San Francisco values
posted at 10:04 am on November 13, 2006 by Bryan
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The incoming Speaker of the House hails from a county that voted:
to impeach both President Bush and Vice President Cheney (which would put Rep. Nancy Pelosi into the presidency), by a margin of 59 to 41.
for publicly financing candidates in state races by raising taxes on corporations and financial institutions, 52-48 (it failed statewide, 75-25, in spite of Pelosi’s voters’ support).
voted down a measure that would have limited the government’s use of eminent domain, thus siding more or less with the widely reviled Kelo decision, 71-29.
and voted against a measure that would have increased the penalties for sex offenders and would have subjected sex offenders to more monitoring, 53-47 (it passed statewide, 71-29 in spite of Pelosi’s voters voting against it).
That SNL parody is funny, but there is such a thing as San Francisco values, and I think it’s fair to say that they’re far out of the American mainstream.
More: The military recruiting ban mentioned in the comments passed last year, 60-40, along with a gun control measure (taken together, that should leave San Francisco totally defenseless against terrorists and criminals).
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Well, we have a commentor here who will be surprised that San Fran values are more than just “[gay] values”.
Esthier on November 13, 2006 at 10:11 AM
Don’t forget that San Francisco also voted to have all military presence removed from the city or some such thing. That was when O’Reilly said something to the effect, ‘fine, when a terrorist attacks them, SF is on their own. Good luck.’ SF got all pissy over that.
Mallard T. Drake on November 13, 2006 at 10:17 AM
Don’t forget that San Fransisco has the highest property value in the country, I think the median house price is $600,000. While the average person earns about $20-$30k. I think the motto “we got ours, so screw you” comes to mind.
lorien1973 on November 13, 2006 at 10:18 AM
I live a couple of towns over from Berzerkeley, and trust me when I say that I have considered duct-taping my head to keep it from expolding.
bbz123 on November 13, 2006 at 10:19 AM
Palamino! Palamino!
stevezilla on November 13, 2006 at 10:24 AM
San Fran (bathhouse) values? WTF, are you kidding me? pelosi’s ONLY interest is how close she can get to the POTUS, if not becoming the POTUS, herself. It fits the meglomanical image of the dhimmicr@p party in it’s present incarnation.
tormod on November 13, 2006 at 10:29 AM
Maybe she’ll have an aneurysm. Maybe if we give them enough rope they’ll all have an aneurysm. That seems to be the White Houses’s election results policy decision.
Griz on November 13, 2006 at 10:32 AM
How could you hate the city that gave us Rice-a-Roni, Haight-Ashbury, the Golden Gate Bridge, and the Tanner’s? Oh, good times, good memories…
JaHerer22 on November 13, 2006 at 10:34 AM
Remind me again. To which country does California belong? I forget already.
GPE on November 13, 2006 at 10:35 AM
Ah, San Francisco…
Where God save the Queen has an entirely different meaning altogether…
Corky on November 13, 2006 at 10:36 AM
Ok, that’s enough with the gay bashing.
Bryan on November 13, 2006 at 10:41 AM
Also, we must not forget that San Francisco is a “Sanctuary City” for illegal immigrants where police are not allowed to a)inquire about a suspect’s immigration status, and b) not pass information regarding information status to federal authorities if they do.
New York Slimes
dung.
Moose Dung on November 13, 2006 at 10:43 AM
California is a country all to its self.
Long Island Pete on November 13, 2006 at 10:45 AM
Bryan, it was just startin to get good….
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-I swear pelosers face really does look like an aneurysm.
.
And SF is just too easy of a target. Their very politics set all this up, they do it to themselves.
shooter on November 13, 2006 at 11:00 AM
I’ll have none of this California bashing. San Diego is a wonderful city.
Theworldisnotenough on November 13, 2006 at 11:01 AM
San Francisco does have a very successful Junior ROTC program in its high schools.
