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Get off the fence people. This is your last chance.

seejanemom on November 16, 2006 at 8:11 AM

America is quickly becoming one of the easiest to attack countries in history (By terrorists). What other society has been so ready to give our enemies a free pass to keep striking us again. Our enemies must be laughing themselves to sleep at night. Soon, you will not be able to even question the motives of a terrorist. How dare we question their motives.
Too bad too. I always had hope for this nation.

hoosierken on November 16, 2006 at 8:41 AM

I agree with Pelosi. We shouldn’t even check the bags of anyone even appearing to be of middle eastern decent. Instead, nationl security will better be served if we cavity search the elderly before bording. Not.

jman on November 16, 2006 at 8:45 AM

When will she ever get that cavity search on her Gulf Stream? All that fossil fuel and privacy….the party of THE PEOPLE…

seejanemom on November 16, 2006 at 8:52 AM

Of course Fancy Nancy and Jerky John have nothing against unwarranted searches of prima facie harmless people. This shows that those with suspect behavior are hassled to a lesser degree than the general populace and that no discrimination exists. No, I am NOT making this up. It is another legacy of Naughty Norm Mineta, one eagerly embraced by all those desperate to show their good intentions—-which nowadays usually translates as craving dhimmitude.

Mystery of the ages: How come survivial of the good and the elimination of evil are no longer considered “good intentions”?

Oilpatcher on November 16, 2006 at 8:55 AM

When will she ever get that cavity search on her Gulf Stream?

Probably Never. Who would volunteer? Murtha may owe her one…

jman on November 16, 2006 at 8:58 AM

One other thought: We will survive all this homefront nonsense PROVIDED that the bad guys do not get that orient (mideastern) based caliphate. Having that inviolate base of operations is their sine qua non. Without it, they are of nuisance value only, albeit somewhat lethal nuisances.
As long as we are in Iraq, the caliphate is impossible. ‘Nuff said.

Oilpatcher on November 16, 2006 at 9:00 AM

…and who will bear the fault of the next 9/11?

Bush of course.

…and the next?

Bush of course?

…and the next?

Bush of course?

…and the next?

irishsquid on November 16, 2006 at 9:10 AM

irishsqid - Are you saying that the Dems will let 4 more 9/11s happen before they wave the white flag? They won’t let more than 2 before they adopt Sharia law.

steveegg on November 16, 2006 at 9:14 AM

What is she, stupid or something? Madame Botox please, get a C-L-U-E!

bloggless on November 16, 2006 at 9:14 AM

Help me understand. This is serious folks.

I’m not giving up my weapons to these EVIL, EVIL co-conspirators. When the Left starts its infernal gun-control rants, STAND STRONG.

A cache buried in the hills will be our LITERAL LAST DEFENSE against these equivocating monsters and their Sharia buddies.

Think about that. Having to LITERALLY DEFEND YOUR HOME. Might ruin a night at the Mall, or your ski trip, but we have to FACE THIS AS A REALITY.

Who saw Glenn Beck last night?

seejanemom on November 16, 2006 at 9:20 AM

They won’t let more than 2 before they adopt Sharia law.

You’re right. I sometimes forget donkeys are invertebrates.

irishsquid on November 16, 2006 at 9:23 AM

i don’t get it. I just don’t get it. How is it that she can’t see the enormous consequences of this?

oh, I saw Glenn Beck. That show was incredible.

pullingmyhairout on November 16, 2006 at 9:24 AM

i don’t get it. I just don’t get it. How is it that she can’t see the enormous consequences of this?

oh, I saw Glenn Beck. That show was incredible.

pullingmyhairout on November 16, 2006 at 9:24 AM

The enormous consequences won’t bother HER a bit.

Frankly they won’t bother Bushie, either. 2,000 acres with tax payer funded bodyguards for life buys a lot of peace and distance from the reality of the HELL THIS COUNTRY IS ABOUT TO FACE.

America is in a coma.

seejanemom on November 16, 2006 at 9:38 AM

Hmmm. From what I see here, we had all better to remember to bow whenever we face East.

