A group of Iraqis and a Saudi have been shopping various countries to find a court they can sue the US in, and found one that they can pull it off in: Germany. German law allows for a concept called “Universal Jurisdiction” which allows for prosecuti…

2) Isn’t any legal action taken in any EU nation valid automatically in all the EU? Therefore, Rumsfield and Co. will never ever be able to step foot in Europe again or risk the Pinochet treatment.

3) Continuing on the theme, if trhe SecDef is open for egal action, then ANY US soldier could be arrested if in EUrope. REsult, Europe becomes no-man’s land for US troops, depriving the US military of transit zones, tactical support and redeployment options.

4) Hello people! This is all a tactic of WAR to cripple our military, the movement of our military and the conduct of our military leadership. If the Democrats actually cared about America as a nation, they would be loudly condeming this and circling the wagons, but no … they gloat in it. They want to use this to whittle the GOP to a thin reed, unable to function as a political party and no threat in 2008 to Hillary’s scorched earth campaign.

If any of the countries involved are unsure of the extent of German authority, I can assure them that it does end at the beginning of my property line.

Then again, there might be some merit in the charge. After all, if there is *ANY* people on the face of the Earth with proven expertise in the field of outrage, systemized murder and war criminality, it’s the Germans in particular, and the modern Europeans in general.

I am of German heritage, and also spent time stationed there in the US Air Force. Since they hate us so damned much, let’s pull out. How come the Democrats don’t scream about us being in places like Germany and South Korea for 50 years?

let’s get the hell out and let the German’s economy rot in hell. I don’t think the democratic civilians in the USA realize how much we support their economy, it wil collapse if we leave. Many towns and viallges will cease to exist in germany and many othe rcountries if we pull out.

This is the tahnx the USA gets from most all countries.
F’em!

Actually, it was not. These are a different set of circumstances. Note that proposed venue is NOT the International Criminal Court which is an offshot of the Nurembrug tribunals. The proposed venue is the legal system of a single European country.

And the motivation is “GET BUSH!!” BDS, nothing else.

Bill C has the right idea. Introduce a bill that cuts foreign aid, and prohibits imports and exports or business investiment in any country that (1) indicts, (2) sues, or (3) begins any legal proceedings against any current or former official or member of the Armed Forces of the United States. The proposed bill should refuse recognition of juridistion of any country that attempts to serve process on or extradite OR ARREST any current or former official or Armed Forces member.

If the Democrats either kill, defeat or table such a bill, George W. Bush and the Republicans have a campaign issue that will put the Democrats out of power for years to come.

If the Democrats join is passing such a bill, the Center for Consitutional Rights and the ACLU will be forever barred from continuing with this mischief.

Just so I’m clear…The same people who claim that America is imperialist, arrogant, overeaching its authority, etc., are the ones who want to extend German legal juridiction over the whole world?

Wasn’t the last person to try that…oh, why go there?

Coyote D. on November 11, 2006 at 12:43 AM

This was a direct result of Nuremburg. You can guess the motivation.

The Center for Consitutional Rights is a grantee of Soros’ Open Society Institute.

Yes indeed. The engine behind this propaganda is the communist left. This is the American branch of the hate America crowd, and the Germans aren’t going to dirty their hands with this nonsense. But why is an American “Constitutional Rights” group looking to a 4th country to litigate American treatment of 3rd country prisoners? What does this have to do with Constitutional rights?

I’ve got to say that the notion of the Germans declaring themselves worthy to judge all others on their treatment of prisoners is pretty amusing.

I se e [sic] Janis Karpinski will be testifying as well This basically looks like the same bunch of people who did that weirdo mock “impeachment hearing” in the Capitol.

You mean the same “bunch of people” that will soon be appointed chairs of U.S. House and Senate committees? If they don’t get satisfaction in Germany, they’ll try again here. Heck, even if Germany does their bidding, they’ll probably go for a “double whammy” here as well.

Wasn’t the last person to try that…oh, why go there?

Bill, remember what happened at the Gates of Vienna on Sept. 12, 1683.

Jihad denied.

I can assure you that neither the Poles nor the jihadis have forgotten.

That’s why OBL selected Sept 11.

After my tours in Viet Nam, I was stationed there from 1971 to 1974 and they didn’t like us then, long before either Bush was in office or our entry into Iraq.

We don’t need troops in Germany or Europe. We should redeploy “nearby,” and could always “rapidly re-enter” from elsewhere, if need be.

If the US had even a moderatley strong leader, we would be sending our military to arrest Saddam’s Euro allies and they would be put on trial in the US.

Donald Rumsfeld should be tried for war crimes. Why? Well, because the lawyers trying the case are going to have one hell of a time winning, that’s why….