Of course the city is considering cancelling it because of ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ and the fact that minorities can get jobs in the military.
mkstach on November 13, 2006 at 11:02 AM
If I were the National Guard, I’d give San Fransicko the National Guard Finger the next time they need help after an earthquake or some other disaster.
SouthernGent on November 13, 2006 at 11:03 AM
Bay Area voters are one scary lot. Pelosi is the perfect representative for that bunch, hands down. Be assured, however, that there are at least some of us here in CA that are diametrically opposed to pretty much any garbage that spews forth from that womans mouth.
jasnell on November 13, 2006 at 11:11 AM
San Francisco is a wonderful city…except for all of the San Franciscans.
Pablo on November 13, 2006 at 11:20 AM
I thought Lex Luthor took out ‘Frisco’…oppps…sorry…I know how much you ‘Frisco’ people don’t like people to call it ‘Frisco’. Bad manners. Sorry ‘Frisco’.
Limerick on November 13, 2006 at 11:28 AM
Heres the problem with the handgun ban. I don’t think they knew what they were voting for:
Insert your own joke :)
lorien1973 on November 13, 2006 at 11:43 AM
Gun control? Not allowing *any* handguns in homes or businesses in ‘Frisco? That’s gun control? No, it isn’t control, it’s gun prohibition. Have they never heard of the 2nd ammendment? Does the phrase “right to keep and bear arms” have any meaning for them?
dalewalt on November 13, 2006 at 11:51 AM
They don’t allow any guns??
Is that at all legal?
Esthier on November 13, 2006 at 12:00 PM
After a President/VP impeachment, Pelosi could do absolutely nothing and still do a better job than the current clowns.
Oh no! Take lobbyists and special interests out of government? Perish the thought!
Prop 90 was poorly conceived, and would have allowed property owners to sue at the drop of a hat if anything done for the public good affected their land values, creating a great industry for neocons’ hated enemies, the trial lawyers.
As far as the gun control measure, perhaps San Franciscans are aware that a gun in the home is 4 times more likely to be involved in an unintentional shooting, 7 times more likely to be used to commit a criminal assault or homicide, and 11 times more likely to be used to attempt or commit suicide than to be used in self-defense.
If military recruitment wants to feel welcome in a progressive town, perhaps they shouldn’t use deceptive practices– and I’m not only talking about the egregious “we’re not at war” statements, but the kind of fine print that states, for example, none of the recruiters’ promises are binding.
You don’t like San Francisco? Good! Stay out. More good food, culture and beautiful scenery for the rest of us Californians.
Constantine on November 13, 2006 at 12:03 PM
Unless you are suggesting homosexuality is an acceptable life style it should not belong on your protected species list.
MarkB on November 13, 2006 at 12:12 PM
Yes, Constantine, beautiful scenery like the human turd I almost squashed walking down the street last time I was there.
I still like to go, in small doses, but compared to how much I hung out there “back in the day” it’s almost nil.
Nan Francisco has some awesome traits, I just hope the citizens there grow up someday and realize it’s not the town portrayed in the famous song anymore.
The biggest shock is the voting down of the sex offender proposition. That passed overwhemingly statewide. Doesn’t matter though! Just like with prop 187 some a-hole Clinton appointed judge already struck that proposition down-there’s a story fer ya! Why vote when one vermin in a black robe can overturn the will of the people???
NTWR on November 13, 2006 at 12:13 PM
Constantine: Perfect illustration of San Francisco Elitism. Thanks for sharing.
I do agree that Prop 90 was poorly conceived but the general principle was sound.
Regarding the Gun prohibition measure, your stats do not trump the fact that the ban is unconstitutional. I could throw any number of negative statistics your way regarding abortion but somehow I don’t think that would change anyone’s one mind in San Francisco about their supposed constitutional right to kill their unborn kid.
