IAEA discovers traces of plutonium, enriched uranium in Iranian waste facility
posted at 1:57 pm on November 14, 2006 by Allahpundit
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According to the AP. The IAEA found traces of enriched uranium back in August, too. Said WaPo at the time,
Previous traces were found to have been the result of used and discarded centrifuge equipment the Iranians bought from Pakistan. Officials at the IAEA said privately yesterday that the new contamination appears to be from old spent fuel the Iranians moved out of harm’s way during their eight-year war with Iraq.
One of our commenters at the time speculated that the spent fuel probably came from the research reactor we built for Iran in 1967.
Re: the plutonium, I won’t even pretend to know what I’m talking about. Rather, I’ll rely on the knowledgeable among you to explain it to me. From what I understand of this 2003 paper, as of three years ago only two reactors in the country had previously produced plutonium and both of those were under “IAEA safeguards.” Another plant, at Arak, will eventually produce enough plutonium for 8 to 10 bombs a year, but it hasn’t been built yet and won’t be ready until 2009 or so. The only other possibility is the light-water reactor at Bushehr, of which the paper has this to say:
Iran could try to pursue one of two reprocessing routes if it wanted to produce plutonium. Both pathways present unique challenges and limitations. First, … Iran would likely have the large Bushehr nuclear power plant operating. This plant embodies the potential for dozens of nuclear weapons per year as long as Iran was willing to circumvent NPT restrictions, agreements with the IAEA, and the proposed agreement between Iran and Russia to ensure that all spent fuel from Busheher is returned to Russia. In order to handle the hundreds of tons of spent fuel, Iran would need a relatively large reprocessing facility. Iranian officials could try to justify this type of facility as legitimate within the letter of the NPT. Nonetheless, the United States and other like-minded nations would probably protest that this facility would raise too much alarm about Iran’s ability to develop a substantial nuclear arsenal.
A clandestine reprocessing facility would also do the trick, they claim. But what are the odds that Iran has one of those?
Ahmadinejad, earlier today in Tehran:
[T]he nation would be informed of two very great progress in the fields, he said.
Briefing domestic reporters on the progress, Ahmadinejad said one of these progress would be quite unique and the Islamic Republic of Iran is the first ever country in the world who has found access to such achievement, he underlined.
“This year’s Ten-Day Dawn (February 1-11) period will mark the Iranian nation’s success in mastering fuel cycle as well as its achievements in other fields,” said Ahmadinejad.
Iran is to officially enter the nuclear market during Ten-Day Dawn period this year, pointed out the president.
MEMRI’s got excerpts of hardline Iranian newspapers calling on Muslims to prepare for “the great war.”
Update: Netanyahu being Netanyahu: “It’s 1938, and Iran is Germany.”
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Surprise, surprise . . . only the most dim-witted didn’t know what they were doing and would be surprised by this finding.
rplat on November 14, 2006 at 2:01 PM
Well Harry? Well Nancy? Well John? We’re waiting!!!!
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on November 14, 2006 at 2:02 PM
Appeasement, goodwill, heartfelt wishes, and happy, happy thoughts will no doubt make this little situation go away.
Halley on November 14, 2006 at 2:02 PM
Honestly, is there really any need to worry about this? Now that Pelosi and Reid are running the show and W. is going to do what James Baker et al. tell him he should do, everything is going to be just peachy. What could go wrong?
Besides, does Iran have the gumballs to do anything with nukes if they every succeed in getting them?
thirteen28 on November 14, 2006 at 2:03 PM
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: The answer is unicorns.
Editor on November 14, 2006 at 2:09 PM
The only thing you can possibly do is nuke them. I’m not kidding.
What can Bush or anyone else do to Iran? Sanctions? Please!
Are we getting any support from Russia and China? Of course not! They want to weaken our resolve and political power throughout the globe.
So I say it comes down to this: Bush needs to grow some balls and be a leader. You go to Iran and tell them if they don’t stop, we will nuke the hell out of them. All their cities will be decimated. Muslims throughout history only know one kind of law…. POWER. You show them power, or they will walk all over you.
Bush…GROW SOME BALLS.
msipes on November 14, 2006 at 2:12 PM
“Well Harry? Well Nancy? Well John? We’re waiting!!!!”
by Dread Pirate Roberts VI on November 14, 2006 at 2:02 PM
Actually Dread Pirate… Iran’s guilt here is too clear to punt to the new incoming Dems… the Executive Office itself needs to address the nation and say it will do something about Iran’s nuclear ambitions… if it continues to ignore the issue the ‘paper tiger’ charge will begin to stick… If Bush holds a fireside chat with the nation and tells them about the growing Iran problem, then he will achieve America’s support before Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi have a chance to rebel. It would also be a good move to get the focus off Iraq…
IntheNet on November 14, 2006 at 2:13 PM
Thank Allah for unicorns and Dhims. I feel so safe now.
infidel on November 14, 2006 at 2:15 PM
It is a complete mystery where the Plutonium and enriched Uranium came from! Someone call in Hans Brix!
Neo on November 14, 2006 at 2:24 PM
You mean baseballs?
