Pelosi endorses Murtha for majority leader

posted at 7:56 pm on November 12, 2006 by Allahpundit

What better way to assuage fears about Democrats being too dovish and anti-military than to back America’s foremost spokesman for cut and run — who once famously pronounced Haditha a case of murder “in cold blood” while the investigation was still ongoing?

We’re off to a good bipartisan start here:

“Your strong voice for national security, the war on terror and Iraq provides genuine leadership for our party, and I count on you to continue to lead on these vital issues,” Pelosi wrote Murtha Sunday in a letter obtained by The Hill. “For this and for all you have done for Democrats in the past and especially this last year, I am pleased to support your candidacy for majority leader for the 110th Congress.”…

“Nancy told me some time ago that she would personally support Jack. I respect her decision as the two are very close,” Hoyer said in a statement. “I am grateful for the support I have from my colleagues, and have the majority of the caucus supporting me. I look forward to working with Speaker Pelosi as Majority Leader.”…

One Democrat supporting Hoyer, who asked to remain anonymous, said the letter signaled desperation in the Murtha camp.

“It appears to me that Murtha had to pull Nancy forward because he was behind in votes,” the Democrat said. “This is not a surprise he was very important to her. [But] it’s a secret ballot and Steny has a lot of diverse support.”

I’ve got video of Dean-o and Reid from this morning’s gab shows talking about Vietnam and reviving the Reed-Levin “cut and jog” plan. Standby for the update. While you’re waiting, read Alaa: “Democrat or republican, America has no option but to find a way to win this war. All real Americans must be as sure of that as all real Iraqis.”

Update: We had recording problems this morning so we didn’t get Carl Levin telling George Stephanopoulos that withdrawal should begin in four to six months. We did, however, get Dean on Fox News Sunday and Harry Reid on Face the Nation; neither one of them is proposing a timetable, although Reid does sound warm to Levin’s idea — if the generals agree.

He also wants a regional conference involving Syria and, presumably, Iran. And you know what? He just might get one. Says Moran:

The Iranians don’t only want us defeated. They want the US humiliated. Any negotiations with the mullahs will be long, drawn out, and designed to show the world how powerless we are to affect events in the region. In the meantime, our soldiers will continue to die, the Iraqi government will continue to dither, and the body count of civilians will spiral upwards.

Phased withdrawal my ass. If we have decided to bug out, let’s leave as quickly as possible. If victory is not to be had at any price then it is immoral to keep our men and women in harms way simply to appease domestic sensibilities. Yes Iraq will devolve into madness and chaos. We can deal with that situation in the context of the War on Terror. Asking someone to put their life on the line for no reason save assuaging the consciences of politicians is stupid.

And Steyn, the pessimist di tutti pessimists:

[W]e’re in a very dark place right now. It has been a long time since America unambiguously won a war, and to choose to lose Iraq would be an act of such parochial self-indulgence that the American moment would not endure, and would not deserve to…

“These Colors Don’t Run” is a fine T-shirt slogan, but in reality these colors have spent 40 years running from the jungles of Southeast Asia, the helicopters in the Persian desert, the streets of Mogadishu. … To add the sands of Mesopotamia to the list will be an act of weakness from which America will never recover.

Update: Dean and Reid won’t propose a timetable. Will Tony Blair?

Update: IraqPundit considers four options. Reed-Levin is not his favorite:

Withdrawing U.S. troops as quickly as possible while leaving security concerns to the Iraqi government, an option favored by such newly empowered Democrats as Sen. Carl Levin, would almost certainly lead to unmitigated disaster. It’s easy to wag one’s senatorial finger in Maliki’s ineffectual face. But what about the Iraqi civilians who are at his mercy? A U.S. that abandons Iraqis to religious butchers would be finished in the Middle East for the foreseeable future.

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most “obnoxious democrat/moonbat/foreign america hater” poll
Cindy Sheehan, hands down.

Then Warren Churchill is a close second.

kiakjones on November 13, 2006 at 12:34 PM


There’s plenty of room for doubt.

That’s quite a list. There’s one more piece of the puzzle that belongs on it, especially in this thread:
Haditha: Wuterich sues Murtha for defamation

Murtha should be retiring, not running for majority leader.

Pablo on November 13, 2006 at 12:40 PM

That bastard had her murdered, proving that Dems condone both murder at the end of life as well as the beginning.

Michael Schiavo was a self-declared Republican. The autopsy proved that she was in a permanent vegetative state because a portion of her brain had melted over the years and turned into spinal fluid, thus making it impossible that she could ever recover.

