Abramoff fingers 6 to 8 “seriously corrupt” Democratic senators; Update: WaPo opposes Murtha
posted at 9:21 pm on November 14, 2006 by Allahpundit
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Plus Rove, which at this point is almost a bonus.
I like this comment left at the Blotter:
Nancy Pelosi stated she was going to “drain the swamp” I have news for her. When you start draining the water, you are going to find things in the mud that you thought were long discarded.
Oh man. This + Murtha as leader = best. majority. ever.
Place your bets — who are the six to eight? Reid is a given.
Update: This is no way to run a clean hands campaign says WaPo to Pelosi.
Update: Slublog comes through with a blast from Pelosi’s very recent past:
It is long past time for the Republican Congress to take the necessary steps to restore a high ethical standard in Congress and put the Ethics Committee back to work to investigate any misconduct of Members, including those involved with Jack Abramoff. The American people deserve nothing less.
Update: Which Democratic senator has received more of Abramoff’s largesse than any other? Guess.
Update: All of Rob Port’s chips are on Byron Dorgan.
Update: There’s no doubt Reid’s one of the lucky six (or eight), says Captain Ed. And he’s got a laundry list of reasons why he thinks so.
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Of course this doesn’t become known until AFTER the election.
Go figure.
Yakko77 on November 14, 2006 at 9:22 PM
Alcee Hastings doesn’t count. Its like outing the Pope as Catholic.
Number 2 on November 14, 2006 at 9:23 PM
Senators, not Congressmen.
Allahpundit on November 14, 2006 at 9:24 PM
Quick, who said this?
“It is long past time for the Republican Congress to take the necessary steps to restore a high ethical standard in Congress and put the Ethics Committee back to work to investigate any misconduct of Members, including those involved with Jack Abramoff. The American people deserve nothing less.”
This is going to be a fun two years.
Slublog on November 14, 2006 at 9:26 PM
Aside from Reid, I’ll take the Kleagle, Kennedy, and (crossing fingers) Feinstein.
Mark V. on November 14, 2006 at 9:30 PM
Slub, nice find. I also remember Hill saying something along those lines as well. Been looking but can’t find it though. Wish I had Lexis-Nexis.
BacaDog on November 14, 2006 at 9:30 PM
Republicans= Oceans Eleven Democrats = The Gang That Couldn’t Shoot Straight Corrupt and Stoopid
sonnyspats1 on November 14, 2006 at 9:32 PM
Oh Lexis is soooo nice, I used to have access.
And Feintstein? Do. You. Know. The party I would have over that? She is as entrenched as the faces on Easter Island.
Theworldisnotenough on November 14, 2006 at 9:36 PM
That was just a google search. I’m hitting up Lexis-Nexis right now.
Already hitting gold. From the September 16, 2006 Washington Post:
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said it “confirms what we have long said: The Republican culture of corruption has pervaded Congress.”
Slublog on November 14, 2006 at 9:37 PM
Geez, Boxer, Waxman too? I’d buy you a 5th of good Kentucky bourbon, World, if that happened.
BacaDog on November 14, 2006 at 9:39 PM
Nancy Pelosi, November 4, 2006:
“The Republican leadership has allowed Bob Ney to receive his paycheck and benefits for seven weeks after his admission of guilt to criminal conspiracy charges — it is an embarrassment to this institution and an insult to the American taxpayer. House Republican leaders have a long pattern of covering up and protecting Republican Members, and their culture of corruption comes at great cost to the American people. Mr. Ney is the fourth senior Republican to have resigned amid scandal in the 109th Congress. Democrats have a New Direction that would bring integrity and civility back to the U.S. House of Representatives.”
Slublog on November 14, 2006 at 9:41 PM
Feinstein has her own money machines, mostly outsourced, she would never have needed Abramoff. That said, it would be nice, huh? Now Boxer, she never met a shady deal she didn’t like.
A dream ticket for Abramoff’s outing list:
Clinton
Reid
Dean
Boxer
Biden
Byrd
Durbin
Mikulski
Wow, it’s hard to leave out Schumer, Sarbanes, Rockefeller and Pryor.
Patty Murray and Mary Landrieu get a pass, Kerry and Kennedy get a “who cares”. Massachusetts would vote for those two if they were behind bars.
