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	<title>Comments on: NYT puff piece on Ellison slams &#8220;Muslim-bashers in the blogosphere&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Dec 2006 06:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Allowing Radical Islam Into Our Midst...&lt;/strong&gt;

Radical Muslim&#039;s first American politician, Mr. Keith Ellison, not only won in Minnesota but he won big with our MSM who love him. They love him so much they can&#039;t even believe anyone would be upset that he plans on......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Allowing Radical Islam Into Our Midst&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Radical Muslim&#8217;s first American politician, Mr. Keith Ellison, not only won in Minnesota but he won big with our MSM who love him. They love him so much they can&#8217;t even believe anyone would be upset that he plans on&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Webloggin - Blog Archive &#187; Allegiance To Islamerica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Webloggin - Blog Archive &#187; Allegiance To Islamerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 20:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Others Bloggin on this Subject:  Hot Air Blonde Sagacity [...]</description>
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		<title>By: eeyore</title>
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		<dc:creator>eeyore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 04:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction to post above about Ellison crowd shouting &quot;takfir.&quot; They were shouting &quot;takbir&quot;, which means &quot;Shout Allahu Akbar!&quot;

My mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction to post above about Ellison crowd shouting &#8220;takfir.&#8221; They were shouting &#8220;takbir&#8221;, which means &#8220;Shout Allahu Akbar!&#8221;</p>
<p>My mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Allowing Radical Islam Into Our Midst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Allowing Radical Islam Into Our Midst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 21:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jihadi Du Jour</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jihadi Du Jour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 20:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Sheep Have Spoken...&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#039;m officially a basher.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Sheep Have Spoken&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m officially a basher&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: profitsbeard</title>
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		<dc:creator>profitsbeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Koran&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; is &lt;strong&gt;a book that calls for the violent overthrow of all infidel states&lt;/strong&gt;, governments, and nations, to &quot;swear&quot; upon it is sedition.  

And such a (pre-emptive) &#039;oath&#039; instantly negates and contravenes the &#039;taken&#039; oath itself (...to &quot;defend the Constitution&quot;... in essence), because to the&lt;em&gt; believing &lt;/em&gt;Muslim, the only &#039;constitution&#039; is the Koran.  And the only law is Allah&#039;s, come down through time as Sharia Law.

This is treasonous infil-traitor subversion of the government and a clear assault on the Constitution, &lt;em&gt;done openly, &lt;/em&gt;and &lt;em&gt;applaudly suicidally &lt;/em&gt;by the historically-nescien,t self-blinding Oedipal Press and self-loathing nihilistic Media.

Why they want to betray- &lt;em&gt;by giving away national security secrets to the self-declared jihadist enemy during open war, and are now wilfully ignoring the imperialistic dogmas (Sura 9:5 ,etc.&#039;s  &#039;dominate the infidels&#039; dictates) in the &#039;sworn on&#039; Koran&lt;/em&gt;- and why they seek to slowly destroy &lt;em&gt;the only-adequately-armed-and-mobilized &lt;/em&gt;defense position left for freedom in this world is baffling.  It you have any sense of self-preservation.

It seems like a kind of masochistic &lt;em&gt;purity rit&lt;/em&gt;ual that leads only to a cultural headstone.   And epitaph:

&lt;strong&gt;Here Lie Those Whose Instincts Died&lt;/strong&gt;

