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New York City brilliantly outflanks state ban on gay marriage

posted at 10:57 pm on November 6, 2006 by Allahpundit
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All this time same-sex couples have been trying to make the law conform to their gender.

Now they can make their gender conform to the law:

Separating anatomy from what it means to be a man or a woman, New York City is moving forward with a plan to let people alter the sex on their birth certificate even if they have not had sex-change surgery.

Under the rule being considered by the city’s Board of Health, which is likely to be adopted soon, people born in the city would be able to change the documented sex on their birth certificates by providing affidavits from a doctor and a mental health professional laying out why their patients should be considered members of the opposite sex, and asserting that their proposed change would be permanent…

The change would lead to many intriguing questions: For example, would a man who becomes a woman be able to marry another man? (Probably.) Would an adoption agency be able to uncover the original sex of a proposed parent? (Not without a court order.) Would a woman who becomes a man be able to fight in combat, or play in the National Football League? (These areas have yet to be explored.)…

Joann Prinzivalli, 52, a lawyer for the New York Transgender Rights Organization, a man who has lived as a woman since 2000, without surgery, said the changes amount to progress, a move away from American culture’s misguided fixation on genitals as the basis for one’s gender identity.

“It’s based on an arbitrary distinction that says there are two and only two sexes,” she said.

The next time I run for Senate, I’m totally running as a woman.


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15 minutes and no one has anything to say about that?

RightWinged on November 6, 2006 at 11:11 PM

Allahpundit as a woman is more frightening then gay marriage

Defector01 on November 6, 2006 at 11:15 PM

Has Ace been misguidedly fixated on your genitals, Allah?

DaveS on November 6, 2006 at 11:19 PM

Just trying to figure out how to Vote for VA question 1 based on this. I thought the answer was easy now I am not so sure.

F15Mech on November 6, 2006 at 11:19 PM

Yes, every woman wants to walk into a restroom and find herself alone with some 6′5″ guy who insists he is a woman.

EF on November 6, 2006 at 11:22 PM

A Vote For Change!
Ms. Allahpundit for Senate!

Troy Rasmussen on November 6, 2006 at 11:23 PM

Those of us in “flyover country’ can’t tell the difference anyway from the pictures we see from either coast! Boys who dress like girls who dress like boys who look like Cher! By the bye, does Allah shave…you know…

serenity on November 6, 2006 at 11:26 PM

Joann Prinzivalli, 52, a lawyer for the New York Transgender Rights Organization, a man who has lived as a woman since 2000, without surgery, said the changes amount to progress, a move away from American culture’s misguided fixation on genitals as the basis for one’s gender identity.

“It’s based on an arbitrary distinction that says there are two and only two sexes,” she said.

Arbitrary? I wonder what our Creator would have to say about that…

Pardon the pun, but that freak can go fuck himself.

(and he probably can)

infidel4life on November 6, 2006 at 11:30 PM

What other characteristics can people change at will? Race? Ethnicity? Species? How is affirmative action affected? If I decide to become a sea sponge, do I have to pay income taxes?

Coyote D. on November 6, 2006 at 11:31 PM

…”misguided fixation on genitals”!!!!!!!

Let’s forget for a minute that gender is sort of…er…fixated entirely on genitalia…you got one, as my Dad said, and you spend your life wantin’ the other…one can spend ones life pining for someone else’s gender? “I didn’t get the willie I wanted, Santie Claus…could you drop down my chim-bly and give me a replacement?”….

…that ought to make the “Jolly Old Elf” squirm….

…can I remain the same gender and instead pine for someone else’s money?

If you can’t manage to be content with one of the most basic concepts of biology, how can you say with a straight face that you’ve got the more complex aspects of life in one bag?!

…designer facial features…designer breasts…manipulating DNA to have designer children…and a designer set of wedding tackle…wake me when they figure out a way to give you *both* sets simultaneously…I’d never leave home….

