Poll: 51% of Dems don’t want Kerry as nominee; Update: Tivo alert — “Winter Soldier,” tonight at 9
posted at 5:01 pm on November 20, 2006 by Ian
A new CNN poll shows 51% of Democrats do not want Kerry to be the party’s nominee in 2008, while only 7% currently support him.
More information about the poll here.
Update (Allahpundit): Tonight on the Sundance Channel, relive America’s golden age.
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Kerry has 7% of Democrats supporting him??
How did the number get that high?
Rosetta on November 20, 2006 at 5:03 PM
Is it possible that even the nutroots know an idiot when they see one.
MikeyB on November 20, 2006 at 5:07 PM
That sounds about right. I don’t know anyone who wants him to be the nominee. All talk is Edwards and Clark. Don’t see any real enthusiasm for Gore or Kerry to return.
Grebrook on November 20, 2006 at 5:09 PM
Well, don’t forget that it’s a fact that 50% of Americans are below average…
How that applies here is up to you to decide.
NTWR on November 20, 2006 at 5:11 PM
The people in my office who would qualify as nutroots or libs very close to being nutroots have all said they wish Kerry would just go away.
He has no support from his base, and the conservatives will never let him forget all of it from 1970s through the the “botched joke.” Politically, he is a “dead man walking.”
Return to the back benches of the Senate, Mr. Heinz.
Mallard T. Drake on November 20, 2006 at 5:12 PM
I had never even heard of Kerry until the 2004 election. After everything that has come out about him, how did he ever have a political career?
SnakeintheGrass on November 20, 2006 at 5:15 PM
…those guys will all be watching the Sundance Channel tonight, I don’t doubt.
…why don’t these people just emigrate and get it over with. It’d save all of this “America gives me cooties” hysteria you so often hear….
Puritan1648 on November 20, 2006 at 5:23 PM
Ha ha ha, the Republican machine is at full speed among the registered Democrats!
Ropera on November 20, 2006 at 5:23 PM
The End is Nigh!!
Seriously, how do the people in Mass. keep voting this guy and his *hiccup* buddy Kennedy back into office? Is there really not anyone better in that state to represent them? There has to be.
Tyrs Fury on November 20, 2006 at 5:26 PM
According to South Park, 25% of Americans are retarded – wonder if that includes that 7% mentioned above…
Mountain Soldier on November 20, 2006 at 5:35 PM
Must be a Democrat fact..
Consider this:
1000 people take a test with a possible score of 100.
The average score is 50. It appears that 500 people are below average. However, 900 scored 50 and the other 100 scored either above or below 50. The average is still 50, but half are not under average.
I find that statements containing percentages or averages without supporting data are usually misleading..like de..
News2Use on November 20, 2006 at 5:40 PM
Kerry’s primary campaign will end as soon as one of the other candidates tags him for not responding to the Swiftvets and finishing with $14 million left over in the bank at the end of the 2004 campaign.
The fact that Kerry could not legally spend that money on the campaign will be irrelevent, because Kerry will not be able to explain that fact in less than 100 words.
rw on November 20, 2006 at 5:42 PM
I must be a cynic, but I’m reading those results as “7% support Kerry, and another 35% ‘would consider supporting’ Kerry” or a total of 45% of Democrats polled would probably vote for Kerry in a primary campaign if there wasn’t someone they liked more.
I am stunned that the number is that high. Did I miss something?
Jaibones on November 20, 2006 at 5:44 PM
Oops = 42%
Jaibones on November 20, 2006 at 5:44 PM
Now, this really gives me a secure feeling – Messrs Smiley and Weasel. Just what the terrorists ordered.
Entelechy on November 20, 2006 at 6:02 PM
Re: Jaibones
I believe the questions were asked about the individual, not in total. For example, they asked what people thought about Kerry, then Obama, then Hillary, etc. So the 7% are probably people who know for sure they would vote for Kerry — no matter what. Then the 42% would probably vote for Kerry if there was no Obama or Hillary in the poll.
Ian on November 20, 2006 at 6:06 PM
Kerry is old and boring.
The GOP would be hard pressed to nominate anyone as articulate and likeable as John Edwards. Edwards/Obama sounds pretty good to me.
JaHerer22 on November 20, 2006 at 6:06 PM
I wouldn’t watch the Sundance channel even if they were interviewing God.
Kevin M on November 20, 2006 at 6:33 PM
My dream ticket is Clinton-Kerry: “guaraneteed to alienate the maximum number of voters in the shortest period of time”
Janos Hunyadi on November 20, 2006 at 7:06 PM
Agree with JaHerer that Edwards is articulate and likeable, but so are several Repubs. Romney, Rudy (never mind the lisp), Steele, …
mikeyboss on November 20, 2006 at 7:10 PM
Yeah, I’m sure the terrorists will be thrilled to have the former Supreme Allied Commander Europe of NATO to be president of the United States as opposed to a gutless redneck chickenhawk that joined the air national guard to avoid Vietnam and spent his time AWOL snorting crack because even that was an inconvience to him.
Yeah, I’m sure they’re absolutely giddy about Clark.
Grebrook on November 20, 2006 at 7:11 PM
Actually, it’s just the definition of “average.”
Average is like the “mean” the point at which half are above and half are below. If you take all Americans, or all humans, half will be above the “average” weight, IQ, income bracket, anything, and half will be below.
Snared ya on that one though! ha!
(In a snarky mood today, sorry.)
