Moderates suffer from identity-based conflicts, yet look to the “non-Muslim west” as the resolution to their crisis… VIDEO (you will faint!)…

You people would be unhinged if you found an internal CNN memo referring to the fight between Pence and Boehner as the “nut and the screw-up”.

Grebrook on November 14, 2006 at 11:23 PM

No, we would expect that…

No mandate to give habeas to terrorists

as if everyone who’s picked up on the battlefield is a terrorist…those who are picked up mistakenly should have their rights protected,its an inconvenient fact but its there.
And as for the country moving to the right because some conservative democrats were elected…they’re still more to the left the Republicans..is the election of Casey “moving to the right” from Santorum? Quite the opposite.

Well maybe yes, maybe no.

“the country rejected us” — every media pundit has been gleefully running with the meme that the country voted as they did because of unhappiness with BUSH and the Iraq War. And that they took it out on the Republicans.

But the COUNTRY did not give the Democrats a mandate to cut and run (about 3/4 do not want the US to cut and run). The country did not give the Democrats a mandate to give habeas corpus to terrorists we capture on the battle field. The country did not give the Democrats a mandate to terminate the NSA terrorist tracking programs or stopping the interrogation of prisoners.

And the country did not give the Democrats a mandate to repeal the military court commission legislation recently passed.

And the country did NOT give the Democrats a mandate to give amnesty to illegal aliens and grant them citizenship.

Yet. That is what the Democrats intend to do.

“Stop calling Grebrook names.” — please do not confuse applying the appropriate nomenclature to Grebrook with defaming him. He is what he is. And calling him what he is is neither insulting him nor abusing him. It’s just telling the truth.

“He is right abotu the public perception. We need to change it.” — nope. He’s making it up by lying with statistics. And he’s playing off of slanted and biased MSM induced perceptions. In other words, he is doing what a propagandist (also known as “spin artist”) is supposed to do.

What he is trying to do, Rusty, is MANUFACTURE CONSENT, by throwing bullshit up on the wall and trying to convince us that it’s a Picasso.

The “perception” that he is trying to get us to accept is the perception that the moonbat cultists at DU and DKOS have of us, not that of the American people.

George will (and others) had it right by saying that what this election did is move the country RIGHTWARD by electing moderate Democrats into office. Because of the Congressional seniority system LIBERAL Democrats are taking control — BUT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE NO MANDATE TO RULE AS LIBERALS.

No mandate to cut and run (just to find another solution than “stay the course”).

No mandate to terminate the NSA tracking programs — which the American public strongly approves of.

No mandate to give habeas to terrorists — which the public strongly opposes.

No mandate to repeal the military courts law — which the public wants to remain in place.

And no mandate to give amnestiy (and citizenship) to illegal aliens — which the public does NOT support, given the results of some of the ballot measures.

The leadership of the House and Senate are the OLD GUARD LIBERALS, who got the committee chairs and leadership positions by virtue of BEING OLD and sitting in Congress for a couple of decades — NOT because the public elected them to be in charge.

A “new direction” in Iraq is not the same as the wet dream wish list of liberalism.

I just recently left the coveted 18-24 spot (25 this year). I’m about as conservative as a person can get (social conservative, economic libertarian) and most of my associates are shocked when they find out that I’m conservative.

Sure, I’ve been a registered Republican since I was 18 and voted conservative candidates and issues in every election I’ve been able to vote in, but, when I’m with a group of friends and colleagues (college at NYU, now working in Santa Monica, CA), I tend not to want to rock the boat or start arguments. Does this mean that I pretend that I agree with everything that’s being said? No. It simply means that I stay silent and people assume my silence is an endorsement (this saves me from being a liar, but does leave me being a gutless wonder).

Now, take a young person that is less well-grounded and less sure of their views than I am (not to toot my own horn, but, ‘finding myself’ has never been an issue for me like it seems to be for so many other people my age) and it is very easy to convince them to go along with the group and that the group is right (or left, as the case may be).

So, it is not shocking to me at all that young people are more likely to vote the same way at a higher rate than the rest of the electorate.

Ok, how about Democrats winning 60-38 among the key 18-24 demographic? Sounds like a leftward tilt to me. — Grebrook

This just proves young people tend liberal. Nothing trendy in these numbers… — bspoogeferd

…the 18-24 demographic percentage is a testament to three things:

* Lousy public education, involving heavy doses of indoctrination. Our kids receive *APPALLING* history education, which is key in making more mature decisions.

* Political fashion among the entertainment products and popular culture aimed at that demographic.