And please, as far as this Californian is concerned, y’all can keep your San Francisco culture. I’m quite happy living down here (14 miles from the nations largest inland naval air base) with people who are actually willing to put their asses on the line for my family’s protection.
jasnell on November 13, 2006 at 12:15 PM
So that (your skewed stats) makes it OK to take away our Second Ammendment Right?
Gee. I was thinking the Constitution meant something.
Esthier on November 13, 2006 at 12:18 PM
Constantine, the economy is absolutely booming; the Dow is above 12k, unemployment is at 4.4%, home ownership is up; did the policies of the ‘current clowns’ have anything to do with that? Did tax cuts create economic growth? Instead, the libs want to raise the minimum wage; whose only effect will be to cause employers to either cut back or raise prices.
And are ‘Friscans aware of the 2nd ammendment? Or the constitution in general?
dalewalt on November 13, 2006 at 12:26 PM
Here’s the summary of the firearms measure:
“Proposition H is an ordinance that would ban the manufacture, distribution, sale and transfer of firearms and ammunition within San Francisco.
Proposition H also would prohibit San Francisco residents from possessing handguns within San Francisco. An exception would allow residents to possess handguns if it is required for specific professional purposes. For example, San Francisco residents who are security guards, peace officers or active members of the U.S. armed forces would be permitted to possess handguns.”
So, you can still own firearms. They just can’t be concealable, and you can’t do weapons commerce in the city. Seems to me that’s still constitutional, though I’m sure the NRA alarmists will be claiming it’s a “first step” to banning guns altogether and will fight it tooth and nail.
Constantine on November 13, 2006 at 12:29 PM
Here is a portion of an interview with Howard Dean on Fox News Sunday.
Now I don’t know about others on this board but hell yeah 100,000 a year does sound like a lot of money. And a lot of people put their kids through college on a lot less. Now we can’t afford the Ivy League colleges like you can, and if 100K is not a lot of money to him then his doctors practice paid a whole lot more then I thought.
Remind me again who the social elites are? So is Mr Dean saying I can expect a sizable pay increase in the coming year once the Dems are fully installed?
LakeRuins on November 13, 2006 at 12:33 PM
Dalewait, San Francisco voters barely seem to be aware that there is a California outside the Bay Area… well, other than when they need money to fund special projects.
jasnell on November 13, 2006 at 12:33 PM
Oh yeah link to Dean’s interview on Fox News.
LakeRuins on November 13, 2006 at 12:34 PM
Constantine, according to your own words –
Then you go on to say –
I just need some clarification, since I was lazy and uneducated and joined the Army. How can residents living within the city be able to own firearms when Proposition H specifically states residents within the city would be prohibited from doing so?
Mountain Soldier on November 13, 2006 at 12:41 PM
Mountain Soldier the key phrase is “handguns” versus any other type of weapon like say .50 caliber sniper rifles or RPG’s.
LakeRuins on November 13, 2006 at 12:43 PM
Right. Ok, so let’s apply the same logic to other types of things. For instance, let’s ban all 2nd and 3rd trimester abortions. Seems to me that’s still constitutional, tho I’m sure the pro-life alarmists will be claiming it’s a “first step” to rolling back Roe-v-Wade altogether and will fight it tooth and nail. Wait.. where did I just hear that?
The Bay Area in general suffers from the disease of Convenient Constitutional Interpretation: whatever doesn’t fit the political agenda of the day is unconstitutional. It’s both maddening and sickening.
jasnell on November 13, 2006 at 12:46 PM
Thanks Lake, I just missed that. God forbid the citizens be armed and able to carry small weapons. I’m a responsible gun owner, handguns included.
Also remember this is the same city that would use firefighters and police to fight terrorism, since the city council would abolish the US military.
Mountain Soldier on November 13, 2006 at 1:01 PM
doh.. “tho I’m sure the pro-life alarmists”… change that to “pro-choice alarmists”… sorry.
jasnell on November 13, 2006 at 1:09 PM
You meant the pro-abortion alarmists, right?
bookwurm322 on November 13, 2006 at 1:14 PM
Constantine, by your own admission, the only ‘Friscan’s allowed to own guns would be security guards, police officers, or active military. Would you please point me to the portion of the Constitution that limits who may and may not bear arms?