(&lt;em&gt;I swear upon my own Koran (1956 Penguin) that the militant followers of this warlord&#039;s playbook will be glad to do the burying&lt;/em&gt;.  &lt;strong&gt;And, unlike Ellison, I&#039;m actually telling the truth&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the <em><strong>Koran</strong></em> is <strong>a book that calls for the violent overthrow of all infidel states</strong>, governments, and nations, to &#8220;swear&#8221; upon it is sedition.  </p>
<p>And such a (pre-emptive) &#8216;oath&#8217; instantly negates and contravenes the &#8216;taken&#8217; oath itself (&#8230;to &#8220;defend the Constitution&#8221;&#8230; in essence), because to the<em> believing </em>Muslim, the only &#8216;constitution&#8217; is the Koran.  And the only law is Allah&#8217;s, come down through time as Sharia Law.</p>
<p>This is treasonous infil-traitor subversion of the government and a clear assault on the Constitution, <em>done openly, </em>and <em>applaudly suicidally </em>by the historically-nescien,t self-blinding Oedipal Press and self-loathing nihilistic Media.</p>
<p>Why they want to betray- <em>by giving away national security secrets to the self-declared jihadist enemy during open war, and are now wilfully ignoring the imperialistic dogmas (Sura 9:5 ,etc.&#8217;s  &#8216;dominate the infidels&#8217; dictates) in the &#8216;sworn on&#8217; Koran</em>- and why they seek to slowly destroy <em>the only-adequately-armed-and-mobilized </em>defense position left for freedom in this world is baffling.  It you have any sense of self-preservation.</p>
<p>It seems like a kind of masochistic <em>purity rit</em>ual that leads only to a cultural headstone.   And epitaph:</p>
<p><strong>Here Lie Those Whose Instincts Died</strong></p>
<p>(<em>I swear upon my own Koran (1956 Penguin) that the militant followers of this warlord&#8217;s playbook will be glad to do the burying</em>.  <strong>And, unlike Ellison, I&#8217;m actually telling the truth</strong>.</p>
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		<title>By: Blog-o-Fascists</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blog-o-Fascists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 03:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;NYT Whitewashes CAIR&#039;s Candidate, Slams Blogosphere...&lt;/strong&gt;

Little Green Footballs

Again the New York Times comes to the defense of radical Islamic candidate Keith Ellison, in a slobbery puff piece that does not even mention his links to CAIR, and blithely brushes past his history with the Nation of Islam as i...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>NYT Whitewashes CAIR&#8217;s Candidate, Slams Blogosphere&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Little Green Footballs</p>
<p>Again the New York Times comes to the defense of radical Islamic candidate Keith Ellison, in a slobbery puff piece that does not even mention his links to CAIR, and blithely brushes past his history with the Nation of Islam as i&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: NoisyRoom.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; NYT Whitewashes CAIR&#8217;s Candidate, Slams Blogosphere</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoisyRoom.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; NYT Whitewashes CAIR&#8217;s Candidate, Slams Blogosphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 02:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Allahpundit also weighed in on this one: NYT puff piece on Ellison slams “Muslim-bashers in the blogosphere”. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: auspatriotman</title>
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		<dc:creator>auspatriotman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 19:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Pablo and EFG as soon as you come off your hemp try reading &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theage.com.au/news/war-on-terror/alqaeda-chiefs-reveal-world-domination-design/2005/08/23/1124562861654.html?oneclick=true&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The 7 Step Plan &lt;/a&gt;for world domination and then over to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/24/wbin124.xml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Americans Like Pepsi, We Like Death.&quot; &lt;/a&gt;mmmk? 

And then if you bright ones want to do your own home work check the U-Tube for some interesting videos and then if you really don&#039;t want to be talking through your assholes read this &lt;a href=&quot;http://prophetofdoom.net/chapter.aspx?g=401&amp;i=41003&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;exhaustive commentary &lt;/a&gt;on the Koran and moe-ham-ud the pervert. mmmmK?  

And if its asking too much to *read* it for yourselves--hey--there&#039; audio!! Only don&#039;t smoke the hemp or read dailykos before you start listening. It&#039;s asshole remarks like yours that are going to put this nation to seed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Pablo and EFG as soon as you come off your hemp try reading <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/war-on-terror/alqaeda-chiefs-reveal-world-domination-design/2005/08/23/1124562861654.html?oneclick=true" rel="nofollow">The 7 Step Plan </a>for world domination and then over to <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/24/wbin124.xml" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Americans Like Pepsi, We Like Death.&#8221; </a>mmmk? </p>
<p>And then if you bright ones want to do your own home work check the U-Tube for some interesting videos and then if you really don&#8217;t want to be talking through your assholes read this <a href="http://prophetofdoom.net/chapter.aspx?g=401&amp;i=41003" rel="nofollow">exhaustive commentary </a>on the Koran and moe-ham-ud the pervert. mmmmK?  </p>
<p>And if its asking too much to *read* it for yourselves&#8211;hey&#8211;there&#8217; audio!! Only don&#8217;t smoke the hemp or read dailykos before you start listening. It&#8217;s asshole remarks like yours that are going to put this nation to seed.</p>
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		<title>By: Tel-Chai Nation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tel-Chai Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 16:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Keith Ellison, Islam&#039;s member of Congress...&lt;/strong&gt;

