Call me a rhino but I get sick of abortion litmus tests.
First of all, get the hell out of our party. There are two aspects to the conservative movement: small government and traditional values. Without either of those platforms, conservatives would be nothing. Without the conservative movement, the Republican Party is nothing. I’m getting sick and tired of RINOs trying to kick out the social conservatives in effort to please the left. If you don’t value the lives of all humans, born and unborn, take wytammic’s advice and join the party of death (see Ramesh Ponnuru’s book). There’s no room for you here.

tiekitwist on November 8, 2006 at 10:28 PM

Have you noticed most people dont necessarilly agree with far left social policies? This is why it needs to be enshired in laws, codes, and rules because it is not natural to most people. You can make a philosophical argument social concervatives belong in the democrat party since they have in common they need this big government to enforce thier social views. It is simply a different social view then current Dems that they are trying to impose. Maybe I agree with you on social issues i still disagree it is governemnt’s job to enfore it.

A true concervative gov’t would not be trying to enforce social policies. This election was lost because (R) are not being fiscal concervatives and have failed on security and immigration. Bush pandered to religious concervaties for 6 years and he just lost this election

So, from reading posts here; the new plan seems to be.

1) Kick out anyone not sufficiently “in” the party.

2) Complain about illegal voting.

3) Change… um, we’ll get to change later. Right now we’re thinning out the weeds, and complaining that the other side cheated.

Well, it worked for Democrats back in 94, err 96, err 98, err 00, err 02, err 04… hmm, best of luck for the next decade with that plan I guess.

Hmm, actually you need to complain that someone voted “against their best interests” and call them foolish and such. Oh yeah, Libertarians and claiming gridlock spending will be higher than Republican majority spending… nevermind you’ve got the entire plan in place.

Can you try to work on the high-minded condescending tone when talking to a “non-true believer”? That really worked well for the Democrats.

“If you don’t value the lives of all humans, born and unborn, take wytammic’s advice and join the party of death”

See, not quite condescending enough. Something to work on in the next 10-12 years.

Who wants to be the new Kos pushing losing psychotics who barely fit the narrow untenable extreme criteria for a “supportable” candidate? I nominate wytammic, but tiekitwist seems qualified as well.

gekkobear on November 9, 2006 at 3:25 PM

Bravo!!!!!

1) Kick out anyone not sufficiently “in” the party.

2) Complain about illegal voting.

3) Change… um, we’ll get to change later. Right now we’re thinning out the weeds, and complaining that the other side cheated.

Well, it worked for Democrats back in 94, err 96, err 98, err 00, err 02, err 04… hmm, best of luck for the next decade with that plan I guess.

Hmm, actually you need to complain that someone voted “against their best interests” and call them foolish and such. Oh yeah, Libertarians and claiming gridlock spending will be higher than Republican majority spending… nevermind you’ve got the entire plan in place.

Can you try to work on the high-minded condescending tone when talking to a “non-true believer”? That really worked well for the Democrats.

“If you don’t value the lives of all humans, born and unborn, take wytammic’s advice and join the party of death”

See, not quite condescending enough. Something to work on in the next 10-12 years.

Who wants to be the new Kos pushing losing psychotics who barely fit the narrow untenable extreme criteria for a “supportable” candidate? I nominate wytammic, but tiekitwist seems qualified as well.

Jaibones on November 9, 2006 at 1:01 AM

He comes on right after Hannity. He is vicious and never
holds back. I don’t listen regularly but know his style.
He hates all politicians. . . He claims to be conservative.
Has a knack for ticking off anyone who doesn’t see it his way.
But to say he’s not bright. I have to disagree. “Sorry”
He’s good in respect that he keeps the pressure on conservatives
to stay honest. He’s was just brutal today.

Texyank on November 9, 2006 at 1:33 AM
Savage is an ass. He may be academically smart, but his brightness ends there.

I’ll give him his due – he sticks up for the troops with a lot of vigor. But other than that, he doesn’t have much of anything worth listening to.

thirteen28 on November 9, 2006 at 12:53 PM

Thirteen28,
You said it better than I can.

Thanks

First of all, get the hell out of our party. There are two aspects to the conservative movement: small government and traditional values. Without either of those platforms, conservatives would be nothing. Without the conservative movement, the Republican Party is nothing. I’m getting sick and tired of RINOs trying to kick out the social conservatives in effort to please the left. If you don’t value the lives of all humans, born and unborn, take wytammic’s advice and join the party of death (see Ramesh Ponnuru’s book). There’s no room for you here.

tiekitwist on November 8, 2006 at 10:28 PM

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I just love these ex cathedra type of posts. Giggles.

Read someplace that the R party is or has been a combo of 4 things: Main Street, Wall Street, Easy Street and Highway to Heaven. Seems to me that Bush et al are most interested in the second and third and have effectively turned off a lot the the first and fourth. Dems picked up a lot of moderates/middle class/suburban women (main street) and got about 25% of self described evangelicals, which sounds puny but I guess is a big pick up.

Think the plates are shifting.

M. Savage was brutal on Sec. Rumsfelt tonight.

Sorry, Tex, but when you set the radio station to Savage, you pretty much know what’s coming. He’s a first rate horse’s ass, and I would debate you on the “bright” part.

