Video: Rangel says he’ll introduce a bill to bring back the draft

posted at 3:39 pm on November 19, 2006 by Allahpundit

Say it with me: permanent. Democratic. majority.

He floats this idea periodically when his side needs a little boost. The last time he really pushed it was before the election in 2004, when the left tried to scare voters into Waffles’s camp by whispering about a secret Republican plan to restart the draft after Bush won. The GOP called his bluff by bringing the bill to the House floor for a vote, where it failed, 402-2. Among the nays? Charlie Rangel. (Among the yeas: Jack Murtha.)

With talk now of Bush sending 20,000 more troops to Iraq and Zinni and Batiste telling the Times that withdrawal would be disastrous, doves need to recapture the momentum. Enter the draft bill, which is doomed to fail but at least gives the media a few weeks of material with which to dissuade anyone leaning towards redoubling our efforts to win this thing.


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Thanks Charlie. Now we can just have a general draft where young people have to perform some kind of service. Two years in the military or four years in a service program. Just like the Europeans. And we see the wonders it has done for their militaries.

Nethicus on November 20, 2006 at 10:19 AM

The really ironic part about this is remember Kerry saying that people who joined the military are just stupid. Well they are smart enough to see this for what it is, just like every other time it has worked it’s way into the news in the last decade. The only ones who think this is even possible is all those “smart” kids in college.
Why can’t the Dems get out of the 60′s? Maybe we need to buy these guys a satelitte radio set to at least the 90′s music station. We may not be able to bring them into the 21st century but surely we can get them to the end of the 20th century. There will not be a return to the draft any more then there will be a reunion tour of the Beatles.
Why do I keep hearing the phrase “This is your brain on drugs.”

LakeRuins on November 20, 2006 at 10:19 AM

Yes draft all the rich folks kids….GW Bush’s too…send those girls over there to fight a Bush type pc war. Draft the dixie chicks….draft em all.

LZVandy on November 20, 2006 at 10:21 AM

Oh yeah don’t forget all you California weenies VOTE DEMOCRAT!!!!

LakeRuins on November 20, 2006 at 10:31 AM

When I heard NPR report this on Saturday, I nearly wrecked my car.

THESE. IDIOTS. CONTROL. THE. HOUSE. AND. SENATE.

What is it folks? Do we send more troops? Do we withdraw our troops? Draft is bad? Draft is good?

We have a lot of work to do in the next 23 months.

natesnake on November 20, 2006 at 11:09 AM

Rangel only put this back out there to keep the wheels spinning until January,when it will disappear and the true Democratic plan for victory in Iraq will be put in place. It’s called “Defunding Bush’s War”. And the prospective Pol Pot-wannabes of the Islamic jihadists are just waiting for us to leave. Everyone on the left who thinks we went there and toppled Hussein for Iraq’s oil have no Idea what will happen if an under-protected Iraq is left to protect themselves from neighbors who would see easy pickings and quite a treasure trove of oil (which equals Political POWER in 2006)just waiting to be conquered.
Iran has been sending insurgents over their border to destabilize Iraq, and we thought it was a religious jihad. But if Iran were to take over a weakened Iraq, they would be THE power in the world, a return to Empire with their vassal states of Syria and Lebanon. Iraq is the key to keeping that from happening, which the Bush admin figured out a long time ago, and the Dems are ignoring, which makes these perilous times.

Doug on November 20, 2006 at 11:13 AM

Since the Dems have no shame floating whimsical ideas, I have one I want them to pursue:

The Human & Dolphin Sex Act of 2006

It’s about time I can indulge in hot dolphin sex without the legal recourse.

natesnake on November 20, 2006 at 11:23 AM

Y’know, even if you buy the idea that young, poor, black men are over-represented in our military (I don’t know the stats–could very well be true), how is that a bad thing? When complaining about this issue, Rangel likes to overlook a couple of facts:

1) Young black men statistically have a higher chance of survival on the streets of Baghdad than they do on the streets of America’s largest cities.

2) Young black men (and all others who serve) leave military service statistically better-educated and better equipped for financial success than most of their peers.

aero on November 20, 2006 at 11:33 AM

Will Rangel vote for the draft this time around?

Then he could say he actually voted against the draft before he voted for it.

What a moron.

iNeXuS on November 20, 2006 at 11:42 AM

1) Young black men statistically have a higher chance of survival on the streets of Baghdad than they do on the streets of America’s largest cities.

To clarify, I meant to say that “poor young black men” have a statistically higher chance of survival in Iraq than on American urban streets. I’ll look for some stats to back the statement up, but I know that the number of murders in most American cities exceeds the death rate in Iraq for American soldiers.

aero on November 20, 2006 at 11:42 AM

To clarify, I meant to say that “poor young black men” have a statistically higher chance of survival in Iraq than on American urban streets.

RACIST!

