MSNBC Poll: Should Bush be impeached?
posted at 7:00 pm on November 10, 2006 by Ian
I’m not surprised by the results, nor by the way the answers were worded:
Get ready for the liberal blogs to call this a mandate.
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6.7% believe the man has done “absolutely” nothing wrong.
see-dubya on November 10, 2006 at 7:10 PM
These polls are subject to internet losers who sit home all day re-voting 55,000 times.
More Snotty Nonsense By Commies.
NTWR on November 10, 2006 at 7:15 PM
Over 350,000 responses? I’m surprised MSNBC can attract so many people…or is Olby sitting at his desk in the dark voting over and over.
thedecider on November 10, 2006 at 7:16 PM
I’m in the 6.7%.
Let’s see, margin of error…3%
Survey says…84% of those surveyed went to a shitty public school.
seejanemom on November 10, 2006 at 7:19 PM
What a biased load of crap.
Can we vote licenses away from news stations?
MSNBC has just equalled Al Jazeera in its level of honor. ZERO.
or maybe it’s MS13NBC
shooter on November 10, 2006 at 7:19 PM
More like 84% of those people are from DU.
EnochCain on November 10, 2006 at 7:22 PM
Ward Churchill and Ned Lamont didn’t have anything going on today, maybe it was them behind the keyboard all day.
lowandslow on November 10, 2006 at 7:27 PM
I’m just waiting on Media Matters to put out another report on how conservative Chris Matthews is. Just have to point to this poll and laugh at them.
Seixon on November 10, 2006 at 7:32 PM
WOOHOO! As I am a firm believer in being a uniter and not a divider, I support Impeaching Bush!
Bush has abandoned me, America, and conservative values. I no longer have any reason to support Bush.
DannoJyd on November 10, 2006 at 7:35 PM
There’s a link to that poll on DU, which I followed and promptly voted to support impeachment.
If you’re going to send the Kos kids to bed without any dessert, where’s the fun if you don’t show them the dessert that they are missing out on?
rw on November 10, 2006 at 7:42 PM
2 years of this crap while AQ is out there trying to commit heinous acts of mass murder here and in Europe. The idiocy of the Left coupled with the self-righteousness of some on the Right is going to lead to a disaster of historic proportions.
TheBigOldDog on November 10, 2006 at 7:43 PM
Since we’re on the subject of MSNBC, I should report that Reverendissimo Ted Haggard is Still Gay.
see-dubya on November 10, 2006 at 7:44 PM
“Survey says…84% of those surveyed went to a shitty public school.”
Ah, a fresh breath of conservatism elitism. If a liberal lawmaker had this made this statement you would have gone wild about “arrogant, snobby liberals looking down their noses at average Americans”.
Then again, since you can’t even win elections in MONTANA, it strikes me as amusing that you bother pretending to speak for average Americans.
Grebrook on November 10, 2006 at 7:45 PM
You obliviously have some misplaced anger issues you need to work out.
Bush did not lose the election for all Republicans. Republican on the whole lost the election for Republicans. To say that this is all Bush’s fault is ignorant, shallow, and shrill.
We lost by not being conservative enough. In that you have an element of truth.
However to Impeach the President over the loss of a mid-term election is to throw the baby out with the bathwater. To my knowledge there is no proof of any impeachable offenses. Nor do I believe that there are going to be any proof to be found.
Your shrill bush hate is reprehensible, and to scream impeachment for the loss of an election is ignorant.
E L Frederick on November 10, 2006 at 7:48 PM
This is your opinion as a voter, not presumptive evidence that Bush has committed high crimes and misdemeanors warranting impeachment.
You have one reason to support Bush: He is the duly elected President of the United States.
To speak of anything else is about you and not about the country or our highest executive.
(These paint-huffers from VDare or wherever–Sheesh.)
Jen the Neocon on November 10, 2006 at 7:51 PM
How about a HotAir poll on the public opinion of MSNBC …..
Question: Do you think MSNBC is biased in their reporting of the news?
O Yes, between Hardball and Countdown, having guests with a conservative viewpoint are avoided like the plague, giving plenty of evidence this network is biased.
O No, because Lawrence O’Donnell yelling “Liar, Creepy Liar” was totally justified because the traitorous swiftboat veterans were out to get Kerry, a war hero with three purple hearts.
O No, Olbermann, the modern-day Edward R. Murrow, always speaks the truth.
O I don’t know, I spilled my Koolaid.
fogw on November 10, 2006 at 7:51 PM
Eh, this poll means nothing. It is a self selected survey, which means it is absolutely meaningless in terms of figuring out what is the national mood.