Jaibones on November 9, 2006 at 1:01 AM

He comes on right after Hannity. He is vicious and never
holds back. I don’t listen regularly but know his style.
He hates all politicians. . . He claims to be conservative.
Has a knack for ticking off anyone who doesn’t see it his way.
But to say he’s not bright. I have to disagree. “Sorry”
He’s good in respect that he keeps the pressure on conservatives
to stay honest. He’s was just brutal today.

Texyank on November 9, 2006 at 1:33 AM

Savage is an ass. He may be academically smart, but his brightness ends there.

Half his calls are by people who just totally suck up to him with stuff like “you’re the only true voice of the conservative movement”, and when he’s not taking those calls he’s either puffing himself up or ragging on other conservative radio talkshow hosts (jealous of their higher ratings, perhaps?).

He’s about as humorous as a compound facture, and he’s almost always angry and negative at everything and everybody. And often times he’s a flaming asshole to even his loyal callers.

I’ll give him his due – he sticks up for the troops with a lot of vigor. But other than that, he doesn’t have much of anything worth listening to.

Our fellow americans can be occasionaly duped into voting for the democrats but I will not lose faith in the things I believe in and abandon them because our country takes a wrong turn.

I hope we as republicans DROP the blame game and self incriminations that are following this election. Our values are far to important to short change them for spur of the moment regrets.

he fight isnt over its just beginning. If we can ask our troops to sacrifice their lives for our freedoms then we must ourselves bite the bullet and fight harder than ever to return the country back to where it belongs.

Our values havent changed. The good in what we beleive havent change. The enemies of America are emboldened by our losses but that should only make us more couragous and more willing to fight harder for what we believe in.

If nuts like Osama can survive and thrive after defeats then surely we American true beleives can also. The dems won by being more motivated this must also be our rallying cry this time.

And unlike Osama or the democrats we should not retreat into a cave in the mountains waiting to sneak back years latter in a guerilla campaign filled with deceitfull propaganda and anti american bashing.

We must fight harder than ever for what truely matters to use and forget the past eklection its over and we must move on to retake this country for its own good.

And also unlike the democrats we dont have to lie and mislead and invent 911 conspiracies to do this.

Mr. McCain, thanks for serving in the arms forces, and the U.S. Senate, but now please leave politics. The Republicans need new leadership, not mavericship.

All of a sudden, everyone’s got an Iraq plan. The Small Wars Journal excerpts a subscription-only article from Inside the Pentagon: A small group of officers assembled by Gen. Peter Pace, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to……

I’m glad that Republicans can debate without resorting to ad hominem attacks. Oh… wait…

Well, not the self-anointed republicans like you and your friends.

Maybe EF should debate the liberals for us. Oh wait, he agrees with them and it sounds like he’s been taking language lessons from potty mouth Sheehan.

First, it’s people like you who guarantee liberals are put in office, and, second, go fk yourself, loser.

First, it’s not your party. Second, go fk yourself, loser

Maybe EF should debate the liberals for us. Oh wait, he agrees with them and it sounds like he’s been taking language lessons from potty mouth Sheehan.

First, it’s not your party. Second, go fk yourself, loser.

I’m glad that Republicans can debate without resorting to ad hominem attacks. Oh… wait…

Allahpundit buried the lede on a story yesterday, but since he linked me I’ll forgive him. Buried in this Hot Air posting about electoral trends is a video of John McCain at a press conference, where he says something I’ve……

It’s the Left that has a litmus test on abortion.

Obviously, not. See responses to my post. I’ve been kicked out of the republican party by some anonymous losers on the internet. lol!

First of all, get the hell out of our party.

First, it’s not your party. Second, go fk yourself, loser.

Skywise on November 9, 2006 at 1:51 AM

And that’s when he’s in a good mood . : )

Four words.

Daily Show. Colbert Report.

They’ve been spoon feeding Democrat fiction and speaking “truthiness” to power. This is how the MTV generation wants its politics.

Afraid? You should be. There is NO political thought there. The only bright side to it is that the Democrats can’t possibly live up to their own fiction and thus the Colbert Report will have to eat its own or be revealed for the poser he is.

Jaibones on November 9, 2006 at 1:01 AM

He comes on right after Hannity. He is vicious and never
holds back. I don’t listen regularly but know his style.
He hates all politicians. . . He claims to be conservative.
Has a knack for ticking off anyone who doesn’t see it his way.
But to say he’s not bright. I have to disagree. “Sorry”
He’s good in respect that he keeps the pressure on conservatives
to stay honest. He’s was just brutal today.

Well, i was hoping Republicans wouldn’t go through the predictable “everything’s gone and we’re doomed” phase, but it looks like they are. You can talk all you want, but this election was about Iraq. Dems and the media have spent the past two years hammering away on it and it worked. The 18-25 crowd voted Dem because all they hear from thier teachers, media, etc., is that Bush is a war criminal. Republicans have been lazy and stagnant the past two years and Dems and the media filled the void. Instead of complaining and tearing themselves apart, Republicans should get up off their ass and take the high ground back.

Scot on November 8, 2006 at 9:23 PM

And a consolation prize for last place, too:

M. Savage was brutal on Sec. Rumsfelt tonight.

Sorry, Tex, but when you set the radio station to Savage, you pretty much know what’s coming. He’s a first rate horse’s ass, and I would debate you on the “bright” part.