Has Ace been misguidedly fixated on your genitals, Allah? — DaveS

…oh…that’s just *ICKY*….

Puritan1648 on November 6, 2006 at 11:34 PM

I’m not sure what type of marriage Allah the Pundit supports, but Allah the Deity, we know, supports marriage to 9 year olds. This is Islam. A religion who’s equivalent “Jesus” for lack of a better comparison, married, slept with, and did other disgusting activities with a small child.

(to clarify fellow Christians, I don’t mean that Muhammed is the equivalent of Jesus, I just mean that that is the level that Islam puts him on)

RightWinged on November 6, 2006 at 11:38 PM

Why stop at gender? Race is arbitrary right? From now on I’m going to be an African-American female so I can qualify as a minority. Also, I don’t really have blue eyes; I have brown eyes. And I wasn’t born in Tampa, FL, I was born in CA to a lady named Lisa something’r'other. It’s all arbitrary.

jasnell on November 6, 2006 at 11:40 PM

Woo! Just try keeping me out of the ladies’ room now.

Jim Treacher on November 6, 2006 at 11:40 PM

Jim, did you see in the article that they’re already worried about guys doing that?

Allahpundit on November 6, 2006 at 11:42 PM

I’m so confused. So genitalia are no longer a determining factor on what sex a person is? And people are actually born gay? The line is blurred beyond comprehension. I’ll stick to the facts I know.

thedecider on November 6, 2006 at 11:43 PM

Wow - This will make dating in NY very risky - I mean - if we can’t check someones drivers license to determine sex…. makes a case for remaining abstinent until age 60. I hope they never adopt this policy in New Orleans!!!! On second thought - now I can apply for a job a Hooters.
We will need to get a Pelosi statement on this one.

iam7545 on November 6, 2006 at 11:52 PM

Why stop at gender? Race is arbitrary right? From now on I’m going to be an African-American female so I can qualify as a minority.

…oooo…ooo…OOOOOO!!! Can I be an Eskimo!?! I wanna be an Eskimo!

…or a wood elf…what party does the wood elf voting bloc support?

Puritan1648 on November 6, 2006 at 11:52 PM

What the ****????

JinxMcHue on November 6, 2006 at 11:56 PM

I have always thought (not really) that I was a lesbian trapped in a man’s body.

That said. I can’t wait to claim my F status and head to the nearest female locker room in NYC.

I can’t help myself I was born that way.

F15Mech on November 6, 2006 at 11:58 PM

…misguided fixation on genitals…

Tired of all that “misguided fixation” on your genitals?

Well, you lucky people! I’ve started and am recruiting for a *THIRD* gender.

I call it “husband”.

No pesky and intrusive genitalia questions…or fixations of any kind. No muss, no fuss, no surgery required.

Wife has the male genitalia under lock and key or in a jar somewhere?

Haven’t seen female genitalia since that anniversary when you got her a set of socket wrenches?

Join me. Be a “husband”.

Don’t worry about genitalia. Don’t worry about discrimination. Nobody notices us, anyway.

Puritan1648 on November 6, 2006 at 11:59 PM

Gender confusion is a a psychiatric illness. I had a client who tried to barge his way into the women’s dressing room at SFSU screaming, “I’m a woman! I’m a woman.” Some big dyke clocked him good, and he gets charged with trespassing.

In my law school, a student who was pre-op wanted to use the woman’s room and it caused an uproar. They then gave him permission to use the handicapped restroom. I can see his problem — you can’t walk into a men’s john in a skirt. The flip side, is you can’t have people with a foot or more height and 50-100 lbs more and a hell of a lot of testasterone going into the woman’s restroom. Anyway, you would of liked the preop guy — NRA and John Birch Society member. lol!

EF on November 7, 2006 at 12:06 AM

If I decide to become a sea sponge, do I have to pay income taxes?

Coyote D. on November 6, 2006 at 11:31 PM

I don’t think it’s been definitively determined whether Bikini Bottom has a tax structure….