EFG on November 10, 2006 at 7:53 PM
I don’t know if someone already mentioned this… but not only is this just some lame non-scietific poll from MSNBC.com… but it’s the type that Kos and others regularly “freep”. They, and other liberal blogs post a link to send all of their readers there to vote for the most far left answer in the poll… you know, because that’s what the cool kids do! Believe me, they do this very regularly.
Ian, you may want to add this bit of information to your post so that readers who aren’t familiar with this situation are aware. I remember us laughing at these ridiculous things in the old ETL days. Yeah, there shouldn’t be anyone who doesn’t get what happened here, but sadly there are. The lefties will laugh and think it’s great… folks like us know what crap it is… but to a casual reader they may think “Wow, I can’t believe this many people really think he should be impeached… He must really be bad!”
Obviously it’s not your responsibility to smack sense in to every idiot… but the problem is there are millions of these kind of people, and it was just these types who’s votes put the Dems over top this last round.
RightWinged on November 10, 2006 at 7:57 PM
My cat crapped outside today.
I now have as much pertinent info for you as MSNBC. At least my info , or the ‘content’ of my info, has some real value to the lawn.
shooter on November 10, 2006 at 8:00 PM
President Bush went public [Wednesday?] in pushing his reprehensible Illegal Alien Amnesty bill that does nothing towards closing the border. Indeed, his efforts makes it easier for terrorists to enter with their munitions. Impeachable Offence!
As a MIGOP volunteer I did more to keep republicans in office than any other poster here. I might be wrong, but who else worked daily to get out the vote? As we lost the House we also lost the last chance to make real strides in keeping America safe.
I do not hate Bush. I just refuse to support a person who has abandoned me.
The time for partisonship is at an end. Americans have voted. The time has come to reach across the isle, and Impeach Bush! :oP
DannoJyd on November 10, 2006 at 8:00 PM
It does tell you what the Left’s base will be pushing for.
TheBigOldDog on November 10, 2006 at 8:01 PM
FROM ACE !!
Where you been , AP?
shooter on November 10, 2006 at 8:06 PM
Danno, it’s not an amnesty bill and President Bush at least addressed the problem literally on national TV no less. He’s the first President to even tackle this problem in a real way at all.
It’s Congress that failed to act, not the President. Impeach them.
And it’s “reaching across the aisle
Jen the Neocon on November 10, 2006 at 8:06 PM
DannoJyd:
The New York Times will be contacting you for a feature story in three, two, one…
I’ll even predict the headline: “Amid Reeling Conservatives, a Rising Tide of Impeachment Talk Becomes a Flood”
I’ll help them out with a quote: “What a colossally, magnificently, repugnantly stupid idea.”
see-dubya on November 10, 2006 at 8:09 PM
The part of the poll that cracks me up, is the 1.9% that actually took the time to vote “I don’t know”. Why bother?
still468 on November 10, 2006 at 8:10 PM
I don’t think that there is anything in the world that would solidify us more than to have to support Bush through an impeachment attempt. This would be a whole different animal than what Clinton went through, and the world would be a better place in 2008 because of it. And we really do need something to gather around again – I hate seeing fellow conservatives eat their own like what I’ve seen in the past couple days.
Savage on November 10, 2006 at 8:15 PM
Trolls……trolls…..where is my betsy?……got a special troll sight. Barrel bend slightly downwards to hit the little bas****s. You have never heard a squeel like a troll squeel. Not since ‘Deliverence’ anyway…..here trolly trolly…come to pappy…..look trolly trolly, special impeachment papers laying right there….
Limerick on November 10, 2006 at 8:15 PM
NBC on line polls are now and always have been biased garbage. Furthermore, both of their their regular viewers are left wing nut jobs.
rplat on November 10, 2006 at 8:18 PM
Anyone know where this poll was freeped from?
RightWinged on November 10, 2006 at 8:18 PM
I love how people here see me as the enemy. I am not the one who quit on the GOP, but instead made a huge effort to keep them in power.
Jen the Neocon, you are wrong on 2 counts. 1) It IS an ILLEGAL Alien Amnesty Bill, and much, much more as it gives those ILLEGALS the ability to make wages that I’ll never see. You should go look it up, but you will soon read all about that. 2) It was the House Republicans who held their ground, and kept Bush’s Illegal Amnesty Bill from becomming law. The House Republicans earned their seats, but Bush has lost my support.
see-dubya, was impeaching Cigarman also a stupid idea? Heck, our POTUS is currently caving in to the party leading the charge to IMPEACH! Should I do less? :oP
DannoJyd on November 10, 2006 at 8:21 PM
Uh huh, and Tucker Carlson and Joe Scarborough are a couple of Democratic mouthpieces, right?
