Video: Matthews begs Dean to cut and run more quickly from Iraq

Honora wrote: “You need to understand that the people have just told all you folks to sit down with a nice tall glass of shut the fuck up. At least have the sense to recognize when you have lost legitimacy, a la Rumsfeld.”

Who the @#$%& are YOU to tell us the WE don’t have legitimacy, woman?

You side won an election. And that election was NOT for Godhood!

georgej on November 9, 2006 at 4:30 PM

For 6 years now, the Democrats have been throwing shit on the Republicans. “Bush was selected, not elected,” was the start.

“Bush is Hitler;” “Bush is a chimp;” “Bush is too stupid to run the country;” “Bush was a deserter;” blah, blah, blah!

“The Republicans are the Corrupt Party.”

“DeLAY! DeLAY!”

“GANNON!”

“PLAMEGATE!”

At ever turn, the party on the outside has been attacking the parth running Congress and the White House. Nonstop, without stopping even for a breath.

For exactly 3 weeks after 9/11/01, the Democrats eased up. But America’s left never did. on 9/18, Noam Chomsky said we had it coming.

And let’s everybody remember that in October 2003, Sen. Jay Rockerfeller authored a memo that laid out the plan on HOW TO SABOTAGE THE WAR IN IRAQ FOR POLITICAL GAIN.

And now today, Honora starts blathering about “legitimacy” (as if she knows what the word means) and how the rest of us shrieking banchees no longer have the right to speak out about the war.

Message to Honora and the rest of the asshole left: YOU NOW OWN THE WAR ON TERROR!

Yep. You complained. You screeched about unacceptable casualties (I don’t know why, they’re lower than Vietnam by a factor of 20). You screeched about all those 650,000 dead Iraqis (as if you gave a damn). And you convinced about 30% of the American population that YOU PEOPLE had the answers.

Well, Democrats.

YOU won the 2006 election. YOU control both Houses of Congress. YOU pass the appropriation bills. YOU will run the investigations looking for reasons to impeach Bush (whom you STILL HATE). And YOU control the purse strings of the United States government.

And YOU will be responsible. FOR EVERYTHING.

NOW you have your chance.

And WE will be spending our time undermining YOU at every opportunity.

Welcome to Target. Not the store — but the bullseye painted on your fat asses!

georgej on November 9, 2006 at 5:16 PM

Tecnho writes: “Actually, it’s more than worth it to stay and fight. And to take the gloves off and fight like we actually intend to win. That is the best, most sane action to take.”

You have it.

We have overwhelming military power. We have enough power to destroy the world — and certainly turn the middle east into radioactive green glass. Yes, we could make the Sunnis and Shiites in Iraq play nice.

This is not the only time Iraq has been the center of such turmoil. It happened to the British right after WWI. The British put down that revolt by wiping out Shiite villages and using overwhelming force. BTW, they even asked for authorization to use leftover WWI mustard gas, but never did use them.

But the Brits succeeded, mostly, by 1925.

Honora, in one of her rants, refered to the tribal nature of Iraq. Yes, Iraq still is a tribal society. And tribal societies have, at their base, what we would call a “medieval mindset.” This mindset knows when to knuckle under to overwhelming force.

Our invasion and subsiquent occupation was designed and operated to run with “kid gloves.” We COULD have destroyed their dams, poisoned their rivers, blown EVERY bridge in Iraq, flattened Baghdad and every other city, and killed MILLIONS of Iraqis — even without the use of nuclear weapons.

But we did not.

We did not want our victory to become the basis for a nationwide rebellion. And we have been successful. There are less than 20K “insurgents” in Iraq, including the Sunni and Shiite militias and the remnants of Al Qaeda, out of a population of 26 million.

Yes, in esoteric terms, the Iraqi people want us to go home. Who wouldn’t? But the average Iraqi does not hate America. They admire us. Most of them DID ACTUALLY cheer our troops. Most of them work with us on a daily basis to hunt down the terrorists.

That is the REASON that so many Iraqis join the police and new Iraq Army, knowning damn well how many of them will get blown up in the process.

The Iraqis are brave. They are not stupid.

WE did not destroy their country. WE rescued them from a barbarous dictator — and they know it.

What is happening now is factions jockeying for control of the country. The Sunnis want it back. The Shiites and the Kurds have no intention of letting them have it.

Techno, we WON the war. Hands down. What we are trying to do is stabalize the country and it may take knocking in the skulls of the “tribals” to achieve that point.

Rumsfeld and Bush did not want to take that approach. That might have been a mistake, though I think that had not the traitors on the left (including the Democratic Party) not given them hope that they could wait us out, Iraq would have been quiet by now.

Yes. The current strife in Iraq is caused by the DEMOCRATS proving the bin Laden was right — America will cut and run if you hold on long enough.

But as you correctly noted, the sane action now is to put enough power into Iraq to put down the rebellion and suppress the militias.

With Pelosi at the helm, it won’t happen as she actually said that if we go home, the terrorists will go home in Iraq. That’s how disconnected from reality the left’s mindset is.

So, once again, the DEMOCRATS will have lost a war — the Global War on Terrorism — for America.

Gatewaypundit puts it in perspective in his posting titled “This time the Democratic Chicago Platform wins”.

georgej on November 9, 2006 at 5:48 PM

Honora wrote: “Golly, sounds like someone is hoping the terrorists win”

Nope. You Democratics wanted to regain the power you had lost in 1994 and you were willing to (and did) commit treason to get it. Now you have the power. Enjoy it while you can.

But as I said, YOU NOW OWN the Global War on Terrorism.

Lock. Stock. And Barrel.

The mistakes YOU make YOU will own. And as your side is STUPID and INCOMPETENT beyond belief (Pelosi proved that yesterday when she was “holding court” with the media), the terrorists WILL come home — OUR home — and then your party will fall. I certainly do not want Americans to die, but your party’s victory makes that inevitable.

Why do I say this?

Yesterday the Iranians and Syrians celebrated with you. Our enemies are dancing in joy with you because YOU won. No doubt, a message from bin Laden will be broadcast via Al Jazeera congratulating you — and gloating that they were right all along.

Your victory made us all less safe, but you’re all too damn stupid to “get it.” And when they strike us again, it will be YOUR shame, not ours, because my side wants to win the war on terror — on their soil, not ours. Your side doesn’t want to win it at all.

Well, you Copperheads wanted the power. Some of your leaders actually committed treason to get it.

You now got it.

And because you got it, many more Americans — civilians here at home — are going to die because of it. Because you’re incompetent.

All I’m doing is stating the facts and bracing for the future.

georgej on November 9, 2006 at 6:04 PM