ScottG on November 7, 2006 at 12:07 AM

I don’t think it’s been definitively determined whether Bikini Bottom has a tax structure….

…it’s fictional and at the bottom of the sea…yup…the Dems’ll tax it.

…Pelosi’s gotta pay for those drapes….

Puritan1648 on November 7, 2006 at 12:09 AM

As a gay man, I’m STILL not clear what this obsession with marriage is all about with gays? Hetero’s…is it really all it’s cracked up to be?

SouthernGent on November 7, 2006 at 12:16 AM

I’m going to change my birth certificate to say I’m a black female. Can’t wait to get all the free government loot.

p0s3r on November 7, 2006 at 12:21 AM

Hetero’s…is it really all it’s cracked up to be?

SouthernGent on November 7, 2006 at 12:16 AM

To borrow a phrase I’ve heard, it can be the closest thing to Heaven on earth, and it can be the closest thing to Hell on earth.

infidel4life on November 7, 2006 at 12:25 AM

I must be misguided, because all this talk of Bikini Bottom kinda got me anxious.

Dan866 on November 7, 2006 at 12:25 AM

“Jim, did you see in the article that they’re already worried about guys doing that?”

Well, it only seems fair. We’re all humans, right?

Jim Treacher on November 7, 2006 at 12:26 AM

it can be the closest thing to Heaven on earth, and it can be the closest thing to Hell on earth.

And I’ve experienced both.

infidel4life on November 7, 2006 at 12:26 AM

Why not just paint the restroom doors with tasteful images of genitalia? No oppresive, values-laden terms like ‘men’ or ‘women,’ just nature’s own. That ways there’s no need to check legal paperwork at the door or hurt one’s inner sense of being a lesbian sumo wrestler trapped in the body of an unhappily married subway token salesman.

pedestrian on November 7, 2006 at 12:31 AM

What the hell is going on with these people? A female is a male, a dog a cat. The PETA crowd will say a lobster is a dolphin, geese will become an endagered bird. A vote for a Republican will be changed to a vote for a Democrat.

Simple test; if it has a pee pee it’s a male. Anything else the woman can have.

right2bright on November 7, 2006 at 12:35 AM

“It’s based on an arbitrary distinction that says there are two and only two sexes,” she said.

Are we to surmise that XY Joann Prinzivalli would be fine with dating an XX female who decided she was male? Either way, I’m confused.

The premise that gender is arbitrary actually explains a lot, and it’s probably good that it is coming to the surface.

Looks like they’re well on their way to brilliantly outflanking profiling, too, as jasnell suggests. Q: So was the perp male or female? A: What are you sexist?

Kevin on November 7, 2006 at 12:35 AM

The next time I run for Senate, I’m totally running as a woman.

Post a pic!

Hoodlumman on November 7, 2006 at 12:35 AM

In all seriousness, how can I avoid thinking of this sort of legislation whenever gay issues come up?

If gay rights/legislation seems to lead to NYC’s craziness, how can I not help but be uter opposed to advancing gay rights?

I’ve heard people say that the gay rights issues/marriage issue is the same as civil rights for black people.

I don’t believe that at all now. Civil rights for black people/ interracial marriage never led to craziness like this. This strengthens the family? This is civil rights?

Forget it. This issue is dead to me. When crazyness like this comes forth, as far as I’m concerned, it is time for a US constitutional amendment forbidding samesex marriage.

EFG on November 7, 2006 at 12:36 AM

John Kerry voted as a woman before he voted as a man.

right2bright on November 7, 2006 at 12:39 AM

Maternity leave should be interesting.

dougless on November 7, 2006 at 12:43 AM

Politically, everything about gender, sex, marriage, and family comes down ultimately to fertility, education of children as citizens, and the survival and thriving of the political unit. In comparison to these matters, enunciation of rights, logical demonstrations, and semantic hairsplitting are nothing.