O’Reilly, Cavuto, Gibson, Hume. All conservative, no liberals.
Matthews and Olbermann are liberal, Carlson and Scarborough are conservative. 2-2 split.
So when you critize them you’re basically just saying you don’t want any voices of opposition and you’d prefer pure propaganda Fox-style.
But Fox is balanced, right?
Grebrook on November 10, 2006 at 8:23 PM
Come now, don’t ignore what was stated in the “learn more” link:
“One week in the middle of the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal, more than 200,000 people took part in an MSNBC Live Vote that asked whether President Clinton should leave office. Seventy-three percent said yes. That same week, an NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll found that only 34 percent of about 2,000 people who were surveyed thought so.”
In that context you can’t give this survey much credence, and at least they admit as much.
I’m thinking the real figure is more like 75% in favor of impeachment. It’s a waste of time, though, unless you do it right: impeach Bush and Cheney so there will be nobody to do any sleazy pardoning after the fact.
Constantine on November 10, 2006 at 8:23 PM
Part of me wishes the Dems would try impeach Bush..it would backfire on them so quick it wouldn’t be funny.
mlong on November 10, 2006 at 8:24 PM
RW, I’d guess it was anti-freeped by DU, Kos, ThinkProgress, etc., etc. wouldn’t you?
Ain’t it the truth, Savage?
Jen the Neocon on November 10, 2006 at 8:24 PM
Constantine, the VRWC’s plan is to out Bush, and put Steele in as VP. Then you can out Cheney if you like. :oP
DannoJyd on November 10, 2006 at 8:26 PM
“350523 responses”… probably 97% of them from three or four ip addresses.
bofh on November 10, 2006 at 8:29 PM
Cigarman lied under oath and fornicated with interns. The former was a high crime. Bush has done neither.
NYT called you yet?
see-dubya on November 10, 2006 at 8:30 PM
Like the sleazy pardoning Clinton did before leaving office? Anyway, can’t we admit a difference in wording from asking “whether President Clinton should leave office” to do “Bush’s actions justify impeachment?” There seems to be a very real difference between the tone of both questions.
thedecider on November 10, 2006 at 8:30 PM
No their a pair of neutered conservatives who have to bash the GOP,Bush and other conservative’s to stay on MSNBC..just watch them and see how “hard” they fight for their side…Joe dose more Hollywood news than anything else and Tucker dancing and kissing the but of every lib that appears on his show.
mlong on November 10, 2006 at 8:30 PM
Smells fishy to me too. The 87% is no doubt WAY off from actual public opinion.
Musilm
Sympathizer
Neocon
Bashing
Crapola
infidel4life on November 10, 2006 at 8:32 PM
see-dubya, what has Bush done to close the borders to keep out terrorists who are entering the US during this time of War?
Impeachable offence!
DannoJyd on November 10, 2006 at 8:32 PM
“No their a pair of neutered conservatives who have to bash the GOP,Bush and other conservative’s to stay on MSNBC..just watch them and see how “hard” they fight for their side…”
Kind of Fox News liberals like Kirsten Powers who bashes liberals constantly, or Pat Caddell a “Democratic” strategist who supported GOP intervention in the Terri Schiavo case and lamented the possibility that Democrats would take back congress. Or better yet, Ed Koch, Lanny Davis and Zell Miller.
It amazes me that you complain that Carlson or Scarborough don’t fight hard enough for Republicans. Everyone knows Carlson is a libertarian, and Scarborough is a moderate. But people like you are one-sided and blind, and actually believe that Alan Colmes is a “liberal”, or better yet, ANYTHING other than a walking-talking straw man argument. He’s basically just a devil’s advocate. Hannity is the one that actually controls the direction of the show. And the overwhelming majority of guests brought on, by a margin of more than 2-1.
At least Scarborough and Tucker Carlson actually have their own shows. As well as Glenn Beck over at CNN and anti-illegal immigrant hornblowing Buchananite Lou Dobbs.
Seen any liberals that openly give their opinion on politics with their own show at Fox recently? Doubt it.
Hell, I had to leave out the Wall Street Journal Editorial Panel and Republican Congressman John Kasich just to even the overall number to 4.
Grebrook on November 10, 2006 at 8:37 PM
I already explained this to you guys earlier (scroll up to my post at 7:57), but here’s my solid proof…. I just wish I could find out what liberal blog freeped today’s particular poll.
