Obama calls for troop withdrawal in 6 months
posted at 8:53 pm on November 20, 2006 by Ian
Don’t think he’s running in 2008? Think again:
Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, called this afternoon for troop withdrawal from Iraq starting next year and negotiations with Iran and Syria over the war-torn country’s future.
Obama is moving farther and farther to the left as Democrats and Republicans claim their candidancy in the upcoming Presidential election.
Meanwhile, SurveyUSA released the results for their 50-state poll of potential 2008 candidates. When Obama is polled against any Republican nominee, he loses. He loses by a lot.
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Good. Let them stake out their positions as soon as possible.
Mr. Bingley on November 20, 2006 at 9:01 PM
This jerk has no idea what he is doing . . . but why should that surprise us of a politician. This poor sick society is in deep trouble.
rplat on November 20, 2006 at 9:03 PM
Obama, Obama, Obama. It’s fun to say it out loud. Not fun would be saying “President Obama”. Worse would be “President Clinton, Hillary Clinton”.
Bellicose Muse on November 20, 2006 at 9:03 PM
He might want to speak with Ned Lamont on how well that strategy worked for him. Perhaps he feels he can be a new, improved Freshmaker. By the way, I know he’s standing in front of Superman there, but my first reaction was that he might be relieving himself. Fortunately, the person taking the picture spared us from seeing it.
thedecider on November 20, 2006 at 9:05 PM
Empty suit.
Valiant on November 20, 2006 at 9:06 PM
SurveyUSA? Ah yes, which claimed that Steele and Cardin were neck and neck at 47-47% a week before Cardin crushed Steele 54-43%, right?
Color me skeptical. 1/3 of the country still doesn’t know who Obama is. So how does Obama do against a more likely GOP nominee, like Romney, Huckabee or Brownback?
I just don’t see McCain or Giuliani getting the nod.
Grebrook on November 20, 2006 at 9:11 PM
OHHHH. . .Bama. You think you can be President? We’ll see.
Troy Rasmussen on November 20, 2006 at 9:22 PM
He’s just going back to his comfortable base.
Right, the ones who know him think he’s a kid, a nicely behaved one. No one knows what he’s done, even since he won the Senate seat. Once they’ll really know him they’ll be even less luke-warm about him than they are now.
Entelechy on November 20, 2006 at 9:34 PM
And 1/3 less would know who he is if the media wasn’t making him out to be the best ever ever ever.
jematlock on November 20, 2006 at 9:35 PM
He can also play/placate the nutroots as Hillary’s VP. They can say that in 8 more years he’ll be more mature and learned, from the queen’s experience.
Entelechy on November 20, 2006 at 9:36 PM
Obama is a superman. A superman. A superman. (Follow a Eminem’s superman beat)
Apart from Iraq, we do not know his position in a lot issues; but we know his name. He always comes to the rescue. Just call his name.
Obama is a superman. A superman. A superman. (Follow a Eminem’s superman beat)
Ouabam on November 20, 2006 at 9:50 PM
I don’t know if it can be found, but there are some great excerpts to be found when Cavuto interviewed Jackie Mason.
His main point on double standards was how all these people seem to believe that Michael Steele wouldn’t be a good Senator though he has a strong record as Lieutenant Governor, meanwhile Barack Obama is an amazing political talent with strong potential to be President and he’s only spent 2 years in the Senate (and several in the state senate).
JoeEgo on November 20, 2006 at 9:56 PM
Will he next have a Big O on his chest? Sorry Oprah is the big O. Maybe he can use B.O.
dallas94 on November 20, 2006 at 9:56 PM
Obama isn’t moving farther to the left. He just feels safer letting it show. The first time I heard him speak (at the 2004 Dem Convention) it was quite obvious that he was a socialist through and through.
An eloquent speaker, you have to be able to read/hear the meaning between the well selected words, but it is there if you have sense to listen analytically.
LegendHasIt on November 20, 2006 at 10:04 PM
There you go America, you just voted for 2 years of investigations and presidential campaigns, bravo… Oh yeah, and for tax hikes and retreat! Yaaaaay! Terrorists win! The terrorists saw the Democrats a mile away. ‘Hey, the media will play up the blood and Gore, and the Dems will play up the media reports causing public opinion to turn against the war, and in they end they’ll pull out… if we can just keep blowing up innoccents’. If we had maintained a unified front, does anyone think we’d be in the situation we are right now? The terrorists aren’t idiots, they knew what they’ve been doing all along. If the entire country said “we’ll stay and crush them” 3 years ago, they wouldn’t have been emboldened with the idea that they can defeat us. Thanks Democrats.