Freelancer on November 14, 2006 at 9:43 PM
Nancy Pelosi, September 29, 2006
“For months, White House officials have refused to be straight with the American people about Jack Abramoff. Now we know the truth: a disgraced lobbyist traded perks and campaign contributions for special access to the Bush White House.
“The American people deserve better. The Republican culture of corruption is so entrenched in Washington that the Republicans cannot bring themselves to pass lobby reform legislation even in the face of these extraordinary scandals. It’s clearly time for a new direction to restore integrity to Congress.”
Slublog on November 14, 2006 at 9:43 PM
Whoops. Forgot the link on that last one.
Nancy really should have kept her mouth shut.
Slublog on November 14, 2006 at 9:45 PM
Ohhhh, Kennedy. Has to be Kennedy.
Maybe Kennedy will take Kerry with him.
Leahy, too. And Reid. And Durbin.
Schumer? Oh, please God, I’ve been good.
Jefferson is a given. We don’t need Abramoff to do him in.
And McCain - nip that sucker in the bud. There is something…. wrong …with that boy. Ah, oops, not a dhimmicrat. At least, not in name…
Boxer? Nah, she is just all hippy-dippy (Global!)
It will be interesting.
Payback is a… well, you know.
If Michelle can say balls, can I say B-I-T-C-H?
Timothy S. Carlson on November 14, 2006 at 9:45 PM
from Newsbusters: Story by NBC’s Lisa Myers on Murtha…
“Myers concluded with Murtha’s “Swift Boat” defense: “Murtha has repeatedly denied wrongdoing and says these charges amount to Swift-Boating, the same kind of unfair charges that helped defeat John Kerry. Murtha also now supports ethics reform.”
LOL… Sound familiar? I can hear Murtha now, “I voted for ethics reform before I voted against it”.
BacaDog on November 14, 2006 at 9:47 PM
HA! This from the party that allowed Murtha to say on, and Kennedy (drunken! murderer!) and Studds (with a standing O even).
I second, third and fourth that - it is going to be a fun two years… as long as no truly dangerous legislation gets passed.
Timothy S. Carlson on November 14, 2006 at 9:49 PM
Grebrook, it appears, has suddenly gone on vacation.
jaleach on November 14, 2006 at 9:50 PM
I’d be excited if a Democrat was ever punished for corruption or anything for that matter, from Clinton to Berger to Jefferson to Reid, nothing is ever done.
As a matter fo fact, stories like this just showcase the Dems teflon coating, and tick me off even more.
Nothing will happen to any of them.
reaganaut on November 14, 2006 at 9:52 PM
Well, there was that Dem from Ohio with the bad toupee, but that hardly covers it.
Mark V. on November 14, 2006 at 9:54 PM
Not that any of this will matter. They will simply laugh it off and throw out the “dirty attack” phrases and the media will just ignore it all.
Anyone who thinks this is going to accomplish anything has not been paying attention to the last 24 years.
Gregor on November 14, 2006 at 9:58 PM
He’s over at DU, cowering for now.
BacaDog on November 14, 2006 at 9:59 PM
*trying not to count his chickens before they’re hatched*
Just keep in mind folks that no one has been charged let alone convicted yet. Not trying to be a wet blanket or anything, I’m just trying to stick to reality.
Yakko77 on November 14, 2006 at 10:07 PM
Osama Mama Murray? Lord, who’d have figured! ROFL, Murray, Rangle, Kennedy and Reid. 1,2,3,4.
Wonder if Nancy is sleeping well tonight?
BacaDog on November 14, 2006 at 10:10 PM
Its about a week after the election. That means, 103 weeks till the next one. In 103 weeks..ambramoff who?
lorien1973 on November 14, 2006 at 10:11 PM
True Yakko. But Pelosi and a few others from the Lib side made a big deal out of a GOp’er even accepting a contribution from Abramoff. Let’s see how they backpeddle on this one.
BacaDog on November 14, 2006 at 10:14 PM
I pray that it’s the big fish, but she’s probably savy enough to keep her nose clean… But then again… Why is it that violation is barely, if ever, mentioned by the way?
RightWinged on November 14, 2006 at 10:19 PM
Yeah, this should at the least prove to be entertaining!