Anyway, some of you who’ve followed Ian since the ETL days should remember that MSNBC conducted THE EXACT SAME POLL with VIRTUALLY IDENTICAL RESULTS last December.
While I’m not sure if Ian was aware, the commenters quickly figured out what happened. Sadly I still can’t find the exact post, but in my post on the subject in February, I link to a specific Kos post in which they did what they actually call “smurfing” MSNBC polls.
Again, despite the liberal audience MSNBC pulls, anyone with an ounce of common sense should be aware that this poll is total bullshit. Now that I’ve given you an example of how these little “smurfing” campaigns of the Kos kids work, you can disregard this crap.
RightWinged on November 10, 2006 at 8:38 PM
Danno, seriously, put a sock in it or I’m going to ask AP to do something about it. You made your “point” such as it was.
Read Barbara Olson’s book “High Crimes and Misdemeanors” and then get back to us about why Clinton was impeached and Bush won’t be.
Go over to DU or Kos for company; you’ll have lots to talk about.
They dig Bush impeachment talk.
Jen the Neocon on November 10, 2006 at 8:40 PM
Only Alan Colmes, Mort Kondracke, Juan Williams, Mara Elliason, Shephard Smith, Greta van Sustern and sometimes Bill O’Reilly.
Jen the Neocon on November 10, 2006 at 8:42 PM
Killed them in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and various other places where vehicles have been observed exploding spontaneously. Haven’t you been paying attention or have you been watching too much MSNBC?
TheBigOldDog on November 10, 2006 at 8:44 PM
Jen, do as you wish.
I’ve earned my right to voice my opinion as I worked to keep America safer by spending the last 4 weeks, and previously in 2004 spent about the same amount of time in getting Republicans elected, and making sure that only properly registered voters were allowed to cast their vote. Can you say the same?
My son was in the Army, and returned home after his knee got messed up during a training exercise 4 years ago. That gives me a certain amount of moral authority.
It is most apparent that you do not see the irony of Bush pandering to the party leading the charge for his impeachment. It is my opinion that he needs to learn a lesson.
I am a MIGOP conservative volunteer who supports Impeaching Bush! Like it or not, my view is most relevant. :oP
DannoJyd on November 10, 2006 at 8:46 PM
Uh… hello? Knowingly, willingly, unapologetically authorizing violations of the FISA act?
Constantine on November 10, 2006 at 8:49 PM
DanJyzm, you haven’t earned the right to rant and rave on this blog!
You don’t pay the bandwidth beast and you don’t own it.
Now when you’re company in someone else’s house, it’s the custom in polite society to conduct yourself like a gentleman, not a Phillistine.
I suggest those rules apply here.
Grow up and settle down.
Jen the Neocon on November 10, 2006 at 8:49 PM
Connie, I know you Libs think the NSA wiretapping of AQ is an “impeachable offense,” but you know what? It’s just not.
Jen the Neocon on November 10, 2006 at 8:51 PM
Look out, Danno! She’s going to TELL ON YOU!
Constantine on November 10, 2006 at 8:51 PM
Oh my, you didn’t just play victim infallibility card did you DannoJyd?
While you’re “teaching him a lesson” our enemies are rejoicing and using the opportunity created by the distraction to do us grievous harm. Then well all be victims who can’t be criticized.
TheBigOldDog on November 10, 2006 at 8:51 PM
I managed to mess the links up in my last post. Oh well…
TheBigOldDog, you claim that Bush protected our borders by having “Killed them in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and various other places where vehicles have been observed exploding spontaneously”?!?!
You really need to read these articles.
Like it or not people, I am not a robot. I do what I do for relevant reasons. ;o)
DannoJyd on November 10, 2006 at 8:52 PM
I will not accept the blame for that. I voted the straight Republican ticket. Go find a moderate, or cut-and-run Republican to blame.
DannoJyd on November 10, 2006 at 8:54 PM
Do you hate Mexicans that much that you would put your country at risk by distracting the whole nation in a time of war? Would that make you feel better? Really?
TheBigOldDog on November 10, 2006 at 8:54 PM
Not getting court approval to do the wiretapping is a violation of the law. Period.
You WISH he was only wiretapping AQ:
Gen. Michael Hayden refused to answer question about spying on political enemies at the National Press Club.
At a public appearance, Bush’s pointman in the Office of National Intelligence was asked if the NSA was wiretapping Bush’s political enemies. When Hayden dodged the question, the questioner repeated, “No, I asked, are you targeting us and people who politically oppose the Bush government, the Bush administration? Not a fishing net, but are you targeting specifically political opponents of the Bush administration?”