Admit it Constantine, S.F. values are decidely socialist in nature. Look at Proposition F (which passed… surprise surprise). Prop F requires all employers to provide paid sick leave; since when is that a right guaranteed under the constitution? The only possible outcome is increased costs for employers which will inevitably lead to higher costs to consumers and/or reduced employment opportunities! Can you tell me, Constantine, where the constitution requires paid sick leave? Or am I just another of those constitution-alarmists?
dalewalt on November 13, 2006 at 1:14 PM
hehe..sorry jasnell…must have posted at the same time
bookwurm322 on November 13, 2006 at 1:15 PM
bookwurm: “You meant the pro-abortion alarmists, right?” yes. my apologies
jasnell on November 13, 2006 at 1:15 PM
As long as San Franciscans promise not to vote in federal elections, I’m game. But as long as San Franciscans are voting to raise my taxes and indoctrinate my kids with left-wing radical ideology, I’ll reserve the right to direct some criticism toward the Bay.
SWLiP on November 13, 2006 at 1:41 PM
… Area.
SWLiP on November 13, 2006 at 1:43 PM
Constantine -
You are aware that Diane Feinstein possesses a concealed handgun permit, aren’t you?
I would bet that Pelosi does also, and most likely a good percentage of the remainder of SF officials.
They feel you’re too stupid to be able to handle such power.
By the way …
Here’s looking forward to reading all the upcoming stories of armed robberies in SF. Criminals now know where to go for safe and easy money.
I can only hope the terrorists catch the same hint.
You won’t find soldiers too eager to run to the rescue.
Gregor on November 13, 2006 at 1:43 PM
(Full disclosure: I live in San Jose, which is about forty-five minutes south of SF. San Jose is larger, and its politics are somewhat less moonbat and somewhat more California Democrat Party establishment, i.e., union, pro-Hispanic.)
The reason San Francisco does not appear to have heard of the Second Amendment is because (a) the federal Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, part of whose territory is California, held in Silveira v. Lockyer that the Second Amendment does not create any rights enforceable by individuals against the federal government; and (b) even if it did, no court has held that the Second Amendment is incorporated under the Fourteenth Amendment, and is thus enforceable against state governments.
For this sorry state of affairs you can thank Judge Reinhart, and those of his colleagues on the Ninth Circuit, who indulged in all manner of bending, folding, spindling, and mutilating of the historical record to find that the Second Amendment only protects a “collective” right of state governments.
The SF handgun ban was eventually overturned as a violation of California’s pre-emption law.
Centerfire on November 13, 2006 at 1:47 PM
Yes, and San Francisco Supervisor Gerardo Sandoval believes that the US doesn’t even need a military. Lovely.
vcferlita on November 13, 2006 at 1:48 PM
As for staying out of San Francisco …
I live 70 miles away and I haven’t been to San Francisco in 6 years. Last time I took my family some homosexual was pretty much having sex with another man … in front of my 4 year old son.
You can have your land of filth all to yourself.
Gregor on November 13, 2006 at 1:49 PM
The Bayarrhea. I love pronouncing it like “diarrhea” around my liberal family members. They pretend not to notice, but they always get that look on their face like they’re sniffing a small turd.
Sorry for all the poo references, they just seem to go hand-in-hand with (stinky)the city by the bay.
NTWR on November 13, 2006 at 1:49 PM
I gladly second that. Outside of SF proper, and LA proper, the Californian population is ‘painted’ with an unfair looney brush.
Gerrymandering dictates the make-up of the CA legislature but the propositions, including the last ones (with the exception of 90/eminent domain), are generally passed in a conservative or balanced way. Not even the ‘tax-the-smokers-blindly’ bill passed. Also not, the Gore/Clinton/Redford deceiving energy bill.