I almost find myself looking forward to what a bunch of liberals have to say tomorrow about this.
Yakko77 on November 14, 2006 at 10:21 PM
Or homosexuals (Frank) or pedophiles (Studs)or murderers (Kennedy) or troop leaders who left the troops behind (Kerry) or or or …
Wade on November 14, 2006 at 10:21 PM
Wade,
True. Kerry and Kennedy are easy targets, but not a given.
But Hillary - OMG, I forgot about the Queen.
And she’s touting Healthcare again.
Time to break out the mortars - let’s see how long that can stand in one place…
Timothy S. Carlson on November 14, 2006 at 10:31 PM
Heh - I meant to say ’she’, but I said ‘that’.
Must be freudian :D
Timothy S. Carlson on November 14, 2006 at 10:32 PM
I’ll take a shot.
Reid
Kennedy
Durbin
Harkin
Rockefeller
Schumer
Other possibles, Byrd, Feingold, Dodd, Biden, Clinton.
Really, it’s too hard to guess…they’re all corrupt. I hope they get taken down hardcore. They’ve had it coming.
CP on November 14, 2006 at 10:33 PM
Between this and Democrats eating their own over power, perhaps this was Rove’s October Surprise… let the Democrats win a 2-year majority (afterall, he had to get Bush’s reform through) to ensure a victory in 2008 and beyond after the repulsiveness and corruption comes scurrying out from under the rocks that were protected by the media.
Enoxo on November 14, 2006 at 10:39 PM
National Leadership PAC, Leadership PAC of Charles B. Rangel (D-NY)
His DONORS were …..drum roll….
Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians…
aint life weird?
shooter on November 14, 2006 at 10:40 PM
Here are my guesses in no particular order…not that it matters since the MSM will *yawn*
Kerry (MA)
Reid (NV)
Feinstein (CA)
Akaka (HI)
Obama (IL) {Let it be, lord, let it be!}
Lautenberg (NJ)
Murray (WA)
Kohl (WI)
SouthernGent on November 14, 2006 at 10:44 PM
Glass houses…stones…
You know the rest, Nancy.
And seriously, is there any other conservative we’d like to see hit with this scandal more than Rove at this point?
Benaiah on November 14, 2006 at 10:47 PM
Well, at least Drudge has picked it up.
BacaDog on November 14, 2006 at 10:48 PM
…did I just hear some meat being uncovered?
Seems that the Dems aren’t nearly so head-up lately about all this “corruption trial” business. Then gain, the election’s over, point’s been made.
I’d say to appoint a special prosecutor…and go through Congress like a weed-whacker. Let the chips fall where they may. What has a lame-duck president have to lose?
Puritan1648 on November 14, 2006 at 10:48 PM
After pro-Amnesty Martinez gets the appointment over Steele to the RNC I’m voting for throwing Rove under the shortbus.
DANEgerus on November 14, 2006 at 10:57 PM
Maybe Crooks&liars, Kos, Hamster/Hamsher, Atrios, Saint Sullivan and the rest of the cluckheads will take it as seriously as they took the GOP’s misgivings.
Honesty. Integrity. Change.
BWA…BWAHAHHAHA!
Good Lt on November 14, 2006 at 11:00 PM
I’d like to see a change, called Congressional term limits.
reaganaut on November 14, 2006 at 11:10 PM
The Culture of Corruption(D)
John Kerry(D) ($98,550)
Byron Dorgan(D) ($79,300)
Patty Murray(D) ($78,991)
Harry Reid(D) ($68,941)
Tom Harkin(D) ($45,750)
Charles Schumer(D) ($29,550)
Mary Landrieu(D) ($28,000)
Barbara Boxer(D) ($20,250)
Dick Durbin(D) ($14,000)
Hillary Clinton(D) ($12,950)
Ted Kennedy(D) ($3,300)
DANEgerus on November 14, 2006 at 11:11 PM
My liberal friends like to point out that there are a lot more republicans on the Abramoff list than democrats. To this I say, “Why the hell would you lobby more of the party in the minority? That’s not going to get a lobbyist very far.” After all, they are paid to get things done!
Seems like common sense to me.
