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	<title>Comments on: Video: The obligatory UCLA/taser post; Update: Alleged eyewitness: He was asking for it</title>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Video: Hey, how about another long, angry debate over a police brutality clip?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Video: Hey, how about another long, angry debate over a police brutality clip?</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] be trends with these brutality vids that catch on online: For the last few years it was nothing but arguments over proper taser use and lately it&#8217;s been nothing but arguments over what constitutes [...]</description>
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		<title>By: pligg.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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17 Nov 2006 ... Video: The obligatory UCLA/taser post; Update: Alleged eyewitness: He was asking for it....</description>
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<p>17 Nov 2006 &#8230; Video: The obligatory UCLA/taser post; Update: Alleged eyewitness: He was asking for it&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Video: Cops tase moonbat at Kerry speech just to watch him squirm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Video: Cops tase moonbat at Kerry speech just to watch him squirm</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] at him after he finishes speaking and for no discernible reason. From there it plays out like the UCLA incident last year &#8212; screaming, struggling, and finally pain-compliance via the taser, which typically [...]</description>
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		<title>By: William2006</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/17/video-the-obligatory-uclataser-post/comment-page-2/#comment-112072</link>
		<dc:creator>William2006</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 21:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has nothing to do with the Patriot Act.  The perp&#039;s mention, or, rather, his screaming &quot;Here&#039;s your Patriot Act&quot; is nonsense, along the lines of Keith Olberman or Bill Maher&#039;s fabricated statements designed to insight hatred and animosity toward their world view enemies.

This kid is a Prima Donna, a regular princess.  

This diva can be seen in that video kicking away with his legs.  The chump!

&quot;Don&#039;t Touch me!!!&quot; he screamed.  Come on, you girly man!  Shut up, follow directions, and stop making a scene.

The enforcement personnel need more training.  Maybe next time they won&#039;t allow a chump like this to dictate the scenario and control the situation.  Maybe next time the patrol personnel will act more decisively and take the chump away immediately, shut shutting off his opportunity to do his Broadway show.

This guy even got a standing ovation from observers who applaud him while demonizing the &quot;officers.&quot;

Instead of helping the officers by screaming at the guy &quot;Shut up and do as your told, you trouble maker!  Get up and leave, and stop with the vitriolic pabulum about the Patriot Act!&quot;

I truly believe that these babies are well trained in the school of &quot;How to get the spotlight on yourself, and how to make yourself to be a victim and martyr&quot; school of ethics.



William</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has nothing to do with the Patriot Act.  The perp&#8217;s mention, or, rather, his screaming &#8220;Here&#8217;s your Patriot Act&#8221; is nonsense, along the lines of Keith Olberman or Bill Maher&#8217;s fabricated statements designed to insight hatred and animosity toward their world view enemies.</p>
<p>This kid is a Prima Donna, a regular princess.  </p>
<p>This diva can be seen in that video kicking away with his legs.  The chump!</p>
<p>&#8220;Don&#8217;t Touch me!!!&#8221; he screamed.  Come on, you girly man!  Shut up, follow directions, and stop making a scene.</p>
<p>The enforcement personnel need more training.  Maybe next time they won&#8217;t allow a chump like this to dictate the scenario and control the situation.  Maybe next time the patrol personnel will act more decisively and take the chump away immediately, shut shutting off his opportunity to do his Broadway show.</p>
<p>This guy even got a standing ovation from observers who applaud him while demonizing the &#8220;officers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Instead of helping the officers by screaming at the guy &#8220;Shut up and do as your told, you trouble maker!  Get up and leave, and stop with the vitriolic pabulum about the Patriot Act!&#8221;</p>
<p>I truly believe that these babies are well trained in the school of &#8220;How to get the spotlight on yourself, and how to make yourself to be a victim and martyr&#8221; school of ethics.</p>
<p>William</p>
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		<title>By: darwin</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/17/video-the-obligatory-uclataser-post/comment-page-2/#comment-111827</link>
		<dc:creator>darwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 16:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Unnecessary use of force.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 


