” (similar to Mein Kampf); Palestinian theorist, al-Maqdlsi, a cleric from Jordan; Abd Allah Azzam the organizer in Afghanistan.

What does this all mean? If you all would take the time to read Martin Amis’ “Horrorism”..it is very long, and has the typical securlar slant and a small rant against religion, you can begin to understand what we are up against. You can find the Essay at The Observer, UK and it is worth reading every word. We should replace the word jihadi with QUTBISTS.

Under Qutbism, there is absolutely no negotiation or moderation possible. They want the world under Sharia Law and they are the ones in the forefront.

I would also bet 99% of the Muslims don’t even know or could begin to understand what it is they are trully raging against. They have no idea what it is they are advocating, including Edina. If only 50% of the Muslim population on the planet could stand up and decry the terrorists we might get somewhere, possibly. But, I doubt it. Torture and death not only to oneself but to one’s entire family is too horrorific for them to contemplate.

sharinlite on November 21, 2006 at 12:58 PM

I guess they did not deny the legend of the 72 virgins.

Is that really heaven? Except for one week of the month and it’s hello!

Kini on November 21, 2006 at 2:19 PM

We have to get it through our thick skulls that this war is about a Relgious View point (Islam) lashing out at an entire culture (Western Civilization).

This is not about East vs. West. This is not about Islam vs. Christianity. This is about Sharia Law vs. Constitutional Democracy. This is about a religion running head-long against an incompatible civilization. Or.. from our point of view… civilization against an incompatible religion.

Lawrence on November 21, 2006 at 3:41 PM

“I don’t want a fun life on earth.”

and

“We are ready to sacrifice all our children.”

If these two quotes don’t get our attention… we’re done for. We might as well just give up now and voluntarily put our heads on the chopping block for them.

Lawrence on November 21, 2006 at 3:49 PM

Oooooohhhhh…my…..well, that just underscores what we (US and the free world, what’s left of it) are up against. The MSM can’t be that blind…or are they? By choice or by inside bias from some “backing group” that wants the truth hidden from the world? Like it has been pointed out many times by many others, it’s most difficult to fight an enemy that has no address, and has no uniform and has no fear of dying and has a huge supply of those like him who don’t fear dying. They die, there’s countless thousands to step in and take his place…not sure what to say from here…there has to be an answer. Obviously, the Democratic Party has no answers. Never has. We have Jimmuh and Bill and their ineptness in office to thank for our current troubles. Our soldiers and those of our allies have given so much already. Only God knows the answer. But are we REALLY listening…

Roger Brown on November 21, 2006 at 7:04 PM

You cannot stop someone from doing the most abominable act if they believe it is just.

What I find interesting, Texan, is how much this also applies to the leftists in this country. They have no compunction about engaging in any sort of reprehensible behavior to get what they want–in elections, in political dialog, in journalistic dialog, in academia, etc. The terrorists are truly their soulmates.

urbancenturion on November 21, 2006 at 7:33 PM

Oh, give them 72 Rosie O’Donnells or Janet Renos and they will clean up their act in a hurry.

Hmm. Can anybody do a rogues gallery of the 72 liberal females the Prophet will introduce them to? Good PSYOP potential in that one.

Oilpatcher on November 21, 2006 at 8:55 PM

No, I am not joking. You really could throw a monkey wrench into their mentality with Rosie, Janet, Hilary, Maxine etc. etc. etc.

Oilpatcher on November 21, 2006 at 8:58 PM

Only way to stop them if we stop our business people from going to their country and opening up businesses over seas and stop them from coming here…common sense is somethingthat’s needed at the gate before they try coming in …If your religion is not like theirs then you are screwed because they are coming after you and yours, thanks democrats i’m so glad you love other countries than your own….I’m ready for them because my family comes first and I don’t need no stink government help….

alyce on November 21, 2006 at 9:15 PM

Oh, give them 72 Rosie O’Donnells or Janet Renos and they will clean up their act in a hurry.

Hmm. Can anybody do a rogues gallery of the 72 liberal females the Prophet will introduce them to? Good PSYOP potential in that one.