This week, Minnesota elected black Muslim Keith Ellison to US Congress, something that even Muslims in Gaza celebrated (Hat tip: Hot Air). This is someone that all pro-Israelists are advised to look out for, since he&#039;s being celebrated by CAIR as wel....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Keith Ellison, Islam&#8217;s member of Congress&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>This week, Minnesota elected black Muslim Keith Ellison to US Congress, something that even Muslims in Gaza celebrated (Hat tip: Hot Air). This is someone that all pro-Israelists are advised to look out for, since he&#8217;s being celebrated by CAIR as wel&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 12:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Muslims have to be given the option of being Moderate if we actually want any of them to be Moderate.

EFG on November 10, 2006 at 5:48 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
EFG, good post. We are never going to simply eliminate the core belief system of 1.5 billion people, and should we try we are only going to be rightfully viewed as their enemy. They need to be talked out of it, or at the least talked out of the especially nasty parts of it. They have to start talking each other out of it, and they will if they are properly educated and motivated to do so. 

Those Muslims who want to turn away from the middle age portions tenets of Islam must be encouraged to do so, not condemned as our enemies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Muslims have to be given the option of being Moderate if we actually want any of them to be Moderate.</p>
<p>EFG on November 10, 2006 at 5:48 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>EFG, good post. We are never going to simply eliminate the core belief system of 1.5 billion people, and should we try we are only going to be rightfully viewed as their enemy. They need to be talked out of it, or at the least talked out of the especially nasty parts of it. They have to start talking each other out of it, and they will if they are properly educated and motivated to do so. </p>
<p>Those Muslims who want to turn away from the middle age portions tenets of Islam must be encouraged to do so, not condemned as our enemies.</p>
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		<title>By: bookwurm322</title>
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		<dc:creator>bookwurm322</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 06:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;sharia is unconstitutional becaus eit violates the equal protection clause. Women are not given the same legal status as men.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Very true. However, the ACLU can be very selective as to which portions of the Constituion they uphold at certain times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>sharia is unconstitutional becaus eit violates the equal protection clause. Women are not given the same legal status as men.</p></blockquote>
<p>Very true. However, the ACLU can be very selective as to which portions of the Constituion they uphold at certain times.</p>
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		<title>By: shooter</title>
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		<dc:creator>shooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 02:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;CAIR&#039;s spokesman Ibrahim Hooper supports the abolition of the U.S. Constitution and the imposition of Sharia law. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nuff said. Nuke CAIR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>CAIR&#8217;s spokesman Ibrahim Hooper supports the abolition of the U.S. Constitution and the imposition of Sharia law. </strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Nuff said. Nuke CAIR.</p>
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		<title>By: Ripclawe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ripclawe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 01:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ellison is going to be looked at closely and if he slips he will get caught. The explanation that he didn&#039;t understand at the time the anti-semitic nature of the N.O.I among other things leaves me incredulous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellison is going to be looked at closely and if he slips he will get caught. The explanation that he didn&#8217;t understand at the time the anti-semitic nature of the N.O.I among other things leaves me incredulous.</p>
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		<title>By: JackM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JackM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 00:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If that is the case, having someone swear on someone else’s scriptures doesn’t serve much purpose.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Perhaps the congressmuslim should swear his oath on an AK-47, or a stick of dynamite, or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If that is the case, having someone swear on someone else’s scriptures doesn’t serve much purpose.</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps the congressmuslim should swear his oath on an AK-47, or a stick of dynamite, or something.</p>
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		<title>By: JadeNYU</title>
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		<dc:creator>JadeNYU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 00:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand what would be gained by having people that don&#039;t believe in the Bible swear an oath on the Bible.

I could be incorrect, but, it seems to me that the purpose of having someone swear an oath on a book of scripture is that the oath will supposedly mean more to them.