Remember, since Islam is perhaps the fastest growing religion in the world, Nancy wants to make nice with for the sake of votes. It is the Dems view of the world that puts us in danger.

BTW-I have seen that some of you saw the Glenn Beck special. I tried to get it last night, but it was not broadcast here. What channels/stations did you all see it on and in what states?

The False Dervish on November 16, 2006 at 9:39 AM

It was on cable. On CNN HEADLINE NEWS. Not reguar CNN. I am CERTAIN HE WILL OFFER IT ON DVD…Check his site.

seejanemom on November 16, 2006 at 9:48 AM

He is live on the radio right now, so check his site for where you can tune in to him. He is the only one who is GETTING IT…..

seejanemom on November 16, 2006 at 9:49 AM

Being afraid of being labelled a “bigot” is going to get all of us killed.

labwrs on November 16, 2006 at 9:56 AM

Spencer, as have many others, mentioned the cry of “Allahu Akbar” at Keith Ellison’s victory celebration. I think Ellison can easily talk up a pass on that one. My concern was the accompanying cry of “takfir!”

From what I’ve been able to glean, this phrase of “excommunication”, when used as a call-to-action, started as a cry for elimination of non-muslim elements from muslim governments. But among some “takfiris”, it seems to be a call to jihad against all those who deviate from islam. If true, this would seem much more important as a sentiment among his supporters than the “Allahu Akbar!” call. Anybody out there know for sure about its use here?

eeyore on November 16, 2006 at 10:07 AM

He is live on the radio right now, so check his site for where you can tune in to him. He is the only one who is GETTING IT…..

He’s on XM Radio channel 165. Philly’s WPHT carries his show and streams live. Or you can shell out to be an “Insider” and watch his radio broadcast live on the web from his site.

Pablo on November 16, 2006 at 10:09 AM

Being afraid of being labelled a “bigot” is going to get all of us killed.

labwrs on November 16, 2006 at 9:56 AM

GET A SPINE. AND BE PROUD OF IT.IT MAY SAVE YOUR VERY LIFE.

seejanemom on November 16, 2006 at 10:23 AM

“keep checking the mail” pretty funny. Somehow I don’t think that invitation’s coming, Mr Spencer.

jdpaz on November 16, 2006 at 10:25 AM

Its the lefty “Hate Crime” crap that Europe is having to deal with….

Sorry, but this will be an affront to both Freedom of Speech, and the establishment clause….

The whole hate crime idea is so AntiAmerican its pathetic… since when can excercising your freedom of speech, while not incicting to violence, be a crime?

Can you say… thought Police??? Its already happening in our school system.

Romeo13 on November 16, 2006 at 10:30 AM

Acctually, seejanemon, a lot of people get it. Just among those I hear about - Rush, Hannity, Hugh Hewitt, Mark Levin, Frank Gaffney (Center for Security Policy), Claudia Rossett (Foundation for the Defense of Democracies), Wayne Kopping (Obsession: The Movie See it! Spread it around!), John Bolton, Mark Steyn, Tony Blankley, Theodore Dalrymple, everyone in the Glenn Beck and other specials - Walid Shoebat, Brigitte Gabriel, Wafa Sultan, Daniel Pipes, etc., etc. - and that’s just a start, with minimum coffee.

The problem is, none of them is Speaker of the House, and none of them puts Global Warming or minimum wage at the top of their list of the priorities that are comforting to so many people who are too afraid of the thought that they might have to fight for their very lives…..here.

eeyore on November 16, 2006 at 10:32 AM

Maybe someone out there can answer this question. I travel regualrly through this country, through JFK, IAH, AUS, and many others. I have seen many muslims at these airports. Not once have I seen one looked at closely by those unionized TSA employees. Instead, being a white male, I am patted down all of the time. To add insult t injury, on the loudspeaker at the airports, a recording says to “not make complaints about security procedures.” (Paraphrased) Has anyone witnessed this extra scrutiny for the members of the “religion of peace?”

anetmabo on November 16, 2006 at 10:36 AM

I don’t understand her position.