Nah ... more like an abuse of freedom on the jerks part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Unnecessary use of force.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nah &#8230; more like an abuse of freedom on the jerks part.</p>
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		<title>By: Coronagold</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/17/video-the-obligatory-uclataser-post/comment-page-2/#comment-111816</link>
		<dc:creator>Coronagold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 15:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They didn&#039;t taze his mouth shut? Reminds me of that Python skit &quot;I&#039;m being oppressed!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They didn&#8217;t taze his mouth shut? Reminds me of that Python skit &#8220;I&#8217;m being oppressed!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JackM</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/17/video-the-obligatory-uclataser-post/comment-page-2/#comment-111750</link>
		<dc:creator>JackM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who knew the Patriot Act could be so much fun?</description>
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		<title>By: Nonfactor</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/17/video-the-obligatory-uclataser-post/comment-page-2/#comment-111511</link>
		<dc:creator>Nonfactor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 05:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unnecessary use of force.</description>
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		<title>By: JackM</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/17/video-the-obligatory-uclataser-post/comment-page-2/#comment-111387</link>
		<dc:creator>JackM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 03:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What were the police supposed to do, stand there and watch this dope sprawl around on the floor all day? It was either taze the clown, or do a Rodney on his butt.

I say the loudmouthed loser got off easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What were the police supposed to do, stand there and watch this dope sprawl around on the floor all day? It was either taze the clown, or do a Rodney on his butt.</p>
<p>I say the loudmouthed loser got off easy.</p>
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		<title>By: JackM</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/17/video-the-obligatory-uclataser-post/comment-page-2/#comment-111386</link>
		<dc:creator>JackM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 03:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The dumb bastard should have stood up.

Very entertaining.</description>
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		<title>By: dougless</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/17/video-the-obligatory-uclataser-post/comment-page-2/#comment-111326</link>
		<dc:creator>dougless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 02:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The kid got everything he deserved.</description>
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		<title>By: AZ_Redneck</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/17/video-the-obligatory-uclataser-post/comment-page-2/#comment-111239</link>
		<dc:creator>AZ_Redneck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 00:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tantor:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Hmmm. I’ve stopped and thought about it for a moment. …&lt;/blockquote&gt;

From the video, I was unable to discern what occurred when the kid received the initial tase/stun.  Speculation, but perhaps it was required to stop some particular action, say, assaulting the officer or another student.  However, I am referring to a point where I believe the kid had cuffs on.  Somewhere in that sequence I heard (paraphrase), “get up or you will get tased again”.  He was.  That is where I question subsequent action.

&lt;blockquote&gt;As for saying that the cops had no right to touch the jerk …&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I never said “the cops had no right to touch” the kid.  However, the situation was handled poorly.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I guess the university has no right to exclude non-students from their facilities. …&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You are forming ludicrous knee-jerk extrapolations.  I will just blip over.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Why don’t you go tell it to the fifty-nine police officers who died saving people in the World Trade Center on Sep 11? I guess they never heard about the no duty clause.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What those officers performed was above and beyond the call.  At risk to their own lives they attempted to save others.  They are commended by any individual that still has a heart.  They saw other humans in peril and acted.

If a citizen were being stalked by someone, does the state have a statutory obligation to protect that person from harm?  No.  If harm does come to that person, the state does have an obligation to investigate and determine if a law was broken.  If so, they will follow up with the process …