Troy Rasmussen on November 14, 2006 at 11:13 PM
I noticed Clinton (D-NY) and Murtha (D-PA) weren’t on the list. That doesn’t mean they didn’t take money. It means they didn’t report taking money.
Anyway, the money that most of the people on the list reported is chump change. I’m wondering not just who, but how much.
Some of the names at the top of the list make sense (e.g., Hastert & Reid). Sadly, Congress is a pay-to-play system and there’s no reason to put second-stringers on the payroll.
Some of the names are curious. Rangel? Patrick Kennedy (what is he chairman of or what Indian tribes are in Rhode Island?)? Bob Smith? Really, this is just influence peddling.
My guess as to what will happen: WaPo & NYT find a way to make that evil bastard Rove look like he’s on a witch hunt to take down the saintly grandma-ma Pelosi and avuncular Harry Reid. Afterall, when Randy Cunningham makes nearly $1 million dollars in a shady land deal, it’s a crime. When Harry Reid makes more than that (with a serious conflict of interest), it’s just that he was a little sloppy.
cmay on November 14, 2006 at 11:17 PM
Actually AP …. both Representatives and Senators are Congressmen.
Maxx on November 14, 2006 at 11:25 PM
I think we worked him too hard and ran him out of food. He’s probably out stocking up on more tofu and bean sprouts.
Maxx on November 14, 2006 at 11:36 PM
I can get behind this one.
AZ_Redneck on November 14, 2006 at 11:40 PM
I’ll be disappointed if at least one of New Jersey’s Democrat senators isn’t included on Abramoff’s 6 to 8 list. They have a reputation to uphold after all.
Capp on November 15, 2006 at 12:13 AM
Yeah, this is all nice, but when are we gonna see scalps. Foley got taken out for IMs. Its time Dems got taken out. Stuff like this can’t be allowed to die, like the Kennedy/Soviet thing.
Why should we support conservatives if they won’t protect the integrity of our governement?
Come on. Clinton used every aspect of the executive branch to hurt his opponents. Why can’t we actually enforce the law against ours?
Iblis on November 15, 2006 at 12:40 AM
Capp,
Here, here.
So say us, tradition!
Timothy S. Carlson on November 15, 2006 at 12:42 AM
I’ve been trying to figure that out for the past 6 years. It’s like the dems were made of pure teflon.
I’ve also been wondering when the MSM were going to turn on the dems, purely for the entertainment value and ratings boom that would result.
People would actually buy and read newspapers if they’d actually put real news in them.
techno_barbarian on November 15, 2006 at 1:00 AM
Howard Dean: “This is a Republican scandal.”
Alex K on November 15, 2006 at 1:07 AM
Boys and girls, this news is even better than it sounds! It means that THE REPUBLICANS WILL PROBABLY REGAIN CONTROL OF THE SENATE before 2008!
6 to 8 DEMOCRATS are going bye-bye. Their seats will be vacant.
All it takes is for ONE of those states to have a Republican governor who appoints a REPUBLICAN and the Senate belongs to them. TWO republican govs and the shift is 51-47, Republican with 2 independents who’d vote Democrats.
If Lieberman switches party, then it becomes 52-47-1.
IF Boxer goes down, then Ahnold can give us back the Senate. If it’s Reid, then Gov. Gibbons can give it back.
And if Durbin — the majority whip — goes to the Greybar Hotel (I hope, I hope, I hope) then even though Blagojevich is a Democrat and will no doubt appoint another Democrat, a prominent gun hater and the guy who called our troops Nazi death camp guards will be out of office. And that’s sweet justice for those of us who have family in the service.
Oh, PLEASE let this not be a dream or a fantasy. Please let it be true!!
georgej on November 15, 2006 at 1:49 AM
I forgot about Dorgon. He’s from North Dakota and the governor is John Hoeven — A REPUBLICAN.
It has been mentioned many times how Abramoff hurt the Republicans in this past election. Now, it seems as if it will hurt the Democrats even more.
How sweet it is….If it’s true.
georgej on November 15, 2006 at 2:37 AM
I’ll believe it when I see it!
Until then, I expect the same old double standard - Conservatives, whether guilty or not, will be run through the mill by the Democrats, the media, Hollywood, and television, while Democrats can go out and rape children and get standing ovations and higher positions of authority, can rip people off and get away with it, and can lie to the US citizenry, and rape and assault woman, and get praised for being a great president.