RightWinged on November 20, 2006 at 10:06 PM
Rangel wants a draft and Obama wants out in 6 months. Good to see that the dems have a coherent strategy.
WisCon on November 20, 2006 at 10:11 PM
I call for Obama to withdraw from the senate in the next election. 6 years is enough
William Amos on November 20, 2006 at 10:13 PM
Well-stated. I say we send in more troops, crush the rebellion, THEN start talking about troop withdrawal. This non-sense of diplomacy with Iran or leaving with the insurgency intact makes us look terribly weak, and will ultimately make us more of a target in the future.
thedecider on November 20, 2006 at 10:16 PM
I’m afraid it’s too late. We’ll strike back at some point, but not before we’re attacked at home again, or in 15-20 years when help Europe take off it’s continent covering burka. Which ever comes first.
RightWinged on November 20, 2006 at 10:31 PM
What has Obama done and what is on his resume of public service and accomplishments? He gave a speech at the convention and appeared to be a moderating voice for the Donks. He is young, attractive, articulate, and black. Up till now that seems to be enough to have the Donks fall in love with him. Nice of him to show how far to the left he is going to plant himself. His true colors are beginning to show.
Mallard T. Drake on November 20, 2006 at 10:34 PM
In the Superman picture, Obama has this squenched look in his eye that says to me: I-I-I-I’m not sure this is the best PR move.
eeyore on November 20, 2006 at 10:41 PM
You do have to remember they nominated Kerry. He’s attractive(??) and articulate. They get a pass on the young and black stuff because, by golly, he’s a Vietnam vet.
I can’t wait until Obama makes a run. Either he loses out in the primaries and the nutroots cry racism at registered Dems (in the South??) or he becomes the Pres/Veep candidate and the whole damned party cries RAAAAACISM at the 51-55% of the electorate who are irrationally voting against their self interest.
Yeah, this post is going into my nostradamus drawer.
JoeEgo on November 20, 2006 at 10:45 PM
Uh huh, absolutely, it’s the Democrats fault that your hero Georgey couldn’t defeat the insurgents. All Pelosi’s fault. Oh, wait, no no no, Clinton’s fault, right?
Not yours, not Bush’s, not the GOP’s. No no no. Can’t be that. Blame everyone else. Hell, sounds to me like you’re BLAMING AMERICA FIRST.
Yeah, it’s America’s fault.
Grebrook on November 20, 2006 at 10:46 PM
This guy Obama scares me more than a little.
Ouabam on November 20, 2006 at 9:50 PM
And anyone who sings his name with superman is a bit out there as well. OUABAM, who or what are you?
shooter on November 20, 2006 at 10:47 PM
Grebrook, if you can’t argue points, it’s best to not say anything.
RightWinged on November 20, 2006 at 10:48 PM
Oh, my. He actually left the city and went downstate to a small town! That photo was taken in Metropolis, IL. I wonder if he was afraid leave the Democrat encalve of Chicago and pass through the near entirety of the state(in terms of area)that voted Republican.
dm60462 on November 20, 2006 at 10:48 PM
Dude, it’s ok, look, this will cheer you up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtfhFMgGr20
Grebrook on November 20, 2006 at 10:50 PM
Kerry is neither attractive, nor articulate. That petulant attitude and snobbish voice and accent drives even the lefties bonkers.
Entelechy on November 20, 2006 at 10:56 PM
Hey look, Grebrook just made a megacontribution to the “global orgasm”.
Entelechy on November 20, 2006 at 10:59 PM
Thank you General Osama,er,Obama,er,what’s your name again?
TwinkietheKid on November 20, 2006 at 11:01 PM
Grebrook, what part didn’t you understand about “Grebrook, if you can’t argue points, it’s best to not say anything”?
(here’s the part where you start going after the “conservative” Fox News, and cite Media Matters studies, etc. because we all really care that O’Reilly violated you witha falafel and never called you again)
RightWinged on November 20, 2006 at 11:07 PM
Hey hey hey… now that’s over the line.. UNLESS you’re Ted Kennedy. Then it’s okay. Is that you Ted?
RightWinged on November 20, 2006 at 11:08 PM
Media Matters! Aaaaahahahahahahaha! Yeah, you’ll definitely get a “fair” assessment of news organizations from them. Sides. Hurt.
thedecider on November 20, 2006 at 11:22 PM
The sad part is, Grebrook is citing them in other threads as we
speaktype.RightWinged on November 20, 2006 at 11:32 PM
I know – it’s not the first time either. When I think about lunatic lefty’s there’s something Ouabam said the other night that sticks in my head: “The Crackwhore Theory: I didn’t take the drug; the drug took me”. There’s a strange duplicity that takes place whereby one can condemn Fox news for “bias” but praise (and quote) Media Matters for perceived fairness.
thedecider on November 20, 2006 at 11:45 PM
Obamagasm!
