Breaking: Rudy Giuliani takes ‘first step’ in ’08 WH run

posted at 5:36 pm on November 13, 2006 by Ian

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Meanwhile, Republicans seem to favor him:

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Giuliani is neck-and-neck with Newt Gingrich in November’s ’08 straw poll.


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Rudy vs. the Hildebeast

This is a sequel to the Battle of the Titans that wasn’t.

I could live with President Guiliani.

Pablo on November 13, 2006 at 5:38 PM

The cut-and-run Republicans will not vote for him, but they might vote for Newt.

I have yet to see how Newt got a place on any of these polls. What gives?

DannoJyd on November 13, 2006 at 5:39 PM

Go Guli! Go Guli! Go Go! Go Guli!

Mazztek on November 13, 2006 at 5:42 PM

Guiliani/Newt to balance out guiliani’s liberal social politics. possibly.

lorien1973 on November 13, 2006 at 5:43 PM

I’m sorry, but Guiliani does not excite me much, and he wouldn’t win against Hildebeast.

Enoxo on November 13, 2006 at 5:44 PM

Guiliani/Newt to balance out guiliani’s liberal social politics. possibly.

Nah, Newts got his own “values” problems. Guiliani/Santorum.

Iblis on November 13, 2006 at 5:45 PM

Just means they have something in common to talk about ;) – why’d you start cheating on your wife, Newt? Same as you Rudy. *knowing sighs* LOL

lorien1973 on November 13, 2006 at 5:47 PM

The middle will eat this guy up, and that’s where Presidential elections are won and lost.

He’s clear, he’s strong, and he’s a proven leader without much political baggage and a while lot of capital in the bank.

Guiliani/Steele would beat anything the Dems can throw at them, and they’d do it in the middle.

Pablo on November 13, 2006 at 5:48 PM

Make that a whole lot of political capital.

Pablo on November 13, 2006 at 5:49 PM

Values problems? If our candidate doesn’t have them, the media will make some up to give them. I would love for Newt to announce NOW, and take his lumps about “firing his wife in a hospital bed.” One thing we know for sure is the short term memory of the American voters.

RushBaby on November 13, 2006 at 5:50 PM

Traitor John McCain has 27%???

We’d damn well BETTER make sure that Guiliani wins the primary.

Either that or I get the day off in November of ’08 while I’m at the range.

Misha I on November 13, 2006 at 5:50 PM

Newt could take the nomination but I doubt he could ever be elected. Rudy, on the other hand, could potentially swing enough of the independent vote to actually win.

jasnell on November 13, 2006 at 5:51 PM

Newt has a message. Guiliani/Steele does not.

I probably could be persuaded to vote for Steele, but would a majority of America? I fear not.

Gingrich/Guiliani at best.

DannoJyd on November 13, 2006 at 5:52 PM

Pablo, I’m with you on this one! ;-)
I could definitely live with a President Rudi.
He could beat the cr*p out of Hillary and not break into a sweat…and he’s got real cajones as opposed to her fake ones!
For my money, the personal baggage and liberal stance on social issues are almost not important. What America needs is a Leader and with Guiliani you get that in spades!
RUDI 2008.

Jen the Neocon on November 13, 2006 at 5:54 PM

Newt has a message. Guiliani/Steele does not.

I probably could be persuaded to vote for Steele, but would a majority of America? I fear not.

Gingrich/Guiliani at best.

DannoJyd on November 13, 2006 at 5:52 PM

I hear that. Romney’s pretty good, too. He’s managed a large liberal enclave successfully and may get the moderate votes from that. Ollie North could help us out in many ways…but McCain?????? I second the “WTF?”

NTWR on November 13, 2006 at 5:57 PM

OK, my friends in the middle and the Right, let’s all spell his name correctly, before the Left flies in and notices…

The middle will eat this guy up, and that’s where Presidential elections are won and lost…

Giuliani/Steele would beat anything the Dems can throw at them, and they’d do it in the middle.

Pablo on November 13, 2006 at 5:48 PM

Yes, the middle is where most elections are won these days, short of an impossible-to-build-now 3rd party.