They can lie about not knowing where law records are in a court case then suddenly “discover” those records in the White House after the court case is over.
They can lie, cheat, steal, and on and on, and nothing touches them.
They can engage in blatant racism, using the “N” word on national television, have a history of recruiting for the KKK, and still be elected over and over again to the Senate.
They can attack black conservative candidates with racial slurs and more, and not even see their propaganda machine, the media or Hollywood, even blink!
Democrats are Teflon. The current set up in the US still shows that the media dominates the information pathways and that they favor the Democrats and actually act like claques for them. Hollywood does the same.
Truly, I would love to see the truth about the dirty Democrats actually work against them, but I won’t hold my breath!
William
William2006 on November 15, 2006 at 4:22 AM
Allah:
“Almost”?
I’ll tell you how angry I am over this Martinez thing: Angry enough to call a truce on Ryan Sager.
That’s angry.
Ali-Bubba on November 15, 2006 at 4:27 AM
How are they going to remove senators on just Abramoff’s word? Not going to happen. Even a freezer full of cash won’t do it. Now, fauxtoshopped pictures, that might just do it. … please Allahpundit? For old times sake?
pedestrian on November 15, 2006 at 4:31 AM
Dang straight. But first we bork Martinez.
Ali-Bubba on November 15, 2006 at 4:33 AM
If 6 to 8 Dhimmicr@p senators go to the greybar hotel, it will be an early Christmas for the whole world. Don’t hold your breath, but I personally would love to sing “Jingle Bells” early.
tormod on November 15, 2006 at 5:34 AM
Pedestrian writes: “How are they going to remove senators on just Abramoff’s word? Not going to happen.”
Look up Bob Ney.
And if Abramoff’s word took Ney down, he can down down 6 to 8 very corrupt Democratic Senators, too.
georgej on November 15, 2006 at 6:16 AM
mountainmanbob says,
what are you all excited about? even if Abramoff outs 8 big shot dummocrat senators, what will come of it? the lame-stream media will bury it, deep. none of this excrement ever sticks to dems:
Bubba Clinton commits perjury on a serial basis, allegedly rapes Juanita Broderick, how is he punished? Book deals, millions for speeches, rock-star status, secret service protection for life. yes, he was impeached. but the gutless Republican Rino Senate would not remove him from office.
Hellary Clinton, the president in waiting, (missing billing records, Whitewater, etc., etc.).
Murtha (Abscam) Alcee Hastings (impeached judge), both will advance to leadership positions in the dhimmicrat controlled house of reps.
barney franks (male prostitute ring run from his d.c. apartment) will be new commitee chairman, mark foley? gone.
i can go on and on. the point is;
republican corruption: bad
dhimmicrat corruption: ok
mountainmanbob on November 15, 2006 at 7:31 AM
Unfortunately, this story has no wheels it appears.
Quick scan of the news websites this morning =
ABCnews.com - No mention of Abramoff, although they do still have a link to soundoff on the Foley scandal.
CNN.com - short story only mentioning that Jack is going to prison.
CBSnews.com - same as CNN
NBCnews.com - same as CNN
Foxnews - nothing
Washington Times.com - nothing
Only place where there is a mention of Abramoff linking Dems to scandal is on Drudge.
Looks like this too shall pass.
BacaDog on November 15, 2006 at 7:50 AM
Mountainmanbob wrote: “what are you all excited about? even if Abramoff outs 8 big shot dummocrat senators, what will come of it?”
New Senate: 49 Republicans 49 Democrats 2 Independents who will vote with the Democrats, effectively making the Senate 51 Dems, 49 Repubs.
Suppose 8 Senators do, indeed, get taken down by Abramoff. That means that the those seats are now VACANT. DO THE MATH!
49-8=41 + 2 independents voting with the Democrats or 49 to 43 in favor of the Republicans. Wallah! The Republicans now run the Senate, but only if the seats were to be left vacent until a special election,
Now, the seats WON’T be left vacant for 2 years. So, the states will appoint interrim Senators to represent them until 2008.
