Soothsayer

Care to give some links for your accusations or are we all to take your word for it.

You are making some pretty harsh accusations. ScottyDog on November 17, 2006 at 12:35

Scotty google the trial transcripts. I was writing a paper on media bias at the time so I watched and virtually memorized every moment of the trial. Here’s another stunner for you, not that I think it in anyway casts doubts on my opinion that he is guilty, but, Susan Brockbank(sic?) of the LAPD crime lab actually blew up the prosecutions weak mewlings about how, “the glove must’ve shrunk” when she testified that at the time of her examination, POST DEMONSTRATION, the gloves were actually LARGER than when first examined! And did you know that the drop of Simpson’s blood on the back gate at Bundy, contained a substance called EDTA, a preservative used to preserve blood in BLOOD VIALS? Which would strongly indicate that it was placed there after O.J had given them SAMPLES of his blood? Did you know that this testimony was UNREFUTED at trial? There’s a lot you don’t know, trust me. But the so-called stupid Jury DID. They were there for every bombshell that the media chose to ignore. I know this because I was on the phone with CHANNEL 5′S Marta Waller (sic) when the Susan Brockbank testimony about the glove size was given. I found it strange that Marta didn’t lead with this bombshell that clearly destroyed the prosecutions weak assertion about “glove shrinkage”. She told me she ignored it because of what the prosecution WOULD say. Not HAD said, WOULD say. Even though they had to virtually “cross” their own witness and still they couldn’t shake her testimony Marta preferred to go to commercial talking about a hair and trace examination from the morning. As I said before, none of this in my mind, shakes my opinion about Simpson’s guilt. My opinion comes from things about the case that you all were never privvy to, however, but I would certainly understand a jury that ACTUALLY paid attention, unlike those of you who are wondering where my “quotes” came from, would arrive at the conclusion that they did. You had cops caught in THREE obvious frames.
1. The BLOOD ON THE BACK GATE WITH THE PRESERVATIVE IN IT.
2. The BLOOD on the sock that mysteriously LEAKED THROUGH ALL FOUR SIDES OF THE SOCK ON THE FLOOR. Just like it would if you dripped blood on a folded sock and it seeped through. Hard to do however IF YOU FOOT IS IN THE SOCK AS YOU’RE KILLING FOLKS, HOWEVER.
3. The glove found at O.J’s house which NOT ONLY DIDN’T FIT, but Furhman and Vannatter were caught in lies about how they actually discovered it.

Sooo a jury that’ been alive in America, some of them since the fifties where fixing a trial and planting evidence on blacks was the rule of thumb, could quite legitimately be swayed by such strong evidence of police corruption.

A SOOTHSAYER APOLOGY.
Please fogive me for getting LAURA MCKINNEY’S name wrong. She is the AUTHOR that Furhman spoke to. KATHLEEN BELL was the FRIEND of Furhman’s with whom he confided about his penchant for planting evidence on blacks. My bad. Here’s one link which recounts some of the incidents on the tapes.

A letter from Kathleen Bell, sent to Simpson’s defense team, described what Fuhrman had told her: “When he sees a `n*gger’ (as he called it) driving with a white woman, he would pull them over. I asked, would he if he didn’t have a reason, and he said that he would find one.”

Yet, after all this, TV commentators still constantly ask, “What would be the motive for framing OJ Simpson?” They deliberately ignore and hide that the evidence documents Detective Fuhrman’s special hatred for Black men (like Simpson) who drove expensive cars, moved into privileged white neighborhoods, and dated white women.

This is what Furhman said to some of the questions on those tapes….

On the arrest of a man in the Westwood neighborhood

“He was a n*gger. He didn’t belong. Two questions. And you are going: Where do you live? 22nd and Western. Where were you going? Well, I’m going to Fatburger. Where’s Fatburger. He didn’t know where Fatburger was? Get in the car.”

On criteria for stopping cars

“N*gger drivin’ a Porsche that doesn’t look like he’s got a $300 suit on, you always stop him.”

On where he grew up in Washington state

“People there don’t want n*ggers in their town. People there don’t want Mexicans in their town. They don’t want anybody but good people in their town, and anyway you can do to get them out of there that’s fine with them. We have no n*ggers where I grew up.”

On L.A. neighborhoods

“Westwood is gone, the n*ggers have discovered it. When they start moving into Redondo and Torrance. Torrance is considered the last white middle class society.”

On the LAPD chokehold

“We stopped the choke because a bunch of n*ggers have a bunch of these organizations in the south end and because all n*ggers were choked out and killed–twelve in ten years.”

On changes in the LAPD

“That we’ve got females…and dumb n*ggers, and all your Mexicans that can’t even write the name of the car they drive.”

On using suspects to practice martial arts kicks

“I used to go to work and practice movements….I used to practice my kicks.

On police misconduct investigations

“Now, it’s funny because guys in Internal Affairs go, `Mark, you can do just about anything. Get in a bar fight. We’d love to investigate just some `good ol boy’ beating up a n*gger in a bar.”

On brutalizing suspects during interrogations

“Why don’t you give them the 77th lie detector test? [The "77th" refers to the LAPD division in South Central L.A. where Fuhrman worked for many years]…And a bunch of guys will laugh–old timers, you know. And then one kid will ask his partner, `what’s that?’ You choke him out until he tells you the truth. You know it is kind of funny. But a lot of policemen will get a kick out of it.”