Entelechy on November 13, 2006 at 6:00 PM

Guiliani/Newt ticket? I’m In!

msipes on November 13, 2006 at 6:00 PM

McCain slit his throat when he voted against the Military Commissions Act and sided with the Dems on that amnesty bill they call a “guest worker program”. He will never get my vote…

msipes on November 13, 2006 at 6:02 PM

I’m actually surprised Guiliani has consistently done worse against Hillary in the polls. He has a much higher favorability rating.

Also, if you add Gingrich to the ticket that’ll sap a good 5 points out of Guiliani. Gingrich is despised by the American public. According to the latest Newsweek poll, 58% of the public said they would “never” vote for Gingrich. No one earned a higher percentage of “never” responses.

I honestly don’t see how you can win no matter who you nominate. If you give the nod to extremists like Gingrich or Tancredo, you’ll get massacred by centrists and independent voters.

If you give the nod to Guiliani, pro-life voters won’t come out in strong enough numbers, your numbers will sag and you’ll lose, and it doesn’t matter if you nominate a pro-life VP.

And, of course, if you nominate McCain, the center will vote for him, but your “right roots” activists won’t.

And Romney, Brownback and Frist will simply lose because they’re too conservative. Plus, there is the matter of the question of whether Bush will help the Dems get a good 20 million Democratic voters registered with his amnesty bill by 2008.

In which case it won’t matter who you nominate.

Grebrook on November 13, 2006 at 6:07 PM

I’m actually surprised Guiliani has consistently done worse against Hillary in the polls. He has a much higher favorability rating.

I meant to say, Guiliani has done worse than McCain, in the Hillary-McCain, Hillary-Guiliani matchups.

Grebrook on November 13, 2006 at 6:08 PM

Entelechy,

OK, my friends in the middle and the Right, let’s all spell his name correctly, before the Left flies in and notices…

Eh. Farkin’ Eyetralians! Why so many vowels?!?

Pablo on November 13, 2006 at 6:10 PM

NTWR, I would support Gingrich/Romney or vice versa if the polls didn’t indicate that Romney is a lost cause.

Entelechy, thanks for correcting me on that. Gingrich/Giuliani [doggone phonetics]

Take any anti-McCain comment, and multiply by 3X to get my view on that RINO.

DannoJyd on November 13, 2006 at 6:11 PM

Geez. Grebrook. I guess you’re right. We’ll all just go French now.

I welcome our new Islamic overlords!

You can leave now.

Pablo on November 13, 2006 at 6:12 PM

Grabooger, from your mouth to Satan’s ear, honey!
Guess we might as well welcome the advent of Her Heinous Queen Hillary, huh?
Well, a lot can happen in 2 years and I look at Guiliani and see a winner.
Hill and Rudy will get to have that matchup after all and PIAPS is not going to be the winner this time.
(And you forgot about Allen. He looks like a winner, too. I’d love to see him be the VP on the Rudy ticket or Santorum. If Santorum’s so awful, how come Zell Miller campaigned for him?)
You think the godless, Christian-hating, values-hating proletariat voted your Dems in last week, but they didn’t…not even close. They were conservative, hawkish, anti-amnesty, pro-gun Jacksonian Democrats and Independents.

Jen the Neocon on November 13, 2006 at 6:14 PM

If its Rudy for the GOP, there will be no place for conservatives to turn.

Rudy can’t excite voters any more than Bob Dole did. He is a very lackluster campaigner.

Hillary will win in a landslide, and it will take the GOP a while to recover.

Hillary!/Nancy! in 08.

Labamigo on November 13, 2006 at 6:16 PM

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RushBaby on November 13, 2006 at 6:16 PM

And you forgot about Allen. He looks like a winner, too.

That’s the funniest statement I’ve read all month.

Grebrook on November 13, 2006 at 6:17 PM

He’s clear, he’s strong, and he’s a proven leader…

I think this is key. The parties platforms leave alot of us split, and we realize we are never going to find someone who truly represents us. I select candidates largely on who I consider to be the better man: who is going to stand up for what he believes is right rather that flitter about on the political breezes. Rudy is the man right now. None of the others are even in the ballpark, especially on the Dems.

B Moe on November 13, 2006 at 6:18 PM

And Romney, Brownback and Frist will simply lose because they’re too conservative.