If that is the case, having someone swear on someone else&#039;s scriptures doesn&#039;t serve much purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand what would be gained by having people that don&#8217;t believe in the Bible swear an oath on the Bible.</p>
<p>I could be incorrect, but, it seems to me that the purpose of having someone swear an oath on a book of scripture is that the oath will supposedly mean more to them.</p>
<p>If that is the case, having someone swear on someone else&#8217;s scriptures doesn&#8217;t serve much purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: seejanemom</title>
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		<dc:creator>seejanemom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 23:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe someone should make a movie about him being assasinated to see the NYT’s reaction. You know, to reflect the times we live in and all.

I’m just saying. 

SouthernGent&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, well I&#039;m just sayin&#039; that I&#039;ll donate the props. I have a .308 that the last action it saw was a warthog on the plains of South Africa. Hope he won&#039;t mind the whole PORK GUN thing....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Maybe someone should make a movie about him being assasinated to see the NYT’s reaction. You know, to reflect the times we live in and all.</p>
<p>I’m just saying. </p>
<p>SouthernGent</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, well I&#8217;m just sayin&#8217; that I&#8217;ll donate the props. I have a .308 that the last action it saw was a warthog on the plains of South Africa. Hope he won&#8217;t mind the whole PORK GUN thing&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: EFG</title>
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		<dc:creator>EFG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 23:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops.  The last and second to last sentence are in opposite order.

&lt;blockquote&gt;He never tries to whitewash them. He confronts them, and says any attempt to modernize Islam must recognize the existance of these verses and refute them.

I think he’s right. 

And don’t worry. I’m not gonna try to pull some Rosie O’Donnell style “equivalence” BS here.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops.  The last and second to last sentence are in opposite order.</p>
<blockquote><p>He never tries to whitewash them. He confronts them, and says any attempt to modernize Islam must recognize the existance of these verses and refute them.</p>
<p>I think he’s right. </p>
<p>And don’t worry. I’m not gonna try to pull some Rosie O’Donnell style “equivalence” BS here.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: januarius</title>
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		<dc:creator>januarius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 23:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I hear what you are saying about the Ugly American. I’ve spent some time overseas, and believe it or not, in my limited experience, it was the Americans who were the most polite, and the European tourists who were the most disrespectful. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Amen! I have story after story about obnoxious, arrogant Europeans and Canadians.  Americans, on the other hand, always seem to make a good impression because we know the stereotype.

My favorite stories are about obnoxious Canadians with their flags on their backpacks, ironically pointing out they are not Americans.

I&#039;ll tell you a funny story about an obnoxious German, but I got to run to class right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I hear what you are saying about the Ugly American. I’ve spent some time overseas, and believe it or not, in my limited experience, it was the Americans who were the most polite, and the European tourists who were the most disrespectful. </p></blockquote>
<p>Amen! I have story after story about obnoxious, arrogant Europeans and Canadians.  Americans, on the other hand, always seem to make a good impression because we know the stereotype.</p>
<p>My favorite stories are about obnoxious Canadians with their flags on their backpacks, ironically pointing out they are not Americans.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll tell you a funny story about an obnoxious German, but I got to run to class right now.</p>
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		<title>By: EFG</title>
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		<dc:creator>EFG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 23:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregor, I agree, there are some very serious, profound differences between Islam and Christianity.

Robert Spencer has a very straight forward, no BS sort of way of dealing with the issue of the violent verses.

He never tries to whitewash them.  He confronts them, and says any attempt to modernize Islam must recognize the existance of these verses and refute them.

And don&#039;t worry.  I&#039;m not gonna try to pull some Rosie O&#039;Donnell style &quot;equivalence&quot; BS here.

I think he&#039;s right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregor, I agree, there are some very serious, profound differences between Islam and Christianity.</p>
<p>Robert Spencer has a very straight forward, no BS sort of way of dealing with the issue of the violent verses.</p>
<p>He never tries to whitewash them.  He confronts them, and says any attempt to modernize Islam must recognize the existance of these verses and refute them.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t worry.  I&#8217;m not gonna try to pull some Rosie O&#8217;Donnell style &#8220;equivalence&#8221; BS here.</p>
<p>I think he&#8217;s right.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 23:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference between Islam and the Crusades:

&lt;strong&gt;Terror&lt;/strong&gt; was created by a radical and barbaric prophet who instructed his followers to murder and destroy all non-believers.
The Islamic Qur&#039;an instructs it&#039;s followers to murder all non-believers.