If it walks like a duck,
Quacks like a duck,
Punishes raped women like a duck,
Kills homosexuals like a duck,
Keeps women subservient like a duck,
Straps on a bomb and blows up random civilians like a duck,
Hijacks airplanes and kills passengers or crashes them into buildings like a duck,
Promotes wiping entire countries and ethnic groups off the map like a duck,
Believes that 60% of American forces in Iraq are legitimate targets like a duck,
Has no interest in melting into diverse society like a duck,
Thinks it’s perfectly fine to dress their young children in jihad or suicide bomber vests like a duck,

It might just be a duck.

But hey, what do I know?

natesnake on November 16, 2006 at 10:37 AM

We need to profile Botox users from now on for aiding and abetting the enemy.

infidel on November 16, 2006 at 10:41 AM

Don’t fight it people. Turn that lemon into lemonade.

Take me for instance. I’m opening up a chain of prayer-rug stores called Crazy Nate’s Prayer Rug Emporium. You’ve got to be proactive and embrace the otherness. Jesus was OK, but Allah is so 21st Century. Climb aboard the train. Next stop, Paradise!

On a side note, since my induction into the Democratic Hive (trademark pending), my warts have vanished and morning poop smells like honeysuckle.

Thanks Democratic Hive! Who knew it could be so good?!

natesnake on November 16, 2006 at 10:49 AM

al-Qaeda in the Land Between Two Oceans?

RedWinged Blackbird on November 16, 2006 at 10:54 AM

The problem is, none of them is Speaker of the House, and none of them puts Global Warming or minimum wage at the top of their list of the priorities that are comforting to so many people who are too afraid of the thought that they might have to fight for their very lives…..here.

eeyore on November 16, 2006 at 10:32 AM

You are, right of course, my friend (I know you ;). I FULLY AND TRULY expect to be hiding in the hills within ten years. FULLY. (You are welcomed at my site anytime for some unvarnished truth…but I think I may have seen you there already..;)
Let the Elitists and the ignorant unwashed slog it out…Montana, anyone? I’m done. Ill take my Marine, my children who are already expert shots and disappear.

seejanemom on November 16, 2006 at 10:56 AM

Great Vent! This reporting is so essential to understanding the environment we are in, and provides reporting and commentary not available on the MSM with it’s bias to the Left.

What the United States is unity, common values, and identification as American citizens. Multiculturalism is a weakness that erodes this unity.

This unity will not happen until after major disaster. Pearl Harbor and 9/11 were examples, ? and ?, aided by the Left, will bring us together. Unfortunately I believe this unavoidable and entirely predicable. There does not seem to be anything that those to the right of the Chamberlain Left can do about it.

What we can do, those that are to the right of the Chamberlain Left, is take advantage of this time by exhibiting good manners, clear thinking, rational discussion, fight the good fight, and provide an alternative to the Left when the next election comes. This vent is an excellent example of exactly what to do in this peace before the tribulation.

Great Vent Robert Spencer! More Please!

omegaram on November 16, 2006 at 10:59 AM

Crazy Nate’s Prayer Rug Emporium

Minnesota seems to have favorable demographics for a franchise. Im calling “Mr.” Ellison to see if a CAIR endorsement is available. Maybe Ellison could be in your commercials after Pelosi and crew force a cable distributer to p/u Al Jazeera English Channel.

infidel on November 16, 2006 at 11:00 AM

Maybe Ellison could be in your commercials after Pelosi and crew force a cable distributer to p/u Al Jazeera English Channel.

I’m way ahead of game infidel. I just bought stock in Al Jezeera International.

*fingers crossed*

Pay Dirt here I come!!!

natesnake on November 16, 2006 at 11:04 AM

Oh I forgot the Alahu Akkbahr. (Hopefully I will learn how to spell it before they off my head).

infidel on November 16, 2006 at 11:05 AM

I’m unhinged, aren’t I?

Need to adjust the meds….

seejanemom on November 16, 2006 at 11:10 AM

I need some advice.

I’ve got a couple gay neighbors next door. They’re really nice folk who always decorate their house during the holiday season. Candels, lights, pumpkins, hay bales, and a freshly groomed yard. Steve, an engineer, tudors my daughter with her calculas homework. They are swell fellas indeed.