Hayden looked at the questioner, and after a silence called on a different questioner. (Hayden National Press Club remarks, 1/23/06)
Constantine on November 10, 2006 at 8:56 PM
Constantine, don’t cuddle up to me as a few here [very durn few] did get the point of what impeaching Bush would accomplish, and that would not be good for the liberal extremist party.
Newt in 08!
DannoJyd on November 10, 2006 at 8:58 PM
No good deed goes unpunished!
President Bush works to fight back against the people who attacked us on 9-11 and to prevent future attacks, and now he is the bad guy?
Right!
And I am Ronald McDonald!
William
William2006 on November 10, 2006 at 8:58 PM
How old are you Constantine? The guy refuses to take an antagonistic, idiotic question from a left-wing reporter and you jump to the conclusion that they are wiretapping political enemies? Why are you people on the Left so paranoid? What the heck do you guys talk about on the phone that has got you all so worried?
Anyway, if they were doing it, IT DIDN’T HELP! Hello, McFly? Anybody home?
TheBigOldDog on November 10, 2006 at 9:01 PM
I’m curious, exactly how did you manage to accurately quote me, and then read over the part, “WITH THEIR OWN SHOW”.
Alan Colmes nor Juan Williams have their own show. Williams is just a contributor. Smith isn’t a liberal, he barely discusses politics, he does hard news coverage: fires, floods, crime, hot stories of the day. Greta van Sustern? She’s a liberal? First off, she doesn’t do politics, she does crime, and secondly, she doesn’t give her political opinion on anything, even when she brings on a political guest once every two months. She’s a crime host, and you KNOW IT.
And Mort Kondrache is not a liberal, he’s said that multiple times. He’s a centrist, which is why he spends a lot of time criticizing Democrats. Don’t assume he’s a liberal simply because he sits across from Fred Barnes on the Beltway Boys. That’s the entire reason he is the middle panelist on Brit Hume’s show.
Eliasson – Liberal
Kondracke – Centrist
Barnes – Conservative
O’Reilly is a GOP mouthpiece. That you honestly believe the guy is independent, or better yet a liberal, shows you’re clearly either a far-right-wing fanatic with a skewed sense of politics or you’re just not paying attention. O’Reilly is:
Anti-abortion
Pro-intervention in the Schiavo case
Anti-gay marriage
Pro-flat tax
Pro-Bush on everything other than immigration (like Limbaugh and most Republicans)
Supports privatizing social security
Hence when Michelle Malkin appears on his show they agree on absolutely everything.
Grebrook on November 10, 2006 at 9:01 PM
The looney left is incapable, and/or unwilling, to recognize who the real bad guys are.
infidel4life on November 10, 2006 at 9:03 PM
Y’all should have seen Olberman bragging that his latest ratings were 78% of Bill O’Reilly’s…priceless.
Obsession, anyone?
SouthernGent on November 10, 2006 at 9:03 PM
You 2 trolls have your “tastes better/less filling” impeachment fun!
“Open borders!” “Domestic spying!”–Whatever.
I’m out of here. L8ter. Peace out.
Jen the Neocon on November 10, 2006 at 9:04 PM
Curiously missing there is General Hayden’s frame of mind, although I’m sure your perception was such that it only “confirmed” your already suspicious thoughts about Bush. After reading that I couldn’t help but think I would have done the same thing. Why dignify a stupid question by responding to it?
thedecider on November 10, 2006 at 9:06 PM
Aww, you never want to cuddle anymore!
You’d think law and order Republicans would be interested in prosecuting violations of the law. No? Well, you all lost your credibility for the “let it go” argument when you wasted $150 million impeaching Clinton for lying about a blowjob. If impeachment actually happens, you have no one to blame but yourselves.
Constantine on November 10, 2006 at 9:09 PM
This is what we are left with, an unholy alliance between the radical left and the immigrant hating Right, each out for their pound of flesh at the expense of National security. No wonder AQ and the Iranians were so jubilant and defiant today.
TheBigOldDog on November 10, 2006 at 9:15 PM
NSA Monitoring of Terrorists – LEGAL – Authorized by the AUMF in both 2001 and 2003. These are international calls. NSA can and should be monitoring them. (I can write a better decision than the biased judge in Michigan.)
SWIFT Monitoring of suspected financial transactions – LEGAL – the NYT admitted it was legal. This has stopped terrorism.
Lies leading to war. NONE – The US Senate has investigated and found there were no lies. This doesn’t even include the fact that Senators and Congressmen can request and receive more detailed briefings, they are supposed to provide oversight to our intelligence community. The lazy Senators and Congressmen did not bother.
