Riehl World View

Not necessarily in that order. Isn’t it always sort of like election fraud when a Liberal votes? Kind of like giving an IQ test to an imbecile. You know they’re going to fail to get much right, so why bother at all?

If the R’s wer…

What did you just do to Jeff Gannon and Ted Haggard?

I made reference to the fact they engaged in illegal and hypocritical activity: both have been involved with prostitution, and both support a party that would prevent them from enjoying the same rights as heterosexuals.

I’ll respond to your scenarios with one of my own:
The Bush Administration has successfully took advantage of fear generated by a cataclysmic event in order to achieve their objectives, few of which are in the best interest of the American people. It doesn’t take a brilliant man to exploit fear. You go with what sells.

There was certainly election fraud, but not as part of a vast consipiracy; there happened to be two radically partisan Secretaries of State in states that decided the 2000 and 2004 elections who blatantly manipulated the outcomes. Did Karl Rove know what was going on? My gut feeling is: probably. I can’t imagine how anybody would go about proving that. The idea that the entire country leans right– or left– is equally unproveable given the generally tight races we see in each election cycle.

The 2000 and 2004 elections were close because we’re only now seeing the effects of Bush’s shortcomings: a quagmire in Iraq, Katrina, and the start of a downturn in the economy. People need to remember what happened when Reagan tried trickle-down economics; the same cycle is recurring now, in my opinion.

And I shouldn’t have to say this, but… thanks for not calling me foul names.

By the way, what exactly is “gay marriage”?

Techno, I don’t understand what you think the Democrats have done to gays and minorities.

What did you just do to Jeff Gannon and Ted Haggard?

Of course you don’t understand. Your party doesn’t either. They don’t really get the race thing, either.

How many seats will my “rotten and dying” party win today? Sure, we’re not as good as Republicans at winning elections, but the GOP generally sucks at governing.

got news for you… I WISH the opposition to Bush was that organized. They couldn’t prevent the most incompetent president in American history from getting re-elected, even though their supposedly “favored” candidate was 2-0-1 in debating him. You shouldn’t worry so much.

There is quite a bit of opinion in this quote masquerading as fact. Incompetent? That seems more of a personal judgement call than historical fact. Especially at this point in time when we have not seen the end results of his policies. As for who won or lost a debate, that’s hardly an objective thing either. Just look at the Nixon/JFK debates. People listening on the radio felt Nixon won. People watching on TV felt Kennedy won. While there wasn’t the radio/tv disconnect on those debates, it does illustrate that people are entirely likely to declare a winner based on factors other than the merit of the person’s arguments.

Suppose, for a moment, that you are absolutely correct the George W. Bush from 2000-2004 was the most incompetent president in the history of the US. Why then couldn’t the opposition manage to get their guy elected? You pretty much have 3 possibilities.

1) The majority of the American public is stupid – Possible, but, I’m sure you’ll agree that stupid people can just as easily vote democrat as republican. I’d also be willing to bet that you know some people you consider intelligent that vote republican (although you just can’t figure out why). I certainly know an extremely intelligent man that is so staunchly democrat he will spend 30+ hours/week campaigning for Democratic candidates and causes during elections (in addition to working 50+ hours/week at work). So, while there might be a large population of (politically) uneducated people out there voting, they don’t seem to overwhelmingly vote one way or another.

2) Republicans steal the election – So, the evil republicans are smart (and dastardly) enough to steal most (but not all) important elections. Except for that whole President thing from 1992-2000 and that really long dry spell we had in congress. But, other than that, republicans are able to steal any election they want (except, possibly, today’s election). What I don’t understand is that, if Republicans are so smart that they know how to play the system and cheat to win any election they possibly want to win, why are they so dumb that they chose the most ‘incompetent’ president in the history of the US….Guess that’s all part of their plan.

3) People aren’t dumb. The elections aren’t stolen. However, in spite of George W. Bush’s horrible ‘incompetence’ the people again chose to elect him President. Is it because they strongly approve of the job he’s doing or because they strongly disapprove of the job they think a democratic president would do? I guess that’s open for debate. However, what’s apparent is that people aren’t buying whatever it is the democrats are selling.

My money is on option 3. Oh, wait! I just saw another MSM report about a radical conservative candidate that is way out of touch with the average american so it couldn’t possibly be that the majority of Americans lean right.

Guess it really is that we’re all dumb.

Jeff Gannon thinks you might pull this one out (snicker)? Between him and Ted Haggard, the GOP has all but locked up the gay prostitute vote.