My question is, do I go ahead and slaughter them and burn their house to the ground now, or do I wait for the otherness to take more of a hold?

I’m in a real pickle here. I’d hate to postpone the inevitable and at the same time look like a slacker to the Democratic Hive. No one wants to make The Hive angry.

Sincerely,

Strugling With Slaughter In Springfield

natesnake on November 16, 2006 at 11:14 AM

Thanks, Seejanemom.

I will check his sites.

The False Dervish on November 16, 2006 at 11:15 AM

Natesnake-is that comment supposed to be serious? Or should I rephrase..are you insane?

WriterMom on November 16, 2006 at 12:08 PM

By the way-Ellison has bailed out of the CAIR dinner and making a video appearance.

WriterMom on November 16, 2006 at 12:09 PM

“The terminator is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity or remorse or fear, and it absolutely will not stop ever until you are dead.” - Kyle Reece.

It’s only dialog from the movie ‘The Terminator’, but you get the idea. Obviously, these leftist utopian appeasement weasels don’t have a clue. God save the republic.

locomotivebreath1901 on November 16, 2006 at 12:27 PM

Natesnake-is that comment supposed to be serious?

Toungue planted firmly in cheek.

That’s what is disturbing about the Democratic Hive. It’s difficult to discern which is sarcastic and which is real.

PREPARE FOR THE NEW WORLD ORDER!

natesnake on November 16, 2006 at 12:39 PM

Takfirs are radical islamists who are not bound by the usual Islamic religious constraints. They adopt non-Islamic appearances such as shaving their beard and wearing a tie in order to blend into crowds and make themselves hard to detect even to other Muslims. They can drink alcohol and even eat pork to deceive their enemies. They believe that any means justify the end and, that killing other Muslims can be justified in their cause and that Western society is heathen and it is their duty to destroy it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takfir_wal-Hijra

takfir
Definition: This is the act of identifying someone as a kafir - unbeliever. Some Muslims believe that the right to do this lies only with God.

Some, however, think that humans are allowed to make such an identification. Doing so has been an important part of Islamic fundamentalism - Muslims are not allowed to wage war on each other, but they can wage war on unbelievers. Thus, if a society or group can be labeled as unbelieving, it becomes religious acceptable to engage in even armed battle with them.

http://atheism.about.com/library/glossary/islam/bldef_takfir.htm

TheBigOldDog on November 16, 2006 at 1:08 PM

Thanks, BigOldDog. That’s about what I had seen. My concern is - where does that fit in as a celebratory chant at a successful political candidate’s rally? And why hasn’t it been noted in the non-MSM coverage? (We know it’s a snore for the MSM’s)

eeyore on November 16, 2006 at 2:35 PM

I do not understand how or why there has been no major attack on the scale of 9/11.

Yes, there have been small attacks by the likes of individual Muslims running people down with their motor vehicle, or shooting people with guns, and so on, but there has been nothing large and dramatic.

I am starting to think that maybe the looney toons are correct, that the whole idea of a terrorist attack is just fear mongering by the Bush administration and that the terrorists really could have attacked by now if they wanted to.

So, either they don’t really want to attack and we are being sold a pile of bull dung, or they will attack, they just haven’t picked to time yet, or they will attack and they have picked the time yet and the attack will come when the terrorists want to do it.

Bottom line, I no longer believe that our government has been protecting us.

Why?

1) The government, especially the Bush administration, has bent over backwards to allow illegal invaders into this country from Mexico, Saudi Arabia, and elsewhere. They have not taken the proper steps to prevent another attack.

2) The over concern of offending Muslims by profiling and such. It came out at the 9/11 commission hearings that it is illegal for airport security to stop and give extra security checks to more than two Arab-Muslim looking men in a row. Several airlines were already fined millions just for being accused of doing so.

What does that mean? It means that my Chinese wife, our children, and me, can all be set aside for extra screening. My Cousin’s son-in-law, who is black and a full time Coast Guard member, can be stopped en route to his assignments while wearing his uniform and carrying his orders, that three or more US Marines in their uniforms with their orders for Iraq can be stopped in the airport, that five black travelers wearing Crosses or crucifixes, or five white travelers with gray hair and walkers can all be stopped, all one after the other, all in a row, and that is perfectly is okay, but more than two Arab-Muslim looking men in a row is illegal and must not be done.