Just kidding. I know the death statistic is high, but what is really sad is the prison rate. Something to the ring of 70%?

Military service is a good thing for many people. That being an all volunteer army. The draft is only an option when the all volunteer army runs out.

natesnake on November 20, 2006 at 11:47 AM

The Human & Dolphin Sex Act of 2006

Ha. Reminds me of the SNL skit of the protest rally.
“What do we want?”
“To legalize porn!”
“Sir, pornography is already legal.”
“Not the kind that I like.”

Ragnel has come up with the typical Democratic reaction to plans that we might increase troop levels in Iraq. Fight sound planning with baseless fearmongering.

The thought that this man will soon hold the pursestrings to our Iraq operational budget scares me beyond belief. Is this man cynical enough to cut all funding to Iraq, endangering thousands of soldiers’ lives? You bet your ass he is.

BohicaTwentyTwo on November 20, 2006 at 11:50 AM

I’m not worried, he’ll pull a Heinz/Kerry and vote against it before he votes for it.

The best part of the whole thing is Rangel taking about hypocrisy:

(Yahoo News) “I don’t see how anyone can support the war and not support the draft. I think to do so is hypocritical,” he said.

How can you vote against the draft, and then turn around and introduce the bill for it? Duh!

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on November 20, 2006 at 12:06 PM

Rangle..you are a bigger moron than Kerry…Please be his vp in 08…

areseaoh on November 20, 2006 at 12:06 PM

Okay, here’s an article from WaPo on the death rates of young black males in Philly vs. Iraq:

The death rate for African American men ages 20 to 34 in Philadelphia was 4.37 per 1,000 in 2002, 11 percent higher than among troops in Iraq. Slightly more than half the Philadelphia deaths were homicides.

aero on November 20, 2006 at 12:24 PM

I think there should be a rule: If you introduce a bill your vote is automatically for the bill.

Kevin R on November 20, 2006 at 12:25 PM

Sorry, first time trying to incorporate a link into a comment here. The URL for the WaPo article is:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/25/AR2006082500940.html

Sorry to screw it up–I’ll do better next time! :-)

aero on November 20, 2006 at 12:26 PM

I think there should be a rule: If you introduce a bill your vote is automatically for the bill.

Kevin R on November 20, 2006 at 12:25 PM

Your making waaaay to much sense. Watch out for the liberal with the hammer, he’s going to come clock you up side the head in the name of “intellectual equality”.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on November 20, 2006 at 12:42 PM

That wasn’t Rangel, it was Susan Estrich in a Rangel mask (listen closely to the voice again). — RightWinged

…man…ol’ Sue might wanna consider cuttin’ back on the stogies….

…a mask is a good idea, though…Charlie, Dracula, Donald Duck…anything….

Puritan1648 on November 20, 2006 at 12:46 PM

The ethnic mix in the military reflects that of the American population as a whole. So while blacks conprise 11 – 12% of the US as a whole they also comprise the same percentage in the military. You really want to know who is doing the fighting and dying just go to CNN’s website and there they have a complete list of all the service members killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. But be warned there is a reason why Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and others have not been playing the race card. They would have to fold.

LakeRuins on November 20, 2006 at 1:39 PM

All the morons fool idiot dumbasses who voted for the same… just hate the USA and use Rangle’s stinking arse as a secret weapon to destroy the USA. That’s all he’s good for..

signed disabled veteran, who hates to hear the anti-war bungholes..

retired on November 20, 2006 at 5:19 PM

I say the first person in line for a physical is Markos (dkos)….And right behind his naked ass—

Anyone? Anyone?…Ten points and a hummer to the guy in the last row——–

CHELSEA CLINTON !!!

seejanemom on November 20, 2006 at 6:04 PM

Military service is a good thing for many people. That being an all volunteer army. The draft is only an option when the all volunteer army runs out.

natesnake on November 20, 2006 at 11:47 AM

Taking your excellent point into consideration, what effect do you think the liberals running Congress will have on our current military quotas, and re-enlistment?

DannoJyd on November 20, 2006 at 7:46 PM

Heh, last time this came up he voted against it. *Fill in your own Kerry joke here*

Listen, he knows damn well it’ll get squashed again, he just wants to make a point (albeit tired lib point) and spook the younger voters.

AND he doesn’t want it to go through because he knows that 62% of the 18-30 yr olds voted democrat in the midterms. To have this bill pass would end that trend most ricky tick.

Alden Pyle on November 20, 2006 at 10:18 PM

Taking your excellent point into consideration, what effect do you think the liberals running Congress will have on our current military quotas, and re-enlistment?

Now I’m by no means a statistician, but I’m going to go with…. THE NUMBERS WILL DROP!

What did I win?

I would personally hesitate joining the military if our current ruling party were idiots.

The current ruling party are idiots.

natesnake on November 21, 2006 at 9:03 AM

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