Romney is conservative, but not too conservative for Massachusetts(?) (he says it’s because liberals only like to be liberal with other people’s money, and I agree), Brownback is open-borders so there goes those who like the sovereignty of our nation, and Frist is an empty-suit RINO that is despised by conservatives.

Romney’s the dark-horse, but he will be lampooned by atheists and some hard-core religious folks, too.

NTWR on November 13, 2006 at 6:19 PM

WEEEEE! I like Rudy… I have my money on him all the way.

x95b10 on November 13, 2006 at 6:21 PM

Where is Rudy on the issue of securing our borders? Anyone? Anyone?

thirteen28 on November 13, 2006 at 6:21 PM

Eh. Farkin’ Eyetralians! Why so many vowels?!?

Pablo on November 13, 2006 at 6:10 PM

Pablo, mi amigo loco, watch, he’ll send the Mafia after you :)

On second thought, it wasn’t only the conservatives; the illustrious Grebrook misspelled the name repeatedly.

Entelechy on November 13, 2006 at 6:22 PM

B Moe,

who is going to stand up for what he believes is right rather that flitter about on the political breezes.

Yup. That’s Rudy.

On that alone, I’ll take him over a Clinton or another Bushie.

Pablo on November 13, 2006 at 6:24 PM

Plus, there is the matter of the question of whether Bush will help the Dems get a good 20 million Democratic voters registered with his amnesty bill by 2008.

In which case it won’t matter who you nominate.

Grebrook on November 13, 2006 at 6:07 PM

I don’t know much for sure – this much, however, I do know – nothing ever turns out the way we ideally wish for, no matter who we are, not even if we’re the great Grebrook.

Entelechy on November 13, 2006 at 6:25 PM

Eyetralians – does Rudy have bloodlines from Down Under too?

/teasing

RushBaby on November 13, 2006 at 6:26 PM

I’m calling it Romney/Steele.

I was hoping that the elections of last week would have ended up in court, which would have given Cheney/Perazzi a boost, but alas, that was not meant to be…

Bob Owens on November 13, 2006 at 6:26 PM

Rudy will lose the pot smoker’s vote (that’s a pretty big segment of California, not that they won’t go for Hitlary no matter what.)

NTWR on November 13, 2006 at 6:27 PM

It’s too early for all this, fun as it may be.

However, since the U.S.A. is not a kingdom, nor a benevolent dictatorship, the populace is tired of the Bush/Clinton clans, at least for a cycle or two.

Also, the Right will have to be less righteous and nominate the candidate who can beat the one on the Left.

Security and terrorism will probably play a big role. Much will happen between now and then and we’ll all read/write about it, right here on good ol’ HA.

Entelechy on November 13, 2006 at 6:34 PM

Dems get a good 20 million Democratic voters registered with his amnesty bill by 2008

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There won’t be a vote for Dems in 2008 if that happens, because the former USA will be called Northern Mexico and we’ll be voting for Calderon vs. Guittierez.
20 million new illegals would be a doubling of the Mexican population here now and I don’t think we can absorb or take that many Mexicans…they’re already up to the Canadian border now.

Jen the Neocon on November 13, 2006 at 6:35 PM

Pablo, mi amigo loco, watch, he’ll send the Mafia after you :)

Entelechy, m’love, let’s just cut to the chase and have it changed to Jewliani.
Allahu akbar,
Pablo

Pablo on November 13, 2006 at 6:36 PM

Now, now Pablo, mi amor, if he were Ms. Clinton, he’d claim to have some Jewish in his background. I think he’ll stick to his all-Italian.

I actually don’t know his background fully, but I believe he’s pretty flawed but a man with a spine. For these times, I can live with that very well.

Entelechy on November 13, 2006 at 6:39 PM

Rudy is also a bit iffy on the 2nd amendment (wants a written test before gun ownership, but you already need one in CA for a hunter’s license and a separate one for a handgun), he’s pro-choice, and likes immigration (though I can’t find much on his stance on illegal immigration.)

He did Spic and Span NY though. I just get a little RINO feeling from the guy, which probably makes him more electable.

Gingrich is the only one who has been consistent on his plan and has it out there for all to see.

NTWR on November 13, 2006 at 6:41 PM

Entelechy,

I actually don’t know his background fully, but I believe he’s pretty flawed but a man with a spine.

Is there a man who meets the second condition but not the first?