In the aforementioned examples, the cases of the Coast Guard member in uniform, my extended family member, actually happened at virtually EVERY airport he passed through while wearing his uniform and carrying his orders. The case of my wife and I and our children also took place. In fact my father-in-law was stopped and screened, frisked, etc., just like us, four times in one direction enroute to his daughter’s wedding. He traveled separately from us on a different flight.

This idiocy, the likes of what Nancy Pelosi, CAIR, and the like are pushing has got to stop! It must be confronted and trounced once and for all.

I hope the idiots who voted these Democrats into the majority have now seen the error of their ways. I hope these “useful idiots” are now bashing their heads against the wall, weeping and gnashing their teeth, wailing away at their idiotic act!

Just wait until these new Democrat Senators and House members are sworn into office and they start into their task of screwing up our country even more than it is now. If their past behavior is any indicator, no doubt the Republicans will capitulate rather than fight!

They thought we were in trouble before?

Now we are REALLY in trouble.

Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

Should I bend over and kiss my behind good-bye yet?

Should I get down on my knees and kiss my country, the United States of America, good-bye yet?

William

William2006 on November 16, 2006 at 2:52 PM

I FULLY AND TRULY expect to be hiding in the hills within ten years. FULLY.

Really? You are that paranoid? I’m sorry, it must be tough to think so irrationally all the time. I mean I can understand fearing another terrorist attack, even something as horrible as a nuclear explosion. But you believe we will be engaged in street warfare with jihadists in ten years?

That idea is just so far-fetched I don’t know where to begin. How many men would it take to invade the US? I would say 10 million is a conservative estimate–good luck training that many soliders; we can barely train 100,000 in Iraq. And how would they get here? Last time I checked they didn’t have landing craft or airplanes. Don’t you understand that the very reason terrorists fight the way they do is because the have no choice; they don’t have the money, men, or resources to attack us conventionally so they hijack our planes and bomb our buildings. Terrorist may very well kill many more Americans, but they certianly will not do it in house to house urban warfar.

JaHerer22 on November 16, 2006 at 3:01 PM

Terrorist may very well kill many more Americans, but they certianly will not do it in house to house urban warfar.

Remember the havoc created by the D.C.area snipers? That took two men and one rifle. Imagine the same thing happening in every state simultaneously - one hundred men and fifty rifles.

RedWinged Blackbird on November 16, 2006 at 3:19 PM

Good point. That would be a scary situation, and since I live in DC,I know how much panic it caused. But life went on as normal for the most part and Americans showed they would not be intimidated. And that hardly amounts to the invasion seejanemom seems to fear with Americans hunkered down in bunkers with the guns waiting to fend off bands of terrorists who have taken over the cities.

JaHerer22 on November 16, 2006 at 3:28 PM

I don’t think the all-out invasion scenario will ever happen, thanks largely to the Second Amendment - the National Defense of Last Resort. They don’t really need an all-out invasion. It’s more about terrorizing than killing in mass numbers.

RedWinged Blackbird on November 16, 2006 at 3:40 PM

In the event of a catastrophe we will need protection from eachother ala New Orleans and Jericho.

infidel on November 16, 2006 at 3:43 PM

It is not about military invasion alone!

Islamists are also reproducing in greater numbers than their infidel peers in Europe and elsewhere. They are also affecting laws, slowly tweaking the law to give lattitude toward Sharia.

They are also affecting what is taught in schools, a la California and the teaching of Islam in school being approved by the 9th circuit court, and they are affecting the news media and Hollywood.

Yes, they even affect US politics.

The change over to dihmmitude is a multi point process and it is taking place around us.

William

William2006 on November 16, 2006 at 3:58 PM

and if one steals a pilots uniform and tries to board, thats ok too. nah they havent tried that have they?….

un-f’n-believable.

johnnyU on November 16, 2006 at 4:06 PM

The change over to dihmmitude is a multi point process and it is taking place around us.