Kralizec on November 7, 2006 at 12:46 AM

Black is white, up is down, left is right, and nothing–no matter how seemingly obvious to you or me–means anything anymore. All objective standards have been thrown out the window. It’s Bizarro World, which is to say, Liberal World.

ReubenJCogburn on November 7, 2006 at 12:46 AM

John Kerry voted as a was an ugly woman before he voted as a was an ugly man.

right2bright on November 7, 2006 at 12:39 AM

That’s more like it.

infidel4life on November 7, 2006 at 12:52 AM

Hetero’s…is it really all it’s cracked up to be?

Imagine the most delectable dessert you could ever lay your eyes on. With the first bite you take you realize that it tastes just as delicious as it looks… Until you take the next bite and suddenly it’s the most bitter thing you’ve ever tasted.,, Until you take the next bite and it’s fantastic… Until you take the next bite…

jasnell on November 7, 2006 at 12:52 AM

American culture’s misguided fixation on genitals

So all those pagan statues were made in Hoboken? The drawings (to lazy to look up hierglyphics)inside the pyramids. The greeks had a few, and don’t forget about David. I think I know were the fixation is coming from, don’t you joann?

“It’s based on an arbitrary distinction that says there are two and only two sexes,” she said.

Arbitrary? We aren’t a bunch (school) of sheepheads (fish born as a female and become a male). We are humans, have they ever found a primative gay man? A Neanderthal that was not a male or female?
Joanne, hears a hint, the missing link is between your legs.

right2bright on November 7, 2006 at 12:52 AM

infidel4life on November 7, 2006 at 12:52 AM

I stand corrected, thank you.

right2bright on November 7, 2006 at 12:54 AM

or play in the National Football League

What makes you think women are not allowed to play in the NFL? There are no rules barring them… that is if they are good enough. NFL, NBA, Major League Baseball, PGA, none of those are Men’s leagues, they are open leagues, anyone good enough to play just needs to bring their game.

Just to prove the point, did you not witness the Oakland Raiders earlier this evening on Monday Night Football? You can not tell me those were all guys wearing the silver and black.

AndrewsDad on November 7, 2006 at 12:56 AM

Rene Richards played tennis as a woman, born a man. Had a sex change operation to become a woman than wrote a book. “How to play tennis without balls”.

right2bright on November 7, 2006 at 12:59 AM

did you not witness the Oakland Raiders earlier this evening on Monday Night Football? You can not tell me those were all guys wearing the silver and black.

AndrewsDad on November 7, 2006 at 12:56 AM

Hmmmm, that one wide receiver does play like Janet Reno.

infidel4life on November 7, 2006 at 1:00 AM

Allah; you could not make up a funnier story. It almost makes me want the moonbats to take over, just to see what they come up with. How entertaining are they? I thought Kerry was nuts…

right2bright on November 7, 2006 at 1:03 AM

ender confusion is a a psychiatric illness.

Well, then, it needs to be treated by a professional psychiatrist with counselling and (probably) drugs and NOT flaunted as “normal” behavior with the approval of policy-/lawmakers.

JinxMcHue on November 7, 2006 at 1:05 AM

This is probably an appropriate South Park clip.

rw on November 7, 2006 at 1:05 AM

I have always thought (not really) that I was a lesbian trapped in a man’s body.

Hey, I thought I was the only one! *bawl* Group hug! Group hug!

JinxMcHue on November 7, 2006 at 1:06 AM

All this is very amusing, but if sex is arbitrary, then there is good reason to assert that race it too, as has been suggested. But then, so is age, by that reasoning, moreover. So John Mark Carr, et al, could call himself a 13 year old girl and prowl the internet saying he is just looking for companionship. And by this reasoning there is no reason to hold or incarcerate. I know some people hate slippery slope arguments, but it is just a rhetorical device to show the absurdity here.

In the end, all this will do is assure that everything will be based on DNA determined by blood tests.

urbancenturion on November 7, 2006 at 1:18 AM

I’m no longer of Irish-American descent. I’m now Irish-African-American. Just cause I say so. So now I cannot be told “NO” when I try to grab ahold of all the scholarships and grants available to “minorities.”