Constantine on November 7, 2006 at 1:00 PM

After what libs (like you’re obviously endorsing) have done to gays and minorities during this election, those core dem constituencies should come on over to the GOP where they’ll be respected and encouraged. Your party’s rotten and dying Constantine.

No, that was a joke; too subtle for you, I guess. Look for dates on your own time.

Oh come on, Connie. You can do better than that! Tell us a funny!

Hint: Good funnies usually have a ring of truth. You should try that.

I think a Dem win here would be good. Use the next two years to remind the country why you don’t want them in any position that wields any considerable power.

Nethicus on November 7, 2006 at 12:36 PM

Not me. I want the dems defeated so their party can go ahead and implode and then be reclaimed by saner Democrats who will then be able to easily justify tossing out the far left on their ears.

No, I’m just waiting for that list of people he had sex with for money…which I believe was your point.

No, that was a joke; too subtle for you, I guess. Look for dates on your own time.

…two words for you: Jefferson…freezer….

I see your Jefferson and raise you Delay, Ney, and Cunningham.

Let’s not ignore that Republicans will do anything for a buck as well (and more often). Would you like to go over the list of prominent GOP legislators and supporters who have been involved in financial scandals?

We apparently have very different ideas about what constitutes “anything”.

Is your point that Guckert was never a gay escort?

No, I’m just waiting for that list of people he had sex with for money…which I believe was your point. You brought up the gay prostitute block, didn’t you? Why don’t you want to work that thought out, bunky?

What’s with the anger? Why so glum?

I’m LMAO. You must be projecting.

The MSM’s tactics in the past elections:

I got news for you… I WISH the opposition to Bush was that organized. They couldn’t prevent the most incompetent president in American history from getting re-elected, even though their supposedly “favored” candidate was 2-0-1 in debating him. You shouldn’t worry so much.

Would you like to go over the list of prominent GOP legislators and supporters who have been involved in financial scandals?

…two words for you: Jefferson…freezer….

Let’s not ignore that Republicans will do anything for a buck

Ok, let’s call a spade a spade.

All politicians are willing do anything for a buck. So if you want real prostitutes, you only have to look as far as the polls.

Unfortunately, for us, we end up getting f%#ked and paying for it. We must like it, every second year we come back for more.

COMPLETE, TOTAL WIPEOUT!

(Which is what Kos says. And he knows everything.)

Ah, so your being full of crap is the GOP’s fault? Well, it was nice having you stop by, Mr. Kerry.

Let’s not ignore that Republicans will do anything for a buck as well (and more often). Would you like to go over the list of prominent GOP legislators and supporters who have been involved in financial scandals?
Is your point that Guckert was never a gay escort?

What’s with the anger? Why so glum?

2000 early call of Florida, depressing vote in the still open and heavily republican precincts of the Florida panhandle.

2004 early exit poll results forecast a Kerry landslide, another attempt to depress the republican vote. Exit polls were later proven to be bogus and unreliable.

2006 months and months of stories on how the dems will take both houses. right before the election, the MSM realizes this turnout suppression tactic wont work, so on the day before the election we see a spate of “GOP will keep both houses” stories . . . . they are just once again trying to find a way to keep the GOP voter at home.

VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If Haggard’s lover will screw a Republican, why wouldn’t he vote for one?

Because Dems will do

anything

for a buck. No one will pay you to vote GOP.

Hang on, the Secret Service is at the door–

Ah, so your being full of crap is the GOP’s fault? Well, it was nice having you stop by, Mr. Kerry.

There are way to many cries of voter suppression coming from the Dems already. I take this as a good sign. The Dems can feel the loss coming and are whining early and of

ten.

I agree also. There was just a story in Yahoo posted about the extremely high voter turnout in Virginia, which I take as a good sign. In the middle of the story, they just had to mention “voter suppression.” I believe they are getting nervous. Even with the busloads of illegals Dems are bringing to voting stations in Arlington and Alexandria, a high turnout in the rest of Virginia will be good news for Allen.

Constantine, the guy who was having sex with Haggard for money is a liberal, isn’t he? Who did Gannon have sex with for money?

If Haggard’s lover will screw a Republican, why wouldn’t he vote for one? Gannon (James Dale Guckert) has advertised himself as a gay escort named Bulldog, and I just happen to have his client list right here:

Hang on, the Secret Service is at the door–

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Now how on Earth can that be? Sure, the voting sample are different, but c’mon!