President Bush has committed no crimes, But go ahead investigate, even go so far as to bring it to a floor vote in the House…It wouldn’t pass, Bush will not be impeached.
The investigations will simply prove Bush pushed the limits of his authority to defend this nation.
Marvin on November 10, 2006 at 9:18 PM
Final word: Clinton was found to have committed perjury and suborned perjury and was impeached by the Senated and convicted of same in the Paula Jones case.
He was disbarred in Arkansas and barred from arguing cases in front of the SCOTUS.
So, it was a lot more than “lying about a bj.”
Jen the Neocon on November 10, 2006 at 9:19 PM
BigOldDog…….both trolls. The ‘rep’ for impeachment is one of those hunkered down in a bunker waiting for the ATF to fly in. Just trolls. Just like MSNBC.
Limerick on November 10, 2006 at 9:19 PM
Its not about the poll. Its about moving the discussion out of the nutroots and into the mainstream. Expect more polls just like this until its actually a legitimate topic of discussion; then it’ll happen. MsNBC is just leading the (mainstream) charge.
lorien1973 on November 10, 2006 at 9:22 PM
I believe the actual problem was lying under oath. If he had been truthful about it, he wouldn’t of been impeached. He did it to himself.
Didn’t even have the common sense to get a BJ from a good looking chick, Monica fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.
E L Frederick on November 10, 2006 at 9:23 PM
Jeez, people, chill. We all take the border and the war on terror very seriously. We can disagree about how to go about taking care of those problems without all these accusations of hatred against Mexicans or accusations that we’ve left the gate wide open for another terror attack.
Danno, I can certainly understand why you’d feel animosity towards President Bush with regards to his weak stance on illegal immigration, but why impeach him on that one issue? What will that get us? President Pelosi if we rush him out of office, or a slap on the hand and a lot of wasted tax dollars if things go down like they did for Clinton. I don’t know about you, but my policy is “Screw moral victories, I want to keep more of my paycheck.”
It’s probably best to stick behind the guy since he’s at least a hawk on terrorism – meaning he will seek these people out and stop them. It could be a lot worse, as a certain party believes its a police job to be taken care of after thousands have died.
We can get someone better in 2008 – President Bush had pandered to Mexicans for a decade before his name was even on the ticket in 2000, and he’s stuck to those guns. We just need to find someone who won’t. Meanwhile, it’s been five years with no successful attacks stateside, and many attempts. I’m pretty sure that President Bush takes things seriously enough that he can keep us safe for another two.
And to others: I can certainly appreciate that the War on Terror is a huge priority, but having a government that is willing to allocate funds to more border security really is something we’re in a capable position of doing, economically speaking. Government isn’t just a war machine, we need bread and guns, and it just happens that having a secure border and sane immigration policy is a little bit of both. I don’t think it’s a great idea to mock people whose number one priority is taking control of immigration instead of fighting the war on terror, because to a lot of them, taking control of immigration is part of the war on terror. It’s not a distraction from the war in Afghanistan and Iraq, it’s prevention against the war in America.
Savage on November 10, 2006 at 9:24 PM
What’s funny about this is that we could do a poll on whether or not MSNBC should have their broadcasting license pulled … and the results would come out about the same.
Would that get picked up by the MSM?
Gregor on November 10, 2006 at 9:26 PM
The lib trolls on here I can understand. Every good thief knows how to twist a knife. But the rep trolls calling for impeachment are just pathetic….they are that kid screaming on the grocery store floor when mommy won’t get them more Trix…….Smack em lady…please just smack em.
Limerick on November 10, 2006 at 9:33 PM
Danno…the libs won’t shoot themselves in the foot on impeachment. Part of why the GOP had such a b*tch of time impeaching Clinton was the press. The press will be leading the charge on Bush going down..so, the Democrats could go as far as giving Bush the William Wallace impeachment and cutting parts of his body out and flinging them around the courtyard and the press would not give a moments bit of grief. Add to that, a fundementally unserious electorate that put a party in power that has no business being in power, and a bunch of worthless RiNO’s trying to outrun each other to the right, and there’s a excellent chance Bush will burn..no pun intended. I have no doubt the Dems will intimidate some of those spineless losers in the GOP to vote for impeachment. But have no doubt, fire Rumsfeld the day after the election, reach out to bring the entire population of mexico onto our welfare system; it doesn’t matter how much he sucks up to them, they WILL go for impeachment..and they’ll probably get it. First President impeached for fighting a war. I think this will be our last one…hence my comment on another thread predicting Hillary subjagating herself to the Islamic Caliphate in a burqa…because I think our country has lost its will and its way. The Dems, with the press aiding and abetting them, will not let themselves lose again. A majority of our electorate has shown they’re too uninformed or stupid to make a serious decision along with a planned addition of illegal aliens to the voting pool will make all of us superfluous to the election process. Add to that, all that is left in the GOP is a bunch unprincipled dipsticks like Goober from SC and McCain; we’ll never hold a branch of government again. We’re doomed. Just wait for the next bombing; I’m sure we’ll all be engrossed in the destruction of the Bush Administration, but I’m sure the press could be bothered to cover the deaths of..oh..I don’t know..10,000 Americans…the terrorists are CROWING over this election. They’re going to groin us with a big wooden stick…and we deserve it because our electorate and the a** clowns we put in office are stupid. There will be all kinds of boo hooing..let’s put up a memorial, hell, make it look like an islamic crescent, blame Bush for it..maybe they’ll get to hang him like Saddam. As I said before..we’re doomed.