Go ahead, NY….pass this precedence so THE PEOPLE can start revealing Affirmative Action for what it really is in this day and age.

American_Jihadist on November 7, 2006 at 1:27 AM

…misguided fixation on genitals…

A fixation on genitals is never missguided.

Bill C on November 7, 2006 at 2:13 AM

No slippery slope to see here, move along.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

Thomas Sowell made the argument years ago, that once a long-held moral foundation is given up, the entire structure of society upon which it is founded will crack and crumble.

Don’t be surprised when, after homosexual marriage/transgender rights laws start gaining acceptance, every form of deviant will demand “equal rights”. NAMBLA will be at the front of the line, but so will proponents of polygamy, incest, bestiality, etc. Go right ahead and think I’m off the deep end, but mark the words. And operating directly in parallel with the forced acceptance of perversions, will be the increased public repression of Christianity.

Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil.” - Thomas Mann

SouthernGent, forgive me if I’ve just offended you, it was not my intent. To answer your question above, marriage is everything it’s cracked up to be, and far more. Of course, I’m biased, still being on my honeymoon. (23 years this December)

Freelancer on November 7, 2006 at 2:25 AM

Hey! If we can have gutless and spineless politicians, then why not this!

Shy Guy on November 7, 2006 at 2:25 AM

I, for one, and tired of the misguided fixation on income as the basis for one’s social status in the world. Can I just “adjust” the number of zeros on my bank account to make me feel better about myself?

Neo on November 7, 2006 at 2:44 AM

The leftists want to re-define everything. First, they re-defined “right” and “wrong”. Then they re-defined “truth”. Then marriage”. Now it’s the sexes. We’ve seen an ex-president, W.C. Clinton, play with the definition of “is”.

Are they trying to tear down society by destroying language and communication?

stonemeister on November 7, 2006 at 2:52 AM

Are they trying to tear down society by destroying language and communication?

stonemeister on November 7, 2006 at 2:52 AM

Yes. That is the very purpose of political correctness.

PC language is meant to obscure, not clarify. “African American”, for example, is a meaningless phrase. Teresa Kerry, born in Rhodesia, is an African American while Jesse Jackson is not. See? It’s all so simple arbitrary, like genitals.

Using euphemism rather than real words leads to all sorts of fun stuff, like CNN referring to the dark skinned thugs rioting in Paris last year as “African-American-French Youths”. We’ve gone so far that what comes out of a lot of mouths now is nothing but poppycock.

“Transgendered” is my favorite though: great euphemism for bat-shit crazy.

Hey Puritan, where in the hell is your blog? You’re a natural.

HerrMorgenholz on November 7, 2006 at 4:20 AM

Where is Rudy when you need him.

New York will become one confusing place to live.

What affect will this have on the Yankees?

iNeXuS on November 7, 2006 at 5:19 AM

Huh?

Where is My Country has anybody seen her? er um I mean Him or maybe…

Viper1 on November 7, 2006 at 5:54 AM

Imagine the most delectable dessert you could ever lay your eyes on. With the first bite you take you realize that it tastes just as delicious as it looks… Until you take the next bite and suddenly it’s the most bitter thing you’ve ever tasted.,, Until you take the next bite and it’s fantastic… Until you take the next bite…

That is probably the best description of marriage I’ve ever heard.

ArmedGeek on November 7, 2006 at 6:01 AM

“It’s based on an arbitrary distinction that says there are two and only two sexes,” she said.

Arbitrary distinction? In the Homo-Sapien species there are only two possible outcomes. It may be “random” before the old sperm and egg meet up, but there is nothing arbitrary about what the Doctor, mom and dad see at the moment of birth.

Not sure what ole’ Joann sees when he/she peeks down his/her pants, but if it resembles a hot-dog, you’re a man.