SouthernGent on November 20, 2006 at 11:55 PM
I call for Obama to withdraw from the Senate in six months. This half-wit, who only won because Ryan’s wife ratted him out during the campaign after the Demos offered Obama-Osama up as a burnt offering, needs to be withdrawn from being taken seriously
He’s another Carol Mosely Braun, without ( yet ) all the sleazy corruption
Janos Hunyadi on November 21, 2006 at 12:04 AM
Obama the Tool.
Griz on November 21, 2006 at 12:18 AM
You’re underestimating Obama. This guy is fully backed by the Soros machine.
JohnJ on November 21, 2006 at 12:19 AM
Yeah, I’m sure that crackpot Brent Bozell and the MRC are more reliable right, because they’re right-wingers? A nutjob who claims Joseph McCarthy was an “American hero” and Walter Cronkite was secretly a spy for the Soviet Union? Pathetic. Media Matters uses actual video and audio clips to back up its claims. If you have a problem with Media Matters, you apparently also have a problem with reality. The reason right-wing fanatics like you despise MM so much is because they make fools out of by catching Republicans when they put their foots in their mouths.
Grebrook on November 21, 2006 at 12:33 AM
Note the difference between a right-winger and a left-winger: The right-winger, as personified here, merely spews his point of view without backing it by fact, whereas the left-winger, being myself, actually notes things specifically about Fox when taking issue with it, and thus backs his argument, whereas the right-winger decides, in the good fashion of nutjobs like Michelle Malkin, to merely babble incoherently about “MOONBATS! DEMOCRATS ARE TERRORISTS!”.
Hence why the right-wingers lost the election, because it became fairly pathetic by the end, when they were reduced, on the national stage, to a bunch of spoiled brats accusing the American public of supporting terrorism.
Keep it up, kiddies. You’re already handing us what’s left of the government for 2008, especially when you nominate some nutjob like Mitt Romney, Huckabee, Sam “Abortion is Ze Holocaust!” Brownback, Tom “Let’s nuke Mecca/Load the Mexicans into catapults” Tancredo or Newt “I screwed my intern and I’m not ashamed” Gingrich.
The plethora of nuts you have lined up for 2008 is simply astonishing.
Grebrook on November 21, 2006 at 12:37 AM
…Obama…this generation’s “Pet Rock”….
Puritan1648 on November 21, 2006 at 12:40 AM
That would be feet. Calm down, lest you won’t be around to enjoy the political orgasm in 2008.
Entelechy on November 21, 2006 at 12:43 AM
Will it be a ‘global orgasm’? The lefties will love it. We can send “good thoughts” around the world.
thedecider on November 21, 2006 at 12:53 AM
Also, Grebrook, those of you who back Monica/Clinton, are hardly in a position to rant about N. Gingrich.
Entelechy on November 21, 2006 at 12:54 AM
Two rules. I give our trolls two frigging rules to follow:
1. No major profanity.
2. No insulting Michelle.
And for some of them, two rules is one too many.
Bid farewell to Grebrook. He will no longer be joining us.
Allahpundit on November 21, 2006 at 12:54 AM
Can it really be true! My God! Yes, Virginia, there IS a Santa Claus and his name is Allahpundit!
thedecider on November 21, 2006 at 12:58 AM
…Grebe was getting too fat, anyway…people insisted on feeding him….
Puritan1648 on November 21, 2006 at 1:04 AM
Allah – really, I have to give utmost kudo’s to you, Hot Air, and Michelle Malkin. You really do provide a platform that allows dissent – not a bad thing by any means. I visit many other sites and this one is – by far – the absolute BEST on the web for content, dialogue, and FAIRNESS. Thanks to all at Hot Air (Brian, Ian, and any others) for providing – I think – the best forum on the web for free-thinking, political commentary.
thedecider on November 21, 2006 at 1:08 AM
Must add another leaf to my “reasons to be thankful for this year” tree.
Entelechy on November 21, 2006 at 1:12 AM
Now Grebrook can’t answer – I wanted to ask him why he left out Messrs Giuliani and McCain.
Because they’d beat any of your choices!
Entelechy on November 21, 2006 at 1:17 AM
Well, I’m sure it’s because Hil and Weasley Clark would easily beat them hands down. At least, that was the earlier argument I think he was making.
thedecider on November 21, 2006 at 1:24 AM
Think of all the extra time he’ll have to be in love with himself now. No wonder he admires people like John Kerry and Weasely Clark so much–they’re fellow narcissists.