I don’t expect religious crackpots to understand that though. Someone in this thread openly supported the idea that God struck 3,000 Americans dead in New York so that the U.S. would send more aid to Israel. It’s obvious that a lot of people here are closeted members of the Fred Phelps brigade.

Grebrook on November 13, 2006 at 1:00 PM

I just read the Steyn peice in full. He’s dead right, and it’s depressing.

thirteen28 on November 13, 2006 at 1:14 PM

Yeah, we’re the fanatics.

Grebrook on November 13, 2006 at 12:56 AM

I could agree with you just once Grebrook, if you’d agree that there are fanatics on both sides – and that’s why the independents swing just about every election of late. Let’s see if you can do it…

Entelechy on November 13, 2006 at 1:28 PM

Murtha should be retiring, not running for majority leader.

Pablo on November 13, 2006 at 12:40 PM

No joke. A liberal told me just the other day that Republicans were kicked out because of corruption. If that were actually true, ABSCRAM Murtha would have a footprint on his rear.

Esthier on November 13, 2006 at 2:19 PM

Michael Schiavo was a self-declared Republican. The autopsy proved that she was in a permanent vegetative state because a portion of her brain had melted over the years and turned into spinal fluid, thus making it impossible that she could ever recover.

Again, no, that isn’t true. I read the autopsy, and it said no such thing.

It said her brain was small, which would imply that she had brain damage, but it could not definitively conclude that she was indeed brain-dead.

Esthier on November 13, 2006 at 2:20 PM

It’s obvious that a lot of people here are closeted members of the Fred Phelps brigade.

Grebrook on November 13, 2006 at 1:00 PM

That’s funny, Grebrook.

I’m sure you know (as most do) that Phelps is not only a registered Democrat but that he also campaigned for both Clinton and Gore (even housing staffers at his place), but that he even ran as a Democrat.

It’s soooo hilarious that you would confuse a bunch of Righties with such a liberal loon like Phelps.

Esthier on November 13, 2006 at 2:22 PM

Mark Steyn has an excellent (if depressing) column out today. Nicely encapsulates what this election will mean in the long term when it comes to where America stands (or lies) in the world.

And domestically, it should be an interesting two years coming up in the Congress.

OK, American electorate, no allowance for “buyer’s remorse” here: you wanted “San Fran Nan” – even though 50% of you don’t even know who (not to mention what) she is – and now you’ve got her! Yes, you’re in for an education alright … if I’m Hillary, I’m going to be worried lest Nancy & Harry get so carried away and make such a hash of things by 2008 that they sink my chances for my red-carpet return to the White House.

Yet for all this talk of “bi-partisanship,” does anybody really expect that the donkey party’s leadership is going to change its spots? They can conceal what they are for a time, but they can’t change their fundamental essence any more than that proverbial scorpion that stings the unwitting frog when they’re halfway across the river.

It’s as predictable as a “one-two-three” waltz:

1. They’re going to mistake marginal majorities in the House and Senate for a “mandate.”

2. Next they’re going to assume it’s OK for them to drop the “moderate/conservative” schtick they adopted for the elections, and start saying what they really think.

3. Then they’re going to start acting on what they say.

And even if the donkeys wanted to be more “moderate” – which Pelosi’s picks for leadership posts clearly indicate they don’t – their base and their incurably BDS-inflicted puppet masters in the media would never put up with such nonsense now that they’re in charge and can let the mask slip. They smell political blood, they want “revenge,” and they’re not going to be satisfied until (and maybe not even then) a Robspierre-style reign of terror against Republicans in general and the administration in particular is firmly in place in the Capitol.

I give them perhaps a month, six weeks on the outside, before the pre-impeachment investigation subpoenas issue and the witch-hunts begin in earnest.

Let the waltz begin!

Spurius Ligustinus on November 13, 2006 at 2:41 PM

It’s obvious that a lot of people here are closeted members of the Fred Phelps brigade.

That was you doing the gay bashing the other day, wasn’t it Grebrook? Mehlman, right?

You’re a maggot, Grebrook. Your mother must be proud.

Pablo on November 13, 2006 at 3:20 PM

Murtha reminds me of Sheriff Andy Griffith on steroids.

And as like as a character played at the beginning of Andy’s career… a faux ‘good ole boy’ huckster who was out for for himself, as Murtha and the ‘peace now’ clique, are out for: “We must retreat our way to security!”.

And the hell with the fate of the nation.

One further undermined as a result of such a demonstration of its leaders’ ignorance and its people’s lack of will.

If you stumble into a cave with a wildcat, having expected gold, you must instantly decide who is coming out alive.

Or plan to be pointlessly shredded as you run away.

Strike from strength, or wait for weakness.

A double-edged sword.

profitsbeard on November 13, 2006 at 10:09 PM

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