Crime exists because citizens have bought into the false notion that someone else will protect them.  That is, citizens let it happen.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I have watched many a lefty throw snowballs, potted plants, and pop cans at the police at “peace” marches here in DC without any repercussions whatsoever. …&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have observed similar situations in AZ with the Reconquista demonstrations and other related activity.  Clearly in a couple instances, laws were broken, but for some unknown reason, there was no enforcement.  Based on what I was able to gather, I believe it was a decision rooted in political correctness.  I would gather more so in your area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tantor:</p>
<blockquote><p>Hmmm. I’ve stopped and thought about it for a moment. …</p></blockquote>
<p>From the video, I was unable to discern what occurred when the kid received the initial tase/stun.  Speculation, but perhaps it was required to stop some particular action, say, assaulting the officer or another student.  However, I am referring to a point where I believe the kid had cuffs on.  Somewhere in that sequence I heard (paraphrase), “get up or you will get tased again”.  He was.  That is where I question subsequent action.</p>
<blockquote><p>As for saying that the cops had no right to touch the jerk …</p></blockquote>
<p>I never said “the cops had no right to touch” the kid.  However, the situation was handled poorly.</p>
<blockquote><p>I guess the university has no right to exclude non-students from their facilities. …</p></blockquote>
<p>You are forming ludicrous knee-jerk extrapolations.  I will just blip over.</p>
<blockquote><p>Why don’t you go tell it to the fifty-nine police officers who died saving people in the World Trade Center on Sep 11? I guess they never heard about the no duty clause.</p></blockquote>
<p>What those officers performed was above and beyond the call.  At risk to their own lives they attempted to save others.  They are commended by any individual that still has a heart.  They saw other humans in peril and acted.</p>
<p>If a citizen were being stalked by someone, does the state have a statutory obligation to protect that person from harm?  No.  If harm does come to that person, the state does have an obligation to investigate and determine if a law was broken.  If so, they will follow up with the process …</p>
<p>Crime exists because citizens have bought into the false notion that someone else will protect them.  That is, citizens let it happen.</p>
<blockquote><p>I have watched many a lefty throw snowballs, potted plants, and pop cans at the police at “peace” marches here in DC without any repercussions whatsoever. …</p></blockquote>
<p>I have observed similar situations in AZ with the Reconquista demonstrations and other related activity.  Clearly in a couple instances, laws were broken, but for some unknown reason, there was no enforcement.  Based on what I was able to gather, I believe it was a decision rooted in political correctness.  I would gather more so in your area.</p>
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		<title>By: insomni</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/17/video-the-obligatory-uclataser-post/comment-page-2/#comment-111214</link>
		<dc:creator>insomni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe, darwin, but I think some folks in a &lt;a href=&quot;http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/18/ucla-students-demonstrate-against-ucpd-taser-use/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;neighboring thread&lt;/a&gt; took some wind out of his sails, too. He has all the marks of a typical lib-troll, and logic is their Kryptonite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe, darwin, but I think some folks in a <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/18/ucla-students-demonstrate-against-ucpd-taser-use/" rel="nofollow">neighboring thread</a> took some wind out of his sails, too. He has all the marks of a typical lib-troll, and logic is their Kryptonite.</p>
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		<title>By: darwin</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/17/video-the-obligatory-uclataser-post/comment-page-2/#comment-111174</link>
		<dc:creator>darwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow insomni ... your logic seems to have vaporized Rusty.  Nice job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow insomni &#8230; your logic seems to have vaporized Rusty.  Nice job.</p>
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		<title>By: insomni</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/17/video-the-obligatory-uclataser-post/comment-page-2/#comment-111092</link>
		<dc:creator>insomni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take your &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;straw man&lt;/a&gt; and find somewhere else to play, Rusty. There&#039;s no connection between tasering a guy who is resisting police and causing a scene and tasering vagrants. 

Not that some bums shouldn&#039;t be zapped -- or at least taken off the streets -- such as the one my wife saw &lt;em&gt;completely&lt;/em&gt; naked in downtown Chicago. He was casually dressing at State &amp; Randolph and was not arrested. Anyway, that&#039;s off-topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take your <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man" rel="nofollow">straw man</a> and find somewhere else to play, Rusty. There&#8217;s no connection between tasering a guy who is resisting police and causing a scene and tasering vagrants. </p>
<p>Not that some bums shouldn&#8217;t be zapped &#8212; or at least taken off the streets &#8212; such as the one my wife saw <em>completely</em> naked in downtown Chicago. He was casually dressing at State &amp; Randolph and was not arrested. Anyway, that&#8217;s off-topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Freelancer</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/17/video-the-obligatory-uclataser-post/comment-page-2/#comment-111074</link>
		<dc:creator>Freelancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 21:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rustyw, your massive amount of university education hasn&#039;t served you so well, perhaps you should ask for a refund.