ReubenJCogburn on November 21, 2006 at 1:46 AM
Barack Hussein Obama, is a dangerous man. He has the full weight of the MSM behind him as well as the pseudo-intellectual elites fawning over him. I don’t trust him.
x95b10 on November 21, 2006 at 1:49 AM
Thanks AP, from someone who has trouble resisting the baiting from these trolls.
RightWinged on November 21, 2006 at 2:01 AM
You do! I think you just enjoy the argument. I only enjoy it as long as it remains debatable and intelligent. That one, however, was neither.
thedecider on November 21, 2006 at 2:18 AM
Speaking of which, I don’t see a lot of Constantine any more.
thedecider on November 21, 2006 at 2:18 AM
I don’t enjoy it, believe me… But let’s put it this way, I could never be O’Reilly because I can’t bring myself to say “I’ll give you the last word”. (even now I’m doing it)
RightWinged on November 21, 2006 at 2:37 AM
Allah ( peace be upon all of us ), did you finally, really, truly get rid of that meddlesome troll?
Grebrook the Wanker, the one-handed self-manipulator is gone? Better late than never, and you have my temporary but profound gratitude. Now the grown-ups can actually talk amongst us-selves without constantly having fifth-grade insults and lies dumped on us by a mentally de-ranged femme tool-fool
thanks again, man
Janos Hunyadi on November 21, 2006 at 2:56 AM
You are up late tonight, Puritan, Deep in the Heart of Texas. Getting ready for any Lone Star witch-burnings, prepping for your final in Mongolian, or just celebrating the casting out of the troll?
Jó szabadulás -hoz rosszakaratú körének ( Good riddance to the malignant troll )
It’s already mid-morning in the heart of Europa, where the bureaucrats grow fat and stupid. Obama would prosper here, surfing the long slow waves of B.S. and newspeak
Janos Hunyadi on November 21, 2006 at 3:08 AM
I like the suggestion that he withdraw from the Senate.
However, I am under the impression that the Chicago Tribune went to court to force release of Jeri Ryan’s child support filings. It is news to me that she deliberately sabotaged her ex-husband’s candidacy by leaking the sex-club accusation.
Personally, I believe that Ryan should not have withdrawn. But since he did, I blame the IL Republican parthy for being morons in slating a CARPETBAGGER like Keyes instead of finding someone from inside Illinois.
But when you add the inability to get the Party’s act together back in the primaries, and their inability to get the losers to support the eventual winner in a race against a crook whom even the Chicago Dem machine can’t stand on a personal level, means that the party’s central committee should resign.
The Republican party of Illinois is a DISGRACE to Illinois — the home state of the 1st REPUBLICAN President.
georgej on November 21, 2006 at 3:36 AM
You got that right georgej.
Then again, the voters in Illinois are a disgrace. They keep voting the crooks back into office. Not just the Republicans but the Dems as well.
We have been stuck with the Dem machine politics for as long as I can remember. First King Richard and now his son. Crap, did you see where 20% of the City Hall patronage workers pull in disability?
BobK on November 21, 2006 at 6:07 AM
Funny thing, I think I’ll continue listening to General Abizaid. When I need some empty headed, libtard, politican to piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining, I’ll give Obama a call.
E L Frederick (Sniper One) on November 21, 2006 at 7:00 AM
Obama only concerns me if the Il Democratic Machine ever stops feeding on itself. He’s too clean. Too appealing.
Politics are a contact sport around here, and so far he’s been unscathed. Somebody will need something, and he’s surely in possesion of some debt slips. He owes alot of folks for thier support. Nobody pulls your wagon for free..
We wrote the charter on “pay for play” politics in Chicago, and generally accept it, not so sure about the rest of the country.
There’s been a real estate deal that just won’t die, that may be the crack that starts to knock Humpty off the wall. With Daley secure in running free for Chicago Mayor, the greed for a DC office will bring out the ratz.
just my .02 here.
CBarker on November 21, 2006 at 8:31 AM
Let the LEFT’S GOLDEN BOY…ahem…stake out a position WAAaaaaaaaY out on the fringe. Then we pick OUR guy. Even on the fencepost where they have all been lately, ANY Republican will look like a hero.
seejanemom on November 21, 2006 at 8:44 AM
Thanks AP! Long overdue IMHO.