Oilpatcher on November 21, 2006 at 8:55 PM

Oilpatcher you sure know how to conjure the images of a real nightmare – 72 Rosie O’Donnells – (Shudder, grimace, Oh Yuchhhhhhhhhh!)! You should be a horror film writer with images like that (I may not get a good nights sleep for a week with that nightmare in the background …..)

omegaram on November 21, 2006 at 9:44 PM

There was a religious angle to the ‘divine wind’ Kamakaze pilots of WW2 Japan. The Emporer was descended from the Gods. Shinto religion as practiced within the military of the time, was a motive to the warrior culture.

That is why unconditional surrender was required.

You have to humiliate and undeify any man who is suppossed to be a God. If not, the people following him, will believe in their right to perform any deed, that serves the holy cause.

Mohammed is dead, but his holy path has not been disproven. His suicidal followers are rewarded with praise, and honor to their families. The living see this, and see the west recoil, and so they believe in the holiness of suicide.

It may take a great horror to shock such a culture into defeat.

USA all the way!

ValhallaMike on November 21, 2006 at 11:25 PM

Suicide attacks are actually a sign that they are losing or a sign that they cannot succeed with anything less.

It is a desperate tactic, and one that is incredibly wasteful of the ranks of the attackers. Remember, a suicide attacker CANNOT BE USED AGAIN, unlike a SOF unit or conventional military unit. In order for the side utilizing suicide bombers to be stopped, it will require a “sea change moment” event, an event that “changes everything” as far as the attacker is concerned’; an event that drives home that the eventual “end game” is total annihilation.

The use of 2 atomic bombs in Japan was one such event. The Japanese were faced with genocide if they didn’t surrender. Just 2 weapons killed outright 150,000 people. It was “the handwriting on the wall” that drove home to the Japanese government emotionally what they already knew logically — that they were going to be ground into nothing if they didn’t surrender, the “divine wind” notwithstanding.

Yes, there is a question that had the Allies not demanded unconditional surrender, the Japanese might have been willing to surrender earlier. But this would be the wrong assumption because “surrender” was absolute anathema to the Japanese warrior culture. Better death (seppuku), by their own hand, than surrender to an enemy.

Their brutal, murderous treatment of POWs (the Bataan Death march, the Cabanatuan prison camp, etc.), was a reflection on their belief that people who surrender are lower than the lowest animal, and no longer worthy of being treated decently.

It is going to take a similar “sea change event” to end the suicide bombers in Gaza and the West Bank.

Golda’s comment notwithstanding, the “Palestinians” are not going to stop as part of a peace agreement. They will never recognize Israel — unless forced to.

And that is what, I am afraid, is what it will take, and what Israel will be forced to do.

Israel has a choice — continue on in the mode they are in now. Hoping for a negotiated settlement and a peace treat like they have with Jordan and Egypt.

Or do something that they (and we) would abhor to achieve that “sea change moment” — such as using nuclear weapons on southern Lebanon and Gaza, and starving out the West Bank.

Whether this is part of their plan, I do not know. But the act of evacuating Jews from Gaza and reducing their settlements in the West Bank is a necessary first step to such an attack. In doing so, they are removing potential hostages and concentrating their enemies, thus reducing possible “friendly” collateral casualties.

And it would reduce them to doing what was done to them — committing genocide. And I believe that this would shake Israelis to their very souls — and would result certainly in the fall of their government, maybe even their democracy. Further, the reaction in foreign capitals would seriously damage any Israeli government that survived, as well as the people of Israel.

But with Iran close to obtaining nuclear weapons themselves, the Israelis may no longer have much choice, as I do not believe that the Israelis will go quietly into the long night.

I know that this is a harsh concept to grasp — and a harsh one to even state. But we saw in the video that Palestinians have already “groomed” the next generation of Jew Haters, and they certainly do not have much else to negotiate with (as if they were interested in negotiating, that is).

The relentless attacks on Israel by the suicide bombers, bolstered by their religious fanaticism, leaves little room to maneuver.

And by the way, as noted by some of you above, WE face the same problem.

georgej on November 22, 2006 at 1:25 AM

I just read an essay by historian Victor Davis Hansen, Will the West Stumble?

I recommend it to all of you.

It really is more than just Israel. It really is US (the West) against THEM (fundamentalist Islam) in a war to the knife.

georgej on November 22, 2006 at 2:27 AM

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