Pablo on November 13, 2006 at 6:49 PM

I love RUDY for the same reasons I love NEWTIE NEWTIE FRESH AND FRUITY—-but both have too much PERSONAL MARITAL BAGGAGE…for an ignorant electorate, that is. But if they can “look beyond” his personal life (ala— CLINTON) either one would be stupendous. Though I favor NEWTIE.

seejanemom on November 13, 2006 at 6:53 PM

I hear that Romney’s pretty good, too. He’s managed a large liberal enclave successfully and may get the moderate votes from that.

Romney did NOT manage Massachusetts successfully. He signed a bill that socialized medicine but, in a sleazy move reminiscent of Mike Dukakis, delayed implementation of the program until after the elections. Rampant corruption on the Big Dig continued unabated until it killed someone driving through a tunnel. The courts legalized gay marriage by decree and the legislature stymied all attempts to allow the people to vote on it. The legislature continued spending like drunken sailors and overrode Romney’s occasional halfhearted vetoes at will. The legislature also continued to refuse to roll back the state income tax from 5.3% to 5% as mandated by a successful referendum. Whether from fear or ambition, Romney walked away from a run for a second term, leaving the state Republican party to its worst election losses since they began keeping records.

Romney was somewhere between ineffective and disastrous as governor. Once people begin to look closely at his record, his appeal should diminish considerably.

cool breeze on November 13, 2006 at 6:54 PM

Everybody with an iPod go to newt.org and sign up for his podcasts. iNewts are only one minute and thirty seconds long. Plus there are Newt speeches available on audio as well. He addresses just about every important issue you can name. Very inspiring and calming.

RushBaby on November 13, 2006 at 6:56 PM

Rudy Giuliani takes ‘first step’ in ‘08 WH run

…I wonder if he wiped off his wing-tips after….

…it’s not like we’ll have much of a choice in ’08…egos are already inflating for the raft-ride down the swirling drain of history.

The Left’s educated a generation of morons. Nobody’s sparing a thought for the “southern door”, so folks are backing up moving vans and loading our goodies up as we speak. …and I’ve not heard *ANY* name from among the parade of stuffed suits that’ll do *ANYTHING* to fix things…at best, the “usual suspects” will staunch the flow, so’s it decays slightly slower….

…tell ya what! A suggestion: let’s all have Christmas…then worry about ’08…the Season of Hope…

…*then* we can return refreshed to the disaster that is “America under the thumb of people Grebrook’d vote for”.

Puritan1648 on November 13, 2006 at 6:58 PM

I’m with you, Puritan.
Happy Holidays, then all aboard the Nutroot Express for a nightmare trip to hell… Start the calliope music and bring on the John Wayne Gacy clowns.
Ya know, Stephen King announced his support for MoveOn.org just before the election. Coincidence?

Jen the Neocon on November 13, 2006 at 7:07 PM

Happy Holidays, then all aboard the Nutroot Express for a nightmare trip to hell…

…the only consolation is that when this all blows up, the Left will be all surprised. Berlin Wall came down, they were all surprised. They kept talkin’, but they were surprised.

They’ll be the authors of our ruin…but they won’t see it comin’…I just want to be sitting far enough away so’s I can at least have a good laugh without having to duck from the splatter.

Puritan1648 on November 13, 2006 at 7:14 PM

It’s just a WEE bit early to declare anyone a “lost cause” or “unelectable”. Hillary has more baggage than anyone, so let’s not rule out good candidates for fear of having their baggage used against them. Any good candidate will be able to control the message to some extent.

DaveS on November 13, 2006 at 7:14 PM

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I’m all about Christmas too. Maybe Santa will bring us Teddy Roosevelt. Way too early to have any idea. World events could turn this next election on it’s head.

Limerick on November 13, 2006 at 7:25 PM

Maybe some news time will be diverted from PeLousy and the Nancy-Boys.

RushBaby on November 13, 2006 at 7:30 PM

Steele/Steyn in ’08

PaisleyCow on November 13, 2006 at 7:33 PM

Also, is Rudy seriously the best candidate we have? If so, the GOP is in a sad, sad state.