BacaDog on November 7, 2006 at 7:31 AM

So let me get this straight……Instead of the local governments saying it’s ok for them to try to trump state law, their now telling individuals it’s ok to purjure themselves on official documents…….

Well, I guess if the illegal aliens can do it the gays can to…../sarcasim off

P. James Moriarty on November 7, 2006 at 7:42 AM

LOL, BacaDog!

Are they trying to tear down society by destroying language and communication?

Uh, yes. As well as the family and a moral society.
If I went into a ladies’ room and saw a man using the bathroom, I’d run like hell!
Likewise, I ain’t going into the men’s room, either!
This has Supreme Court review written all over it.
Is Nanny Bloomberg totally insane or just partially insane?
He must play with Cabbage Patch dolls–I don’t think they have any genitals.

Jen the Neocon on November 7, 2006 at 7:45 AM

So let’s redefine everything! Drive them all nuts! Let’s redefine “left” and “right” — now let them drive on the freeway!

Let’s redefine all the numerals! We’ll make it so no words have an absolute definition. Canary swim nipple lumberjack!

stonemeister on November 7, 2006 at 8:11 AM

OOOH I want to be an American eagle so I can be a protected species, not pay taxes and if anyone harms a hair…er feather on my head, they get punished big time. I wouldn’t have to worry about lenient judges letting someone who mugged me off with just a warning. No sirree, they’d get the full weight of the federal government behind them for messing with an eagle. Yes sir. Just as soon as I can, I will apply to change my species.

Ellen on November 7, 2006 at 8:16 AM

Don’t look back or you will certainly turn to a pillar of salt.

Do you hear that? Its the death rattle of American civilization….

seejanemom on November 7, 2006 at 8:20 AM

The best (worst) ideas from the blog:

I can say that I am younger so I can prowl the internet for 13 year old babes.
Transgendered” is my favorite though: great euphemism for bat-shit crazy
I’m no longer of Irish-American descent. I’m now Irish-African-American.
What the ****????
A Vote For Change!
Pardon the pun, but that freak can go f**k himself.
Simple test; if it has a pee pee it’s a male
John Kerry was an ugly woman before he was an ugly man.
A fixation on genitals is never missguided.
Where is My Country has anybody seen her? er um I mean Him or maybe…
Instead of the local governments saying it’s ok for them to try to trump state law, their now telling individuals it’s ok to purjure themselves on official documents…….

We have some of the funniest oneliners on the net. And often more truth in humor.

right2bright on November 7, 2006 at 8:35 AM

I’m in favor of gay marriage, but it’s just not okay to lie!

That’s all there is to it. You cannot change facts. Surgery as an adult doesn’t change who you were when you were born. (Hmm, what would Michael Jackson change his birth certificate to say?)

It frightens me to see people actually trying to change the law to mean nothing. I don’t believe they’ll get away with it.

MamaAJ on November 7, 2006 at 8:40 AM

I gonna pretend I’m a woman, just so I can nail a lesbian.

JackM on November 7, 2006 at 8:43 AM

(From Life of Brian)
STAN: I want to be a woman. From now on, I want you all to call me ‘Loretta’.

REG: What?!

LORETTA: It’s my right as a man.

JUDITH: Well, why do you want to be Loretta, Stan?

LORETTA: I want to have babies.

REG: You want to have babies?!

LORETTA: It’s every man’s right to have babies if he wants them.

REG: But… you can’t have babies.

LORETTA: Don’t you oppress me.

REG: I’m not oppressing you, Stan. You haven’t got a womb! Where’s the foetus going to gestate?! You going to keep it in a box?!

LORETTA: [crying]

JUDITH: Here! I– I’ve got an idea. Suppose you agree that he can’t actually have babies, not having a womb, which is nobody’s fault, not even the Romans’, but that he can have the right to have babies.

FRANCIS: Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother. Sister. Sorry.

REG: What’s the point?

FRANCIS: What?

REG: What’s the point of fighting for his right to have babies when he can’t have babies?!