On attitude toward interrogating Black people

“When you are talking to somebody it is not like you are really listening into their words because you will key on what is the truth and what isn’t. First thing, anything out of a n*gger’s mouth for the first five or six sentences is a fucking lie. That is just right out. There has got to be a reason why he is going to tell you the truth.”

On the destruction of the 77th precinct station

“Leave that old station. Man, it has the smell of n*ggers that have been beaten and killed in there for years.”

On taking a suspect “to the baseball diamond.”

“We basically get impatient with him being so fucking stupid. Which I thought he was. So I just handcuffed him and went the scenic route to the station. We searched him again and found the gun. Went over to the baseball diamond and talked to him. When I left, Dana goes, `No blood, Mark.’ `No problem, not even any marks, Dana.’ Just body shots. Did you ever try to find a bruise on a N*gger. It is pretty tough, huh?

On assuming guilt and shooting suspects in the back

“Where would this country be if every time a sheriff went out with a posse to find somebody who just robbed and killed a bunch of people, he stopped and talked to them first. To make sure they had guns. Tried to take them–they shot them in the back. We still should be shooting people in the back. It’s just that you’ve got to hire people who are capable of doing it. And capable of figuring out who the bad guys are.

On assuming guilt and fabricating reasons for making an arrest

Fuhrman: “I didn’t arrest him under anything, just took him to the station, ran him for prints, gave them to the detectives to compare with what they’ve got in the area. I’ll probably arrest a criminal that way.”

McKinny: “So you’re allowed to pick somebody up that you think doesn’t belong in an area and arrest him?…

Fuhrman: “I don’t know. I don’t know what the Supreme Court or the Superior Court says, and I don’t really give a shit…If I was pushed into saying why I did it, I’d say suspicion of burglary. I’d be able to correlate exactly what I said into a reasonably probable cause for arrest.”

On falsifying evidence

“So if that’s considered falsifying a report, and if some hype [junkie], you know says, ah, you know whatever, I shot [up] two days ago, and you find a mark that looks like three days ago, pick the scab, squeeze it, looks like serum’s coming out. As if it were hours old. It’s a hard find. You just can’t find the mark. Cause he’s down. His eyes don’t lie. That’s not falsifying a report. That’s putting a criminal in jail. That’s being a policeman.”

On brutalizing people for speaking Spanish

“We don’t speak Spanish here. Work Mexican gangs, and I don’t know how to speak any Spanish…When they speak Spanish. `No comprende.’ Slap them upside the head. Then they speak English. I’m an English teacher. Just like that. That’s police work. And that’s being able to pick out the people. That type of treatment is necessary…”

On conduct when working in a Black neighborhood

“You have to be a switch hitter. You have to be able to look at your area and look at how you talk to people. Look at how you deal with things and what you can and can’t do even with a criminal. You can’t go up in Bel Air, and some guy gives you a hard time in broad daylight, and slap them. `Dammit. I want to know what’s going on.’ You just don’t do that. I mean, it’s obvious. But when you work down in the south end, Watts, the metropolitan area, you work skid row. You use your stick more than your mouth. You don’t–I mean, you just, you go of course. Don’t try to tell people to go there. Go there. You just use your stick. Smack ‘em. They’ll move. They see no problem with that. They’re where they are not supposed to be….”

Fuhrman also describes an incident in an East L.A. housing project where he and other police officers kicked the door down.

“We grabbed a girl that lived there–one of their girlfriends. Grabbed her by the hair and stuck a gun to her head and used her as a barricade. Walked up and told ‘em. `I’ve got this girl. I’ll blow her fuckin’ brains out if you come out with a gun.’ Held her like this. Threw the b*tch down the stairs. Deadbolted the door. Let’s play boys…Anyway, we basically tortured them. There was four policemen and four guys. We broke ‘em. Numerous bones in each one of them. Their faces were just mush. They had pictures on the walls. There was blood all the way to the ceiling with finger marks like they were trying to crawl out of the room. They showed us pictures of the room. It was unbelievable. There was blood everywhere. All the walls. All the furniture. All the floors. It was just everywhere….So with 66 allegations, I had a demonstration out in front of Hollenbeck station chanting my name. Captain had to take them all into roll call and that’s where the internal affairs investigation started. It lasted 18 months. I was on a photo lineup–suspect lineup. I was picked out by 12 people. So I was pretty proud of that….They didn’t get any of our unit–38 guys–they didn’t get one day. I didn’t get one day…. Immediately after we beat those guys, we went downstairs to the garden hose in the back of the place. We washed our hands–we had blood all over our legs….Well, they know I did it. They know damn well I did it. There’s nothing they can do about it because we all, most of those guys work 77th together. We came in as gang unit. We were tight. I mean we could have murdered people and got away with it. We were tight. We all knew what to say. We didn’t have to call each other at home and say, `Okay.’ We all knew what to say…”

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If you read the trial transcript you can assure yourselves that these quotes are accurate. It might also behoove you to read Laura McKinney’s testimony, especially the part where she is asked whether or not Furhman was ACTING or PLAYING A ROLE. Had she thought that, she never would have gone out of her way to contact the defense and tell them that Furhman was a liar, she didn’t know Simpson and she had nothing to gain.

Soothsayer on November 17, 2006 at 2:18 AM