&lt;strong&gt;The Crusades&lt;/strong&gt; was caused by radical and barbaric people who happened to be Christians.
The Christian Bible instructs it&#039;s believers to love all non-believers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference between Islam and the Crusades:</p>
<p><strong>Terror</strong> was created by a radical and barbaric prophet who instructed his followers to murder and destroy all non-believers.<br />
The Islamic Qur&#8217;an instructs it&#8217;s followers to murder all non-believers.</p>
<p><strong>The Crusades</strong> was caused by radical and barbaric people who happened to be Christians.<br />
The Christian Bible instructs it&#8217;s believers to love all non-believers.</p>
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		<title>By: EFG</title>
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		<dc:creator>EFG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 23:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Christianity does not kill people who do not believe in it.
(Please don’t throw the Crusades at me, you’ll be sorry) 

Freelancer on November 10, 2006 at 6:21 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Come on man, give me &lt;em&gt;some &lt;/em&gt;credit.  I wouldn&#039;t pull that sort of dishonest crap about the Crusades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Christianity does not kill people who do not believe in it.<br />
(Please don’t throw the Crusades at me, you’ll be sorry) </p>
<p>Freelancer on November 10, 2006 at 6:21 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Come on man, give me <em>some </em>credit.  I wouldn&#8217;t pull that sort of dishonest crap about the Crusades.</p>
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		<title>By: EFG</title>
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		<dc:creator>EFG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 23:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;januarius on November 10, 2006 at 6:08 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I hear what you are saying about the Ugly American. I&#039;ve spent some time overseas, and believe it or not, in my limited experience, it was the Americans who were the most polite, and the European tourists who were the most disrespectful.  Every American has heard about the &#039;ugly American&#039; slur, so most of them do their best to combat it.

But the Europeans?  Some of those guys were waaaaaay uglier in their actions than any American.

As to the issue of the Koran/BIble situation.

Personally, I wouldn&#039;t swear an oath on a Buddist Holy book.  I&#039;d use nothing, or just affirm.  Given the option, I&#039;d ask for a Bible.  But if they didn&#039;t have it, I&#039;d just afirm.

Historical Trivia.  After WWII, several war crime trials took place that involved Japanese Officers as witnesses.  I believe it took place during the trial of Tokyo Rose, although I could be mistaken.  Anyway, the issue of having a non-Christian Japanese officer swearing an oath with or without the Bible came up.  In the end, the court decided that even though the actual word of the law said (I think) swear on a Holy Bible, that wasn&#039;t really necessary.  I think the Japanese Officer said he wasn&#039;t Christian, and he didn&#039;t believe in the Bible, but he did recognize it as a Holy Book.  The Officer then said he didn&#039;t really have a problem with swearing on it, but it really didn&#039;t matter to him, because his word was contingent upon his honor as a Japanese Officer, and his word was his bond.

In the end I think the court recognized this, and they said Japan had the same concerpt of perjury as we did, except that they just didn&#039;t use a Bible, and basically they decided to just move on and not let this little thing throw them for a loop.  I don&#039;t actually remember if he swore on a Bible or not, but it seemed to be a moot point.

Having said that, I think the law in North Carolina &lt;em&gt;might&lt;/em&gt; have written itself into a corner there.  I&#039;m not sure, but I think that they might not even offer the opportunity of just afirming without a Holy Bible.  And I think part of the reason for this impase is that the law says &quot;Holy Bible&quot; instead of Holy Book or something like that.