No argument there. The jihad has its military, political, and cultural aspects. We’re fortunate in a way that we are a few decades behind Europe in our march to dhimmitude. We have the opportunity to see what awaits us if we don’t wake up and smell the camel dung.

RedWinged Blackbird on November 16, 2006 at 4:12 PM

‘William2006′, the reason there have been no big-time down-town attacks since 9/11 is probably because of the skills and determination of thousands of people whose job it is to protect us.

Or, to let Paranoia fully take hold, yes, it could be a massive nationwide conspiracy engineered by BushHitler

take your pick, son

Janos Hunyadi on November 16, 2006 at 4:50 PM

The crazy thing is that those who are creating the problem by failing to defend the country will be completely surprised when “Michigan Militia” types start defending the country on their own.

I wouldn’t even be surprised to see a re-emergence of the Klan as the fringe detects we are all being painted into a corner and starts the first violent retaliations.

I don’t want or support that sort of irrational violence but I will not be the least bit surprised when it starts to happen. Frankly, I’m amazed it hasn’t happened yet.

keylime on November 16, 2006 at 5:18 PM

Keep it up, you burned out over-the-hill hippy. How stupid can you be?

Dave R. on November 16, 2006 at 5:18 PM

‘William2006′, the reason there have been no big-time down-town attacks since 9/11 is probably because of the skills and determination of thousands of people whose job it is to protect us.

Or, to let Paranoia fully take hold, yes, it could be a massive nationwide conspiracy engineered by BushHitler

take your pick, son

Janos Hunyadi on November 16, 2006 at 4:50 PM

“Janos,”

I was never a “Bush/Hitler” conspiracy theorist. I am not now a “Bush/Hitler” conspiracy theorist. I am pissed big time at him and his associates for giving a pass to illegal invaders, thus putting us at great risk.

If we are supposed to be at war, we are also supposed to seal our borders in order to ensure safety by blocking entrance to our nation as much as physically possible. President Bush not only has not done so, he actually fights sealing the borders, thus putting us all at greater risk.

The original attackers’ operatives were here on student visas, legally originally. That argument does not discount the seriousness of the importance of sealing our borders.

Because our president and his operatives ignore us, the voters and his supporters, and because that act of not sealing the borders is the opposite of what one should do in time of war, it is clear that Bush does not really take war against Islamic Jihadis seriously. He does not really believe we are truly at war, otherwise he would seal the borders and not give fast track visas to Saudis, or any other nation or nationality.

Furthermore, movement into our country via other nations, such as France, Germany, etc., also leaves us open to Jihadis, for they are using this method to actually travel from Europe to the US, which is easier from so-called “friendly” nations, rather than from nations that are on the watch list, such as Iran, Syria, etc.

Police throughout the nation are told by their commanders that they are not to check out the nationality or status of anyone they stop, such as for an auto infraction, etc. This is so even if the police suspect that the person is a foreigner. That is insane!

These people are not taking this seriously, and that debunks their claim that they are doing all they can to protect us.

In the past I have argued in favor of the protection that unseen faces, working in the trenches, have provided in preventing another massive attack.

As time passed, as I observed the debacle of massive illegal invaders, of special access to various Arab-predominently Muslim countries, such as Saudi Arabia, and similar cases, and upon observing the horrific performance by TSA, who, time and time and time again are found letting weapons and whatnot through EVERY TIME they are covertly tested, and, when I see the stupid, idiotic pro-Arab, pro-Muslim exception to extra screening at airports, and the virtually total access to train stations, bus stations, and so on, I have little to no confidence any longer in the faceless someones who are protecting us.

Gee! Even non-terrorists have caused trouble in public places while passersby were defenseless against them and while law enforcement were like the Keystone cops in their response.

In Great Britain, law enforcement has decided to seek permission from Muslim leadership before they go and investigate or raid a suspected Muslim terrorist site.

In The United States the “protectors” are not even allowed to use radiation detection around mosques in order to make certain that there are not nuclear materials hidden in these houses of worship, which, in the Muslim world double as planning and meeting points for Jihadi attacks.

No. I no longer believe that we are truly being protected. My confidence in their dependability is greatly reduced.