austinnelly on November 10, 2006 at 9:35 PM
Savage, our current POTUS is currently the titular leader of the Republican Party. Consider just his words/actions of the past 3 days then tell me that you feel confidant about a GOP win in 08.
I haven’t discussed the ramifications of the upcoming Impeachment attempt, but I do see a lot of good coming from it. Think about it, and ignore the obvious. In the meantime, just look at all of the liberals licking their chops! :o))
DannoJyd on November 10, 2006 at 9:36 PM
I’ve seen their polls before; typical counts are in the low 10,000s; this one is a clear case of ‘box stuffing’;
Mike O on November 10, 2006 at 9:39 PM
For who AQ? The Iranians? Like when Clinton and the entire government was so distracted by Impeachment that 911 wasn’t stopped? Brilliant.
TheBigOldDog on November 10, 2006 at 9:41 PM
Not quite.
O’Reilly is a Populist with as many, if not more liberal values as conservative; his primary idealogy is O’Riellyism.
Cavuto seems to have some conservative values, but more of a Pragmatist in terms of what he likes.
Gibson, Yeah, he seems to be a true Conservative.
Hume; I used to think he was a true Conservative, but the last few months I have been having doubts about that.
LegendHasIt on November 10, 2006 at 9:42 PM
Spending the next two years totally focused on impeachment is a great idea as long as Bush’s and the Dem’s liberal agenda is stopped in its tracks. Gridlock is good.
Valiant on November 10, 2006 at 9:43 PM
Austinnelly, yours was a great post, and please allow me to calm your fears.
America remains largely armed and I have no doubt of how Americans will react when the next attack comes. Europe can not, and therin lays the danger for them.
It is true that Bush will pander to the liberals which will result in us being less safe at home, but the attack will put the liberals on the defensive just as much as it will the terrorists, which is a good thing. It is unfortunate that it takes a disaster to wake up our electorate but at least it is possible to still do so.
America is down, it will fall further [Thanks Bush!], but never count out our great country. We will prevail.
DannoJyd on November 10, 2006 at 9:45 PM
People on Hot Air have been saying the same thing about whether Bush is “really a conservative”. So forgive me for not taking that seriously. Hume is a conservative, he’s stated so many times.
And O’Reilly has more liberal positions than conservative positions? Give me a break. The only liberal position he has is “I believe in global warming”. He didn’t endorse anti-global warming initiatives. He simply acknowledge that he believes in it, which can hardly be called “liberal”, since 65% of the public believes in global warming. On just about everything else, he’s a right-wing Republican, from taxes to abortion to gay marriage to prayer in public schools, teaching creationism in the science classroom, etc…
By the way, he’s publicly endorsed at least half a dozen Republicans in the last couple of years, including Doug Forrester, John Thune, Mel Martinez, Phill Kline, Arnold Schwarzenegger, etc…
Grebrook on November 10, 2006 at 9:50 PM
Whoinhell are the 1.9% who bother to click “don’t know”?!?!?
For that matter, what members of the red-rubber-nose and big-floppy-shoes set bother to go to MSLSD and vote in a poll like it matters anyway?
‘Sides, Nancy promised.
*cough*
Claire on November 10, 2006 at 9:51 PM
65% of the public believes in global warming-Grebrook….
yeah and 100% of the public believed the black death was caused by swamp vapors.
Limerick on November 10, 2006 at 9:55 PM
Bush should be impeached but not for anything related to the war. He should be impeached for his deriliction of the duty of protecting our borders and this country’s sovereignty. But then again, that same reason would wipe out the Senate and most of the House.