PaisleyCow on November 13, 2006 at 7:34 PM

I like Rudy alot–He stands full-square against IslamoFascist terrorism and that’s what I want above all.
I can sleep again at nights (and I’m gonna be having insomnia for the next 2 years) knowing that it’s Rudi at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. that will our Commander in Chief with his finger on the football.

Jen the Neocon on November 13, 2006 at 7:41 PM

Rudy will cost us the cut-and-run Republican vote as well as the Christian vote. Match him up with Newt for a balanced ticket and even Hitlary won’t be able to lay a glove on that team.

DannoJyd on November 13, 2006 at 7:56 PM

Newt’s a loser. The Dems would love us to pick him–a Right Wing policy wonk.
He had his chance in ’94 and he blew it (except for getting Clintoon to sign welfare reform).
I think Newt has the right ideas, but he’s not electable to anything and Billary would love to crush him, which she & he would.

Jen the Neocon on November 13, 2006 at 7:59 PM

I wouldn’t want him for president because he supports illegal immigration (or at least he did). Secretary of State maybe?

Megan on November 13, 2006 at 8:01 PM

Rudi’s an adult. Not sure where the “charisma of a Dole” comes from, but I’m viewing him through having read his book Leadership, which is full of spine, loyalty and focus. Jen’s also right about his strength on IslamoFascism, a problem which is coming on bigger and faster.

Newt also has those qualities, and he also has one trait which may sway some on the Dem side – a sincere committment to alternative energy, but not in an envirowacko way. Just looking for economically viable ways of lessening our Saudi-Chavez needs.

Frist is a great guy, but doesn’t impress me in a slugfest.

And Allen’s campaigning style seems to have tripped enough times it can’t be just MSM sniping.

But a year+ is a long time before anyone has to hit full stride, so this is just fun speculationatin’.

eeyore on November 13, 2006 at 8:08 PM

Newt/Steele is a great ticket. I’ll take Giuliani as a second but he has NY social values which leaves him a little less desirable to me than Speaker Gingrich.

Psycotte on November 13, 2006 at 8:11 PM

We have to stop worrying about who’s electable, who has baggage etc. If a strong conservative runs on conservative issues, people will follow. Look at Reagan. Most of this country has conservative values, and people are tired of republicans being terrified to voice conservative opinions. This is the time to step up for repubs. I’m thinkin Newt baby. Gingrich/North 08!

bmac on November 13, 2006 at 8:20 PM

Newt could place himself as a victim of liberal lies by making it a point to talk about all of the seventy five ethics counts they had branded him with. Seventy four had no merit what-so-ever, and the 75th ended when the IRS decided that Newt had broken no laws. For every bit of bagage that the liberals try to place in his way he can respond by talking about one of the false ethics counts that liberals lied to America about.

Want to talk about Newt’s girlfriends? OK. Newt married them. How terrible!

Over the years, Newt has been a positive force that pushed conservative ideology. He has earned his chance as the Republican candidate for President.

DannoJyd on November 13, 2006 at 9:00 PM

My dream ticket: Giuliani/Steele. Rudy’s a national hero. Plus he ran New York City. Running the nation should be a walk in the park.

I could also, theoretically (in my best SWAG analysis – that’s “scientific wild-assed guess), put Steele within reach of the White House in ’16. I remember back in 1988, a political analyst named Frank Jones said the first black in the White House will be a conservative. I’ve tended to believe him for all these years.

Or maybe Newt would work, too. He’d be the first president who had a his own set of paper dolls.

Regardless. . GO RUDY!

Gottafang on November 13, 2006 at 9:45 PM

Danno, I agree with you on Newt and the ethics witchhunt and the Clintonista paragons of morals and ethics. They couldn’t lay a glove on him because their ‘troops’ excuse any and all which Mr. Clinton did or imagined. Also, to have Newt on the ticket would make the Libs furious, especially the Clinton camp.

Is there a man who meets the second condition but not the first?

Pablo on November 13, 2006 at 6:49 PM

On the first condition, we’re all flawed, and should, thus, not be so judgemental. On the second, physically, I hope not. Figuratively, my friend, oh so many. And many are in Wash. D.C. or want to be. Pure jellyfish for spines! No, thank you!

Entelechy on November 13, 2006 at 9:51 PM

I’m voting for Rudy. Steele VP.