I won’t be surprised if and when another massive attack takes place, or a series of damaging, horrific attacks take place.

I’ll bet that after it does our President’s administration will still claim that there is no reason to seal our borders, and they will still offer amnesty and free invasion for law breaking illegals.

William

William2006 on November 16, 2006 at 5:30 PM

invasion is highly unlikely, nigh impossible for small groups that spend almost as much time fighting against themselves as they do preaching against the great satan. however, several years down the road, once they have outpopulated traditional europeans, that situation might change.

p.s. first post btw (finally checked the email address that i had my pw sent too), looking forward to many more!!

pmoshields on November 16, 2006 at 5:42 PM

Really? You are that paranoid? I’m sorry, it must be tough to think so irrationally all the time. I mean I can understand fearing another terrorist attack, even something as horrible as a nuclear explosion. But you believe we will be engaged in street warfare with jihadists in ten years?

There can be rationales for withdrawal from mainstream society beyond the escape of violence. One could seek shelter merely to avoid, say, an uncontested influx of Muslims and their associated customs. As we’re seeing in Europe, the imposition of the caliphate can take place gradually, and without a front centered on acts of violence (not that those don’t tend to occur, also). The relentless exploitation of “tolerance” is a far greater weapon in the Islamic arsenal than any conceivable act(s) of murder.

That said, ten years is a pretty short time table for a total collapse of America as we know it–though it may well be enough time to gauge whether current negative trends are irreversible. And granted the apparent unwillingness of western society to even recognize that Islam is a problematic ideology, let alone to actively resist its encroachment, I don’t think 30 years is much of a stretch at all. Not that I would wager the U.S. by that time will actually be an Islamic nation, but the current triangulation of Islamic expansion, American cultural and geopolitical decline (from all sorts of sources), and Chinese economic and military emergence definitely raises questions as to whether it will be someplace modern Americans would even recognize.

Of course, even then there would be some realities one just couldn’t hide from, even in Montana.

Blacklake on November 16, 2006 at 5:52 PM

Pelosi and Co. may want ot disable and disarm every defensive measure this nation has but it’ll be interesting to see just how much of it, if any, they can get passed through Congress.

We’ll just hae to wait and see but thankfully we have HotAir and others helping us to keep an eye on things.

Yakko77 on November 16, 2006 at 6:01 PM

Okay, William, I warn’t callin’ you out ( Southern usage ) and I share your concerns about illegal immigration and the PC-based limits put on law enforcement agencies

To believe that we are no longer being adequately protected is one thing; to believe that the gummint has created a deliberate policy of leaving us open to attack is a Whole Nuther Thing.

Who knows? You could be right, and if They are actually after you then you ain’t paranoid

Janos Hunyadi on November 16, 2006 at 6:17 PM

Everytime I watch one of these Robert Spencer Jihad Watch vlogs, the knot in my stomach gets bigger and bigger.

vcferlita on November 16, 2006 at 7:26 PM

Wow!

What a diverse range of thought here today -

One thing, though, political correctness will be the (perhaps literal) death of us all if we, collectively, don’t take steps to repudiate it - now!!!!!!!

In Great Britain, law enforcement has decided to seek permission from Muslim leadership before they go and investigate or raid a suspected Muslim terrorist site.
William2006 on November 16, 2006 at 5:30 PM

Too late - that sort of thing is already here. In some places like Columbus, Ohio, police have to get permission before interviewing Somalis (they have the nation’s first or second largest concentration of them in the U.S. at around 30,000+)about routine crimes. There are interpreters in many cities for those who routinely refuse (yes - refuse!) to learn English or to assimilate as our ancestors had to.

God and Christian regilion is forbidden in American classrooms, but Allah and Islam are practically required.

American children have to work and scrape by with two or more jobs to even try to afford college, but Muslim and other foreign children who are not citizens are practically given totally free education up to and including doctoral level degrees.

American jobs are eliminated by American companies because they (and the Government agrees) say that American workers are thought to be too lazy. But those same companies hire and employ illegal aliens to do the work we used to do - without an eye being batted twice.

These are but a few of the things that are happening in front of us - never mind what is behind the scenes.