Bush obliterated everything we built in the last 26 years. He ruined this party and betrayed conservatives like myself. I am totally disgusted with the man. Let the dems do as they may with him.
voiceofreason on November 10, 2006 at 10:04 PM
Okay folks… Global warming is total bullshit. Danno, I may have missed it, but what are you grounds for Bush’s impeachment?
But more importantly, and actually related to this post… For folks harping on liberal bias in polls and MSNBC’s liberal viewership… that’s all irrelevant in this case, and in the case of all MSNBC.com polls. Read my previous comments and follow provided links… this poll was “freeped” or “smurfed” by some liberal blog. It’s just ridiculous, and they always do it. Nothing to see here.
RightWinged on November 10, 2006 at 10:10 PM
You’re a clown.
RightWinged on November 10, 2006 at 10:11 PM
Well, that, and his assertion that the Minutemen observing the borders are dangerous racist militants…
And his conclusion that the Swift Boat group are all liars….
and a few other things like that.
Yeah, I can SAY that I’m a Polar Bear, growl like a polar bear half the time, but if most of my friends are baby seals, is it likely that I am really a polar bear?
OK, you win; Hume is a conservative…. Just not an absolutely hardcore conservative like me.
LegendHasIt on November 10, 2006 at 10:11 PM
Many of you seem to be missing a very important point. The people who were preventing amnesty were thrown out of office on Tuesday and replaced by people and a party you basically favor open borders.
TheBigOldDog on November 10, 2006 at 10:11 PM
I say we impeach the trolls. Freedom of Suppression!
Limerick on November 10, 2006 at 10:14 PM
Exactly. See also: The Downing Street Idiocy, Valerie Plame (“Rove did it!”), and to a lesser extent–but who knows if that’ll last–the 9/11 hoaxsters.
The nutroots knows the media is their ally, and because we’re not farking loonies, we can’t compete. People watch the news, and their attention is grabbed by the scandal/hysterical stories, not by the adults doing sober analysis.
The very idea of impeaching Bush because of POLITICAL DIFFERENCES is appalling, shameful, un-American. He was elected–TWICE. It’s telling that the people who are shrieking for impeachment, for the most part, are all internet retards who know nothing of which they speak.
To DannoJyd, I’ll echo EL Frederick:
It’s people like DannoJyd we have to thank for the new Dummocrat majority. Happy now, Danno? FOOL.
bamapachyderm on November 10, 2006 at 10:16 PM
Whoinhell are the 1.9% who bother to click “don’t know”?!?!?
This one gets my vote for Most Humorous post of the night!
thedecider on November 10, 2006 at 10:17 PM
RightWinged, I would let it stand that Americans voted in the Impeach Bush liberals but by itself that would be a cop out. I decided that Impeaching Bush was a good idea when he publicly stated that he hopes to work with [Brown nose!] the liberals to push through his %^@! Illegal Alien Amnesty Bill which Mexico also supports. That bill includes provisions which
ignorereduces border security by placing the issue on the back burner, and America can ill afford that during this time of War. Neither can we afford to embrace another destitute group that offers nothing to America. I would change my mind if those Illegals came here to embrace America, but instead we hear how we must adjust to their cultural demands. Yeah right!I also question the timing of the Rumsfeld resignation. No matter how you cut it, it stinks.
Look at the idea of trying to impeach Bush as a whole, and it soon becomes pretty attractive.
DannoJyd on November 10, 2006 at 10:21 PM
bamapachyderm, I worked my arse off to keep Republicans in power. Don’t blame the cut-and-run conservatives, or moderates on me. :oP~~
America voted for the Impeach Bush crowd, Bush is calling for an era of bipartisanship. I get the message. Impeach Bush!
DannoJyd on November 10, 2006 at 10:25 PM
Ok Danno, you win. Since you won’t leave… I will.
E L Frederick on November 10, 2006 at 10:32 PM
here trolly trolly…….come to papa
Limerick on November 10, 2006 at 10:38 PM
Someone’s spoke the magic words, it won’t be long before the “selected-not-elected” zombies show up…
elgeneralisimo on November 10, 2006 at 10:43 PM
O’Reilly never said that, that’s a flat out lie and you know it. He’s openly supported the Minutemen and denounced “liberal smears” about them being racist.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,152838,00.html
Didn’t take long to show you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Grebrook on November 10, 2006 at 10:44 PM
Right Wing care to or are you able to elaborate or do you just get your rocks off calling posters names? Come on mouth let’s hear it.
voiceofreason on November 10, 2006 at 10:45 PM
MSNBC is on cable, they do not have a broadcast license and are not governed by the FCC.
rw on November 10, 2006 at 10:53 PM
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