Californians are actually pretty discerning people, in spite of much craziness which originates here. After all don’t forget we’ve got Hollywood too.
Having traveled to San Jose for business for many years, I attest that, outside of SF proper, the places and people are quite sane and normal up there.
Undoubtedly, though, N. Pelosi represents the core of SF, either which way she’ll try to renege on it now. She has a ‘rich’ voting record to prove it.
Entelechy on November 13, 2006 at 1:59 PM
Come on! I’ve lived in California nearly my entire life. It’s a mess. It’s a disaster really. While it’s beautiful from a visual perspective … everything else is about as bad as it gets in this country.
California once again voted down parental notification. They also voted down the eminent domain proposition, apparently feeling they are perfectly fine having their properties yanked out from under them to build Wal Marts.
There is really no defense for what’s happening to this State.
Gregor on November 13, 2006 at 2:10 PM
They could have Gay Pride and EARTH FIRST! and PETA Parades everyday, and I wouldn’t care (I don’t live in SFO, so the noise would be distant)- as long as they understood that you have to DEFEND YOUR COUNTRY.
That they ignorantly abet the newest fascistic Creed of Intolerance, and its avowed gay-bashing, misogynistic dogmas is a stunning piece of wilfull blindness. (As bad as the mental contortionism that Stalin apologists went through after the Soviet-Nazi Pact.) And that they give aid and comfort to the shameless infil-traitors who are attempting to insert into our laws an alien ideology in order to have it slowly replace the shield of the Bill of Rights with their own Sword, without any serious questions, shows the appalling intellectual vapidity and instinctual vacuity of these stolid sleepwalkers.
Those who extend their ‘compassion’ to the point of witless suicide.
profitsbeard on November 13, 2006 at 2:10 PM
It’s interesting to note how just any old, humor-impaired, rightie-schleb, (like me) can riff on rightie cliches because that’s what he knows intimately.
Likewise, SNL can succesfully satorize the Lefties, but their attempts at satorizing us often fails.
(Iowahawk can do both, but that’s because he’s a genius. MENSA-fodder, IMO.)
Kadnine on November 13, 2006 at 2:13 PM
Oh, no- no Walmarts… those are EVIL. Only condos and golf courses and luxury hotels- more tax revenue from those, with the added benefit of employing the new generation of third-world anchor babies.
NTWR on November 13, 2006 at 2:17 PM
The eminent domain proposition was voted down not so much because Californians approve of eminent domain, but because it also attempted to curtail regulatory takings. Opponents of the measure very successfully demagogued the latter point: “If this passes, the state and municipalities won’t be able to pass land use restrictions like zoning ordinances and environmental regulations without paying ransom to developers!”
If an eminent domain reform measure were placed straight-up on the ballot, I’m pretty sure it would pass.
Centerfire on November 13, 2006 at 2:26 PM
Constantine, the troll, must have taken his “stupid pills” this morning — again.
Constantine wrote: “After a President/VP impeachment, Pelosi could do absolutely nothing and still do a better job than the current clowns.”
Doubtful. Democrats are too STUPID to govern this country. They nominated a serial sexual predator, draft dodger and military/CIA hater for President (whose election proved that the opponents of “President Penis” were right all along), and then in 2004, they nominated a traitor/seditionist whose own crew said he would “RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY” when his swift boat would come under enemy fire. Say, did you know that John Kerry served in Vietnam? Four months!
And Democrats can’t seem to grasp that 4.4% unemployment and a DOW over 11,000 means that the economy is at full employment and growing and that Bush’s tax cuts were the right medicine for the CLINTON RECESSION that President Bush inherited.