The taser shots weren&#039;t punitive, they were motivational. Much less damage was done to the perp than would have been done had they attempted to drag/carry him out, and he surely wouldn&#039;t have continued shouting had they employed the full force available to the taser. A taser so used is much better described as a tool than a weapon.

The campus police didn&#039;t initiate the situation, but they are responsible to control it once on hand. They made ONE DEMAND, that he leave the library. His refusal requires a response. Agree or disagree about degree of response, he brought a response on himself.

Any comment that includes phrases such as &quot;without ID&quot; need to consider that this STUDENT most likely had valid ID. If that is true, his refusal to show it was a malicious move intended to create the scene. Again, he is responsible for his actions and their consequences.

If he is a current valid student at UCLA, then he is accountable for campus standards and regulations of behavior. His choice to violate those standards as a political protest against the Patriot Act are quite far-fetched. Let&#039;s see if you have a clue...

&lt;blockquote&gt;Bottom line, is this provision of the patriot act needed to keep us safe from terror? (the controversial provision of the Patriot Act which provides for repeated tasing of any students who are slow to leave a university library.)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Seriously, when you snatched that sentence from &lt;a href=&quot;http://patterico.com/2006/11/17/5405/student-protests-patriot-act/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Patterico&lt;/a&gt;&#039;s comments, did you not know he was being facetious, pulling the perp&#039;s chain, as it were?

Patterico&#039;s entire point is that the student is a complete idiot in trying to link the campus police response to the Patriot Act. Too subtle for you, I see. Maybe a couple more years in class then, and you&#039;ll have all the nuance you need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rustyw, your massive amount of university education hasn&#8217;t served you so well, perhaps you should ask for a refund.</p>
<p>The taser shots weren&#8217;t punitive, they were motivational. Much less damage was done to the perp than would have been done had they attempted to drag/carry him out, and he surely wouldn&#8217;t have continued shouting had they employed the full force available to the taser. A taser so used is much better described as a tool than a weapon.</p>
<p>The campus police didn&#8217;t initiate the situation, but they are responsible to control it once on hand. They made ONE DEMAND, that he leave the library. His refusal requires a response. Agree or disagree about degree of response, he brought a response on himself.</p>
<p>Any comment that includes phrases such as &#8220;without ID&#8221; need to consider that this STUDENT most likely had valid ID. If that is true, his refusal to show it was a malicious move intended to create the scene. Again, he is responsible for his actions and their consequences.</p>
<p>If he is a current valid student at UCLA, then he is accountable for campus standards and regulations of behavior. His choice to violate those standards as a political protest against the Patriot Act are quite far-fetched. Let&#8217;s see if you have a clue&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Bottom line, is this provision of the patriot act needed to keep us safe from terror? (the controversial provision of the Patriot Act which provides for repeated tasing of any students who are slow to leave a university library.)</p></blockquote>
<p>Seriously, when you snatched that sentence from <a href="http://patterico.com/2006/11/17/5405/student-protests-patriot-act/" rel="nofollow">Patterico</a>&#8216;s comments, did you not know he was being facetious, pulling the perp&#8217;s chain, as it were?</p>
<p>Patterico&#8217;s entire point is that the student is a complete idiot in trying to link the campus police response to the Patriot Act. Too subtle for you, I see. Maybe a couple more years in class then, and you&#8217;ll have all the nuance you need.</p>
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		<title>By: Rustyw</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/17/video-the-obligatory-uclataser-post/comment-page-2/#comment-111041</link>
		<dc:creator>Rustyw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 21:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless,
I saw the statement in all three of the papers from the area. Anyway, the papers also explain why they were called, so we don&#039;t have to speculate. Just start with the Brun. Hey since everyone thinks it is such a great Idea, how about vagrants? Can we just start tasering them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless,<br />
I saw the statement in all three of the papers from the area. Anyway, the papers also explain why they were called, so we don&#8217;t have to speculate. Just start with the Brun. Hey since everyone thinks it is such a great Idea, how about vagrants? Can we just start tasering them?</p>
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		<title>By: darwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>darwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 21:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow that really doesn&#039;t sound like an objective report of what happened.  Just based on how he was primed and ready to start screaming &quot;Patriot Act!&quot; makes me doubt he was just some poor, passive student who happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.  These cops were called there for a reason ... by the library staff I believe.  Personally, I think it&#039;s a big ado about nothing.  People always questioning cops though.  Ever been a cop?  I haven&#039;t.  I know damn well they experience more stress in one week than I do all year yet for the most part act like professionals.  Same with the military.  Everyone who&#039;s never been in thinks they&#039;re a friggin&#039; expert when they don&#039;t have a clue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow that really doesn&#8217;t sound like an objective report of what happened.  Just based on how he was primed and ready to start screaming &#8220;Patriot Act!&#8221; makes me doubt he was just some poor, passive student who happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.  These cops were called there for a reason &#8230; by the library staff I believe.  Personally, I think it&#8217;s a big ado about nothing.  People always questioning cops though.  Ever been a cop?  I haven&#8217;t.  I know damn well they experience more stress in one week than I do all year yet for the most part act like professionals.  Same with the military.  Everyone who&#8217;s never been in thinks they&#8217;re a friggin&#8217; expert when they don&#8217;t have a clue.</p>
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		<title>By: Rustyw</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/17/video-the-obligatory-uclataser-post/comment-page-2/#comment-111021</link>
		<dc:creator>Rustyw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 20:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why again darwin?