FRANCIS: It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression.

REG: Symbolic of his struggle against reality.

plaidsheetman on November 7, 2006 at 9:10 AM

As a gay man, I’m STILL not clear what this obsession with marriage is all about with gays? Hetero’s…is it really all it’s cracked up to be?

…I’ve been married for 22 years…four kids…how the hell would I know?

I was hetero once…now…I wait by the cart as my wife weighs the merits of brands of macaroni. *sigh*

Puritan1648 on November 7, 2006 at 9:11 AM

If misguided fixation on arbitrary genitals were the issue this person claims it is, there would be no such thing as gay.

Sasnak on November 7, 2006 at 9:12 AM

…where in the hell is your blog? You’re a natural.

I ran a mailing list for quite a while, back in the day…sort of a primordial blog, when dinosaurs sat around with insomnia, snarking about the foibles of other dinosaurs….

“…and did you catch Rex’s breath! Hoo-eee…if you can’t floss with those short arms, get the wife to do it!” “He thinks it’s macho…it’s just soooo Mesozoic!”

…you have to put it there, find content to b*tch about, promote the site…*THEN* you need to ride herd on some of the broken toys who show up to throw bombs.

This blog here is *SO* very well run that even the bomb-throwers behave themselves…the discussions are fairly mature (not this topic, but it’s the election season, and fixating on genitalia is a stress reducer)…it’s an easy site to navigate…and the crowd which shows up is pretty informed.

…and, you have to ask yourself: do we really *NEED* another wise-acre blog site? What we need is more reasoned conservative activism, and less of either the smart-alecky kind, or of the “he-hasn’t-checked-all-the-boxes-on-my-ideological-checklist-so-he-must-be-the-enemy!” variety.

…but, thank you. It was very kind to suggest it.

Puritan1648 on November 7, 2006 at 9:23 AM

I was hetero once…now…I wait by the cart as my wife weighs the merits of brands of macaroni. *sigh*

I feel your pain brother!

AP, you don’t want to switch teams; you’d never be able to get KP then!

dalewalt on November 7, 2006 at 9:25 AM

Canary swim nipple lumberjack!

stonemeister on November 7, 2006 at 8:11 AM

Hey, don’t talk about my sister like that!

dalewalt on November 7, 2006 at 9:28 AM

…is sexual identity is arbitrary?

…I seem to remember — back in mists of time, back when I was dating — That I was myself *VERY* fixated on genitals, the way a dog is *VERY* fixated on bacon. My genitals, here genitals, however many other genitals we could wrangle into the backseat of the car…so long as they were correctly aligned and all the cards were on the dashboard, so to speak.

I think that I would’ve been *VERY* fixated on genitals had I reached the “moment of truth”…after an hour of tonsil-hockey, my attention would’ve been immediately fixated were I to reach into “her” knickers only to find that “she” was just as ready to go as I was…and *in the same fashion*, so to speak…as to say with the same general equipment in play, as it were….

“Hmmm…let’s do an inventory, my dear…one penis…two penises… EGADS! We’ve got one too many penises here!”

…then the *REAL* fixation on my erstwhile love-muffin would begin…followed by a fixation on the jaw, spine and solar plexus…after which he/she would truly be in a fix!

What shall we “redefine” next? Age of consent? That’s in the works. Consent itself? Will rape be redefined and deflated to mere “presumption of consent” if they, say, didn’t say “no” in enough languages?

We as a species need to recognize that there’re just some things over which we have no control. Being born is one thing. Being born with specific original equipment is another. If you’re in “sticker shock” over the options you find yourself equipped with, drive off the showroom floor and see a mechanic…*YOU* are the one with the problem…not every other car on the road.

Puritan1648 on November 7, 2006 at 9:36 AM

Forget a woman playing in the NFL. This would mean that some freak can change his sex on the birth certificate, then play golf from the womens’ tees. Now THAT is an outrage!