And they refuse to drum out of their party a KKK Kleagle, who no doubt participated in cross burnings and harassment of African-Americans and who still uses the “N-word”, a gay man who actually HAD GAY SEX with House Pages, not just wrote naughty emails to them, and another gay man (who still sits in the House, BTW) whose boyfriend ran a gay whorehouse out of his House of Rep. office.
Constantine wrote: “As far as the gun control measure, perhaps San Franciscans are aware that a gun in the home is 4 times more likely to be involved in an unintentional shooting, 7 times more likely to be used to commit a criminal assault or homicide, and 11 times more likely to be used to attempt or commit suicide than to be used in self-defense.”
Constantine continue to prove to the world how STUPID and GULLIBLE he is, especially when it comes to firearms. He’s been brainwashed by Handgun Control, Inc (currently hiding behind the name of the “Brady Center”). Everybody with more functioning brain cells that liberals like Constantine have knows that guns in the hands of law abiding citizens SAVE innocent lives and MORE GUNS means LESS CRIME.
Constantine wrote: ‘If military recruitment wants to feel welcome in a progressive town, perhaps they shouldn’t use deceptive practices– and I’m not only talking about the egregious “we’re not at war” statements, but the kind of fine print that states, for example, none of the recruiters’ promises are binding.”
Constantine, like many (if not most) San Franciscans is not patriotic. He’s a hypocrite as he enjoys the protections provided by a strong military, but doesn’t want military recruiters in his town. Guns and soldiers are just too “icky” for Constantine and his crowd.
They expressed their contempt for even those in “The Greatest Generation” who served in WWII by the city council of San Francisco voting down the permanent basing of the decommissioned battleship USS Iowa as a floating museum because it was too “icky” and “militaristic.”
Constantine wrote: “You don’t like San Francisco? Good! Stay out. More good food, culture and beautiful scenery for the rest of us Californians.”
I haven’t visited San Francisco since 1983 and I have no intention to do so in the forseable future. I’d much rather visit San Diego, anyway. But I’ll make a deal with you. YOU keep your stinkin’ traitorous carcas out of northern Illinois and the Chicago metro area, and I’ll CONTINUE to stay away from San Francisco.
A “Press Release” I’d like to see (shamelessly stolen from a usenet poster some time ago) that expresses my contempt for the anti-war, pro-enemy, nature of San Francisco and across the bay, Berkeley. Enjoy!
————
Washington, DC, December 1, 2005 (via TraitorNet)
The Department of the Navy released the following communiqué from Assistant Undersecretary of the Navy for Training and Morale, Lucian V. Patriot:
“The Department of the Navy, speaking for the Department of Defense, accepts with pleasure the application of the City of San Francisco, California, to be the new site of its live-fire training and exercise facility. Since the closing of the Visquenes facility in Puerto Rico, the Navy has been searching for a replacement site for live-fire exercises of Navy and Marine assets, prior to deployment on active duty.
We are pleased to announce that San Francisco, with it’s passage of “Measure I,” to prohibit military recruitment and other measures to “opt out” of participating in the national defense, along with its Bay neighbor, Berkeley, has been selected to permanently host the new San Francisco Bay Area Military Training Facility.
While plans are still in a formative stage, it is expected that the new facility will extend to several sites in the Bay Area. Part of this facility, “The San Francisco Nest of Traitors Live-Fire Training and Exercise Area,” will host intensive urban warfare training, using live ammunition, for segments of America’s military including most units of the United States Marines, Air Force, Army, and of course the US Navy. Projected activities will include finely tuned Tomahawk Missile and army/naval bombardment artillery strikes on buildings such as City Hall, the Transamerica building, and the Embarcadero, which will also be used for amphibious landing training.
Other activities, including live bayonet exercises and massed riflery fire, will be conducted across the Bay in Berkeley at the new “Berkeley Nest of Traitors Live-Fire Training and Exercise Area at USC Berkeley,” on the campus quad for both Marine and Army infantry units, and the use of the Berkeley City administrative center for air-to-ground practice for both Navy, Marine Air, and Air Force squadrons. Other city and university facilities in the Bay Area will be utilized for exercises and will feature use of Marine and Army armored vehicles and rotary winged aircraft.