3 of the supposed 6 to 8 “very corrupt” Democratic Senators to be named by Abramoff are supposedly Boxer, Reid, and Dorgan. The governors of their 3 states are REPUBLICANS. WE ONLY NEED 1 REPUBLICAN SENATOR APPOINTED and the balance in Congress is 50-48-2 and CHENEY is the tie breaker. And the Republicans are the majority.
If 2 Republican Senators are appointed, then the balance is 51-48-2, and the Republican majority is even larger, at least until 2008.
Now do you see why I’m excited?
Abramoff, who many pundits are claiming was the final nail in the Republican coffin, besides pissing off the Democrats, is going to REVERSE the election results in our favor for the Senate.
It has nothing to DO with the MSM coverage because it will be the Justice Department prosecuting these Senators the way they did Bob Ney. He pled guilty and resigned just before the election. The MSM cannot ignore a Senator resigning and why. Nor can the MSM ignore a Senator being convicted and removed from office.
In addition to the possible take over of the Senate, 8 DEMOCRATS being convicted and removed gives the Republican the PERFECT STORM to recapture up to 8 seats in 2008 plus the chance to label the Democrats as the real “party of corruption, and here’s the proof,” regardless if even NO Republican Senators get appointed to fill the vacancies.
Honestly, Abramoff is the gift that just keeps on giving!!
georgej on November 15, 2006 at 8:01 AM
Bacadog: “Looks like this too shall pass.”
The MSM spiking the story does NOT mean that ABC’s Brian Ross’s story is wrong about Abramoff naming Democrats. Ross, if you remember, was the one who broke Foleygate.
If Abramoff is talking and naming 6 to 8 very corrupt Democrats, the MSM’s spiking the story means squat. Remember, they also spiked Monica, until Drudge broke it.
Believe me, if there is any truth to this whatsoever, then the Democrats are in a world of hurt because the consequences is the probably reversal of the election giving the Senate to the Republicans.
georgej on November 15, 2006 at 8:06 AM
Hey, I’m with you georgej. Cautiously optimistic is the best way I can put it.
I hate to get my hopes up too much though. I’m just tired of being disappointed.
BacaDog on November 15, 2006 at 8:16 AM
eeeeeewwwwww
That headline just sounds dirty.
Tony737 on November 15, 2006 at 8:29 AM
Could we be this lucky? Probably not. However, I wait with baited breath.
Barntender on November 15, 2006 at 9:00 AM
Gee, what doesn’t the AP mention in its story?
I guess the biggest surprise is that it wasn’t written by Jennifer Loven.
Slublog on November 15, 2006 at 9:11 AM
georgej,
who is gonna take down these dem senators? the justice dept?
the same justice dept that allows the new york times, et al to publish classified info damaging to our national security during a time of war? (that used to be called treason, or sedition at the least).
the same justice dept that slapped sandy the burgler on the wrist for walking out of the national archives with classified docs?
i applaud your optimism. however your assumptions assume the justice dept will suddenly display some newfound testerone. i hope you are right.
mountainmanbob
mountainmanbob on November 15, 2006 at 10:17 AM
sorry, that’s testosterone.
mmb
mountainmanbob on November 15, 2006 at 10:19 AM
I question the timing.
frankj on November 15, 2006 at 11:05 AM
Let’s see…Kerry thinks I’m stupid because I was an officer that served in Vietnam…Pelosi thinks I’m stupid to believe she’s going to clean house…only R’s…not D’s…hmmmmmmmmmm…makes me wonder why I have decided to cancel my trip to SF…
areseaoh on November 15, 2006 at 11:16 AM
So Jack boy decides to plea bargain…big surprise there. Yawning, yawning….
honora on November 15, 2006 at 11:35 AM
Here’s an interesting quote that has been attributed to Michael Carroll (NJ Assemblyman). The link I found on the website Enlighten-New Jersey that goes to Carroll’s website is broken, but even if he didn’t say it, it’s interesting in light of today’s news:
lan astaslem on November 15, 2006 at 11:46 AM
…and the academy award goes to….Moral Outrage.
hillbillyjim on November 15, 2006 at 11:53 AM
That would be a cool name for a band, huh? (Moral Outrage!)
hillbillyjim on November 15, 2006 at 11:55 AM
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