Steele is very strong in the public events. He radiates strength and competence. Regardless of his resume etc, I think he would be thstrongest running mate because people will vote for him, and very few will vote against him as would happen with Newt.

forest on November 13, 2006 at 9:57 PM

Dont you guys know it doesn’t matter who the Republican candidate is? The libs and MSM will villify them and create “baggage”. There is no contest between Newt and any of these other guys. The man HAS a plan. Its in his recent book. He also has a track record. Newt is a true American patriot and statesman, these other cats are just posers.

RobertCSampson on November 13, 2006 at 9:59 PM

RobetCSampson, agree with you. Let him run and he still needs a running mate. It will all sort itself out. We must, however, remain practical and not idealistic in the abstract. Winning with strong leaders for these times is the ticket!

Entelechy on November 13, 2006 at 10:02 PM

Sorry, s/b Robert :(,

Entelechy on November 13, 2006 at 10:03 PM

I like Rudy, but what is he for beyond the New York 9-11 leadership? He was not popular with the Politburo (how ever you spell that Soviet group). I have nothing against Rudy at all, I like the way he sounds, but what is there?

Negative, is that he is from New York, maybe I am being prejudice about people who do not live in New York, but perhaps they don’t like New York politicians, image as sleazy or something like that? Will the rest of the USA be able to relate to a New Yorker?

Heard Mitt Romney on Sean Hannity, tonight, driving home. He sounds interesting. Seems to have some sort of determination. I don’t know much about him beyond some blurbs and name recognition. Mitt said it is too early, wait till after all the holidays.

Then McCain, I can’t turst him, he might be too old, and been through a lot, what about mental stability. He holds finger up in the air, he can go any direction.

Newt, has it all out in the open. People will get his message, perhaps over look things and think things will get done, but will they trust him?

All in all, the debates will filter out some, the press will create bad things about people and filter some more. We can end up with people we never even thought of at this moment. Perhaps people we like and discover we don’t like them.

StuLongIsland on November 13, 2006 at 10:44 PM

I’m all about Christmas too. Maybe Santa will bring us Teddy Roosevelt. Way too early to have any idea. World events could turn this next election on it’s head. —
Limerick

…every now and then, if you wait, you’ll be rewarded with someone making perfect sense.

We’re all afire about “Who Looks Great In ’08″…two years in these days of instant communications, gratifications, and obfuscations, is a *VERY* long time.

…the horse may die, or the king may die, or I may die…or the horse may talk….

Puritan1648 on November 13, 2006 at 10:45 PM

My Governor President is a Jewish cowboy. Kinky for Prez!

JollyRoger on November 13, 2006 at 11:26 PM

Puritan1648…

I liked the “maybe the damn horse can fly” version ;).

JollyRoger on November 13, 2006 at 11:27 PM

Lets see now,,,
He’s for gun control…
He’s for abortion on demand…
He’s for affirmative action….
He’s for gay marriage….

OK he is tough on terrorists and crime.
But what OTHER conservative credentials does he have?

If need be,,, I’ll hold my nose and vote for him..

Tom N on November 13, 2006 at 11:52 PM

Romney is a talking suit. Frist is boring. McCain can’t be trusted and is too old. Gingrich unfortunately is just not very likeable.

The Republicans need a candidate that can attract votes across party lines. Rudy Giuliani is perfect. He understands the stakes and is a real person when he talks.

The worst thing Republicans could do is “go back to their base” for ’08 and let the most inflexible Christian wing veto who’s acceptable as a candidate.

I have nothing against the Christian wing, but this is a bad time to cede the “center” to the Dems.

modifiedcontent on November 13, 2006 at 11:59 PM

Gingrich isn’t likeable? Thats hilarious.. Even Whoopi Goldberg likes him. Don’t “go back to their base”?? You are kidding right? For your edification, the “base” to which you refer is whats left of America and the principles it was founded on. You can have your “center” all day bro… just not here in the good ole U.S. of A.

RobertCSampson on November 14, 2006 at 12:37 AM

I have nothing against the Christian wing, but this is a bad time to cede the “center” to the Dems.

modifiedcontent on November 13, 2006 at 11:59 PM

Nevertheless, this is exactly why the Dems won the last election. It was the “core” that brought Republicans to power in the first place. Although Republicans won many races in ’04, the conservatives (who were courted during that time) did not. The real conservatives came out in droves to bring the Republicans to power. The party has lost touch with that and guess what…they lost.

thedecider on November 14, 2006 at 1:22 AM

Giuliani?!