OSUDan on November 7, 2006 at 9:50 AM

Hmmm. “Allahpundette” Sort of has a nice ring to it,
ya’ think?

CyberCipher on November 7, 2006 at 10:07 AM

LORETTA: It’s every man’s right to have babies if he wants them.
plaidsheetman on November 7, 2006 at 9:10 AM

I think the punchline is: Loretta, if you want to have babies who would be the father?
Loretta: I don’t know, I don’t have eyes in the back of my head.

right2bright on November 7, 2006 at 10:12 AM

I think the punchline is: Loretta, if you want to have babies who would be the father?
Loretta: I don’t know, I don’t have eyes in the back of my head.

OR

I don’t know, but he was a real pain in the a**!

stonemeister on November 7, 2006 at 10:25 AM

I think the punchline is: Loretta, if you want to have babies who would be the father?

Loretta: I don’t know, I don’t have eyes in the back of my head.

Or:

You’re oppressing me again.

JackM on November 7, 2006 at 10:32 AM

As a gay man, I’m STILL not clear what this obsession with marriage is all about with gays? Hetero’s…is it really all it’s cracked up to be?

SouthernGent on November 7, 2006 at 12:16 AM

As others have said, yeah, it’s a roller coaster, good and bad all in one.

Personally, I’m not real big on the government being involved in marriage anyway. For me, it wasn’t about the piece of paper, or changing my last name (which is annoyingly strange), or any benefits of which I’ve yet to see from the government or anyone else, but it was about going in a church in front of my family and friends and making a vow to stay by this person my entire life.

I wouldn’t be against legal partnerships that allow for all the benefits marriage is supposed to provide.

I just don’t like marriage being changed. The last time it was changed, divorce was introduced.

As far as I’m concerned, the government could allow for the legal document of partnerships (which can be romantic relationships or not), and religious institutions can be in charge of marriages.

But that’s just me.

Esthier on November 7, 2006 at 10:38 AM

Forget a woman playing in the NFL. This would mean that some freak can change his sex on the birth certificate, then play golf from the womens’ tees. Now THAT is an outrage!

OSUDan on November 7, 2006 at 9:50 AM

That’s my concern. Let’s face it, men are better than women at sports. They’re even better at chess.

If men are able to pose as women, then we may as well do away with seperate competitions.

Esthier on November 7, 2006 at 10:39 AM

How about my race? Can I change my race too?

I think if I can change from a white heterosexual male to a black lesbian female then the sky’s the limit! I could rule the world!

irishsquid on November 7, 2006 at 11:21 AM

Let’s repeal the law of gravity next!

stonemeister on November 7, 2006 at 11:25 AM

It’s insanity. Or is it? I want to be a dolphin! Then I can leave H/Ts on my blog to Hot Air like that each time!

Nethicus on November 7, 2006 at 11:34 AM

About 15 years ago, I was stuck in traffic in LA, listening to a call-in radio show. The topic was “Daylight Standard Time - should it be repealed by the state legislators?” After just a couple of calls, the callers were suggesting the daylight hours be extended, to 14 hours/day, then 16. Some were suggesting 24 hours of daylight, 24 hours of night. These morons were SERIOUS!

So now you know what kind of people vote democrat!

stonemeister on November 7, 2006 at 11:55 AM

So, can I just call myself a handi-capable African-American woman without having any surgery or changes made?

That would significantly benefit my job prospects…

gekkobear on November 7, 2006 at 12:06 PM

Hell, gekko, just start signing your checks ‘Bill Gates’ and you won’t need any job prospects.

kate q on November 7, 2006 at 3:06 PM

Oooh. Even better. This marks the end of Affirmative Action and the ADA. Can’t walk? Just find a doctor to certify that you should be considered able to. Problem solved.
No more Welfare either. And no need for Social Security; we can all simply declare ourselves to be young, fit, and independently wealthy.

Taxes are going way down now, right?
I bet the Dems thought this was THEIR issue. Heh.

kate q on November 7, 2006 at 3:28 PM


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