Separate exercises will be conducted in defense against bio-chemical warfare using live agents in these urban environments. Techniques on urban war fighting in that environment, as well as practice in the offensive use of these weapons, will be taught within the Facility, which in effect, includes the entire San Francisco Bay Area but which will center on the City of San Francisco.
The Cities of San Francisco and Berkeley and university campus at Berkeley, long reservoirs of hatred against the United States military, and ardent supporters of countries and political philosophies hostile to the United States, will also serve a useful morale purpose, giving personal validation to military personnel as they train for insertion to areas of similar anti-US hostility such as Iraq.
Dates to begin operation and the schedule of individual training exercises will be announced shortly.”
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[Sorry about any word wrapping problems that may appear, the document came with embedded CRLF characters which I, hopefully, managed to delete for this posting]
The above “press release” embraces my contempt for the anti-military, anti-Israel, and pro-communist/pro-terrorist sentiment that the majority of San Franciscans and Berkeley residents display on a regular basis.
georgej on November 13, 2006 at 2:49 PM
It is of course ironic that so many San Franciscans would dispense with the military, given their druthers, as many San Franciscans would be the first to find their throats under the knives of our enemies.
SWLiP on November 13, 2006 at 3:05 PM
Maybe not.
Coyote D. on November 13, 2006 at 3:33 PM
I still live in California and it is a third world cesspool as a result of the Invasion from Mexico.
We have cities like Maywood that have taken over by the Mexican mafia and have had the justice department taking over the city councils from the corrupt Mexican puppets. that got elected by Illegal Aliens registered by the DNC, Maldef, and La Raza.
The current Mayor is a former gang banger and a proud member of Mecha. He gives speeches in Spanish despite the citizens passing a prop that requires English only.
I have placed my house on the market and am getting the hell out of this Mexican Province.
This is what is coming to America if GWB and Pelosi get Comprehensive Immigration Reform aka Amnesty for 30 million criminal invaders and counting.
Wyoming here I come.
ScottyDog on November 13, 2006 at 3:36 PM
Too late. Done deal. Nothing we can do to stop it now since the only man who can veto it is in love with it.
This is what we were given as a gift, courtesy of all those conservatives and Independents who voted to punish the GOP. They punished themselves. Brilliant tactic.
Gregor on November 13, 2006 at 3:55 PM
Constantine wrote: “If military recruitment wants to feel welcome in a progressive town”
What is so progressive about stalinism?
Stop using the term progressive to describe yourselves. The lie is getting old and the fish biting that line are the libtard mutual admiration society.
jdkchem on November 13, 2006 at 4:04 PM
From Bush’s meeting at the Oval Office with his new best friends …
It’s getting more sickening each hour. Yet we’re not supposed to get the feeling that Bush is actually enjoying this loss?
It all fits together like the pieces of a puzzle …
And then inter-connects with other puzzles …
And others …
And others …
And just keeps on going until it all makes sense.
Gregor on November 13, 2006 at 4:06 PM
Constantine, you write:
“You don’t like San Francisco? Good! Stay out.”
I intend to. San Jose is quite liberal enough for me, and has the advantage of its street corners not being crowded with panhandlers reeking of urine. I ask only that you kindly cease exporting your city’s political idiocy to the rest of California, and the nation.
Centerfire on November 13, 2006 at 4:17 PM
I generally don’t choose to respond to your rants, CAPTAIN ANGRYCAPS, but this one particular passage from your recent characteristically overlong, poorly referenced, insult-laced screed was beyond the pale.
The current unemployment rate is part of a trend that started during the Clinton presidency; look it up. The amount of trading activity on the stock market has little effect on the lives of average Americans; most don’t own stock, and it doesn’t mean that those who do have seen their stock values increase. Perhaps you could explain how the “Clinton recession” worked… Bush started with a budget surplus, and he and his out-of-control congress ran up a record deficit. Nice work by those guys.
