As I write, Conrad Burns is still struggling in Montana but I’m not hopeful. It looks like the big winner is the Democratic strategy of outing and smearing politicians who are gay, or politicians who might be gay, or politicians……

“Love the sinner and hate the sin” seems to only pertain to conservatives because liberals seem to love and embrace sin.

However, just because one minister in Colorado was caught in hypocrisy and sin most certainly does not mean that ALL Christian ministers are hypocrites and degenerates, which is what the actual Moonbat Media is implying

Jen the Neocon, I have implied no such thing. I have no doubt that many (if not most) of the ministers actually live what they preach.

BTW, what are you going to do when the Republicans retain control of both Houses?

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Nobody’s perfect, and everyone makes ‘mistakes’. However Haggard’s main error was not the ’sin’ he committed, but the hypocrisy of him preaching/campaigning against things he was actually doing.

MoonbatMedia on November 5, 2006 at 1:51 PM

Moonbat, it depends on your perspective: Haggard really committed several sins, 2 of which you talked about, but it isn’t wrong for him to preach against immoral things, it’s just wrong to do those things and lie about it to himself and his congregation also.
The man is not only a sinner but a conflicted one.
Along with the forgiveness of sin, Christ told us to “go and sin no more.”
Haggard has been removed from the pulpit for this reason, so that as a minister of the Gospel, he can deal with his own shortcomings in private.
However, just because one minister in Colorado was caught in hypocrisy and sin most certainly does not mean that ALL Christian ministers are hypocrites and degenerates, which is what the actual Moonbat Media is implying.

“Love the sinner, hate the sin” seems to be the rallying cry, but it only seems to apply to conservatives.

Really? You mean liberals don’t rally around their own?

Reverend who, you ask? Doesn’t matter. He’s the guy that sleeps with a male prostitute and does meth. YAY!!!

Despicable behavior is cause for rejoicing?

The evangelicals are gonna stay home. YAY!!!

Do you really believe that? Don’t hold your breath for that one, shackler or you won’t be with us much longer.

Your “love the sin, hate the sinner” line is exactly what I have been thinking about the left since 1992. They have an inverted theology, because they worship the creature, rather than the Creator.

I have attended independent churches for the last 26 years, and I’ve never heard of the National Association of Evangelicals as being of any consequence. That’s partially because the media couldn’t care less what a bunch of mouth-breathing bible thumpers thinks or believes.

If Ted Haggard had tried, a year ago, to get a moment in the news cycle to represent his association, he would have been laughed at as insignificant, without influence. Now he’s ‘hailed’ as the President’s spiritual advisor.

But the left is so good at lying to itself that they will buy into this spin and attempt to paint all evangelicals and all conservatives with this brush. They will also begin linking everyone that speaks against same-sex marriage to Haggard any way that they can in an attempt to weaken the argument.

“God showed His love for us in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”

Plus, the whole concept of personal responsibility is foreign to them. When our brother repents, we forgive, yet still hold him accountable, because not holding our brother responsible is bad for him. The evangelical way of thinking is something they just don’t get because our way of life is based on self-sacrifice and accountability, instead of selfishness and self-aggrandizement.

I’m still not sure why one of the Jews has to be the one to make a statement about this

Gee. And all this time I didn’t even know that we were exchanging messages/posts with Mel Gibson.

This was “hit job” by the Left on the Christian Right to show that we are all hypocrites and that our stand for traditional marriage is based on hypocrisy also.
Colorado has a same-sex marriage amendment on the ballot Tuesday.

The Liberal Left really doesn’t understand what the “religious right” is, so I think they thought Haggard was as big a deal as Falwell and Robertson.
That being said, Haggard illustrates beautifully that we’re all only one sin away from being “perfect” and without moral blemish.
He needs to ask the Lord for forgiveness (and perhaps his congregation) and then change his ways–it was good that he stepped down from the pulpit.
But one man’s failings couldn’t and shouldn’t make all Christians hypocrites or all Christian marriages hypocritical and therefore, not worth cherishing.
We’re all sinners, saved by Grace and I’m sure Rev. Haggard knows this–he looks like a nice man, even if he seems sorta clueless and was easily tempted.

And, a 49 year old male prostitute/escort?

RightWinged-I read something by some liberal blogger (sorry, I forget which) saying that he was President Bush’s spiritual advisor. I have no idea if that is accurate, but I suppose it is possible.

tikvah on November 5, 2006 at 8:06 AM

Haggard has had meetings with the WH and from there, the left ran with it, in their eyes, he was GWB’sspititual advisor…Didn’t Jesse Jackson also have meetings at the WH?

a) I’d never heard of Haggard and therefore didn’t have a record to base any opinion on

Had anyone heard of this guy? The media (read: left) has trotted this guy out, IMO because of the election. They think (maybe rightly) that they can tie him in with Bush/GOP in people’s minds because he’s a Christian and likely a conservative. The problem is, they keep calling him an “evangelical leader”, but I have no idea who his is and don’t think I’ve even heard his name.

Is this guy running for office or did they just pick a Christian off the street to feed to the lions?