But yeah, it would really help if Bush could show us the leader we voted into power.
Esthier on November 14, 2006 at 2:26 PM
i think world war III is about to really begin
Defector01 on November 14, 2006 at 2:26 PM
IntheNet,
I think that Bush tried to tell the nation about the risks. Unfortunately, the risks were being played down by the MSM.
“All we need to do is talk – then the birds will be singing, the flowers will be in bloom, and we will have peace.”
BobK on November 14, 2006 at 2:27 PM
Nah, they wont succeed, and if they do Nancy and Co. will just invite to a Kumbaya session and all will be resolved..
Viper1 on November 14, 2006 at 2:32 PM
…where’d they find it? In their *TEA*?
The IAEA couldn’t find the butts with both hands…
…er..butt with their hands…butts with all their hands…do they have one collective butt? How do you frame this metaphor when you’re talking about multiple people, each with a butt and hands (presumably)?
…OK…they couldn’t find their p*ckers with a flashlight…er…flashlights…p*cker with flashlights…aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!
Puritan1648 on November 14, 2006 at 2:36 PM
If this follows pattern, we need at least 10 more years of inspections and 20 UN resolutions before we can even threaten to warn them to stop.
jman on November 14, 2006 at 2:37 PM
Does anyone know how to say “Thank you, sir. May I have another?” in Persian?
Pablo on November 14, 2006 at 2:41 PM
Why have to work so hard on it? All we have to do is let Dennis Kucinich establish his Department of Peace, and everything will be fixed and better than peachy-keen. It will “augment our current problem-solving modalities, providing practical, nonviolent solutions to the problems of domestic and international conflict…”
Ooooo, augmented modalities.
eeyore on November 14, 2006 at 2:42 PM
If this follows pattern, we need at least 10 more years of inspections and 20 UN resolutions before we can even threaten to warn them to stop.
Something tells me the Israelis aren’t going to wai that long. If Bush continues to fiddle, they will do what is necessary to deprive Ahmedinijihad of his nuclear arsenal.
They have no other choice, really.
Dave R. on November 14, 2006 at 2:50 PM
i think world war III is about to really begin
Actually, it is WW IV, and it has already started.
Dave R. on November 14, 2006 at 2:52 PM
Puritan… think Circle Jerk and you’ll get the right mental image….
As to WWIII… or IV… or XII or whatever….
The seeds were planted in 1979, and they’be been building the power base through Madrasas since then… an entire generation.
But you can’t have a real war without a declaration of War, somthing this political climate can’t, or won’t, allow.
I want my Cowboy President back!
Romeo13 on November 14, 2006 at 3:11 PM
Why, is the Cold War considered WW III?
Esthier on November 14, 2006 at 3:11 PM
Bush planted the plutonium.. wake up neocons.
RightWinged on November 14, 2006 at 3:16 PM
Why, is the Cold War considered WW III?
I see it that way. Probably because we actually won it. Not that the dims or the MSM were any help.
Dave R. on November 14, 2006 at 3:21 PM
Bush planted the plutonium.. wake up neocons.
Actually, I believe it came from Karl Rove’s plutonium machine, which I believe he keeps next to his weather generator. I could be wrong, though.
Dave R. on November 14, 2006 at 3:24 PM
Exactly, if it were up to them, the spies McCarthy outed (not Hollywood people as the movies protray McCarthism) would have stayed in positions as close to the president as Rove is to Bush.
I guess I’ve only shied of considering it WW III because it didn’t seem like a world war. Though, the USSR certainly built up an empire of its own.
Esthier on November 14, 2006 at 3:24 PM
Over 60 years ago when our leaders had balls, Oppenheimer built the bomb and Truman gave the orders to drop the damn thing on an enemy who had no nukes, nor any near term plans to build them and drop them in our backyard. All Japan had left was a weakened military and civilian population determined to fight to the last man, woman or child – with planes, tanks, guns, bayonets and kamakazis, none of which threatened our homeland.
Today we have an enemy who has a nationally mandated program to build
reactorsnukes and has promised to use them in the name of Allah, yet we twiddle our thumbs in the face of Armegeddon.Those who don’t learn from history ………..
You know the rest.
Three final points.
- Those bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved millions of lives – Japanese and American.
- The war ended and Japan surrendered.
- Today, Japan and her people are both friend and ally, and live in a thriving democracy.
No one would have thought that possible 60 years ago.
fogw on November 14, 2006 at 3:45 PM
He planted some by Mother Sheehan’s uterus in Texas, too. A glow-in-the-dark liberal uterus tree! WoooHooo!
SouthernGent on November 14, 2006 at 3:47 PM
I know this guy and he has a friend that’s neighbor belongs to a club which owns a Ohio class submarine that just happens to be parked not too far from Tehran!
…I should make a call!
JoeFunk on November 14, 2006 at 3:59 PM
The Cold War is not a misnomer. It may have been virtually bloodless, but never think for a moment that the fate of the world at the time did not hang in the balance, dependent upon the U.S. to show it’s willingness to employ ALL FORCE NECESSARY to counter communist imperialism.