E L Frederick (Sniper One) on November 21, 2006 at 9:07 AM
Bogus poll…first thing I did was match Hillary vs Mitt and it had Hillary winning Texas. She might could win Texas if Osama was her opponent but that’s about it. I say again…bogus poll.
b4itsover on November 21, 2006 at 9:10 AM
Yeah, I took the under on that one too. :(
Pablo on November 21, 2006 at 9:35 AM
Question to all:
Has Obama ever visited Iraq like a few other Senators?
Kokonut on November 21, 2006 at 11:33 AM
Janos, did you move back to Europe? To Hungary? If you don’t want to answer, that’s ok. I’ve been in Budapest many times and love it. I thought that you live in the U.S., however. Regards,
Entelechy on November 21, 2006 at 12:11 PM
I still wonder. Could we have “won” in Vietnam if only we’d gotten China and the USSR involved in Vietnamese security rather than the failed diplomacy that we ended up with?
Or is this somehow different with Iran and Syria?
gekkobear on November 21, 2006 at 12:43 PM
Entelechy, kedves, I move around a lot since the Clintons put that contract out on me. I use my older son’s e mail ‘homepage’ to post here. I am low-tech, but he is The Opposite of That.
How can anyone not love Budapest? BTW, most of the movies and European-produced TV mini-series that all of you have seen that are set “in Paris ( New Beirut ) are actually filmed in Budapest, so you’ve seen more of that city than you think
hint: look closely at the street signs
Janos Hunyadi on November 21, 2006 at 1:18 PM
Igen Janos, about the movies. I have distant relatives in Vienna and they told me about the filming going on in Budapest. Great and friendly place for today’s business and tourism. I’m happy for the people and the country. Hungary was so far ahead of the rest of us, during communism. Free and tough spirits :)
Entelechy on November 21, 2006 at 2:00 PM
I think it’s racist to force Obama to pose in front of a white Superman.
JackM on November 21, 2006 at 2:19 PM
Thanks, Janos; I almost missed my cue, there. The Chicago Tribune, for all of their many faults, did publish a story on the InstaPresident, exposing one of the reasons why no one comes out of Chicago and does anything on the national scene.
This putz will be in jail, our Governor Rod Baloneyvich will be out of office, and Hillary will use this story to cut Osama Obama off at the knees.
Jaibones on November 21, 2006 at 3:02 PM
PS I won’t insult Grebrook when he can’t defend himself, but bless you AP.
Jaibones on November 21, 2006 at 3:03 PM
Okay, Jailbones, the Chicago Trib won’t tell me who ‘this putz’ is without signing up for something, but in American politics there are many, many putzes
And the knees ain’t where Hillary cuts guys off at…..
noam sayin’?
Janos Hunyadi on November 21, 2006 at 3:18 PM
Janos,
Heh. This putz would be Tony Rezko, a Chicago-fundraising-insider-playa. And I copy your Hillary castration…
For what it’s worth, the Trib registration is free and mostly harmless.
Jaibones on November 21, 2006 at 4:22 PM
Soros also backed Ned. I say let Soros use his money on Obama, and keep it away from Hillary. Obama will self distruct.
right2bright on November 21, 2006 at 4:31 PM
Goodbye Grebook. BTW America is at war with the insurgency, not George Bush and the GOP. Your failure to grasp this simple fact informs your whole worldview.
aengus on November 21, 2006 at 5:24 PM
Allahpundit was more than fair with Grebrook and gave him lot’s of chances. I remember Grebrook using the F-word eight time in a single post one night, totally inane, I was surprised he didn’t get the boot that night. But in a way it a shame he’s gone, I was hoping if he stayed long enough that he might eventually see the light. But he was too far gone.
Some people complain about “feeding the troll” and I’m guilty of that. But I think the trolls need to be challenged, that is not to say you shouldn’t pick your fights carefully, but when they have opened themselves up for the smack-down, you should be quick to oblige. We conservative are sometimes too passive in the debate. We allow the left to spew their lies unassailed thinking that their lunacy is self evident and no one will take it to heart. But history proves us wrong about that far too often.
Maxx on November 21, 2006 at 9:31 PM
Maxx, thanks for the A. Rand quote. How true, how true.
Some examples:
- men being afraid of holding a door open (when I hold doors open for men and for women)
- hardly any jokes allowed any more
- can’t express true feelings on 9/11 in the office
- masculinity diminished
- multi-culti gone bonkers
- individuality gone to almost extinction
- b.s. flourishing – lack of sincerity – everything is faux
Entelechy on November 21, 2006 at 11:05 PM
Ja, Maxx, nice quote from Fountainhead Ayn, but you’re wrong about the troll: it never, never would have seen any light. Its pupils are fixed & dilated, and for him/her it was already too late a long time ago
Janos Hunyadi on November 22, 2006 at 1:37 AM