Officers were escorting Tabatabainejad out of the computer lab when the trouble started, according to the Daily Bruin. One of the officers placed a hand on one of his arms, to which the student objected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why again darwin?</p>
<p>Officers were escorting Tabatabainejad out of the computer lab when the trouble started, according to the Daily Bruin. One of the officers placed a hand on one of his arms, to which the student objected.</p>
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		<title>By: Rustyw</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/17/video-the-obligatory-uclataser-post/comment-page-2/#comment-111020</link>
		<dc:creator>Rustyw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 20:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NBC4 News
Officers were escorting Tabatabainejad out of the computer lab when the trouble started, according to the Daily Bruin. One of the officers placed a hand on one of his arms, to which the student objected.

As a second officer approached, he repeatedly yelled &quot;get off of me,&quot; the newspaper reported.

It was then that one of the officers shot Tabatabainejad with a stun gun, dropping him to the floor as he cried out, according to the newspaper.

&quot;Any student who witnessed it was left with an image you don&#039;t want to remember,&quot; said a witness who asked not to be identified.

When asked whether the student resisted when officer attempted to escort him from the building, the witness said, &quot;In the beginning, no. But when they were holding onto him and they were on the ground, he was trying to just break free. He was saying, &#039;I&#039;m leaving, I&#039;m leaving.&#039; It was so disturbing to watch that I cannot be concise on that. I can just say that he was willing to leave. He had his backpack on his shoulder and he was walking out when the cops approached him. It was unnecessary.&quot;