He is the one who supported the “turn in your neighbor” gun control campaign in NYC. Meanwhile NYC was paying two armed body guards to protect Judi Nathan (Rudy’s GF).

AZ_Redneck on November 14, 2006 at 1:27 AM

Newt’s a loser. The Dems would love us to pick him–a Right Wing policy wonk.

Oh, believe me, he will be the Republican nominee for president in 2008. If not, then Brownback or Tancredo, none of whom are electable. The primary is going to be fantastic for how nasty it gets. Guiliani and McCain are going to get savaged by the Club for Growth and social conservatives and whoever makes it out alive is going to be severely damaged goods.

Grebrook on November 14, 2006 at 1:28 AM

There are some things I definately don’t like about Giuliani; his anti-2nd amendment stance for one. But I have to give him points for being a damned good leader at a time NY needed a leader. Could you imagine what would have happened had someone like a Kerry, or a Clinton, or a Nagin been Governor during 911? He’d get my vote, but only becuase he’s a strong leader and we need more of those right now.

wolfva on November 14, 2006 at 1:37 AM

I’m throwing my hat into the ring:

MOMinuteman in ’08…

2nd amendment – If you want a Ma Deuce and can afford to feed it and aren’t a psycho, why not??

The Border – 20′ wall with gun towers every 1/4 mile, a 500 meter deep mine field in front of it with a 500 meter killzone behind it and orders to shoot to kill anyone who makes it through the mines.

The Jihad on America – We kicked the dogsnot outta over 2/3 of the world 60 years ago, and we are MUCH more industrially capable now. Time to ramp up, go balls to the wall, and settle it. And if it comes down to it, nuke ’em all and let Allah sort ’em out.

The rest of the world doesn’t like us – SCREW ‘EM! With a little re-structuring, we can get by just fine without them, but the reverse is not true for them. A couple of weeks of empty bellies might make them realize we ain’t all that bad. And it’s better to be our friend than not. The U.N.?? OUTTA HERE!!! And if China and Russia don’t like it, tough. China doesn’t have the equipment to take us on, and don’t tell me about millions of conscripts, a couple of SSBN’s will solve that problem. And Russia’s crap is so old and worn out that most of it doesn’t work due to lack of funds to matain it.

Abortion – Condoms are a cheaper form of birth control and a lot less physically and psychologically painful than abortion, but it’s your body, who am I to tell you what to do with it?? But Partial Birth and Late-term abortions are nothing more than murder with the screams muffled.

Special interest groups – I am a simple country boy with simple needs. If I can’t get by on around $300k a year, something is severely wrong, and I feel that the rest of the government would be better off with more folks with similar needs.

Taxes – The economy is going like crazy with all tax cuts, so why not make them permanent??

Did I hit the high points that everybody is worried about?? Just relax, enjoy a Happy Thanksgiving and a Merry Christmas, and Vote For Me in ’08!!

MOMinuteman on November 14, 2006 at 1:40 AM

I would only vote for Rudy as a hold-my-nose-and-vote candidate if it was him and Hillary in the race. I have no doubt he would be a great guy for defense and terrorism fighting, but he is socially way too liberal for me. If a liberal congress gave him a gun ban bill or a warmed over brady bill I have no doubt he would sign it……and that would suck.

quax1 on November 14, 2006 at 3:48 AM

Grebrook sez:

Oh, believe me, he will be the Republican nominee for president in 2008.

Believe you? But you’re a proven moron, and notably full of crap! Why would anyone believe you?

Pablo on November 14, 2006 at 5:44 AM

Newt!!!

Listen here folks..then you tell me.

http://www.newt.org/multimedia/default.asp?mi=324

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on November 14, 2006 at 10:46 AM

I like what I have seen of Rudy so far and he would likely pull some moderate and independent support, but having seen Newt’s 10 points recently I am convinced he is the man to advance conservative ideas.

He’ll need to address the expected values concerns early and pair up with a running mate to neutralize the issue (a la Clinton/Gore).

MRegine on November 14, 2006 at 12:57 PM