NTWR on November 20, 2006 at 7:25 PM
Is it possible for you to actually make an effing argument, Grebrook, or are you content just to wallow in the weak ad hominems of the fever swamps?
Grow up.
Slublog on November 20, 2006 at 7:37 PM
I don’t know, Grebrook. That “It’s because of Iraq” video really soured me on the guy.
mikeyboss on November 20, 2006 at 7:50 PM
Re stats: I was taught that the word “average” is not specific enough. You need to say mean, median, mode or whatever. In common use, average usually refers to the mean.
mikeyboss on November 20, 2006 at 7:52 PM
Maybe, uuuh- Kerry will run, uuhh- as an Independant. /sarc
DannoJyd on November 20, 2006 at 8:00 PM
Grebrook, consider this. It takes you a paragraph to slander our current POTUS, but I can define our last democrat President with just 1 word.
Cigarman.
See how little effort it takes to speak with relevance?
DannoJyd on November 20, 2006 at 8:06 PM
Not quite…. This still ignors all those people that are ‘average’. Like the average weight is 122lbs, so all those weighing 122lbs cannot be counted as either above or below average.
Hey, don’t mind me, it’s just a habit to disect information to determine accuracy or omissions. Used to be that I needed to pay attention to details since the details could determine whether I flew home First Class or in a box.
Cheers
News2Use on November 20, 2006 at 8:13 PM
I am confused, I heard Kerry tell Chris Wallace that there was still plenty of support for him. UMMMMM another dillusional thought by Kerry. In case you didn’t see the interview Kerry also said that he is a veteran and served in Viet Nam.
DOUCHE BAG
iam7545 on November 20, 2006 at 8:14 PM
Just shows the 7% of those polled are educated beyond their intelligence.
Wade on November 20, 2006 at 8:53 PM
So the 38% would consider supporting Kerry…how? If NO OTHER CANDIDATE STEPPED FORWARD?? Lurch had his spotlight in the last election and just can’t let it go. It speaks volumes to his arrogance that he considers running again.
thedecider on November 20, 2006 at 8:57 PM
Grebrook may be on to something about Edwards. I live in NC, and I’ve always agreed with the Senator Lightweight criticism – he never seems to be able to get beyond the talking points. But you know, the Edwards thing could work well for the Dems, even if he is a lightweight. When he was a trial lawyer, in one malpractice suit, Edwards channeled the spirit of a little girl: “I feel her, I feel her presence…She’s inside me and she’s talking to you. And this is what she says to you…”
Edwards could channel the Democrat Party A-Team. In times of crisis, he could call on John Kennedy and Franklin Roosevelt. Elderly voters who are still voting for the memory of Roosevelt could vote for the real thing, fireside chats and all. I don’t know if Edwards can do it extemporaneously, or if there would have to be some semi-creepy seance thing involved, but it might be worth a try. What if Dems could vote for the real JFK?!?!
eeyore on November 20, 2006 at 10:33 PM
Grubby spewed:
Snorting crack? Maybe in 1970, off the casing of a magical IBM Selectric Typesetter…
Courage!
Pablo on November 20, 2006 at 11:05 PM
Hmmmmm… someone was sarcastic and uniformed about the weasel wesley clark. But I found this very interesting:
I gotta go with Stormin’ Norman on this one. wesley clark is a bad joke. Actually much much worse than that.
techno_barbarian on November 20, 2006 at 11:05 PM
And edwards is a simpering ambulance chaser with a photogenic doo. But that’s about it.
techno_barbarian on November 20, 2006 at 11:07 PM
You still give him too much credit. As for any suggestion that he might be considered again for a run at the presidency, all I can say is “bring it on”! He can be Hil’s running mate…or Weasely Clark’s!
thedecider on November 20, 2006 at 11:12 PM
Actually, the link above is broken. This it a working link to that US News and World Report article.
techno_barbarian on November 20, 2006 at 11:24 PM
techno_barbarian, I was not sarcastic at all, in this case. He is a weasel. I know this from those who worked closely with him.
I almost wish he’d run and come close so more of the truth would come out about him. He escaped much of it in the last round because he was just another prima donna, along with Kerry and the rest of the parade…
Entelechy on November 20, 2006 at 11:30 PM
Entelechy, dear friend, I was not referring to you with my remarks. Hint: They were aimed squarely at the slavishly slobering troll. I just saw that nobody’d yet linked to even one of the reasons weasley is, well, a weasel. And I thought that a prudent thing to do. You know, leave links to actual news sources rather than pull invective out of thin air just to be disagreeable and contrary.
I completely agree with your assessment above. And you raise interesting points. From what I’ve seen the dems are empty fragile husks. Easy to shatter with past actions and facts.
techno_barbarian on November 20, 2006 at 11:54 PM
Re: Edwards.
At least he was committed enough to his campaign to give up his seat for it. That showed me he wasn’t all about hedging his bets in a blatant quest for power .
Republicans should be very afraid if he gets the nomination…he could be serious competition because he doesn’t automatically crystallize our opposition like Hillary and the plastic-faced Wes do.
James on November 21, 2006 at 7:47 AM
Plus, he’s got the Greg Stillson thing going on. Somebody should keep an eye on Chris Walken.
Pablo on November 21, 2006 at 9:37 AM
I don’t find Edwards likeable at all. Too insincere. His lawyer persona I guess.
Rose on November 21, 2006 at 2:00 PM