How cute that today, the progeny of those communists in our intelligentsia refer to the U.S. as imperialistic. I always have to ask, which country that we have defeated did we subsume under U.S. rule? /tangent
It was war, but because any openly hostile conflict was feared to result in a nuclear exchange, it was a war of non-hostilities.
Freelancer on November 14, 2006 at 5:14 PM
It may have been a Cold War, but there were plenty of Hot skirmishes in which many brave Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen were killed.
I’m one of those that include Korea and Vietnam as part of the Cold War. Heck, you might even make an argument that Desert Storm was the last battle of the Cold War. US-Alliance vs. Soviet-trained and equipped Iraq, in a battle for arena superiority.
(Although… the ChiComs are still REDS…)
Kai on November 14, 2006 at 5:23 PM
I think I was the commenter Allah refered to from the previous post.
I haven’t been able to get tuesday’s IAEA report yet (it isn’t yet on their website), but this could be referring to the HEU found earlier this year. We’ll have to see.
As I said previously, the 5MW research reactor in Iran that we (the USA) built for them in 1967 used weapon’s grade HEU fuel until it was reconfigured to use LEU fuel in the mid 1980’s. The first batch of used fuel for that reactor was, as far as I’ve been able to tell, never returned to the USA because of the revolution. During the Iran-Iraq war, Iraq was attacking Tehran with airstrikes and SCUDS and the Iranians moved this spent fuel to prevent a nuclear accident. The contamination, at least the HEU contamination, was most like from this batch of used fuel (which can no longer be used for weapons, btw).
The plutonium contamination is something new and is a cause for concern. The PU contamination could be from the same spent reactor fuel, although HEU fuel does not have a lot of U-238 available to convert to plutonium. For those who may not know, plutonium is made from uranium-238 inside reactors.
Whatever the case, chemical tests of the contamination will probably reveal the source and how the contamination occured. We’ll know the truth when the results are eventually released.
Just one quibble in the post. Bushehr, once it becomes operational, will not be a source of plutonium for weapons. Although plutonium is created in all nuclear reactors, high quality uncontaminated plutonium for weapons is ideally make in a heavy-water reactor and by using specific procedures to make the material. Extracting plutonium from a LWR like Bushehr, while not completely impossible, is sufficiently difficult that the Iranians don’t have the technical expertise to do it alone. In addition, it would be pretty much impossible to do covertly.
Arak is really a reactor, once completely, that would give the Iranians a real plutonium production capability. So far, no reprocessing facility has been identified in Iran, which is a required component in any plutonium weapon program.
NPP on November 14, 2006 at 5:27 PM
Managing The Atom reports the plutonium was found along with the HEU found in September. The Iranians have apparently given and explaination, but we still don’t know all the details yet.
NPP on November 14, 2006 at 7:24 PM
ARRUGH!! Ok, I swore off commenting, but I’m not sure I can live with it… so here goes…
Frankly, I’m getting tired of all of these
ballslittleballscountries giving usballstrouble. They seem to of forgotten who not only made the first atomic bomb, but who is the only country to of ever used it in war.I’m thinking all of these little ignorant
ballsneed a 50 megaton reminder, starting with Iran’s nuclear facilities… and ending with the areas in Pakistan where we think Osama is hiding.E L Frederick on November 14, 2006 at 7:51 PM
Bush needs to just order up some B-2s and get it over with. Take out the mullahs and their nukes, let the people (who’re pro-Western) rebuild their country and become our allies. Then it’s on to Syria.
Our grandchildren will thank us for it. If we don’t do anything, we may be someday debating over how they were able to sneak a radiological device or even a nuke into the country (through the southern border) and destroy an American city. Maybe if that city is San Fran the left will finally get mad enough to fight back.
Nah, they’ll just blame Bush.
Tony737 on November 14, 2006 at 8:32 PM
E.L., you swore off commenting? Why? You’re good at it! Keep it up. And you’re right, they seem to’ve forgotten who INVENTED the nuke…
Arab guy: “My people blew up two of your buildings.”
Carlos Mencia: “Oh yeah? MY people blew up two of your COUNTRIES!”
Arab guy: “My people are trying to create a nuclear bomb and might use it.”
Carlos: “MY people INVENTED the nuclear bomb! And we ALREADY used it! TWICE! ‘Cause that’s how we play, bitch!”
Tony737 on November 14, 2006 at 8:38 PM
Tony737, that video clip is just hilarious.
True, too.
Abigail Adams on November 15, 2006 at 8:44 AM
Of course the IAEA was totally shocked at this discovery. You mean Iran is not implementing the recomendations of the EU and the UN? Shocking, truly shocking. Next up for the IAEA is total surprise at the excelarated pace of the N. Koreans nuke program. But then the IAEA is still in denial over the Russians claims to have nukes………
In todays PC world we will have to wait until the mushroom cloud is looming over a U.S. city before we will take action…but as one poster already correctly put it the left and the rest of the world will just blame Bush…
ritethinker on November 15, 2006 at 10:40 AM
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