Greenstein said a Community Service Officer employed by the library was performing a nightly check to ensure that all patrons using the library after 11 p.m. were authorized to be there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NBC4 News<br />
Officers were escorting Tabatabainejad out of the computer lab when the trouble started, according to the Daily Bruin. One of the officers placed a hand on one of his arms, to which the student objected.</p>
<p>As a second officer approached, he repeatedly yelled &#8220;get off of me,&#8221; the newspaper reported.</p>
<p>It was then that one of the officers shot Tabatabainejad with a stun gun, dropping him to the floor as he cried out, according to the newspaper.</p>
<p>&#8220;Any student who witnessed it was left with an image you don&#8217;t want to remember,&#8221; said a witness who asked not to be identified.</p>
<p>When asked whether the student resisted when officer attempted to escort him from the building, the witness said, &#8220;In the beginning, no. But when they were holding onto him and they were on the ground, he was trying to just break free. He was saying, &#8216;I&#8217;m leaving, I&#8217;m leaving.&#8217; It was so disturbing to watch that I cannot be concise on that. I can just say that he was willing to leave. He had his backpack on his shoulder and he was walking out when the cops approached him. It was unnecessary.&#8221;</p>
<p>Greenstein said a Community Service Officer employed by the library was performing a nightly check to ensure that all patrons using the library after 11 p.m. were authorized to be there.</p>
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		<title>By: Rustyw</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/17/video-the-obligatory-uclataser-post/comment-page-2/#comment-111014</link>
		<dc:creator>Rustyw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 20:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LA Times
&quot;It was beyond grotesque,&quot; said UCLA graduate David Remesnitsky of Los Angeles, who witnessed the incident. &quot;By the end they took him over the stairs, lifted him up and Tasered him on his rear end. It seemed like it was inappropriately placed. The Tasering was so unnecessary and they just kept doing it.&quot;

Campus police confirmed that Tabatabainejad was stunned &quot;multiple&quot; times.

By then, Remesnitsky said, a crowd of 50 or 60 had gathered and were shouting at the officers to stop and demanding their names and badge numbers.

Remesnitsky said officers told him to leave or he would be Tasered.

Tabatabainejad declined to comment. He was arrested Tuesday night and cited by campus police for resisting and obstructing a police officer and was released.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LA Times<br />
&#8220;It was beyond grotesque,&#8221; said UCLA graduate David Remesnitsky of Los Angeles, who witnessed the incident. &#8220;By the end they took him over the stairs, lifted him up and Tasered him on his rear end. It seemed like it was inappropriately placed. The Tasering was so unnecessary and they just kept doing it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Campus police confirmed that Tabatabainejad was stunned &#8220;multiple&#8221; times.</p>
<p>By then, Remesnitsky said, a crowd of 50 or 60 had gathered and were shouting at the officers to stop and demanding their names and badge numbers.</p>
<p>Remesnitsky said officers told him to leave or he would be Tasered.</p>
<p>Tabatabainejad declined to comment. He was arrested Tuesday night and cited by campus police for resisting and obstructing a police officer and was released.</p>
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		<title>By: Rustyw</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/17/video-the-obligatory-uclataser-post/comment-page-2/#comment-111005</link>
		<dc:creator>Rustyw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 20:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well,
What dose the daily Brun say?
http://dailybruin.com/news/articles.asp?id=38960

Tabatabainejad was walking with his backpack toward the door when he was approached by two UCPD officers, one of whom grabbed the student&#039;s arm. In response, Tabatabainejad yelled at the officers to &quot;get off me.&quot; Following this demand, Tabatabainejad was stunned with a Taser.
But according to a study published in the Lancet Medical Journal in 2001, a charge of three to five seconds can result in immobilization for five to 15 minutes, which would mean that Tabatabainejad could have been physically unable to stand when the officers demanded that he do so.
Tabatabainejad was also stunned with the Taser when he was already handcuffed, said Carlos Zaragoza, a third-year English and history student who witnessed the incident. 

&quot;(He was) no possible danger to any of the police,&quot; Zaragoza said. &quot;(He was) getting shocked and Tasered as he was handcuffed.&quot; 

But Young said at the time the police likely had no way of knowing whether the individual was armed or that he was a student.
During the altercation between Tabatabainejad and the officers, bystanders can be heard in the video repeatedly asking the officers to stop and requesting their names and identification numbers. The video showed one officer responding to a student by threatening that the student would &quot;get Tased too.&quot; At this point, the officer was still holding a Taser. 