* That 18-24 year olds don’t have the responsibilities that 40-50 year olds heve. They can afford to give the farm away when they have little to lose…and don’t try that old “military age” canard…it’s one thing to risk your own a$$, another to risk the future of your family. Been there/done that.

So, it’s not a “leftward tilt”. As bspoogeferd points out, it’s part of being young and, if I may add, inexperienced.

We live in a culture which diminishes the value of experience, as in “life experience”, substituting the squishier “personal experience”, as in “what’s true for me”.

When older folks, who’ve lived through a little, speak, young folks should listen. I’m 51, and I shut up when some of my own elders speak. Age isn’t necessarily an indicator of wisdom, but it *IS* an indicator of experience.

So, the “leftward tilt” of the 18-24 demographic an be simply summed up as childish inexperience, which they will grow out of…hopefully….

Ok, how about Democrats winning 60-38 among the key 18-24 demographic? Sounds like a leftward tilt to me.

This just proves young people tend liberal. Nothing trendy in these numbers…

  Al Jazeera is debuting it’s english news Channel for U.S. Cable and Satellite. The news anchors will be non arab. I am sure  Durbin (D-Ill, Harry Reid (D-Nev.), Chuck Schumer, Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) and Barbara Boxer(D-Calif.) …

Grebrook is right.

About what?

I wonder how many people that read this post and follow the links are still going to tell us that the majority of Muslims are peaceful and wish us no harm. The research proves what so many of us have been trying to tell everyone since 9/11.

Protecting a religion that breeds violence by its very nature is suicide.

Are we drinking cool aid now? Grebrook is right. We took a thumping. We have a lot of work to do. Yes, the country rejected us. Come on. Stop calling Grebrook names. He is right abotu the public perception. We need to change it.

I know, I know, but the facts are on our side. So? Since when did that matter? I means seriously. We need to figure out how to pursued the majority of Americans that what is true is true.

I see all of this talk about a new party. A new party? From what? You all think that we can win by forming a party out of 50% of the present party? Do you actually believe that we could siphon enough votes away from the Dems to make a new party? Bull balls. Can I say that Allah? Michelle broke the seal!

Now how are we going to pusude the majority of Americans to support our vision?

I didn’t post here for 12 hours and you thought I left? — Grebrook

…not “thought”…hoped.

http://pereiraville.com/scribble/?p=2034

The Huffington Post is running a memo it says is from the Vice President of News at Fox News that that this former staff reporter considers to have one of the m……

At least here you won’t get banned for being the opposing party like I’ve been at some of your side’s sites.

At DU, you have to swear an oath to the Nancyboys, or else get kicked off.

*snort*

Heh heh heh…

Ok, how about Democrats winning 60-38 among the key 18-24 demographic? Sounds like a leftward tilt to me.
Grebrook on November 15, 2006 at 1:46 AM

Sounds like it to me as well.

It is no surprise that all those years of left wing propaganda taught from the time a child first enters school, and all the way through college, and at the work place, and in Hollywood and the media, is finally paying off.

William

Do you have a favorable or unfavorable view of the Democratic Party?

Favorable: 53%
Unfavorable: 35%

Do you have a favorable or unfavorable view of the Republican Party?

Favorable: 38%
Unfavorable: 52%

How to lie with statistics!

Give the sheeple a hefty helping of pre processed information, constantly berate the current president, his administration, and the soldiers and the war effort against Muslims militant blood and death cult members, toss in ample supplies of favorable press for Democrats, being certain to filter news so that good news related to conservatives is obscured or note even mentioned, but also omit bad press related to the Democrats.

Repeat it often enough for the idiots to believe it as fact.

Shake well, give plenty of favorable, cheer leading for the Democrats, and act like you are reputable and neutral in reporting the news.

Then, add some slanted polls to put the finishing touches on your little engineered election coverage!

Finally, go out and celebrate the Democrat win and your part in it!

Isn’t life grand?

William

Ok, how about Democrats winning 60-38 among the key 18-24 demographic? Sounds like a leftward tilt to me.
Grebrook on November 15, 2006 at 1:46 AM

You keep pounding that demographic as if it were the wave of the future and significant in more than the short-run.

Eventually most of those folks will get a real job, move out of their parent’s basements OR graduate, move out of their dormitories, get a real job. Then they will realize that liberalism is nothing but lies and false promises and false premises. Then, the more competent of them will become conservative and vote conservative.

Heck, it could even happen to you, if the doses of Kool-aid you have imbibed haven’t caused irreparable brain damage.