Carry on, and continue to do what you do best, George: embarrass yourself.
Constantine on November 13, 2006 at 4:53 PM
Most Americans? No. Most American households? Yeah, probably.
Allahpundit on November 13, 2006 at 4:58 PM
hell i’m 23 and i have stock
and no i don’t have a trust fund, a nest egg or anything else like that
Defector01 on November 13, 2006 at 5:21 PM
…the *city* didn’t give us Rice-A-Roni…a businessman in San Francisco did. Capitalism. Soon to be outlawed in the City By The Bay.
…Haight-Ashbury, and most of the Sixties, were a gigantic, over-hyped, self-absorbed, morally vacuous *WASTE OF TIME*, from which this country has *YET* to recover….
…one end of the Golden Gate Bridge is on federal property…so *WE* gave the bridge *TO* San Francisco….
…and what the hell is “the Tanners”?
…a city of navel-gazers…their own and other peoples’….
Puritan1648 on November 13, 2006 at 5:36 PM
…can I keep my federal tax dollars out of San Francisco? Too many of them find their way to that Commune By The Bay, which seems to’ve empowered itself to decide how much of the common burdern — defense, cooperation with federal law enforcement on immigration issues, that sort of thing — it feels it will carry.
San Francisco is like France…it’s impressed with itself to the point that it has problems making friends. Why not seceed, fellas? I could almost promise you that, this time, nobody’ll let out a peep….
Puritan1648 on November 13, 2006 at 5:44 PM
thanks Connie
We can use those federal tax dollars
And if SF has that opinion then frankly, lets take the bill o’reilly approach. SF is now open to be blown up; the US military will not protect it and the SF police (the few left you haven’t thrown out of their jobs for doing their jobs you sorry fools) can protect the entire area from osama and all the criminals with guns.
I’m not a huge fan of guns but all you have to do, connie, is see hte british crime rates for everything including homicide. WAYY over ours.
Defector01 on November 13, 2006 at 7:21 PM
There’s a novel everyone should read called Prayers for the Assassin by Robert Ferrigno, set in 2028 or so in an America that has been taken over by IslamoFascists.
San Francisco has been radically changed, with the heads of the executed homosexuals displayed on the Golden Gate Bridge…
There’s a lot more, but you get the idea.
Liberalism has clearly almost destroyed the great city of San Francisco, but it need not destroy the rest of this country and I don’t believe it will.
But we have a lot of work to do and not the kind Nancy thinks.
One of our biggest mistakes in this election was for all of us, from Bush on down, to make a joke of Nancy “measuring her Speaker’s office for drapes.”
The Dems feel that they must back her, no matter what, even though the people didn’t vote for her Left wing of the DNC.
We’ll see how long this marriage of convenience between the moderate Dems and the Leftists will last. I predict not very long.
Jen the Neocon on November 13, 2006 at 8:12 PM
San Francisco is so far to the Left that if they go much further they will fall off the Left Coast into the ocean. Perhaps we can give them a little push …..
omegaram on November 13, 2006 at 10:55 PM
Constantine, the idiot, wrote: “I generally don’t choose to respond to your rants, CAPTAIN ANGRYCAPS,”
Then don’t, asshole. Why don’t you and Grebrook simply STFU.
georgej on November 14, 2006 at 1:38 AM
San Francisco is simultaneously Mecca and Mordor for me. I’m really hoping I can resist its call. It’s a really nice place to visit, and I love its close ties to the tech/Internet community but I don’t know if I could stand the suffocation of its socialist tendencies.
Thankfully, though, it doesn’t really represent California or Democrats.
Oh, and a preemptive war on the first ignoranus to make a crack about Mordor and Mecca being synonymous.
Mark Jaquith on November 14, 2006 at 5:56 AM
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