Anyway, it seems like the easiest thing is just to allow them to either swear on the Koran, or let them Afirm without any sort of Scripture.  Demanding them to swear on a Bible seems to be a losing position, and not really defendable in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>januarius on November 10, 2006 at 6:08 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I hear what you are saying about the Ugly American. I&#8217;ve spent some time overseas, and believe it or not, in my limited experience, it was the Americans who were the most polite, and the European tourists who were the most disrespectful.  Every American has heard about the &#8216;ugly American&#8217; slur, so most of them do their best to combat it.</p>
<p>But the Europeans?  Some of those guys were waaaaaay uglier in their actions than any American.</p>
<p>As to the issue of the Koran/BIble situation.</p>
<p>Personally, I wouldn&#8217;t swear an oath on a Buddist Holy book.  I&#8217;d use nothing, or just affirm.  Given the option, I&#8217;d ask for a Bible.  But if they didn&#8217;t have it, I&#8217;d just afirm.</p>
<p>Historical Trivia.  After WWII, several war crime trials took place that involved Japanese Officers as witnesses.  I believe it took place during the trial of Tokyo Rose, although I could be mistaken.  Anyway, the issue of having a non-Christian Japanese officer swearing an oath with or without the Bible came up.  In the end, the court decided that even though the actual word of the law said (I think) swear on a Holy Bible, that wasn&#8217;t really necessary.  I think the Japanese Officer said he wasn&#8217;t Christian, and he didn&#8217;t believe in the Bible, but he did recognize it as a Holy Book.  The Officer then said he didn&#8217;t really have a problem with swearing on it, but it really didn&#8217;t matter to him, because his word was contingent upon his honor as a Japanese Officer, and his word was his bond.</p>
<p>In the end I think the court recognized this, and they said Japan had the same concerpt of perjury as we did, except that they just didn&#8217;t use a Bible, and basically they decided to just move on and not let this little thing throw them for a loop.  I don&#8217;t actually remember if he swore on a Bible or not, but it seemed to be a moot point.</p>
<p>Having said that, I think the law in North Carolina <em>might</em> have written itself into a corner there.  I&#8217;m not sure, but I think that they might not even offer the opportunity of just afirming without a Holy Bible.  And I think part of the reason for this impase is that the law says &#8220;Holy Bible&#8221; instead of Holy Book or something like that.</p>
<p>Anyway, it seems like the easiest thing is just to allow them to either swear on the Koran, or let them Afirm without any sort of Scripture.  Demanding them to swear on a Bible seems to be a losing position, and not really defendable in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernGent</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthernGent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 23:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The MSM will yawn when he refuses to take the oath on the Bible.  I wonder if he&#039;ll get offended at the prayer that open the sessions?

Hmmm...anyone wanna bet he&#039;s on the Intelligence Committee.  Those liberals would just love to say, &quot;See!  We can trust them!&quot;  (Unless they want to run the ports).

Hypo.crites</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MSM will yawn when he refuses to take the oath on the Bible.  I wonder if he&#8217;ll get offended at the prayer that open the sessions?</p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230;anyone wanna bet he&#8217;s on the Intelligence Committee.  Those liberals would just love to say, &#8220;See!  We can trust them!&#8221;  (Unless they want to run the ports).</p>
<p>Hypo.crites</p>
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		<title>By: Gregor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 23:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But assuming a Muslim stated that he did not consider himself bound by those violent verses, and rejected them, would we consider this a Moderate Muslim?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How could this person claim to be Muslim if they reject the Qur&#039;an?  

Can a Christian say &quot;I reject the teachings of Christ, yet I&#039;m a Christian?  Yes.  They can SAY it, but that doesn&#039;t mean they are a Christian.

My point is ... you&#039;re either a Muslim (follower and believer of Islam and the teachings of Mohammed), or you are not.

We are so busy trying to be politically correct that we are making up new words that don&#039;t have meaning ... such as &quot;moderate Muslim.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But assuming a Muslim stated that he did not consider himself bound by those violent verses, and rejected them, would we consider this a Moderate Muslim?</p></blockquote>
<p>How could this person claim to be Muslim if they reject the Qur&#8217;an?  </p>
<p>Can a Christian say &#8220;I reject the teachings of Christ, yet I&#8217;m a Christian?  Yes.  They can SAY it, but that doesn&#8217;t mean they are a Christian.</p>
<p>My point is &#8230; you&#8217;re either a Muslim (follower and believer of Islam and the teachings of Mohammed), or you are not.</p>
<p>We are so busy trying to be politically correct that we are making up new words that don&#8217;t have meaning &#8230; such as &#8220;moderate Muslim.&#8221;</p>
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