Such a threat of the use of force by a law enforcement officer in response to a request for a badge number is an &quot;illegal assault,&quot; Eliasberg said. 

&quot;It is absolutely illegal to threaten anyone who asks for a badge â€&quot; that&#039;s assault,&quot; he said.
Neither the video footage nor eyewitness accounts of the events confirmed that Tabatabainejad encouraged resistance, and he repeatedly told the officers he was not fighting and would leave.
The incident, which Zaragoza described as an example of &quot;police brutality,&quot; left many students disturbed. 

&quot;I realize when looking at these kind of arrest tapes that they don&#039;t always show the full picture. ... But that six minutes that we can watch just seems like it&#039;s a ridiculous amount of force for someone being escorted because they forgot their BruinCard,&quot; said Ali Ghandour, a fourth-year anthropology student. 

&quot;It certainly makes you wonder if something as small as forgetting your BruinCard can eventually lead to getting Tased several times in front of the library,&quot; he added. 

Edouard Tchertchian, a third-year mathematics student, said he was concerned that the student was not offered any other means of showing that he was a UCLA student.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,<br />
What dose the daily Brun say?<br />
<a href="http://dailybruin.com/news/articles.asp?id=38960" rel="nofollow">http://dailybruin.com/news/articles.asp?id=38960</a></p>
<p>Tabatabainejad was walking with his backpack toward the door when he was approached by two UCPD officers, one of whom grabbed the student&#8217;s arm. In response, Tabatabainejad yelled at the officers to &#8220;get off me.&#8221; Following this demand, Tabatabainejad was stunned with a Taser.<br />
But according to a study published in the Lancet Medical Journal in 2001, a charge of three to five seconds can result in immobilization for five to 15 minutes, which would mean that Tabatabainejad could have been physically unable to stand when the officers demanded that he do so.<br />
Tabatabainejad was also stunned with the Taser when he was already handcuffed, said Carlos Zaragoza, a third-year English and history student who witnessed the incident. </p>
<p>&#8220;(He was) no possible danger to any of the police,&#8221; Zaragoza said. &#8220;(He was) getting shocked and Tasered as he was handcuffed.&#8221; </p>
<p>But Young said at the time the police likely had no way of knowing whether the individual was armed or that he was a student.<br />
During the altercation between Tabatabainejad and the officers, bystanders can be heard in the video repeatedly asking the officers to stop and requesting their names and identification numbers. The video showed one officer responding to a student by threatening that the student would &#8220;get Tased too.&#8221; At this point, the officer was still holding a Taser. </p>
<p>Such a threat of the use of force by a law enforcement officer in response to a request for a badge number is an &#8220;illegal assault,&#8221; Eliasberg said. </p>
<p>&#8220;It is absolutely illegal to threaten anyone who asks for a badge â€&#8221; that&#8217;s assault,&#8221; he said.<br />
Neither the video footage nor eyewitness accounts of the events confirmed that Tabatabainejad encouraged resistance, and he repeatedly told the officers he was not fighting and would leave.<br />
The incident, which Zaragoza described as an example of &#8220;police brutality,&#8221; left many students disturbed. </p>
<p>&#8220;I realize when looking at these kind of arrest tapes that they don&#8217;t always show the full picture. &#8230; But that six minutes that we can watch just seems like it&#8217;s a ridiculous amount of force for someone being escorted because they forgot their BruinCard,&#8221; said Ali Ghandour, a fourth-year anthropology student. </p>
<p>&#8220;It certainly makes you wonder if something as small as forgetting your BruinCard can eventually lead to getting Tased several times in front of the library,&#8221; he added. </p>
<p>Edouard Tchertchian, a third-year mathematics student, said he was concerned that the student was not offered any other means of showing that he was a UCLA student.</p>
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