Is there something wrong with this picture?

If we are supposed to be at war, we are also supposed to seal our borders in order to ensure safety by blocking entrance to our nation as much as physically possible. President Bush not only has not done so, he actually fights sealing the borders, thus putting us all at greater risk.

You wonder what would have happened if the same bunch had been “protecting” us during World War II. Surely we would now be speaking German (except for the West Coast, which would more than likely have to have been proficient in Japanese) and the world would be very different from what we currently know.

Yes, we are at risk. Such things cannot happen without the collective knowledge and assent of the majority.

What I mean by this is that every thing that happens - someone sees. Someone knows about……

…………..and most say and do ……nothing.

For many reasons - they are scared - after all, what can one (or a few) people do?

As individuals, nothing - collectively, they can inform others through mediums such as this one -

and we can all inform each other….and others around us…

and raise our colective voices together into one so that others know what is going on under our noses in the name of political correctness - diversity - being tolerant.

The meaning of these words are being perverted as never before to allow us to be taken over from within -

just like the ancient Roman Empire.

The parallels are too great to ignore.

William, you are more right than you know. Keep your eyes open and your ears to the ground……

chances are your neighbors won’t.

Emmett J. on November 16, 2006 at 7:54 PM

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And that’s all I have to say

MirCat on November 16, 2006 at 9:23 PM

JaHerer22,
We are living in a time of the superempowered individual. A single person or small group, can cause massive damage on a scale that rivals what nations could do just a 100 years ago. 19 killed 3,000 with box cutters. One individual killed 168 people in Oklahoma with a rented truck and some fertilizer and diesel fuel. Now imagine what Iran or a terrorist group could do with nuclear or biological weapons and you begin to understand the magnitude of the situation.

During the Cold War, we operated under the MAD doctrine (Mutually Assured Destruction). In that case our enemies were sane and valued life as much as we did. So, in that case, deterrence worked and prevented an apocalypse. With Iran and other fundamentalist Islamic States, no such deterrence exists. They think it’s their mission to bring about the apocalypse. They value death over life.

You say you remember the panic when the DC sniper was on the loose. Now imagine the level of panic and chaos if the US lost a city or two. If you want some sense of what it might look like, watch the remake of “war of the Worlds.” The idea of a complete and total meltdown is not as far fetched our as you think.

TheBigOldDog on November 16, 2006 at 9:57 PM

The Glenn Beck post is about to drop off the front page, so I’ll repost my comment here–if you missed his show on Wednesday about the Islamists, he’s going to be rebroadcasting it again on Sunday. Fire up your Tivos.

He’s also having Benjamin Netanyahu on for the whole hour of his show on Friday.

Hack Ptui on November 16, 2006 at 10:06 PM

The Glenn Beck post is about to drop off the front page, so I’ll repost my comment here–if you missed his show on Wednesday about the Islamists, he’s going to be rebroadcasting it again on Sunday. Fire up your Tivos.

He’s also having Benjamin Netanyahu on for the whole hour of his show on Friday.

Hack Ptui on November 16, 2006 at 10:06 PM

The Beck show was pretty good - probably has the Crescent News Network crowd’s knickers in a twist, eh?

Netanyahu has been a truth teller from way back - now if only American policy makers would actually listen, learn, and apply his wisdom.

One can hope!

Emmett J. on November 16, 2006 at 11:19 PM

Correction to my question above about “takfir”. The Ellison crowd was not shouting “takfir”.

They were shouting “takbir” which means “Shout Allahu Akbar!”

My mistake.

eeyore on November 16, 2006 at 11:46 PM

The Queen of political correctness has spoken. This IS the Dems fighting the war on terror!

NRA4Freedom on November 17, 2006 at 12:10 AM

I had to listen to that again, and onther comment came to mind, can’t you just HEAR the people that want to kill us all, laughing.

NRA4Freedom on November 17, 2006 at 12:15 AM

This IS the Dems fighting the war on terror!

NRA4Freedom on November 17, 2006 at 12:10 AM

Are you sure it’s not them fighting the war of terror?

Emmett J. on November 17, 2006 at 3:26 AM


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