There’s damned by faint praise if I ever saw it. Interesting that a careful writer like VDH would add the phrase “many of”…

I’ve only seen the quotes. If the novels are as VDH describes, warnings to Webb’s readers about the perversity in the world, I would have to see the excerpts in context. Which means I’ll have to read the damthing[s].

*sigh*

Off to the end of the Amazon list with ya’s.

Don’t say anything against our side, even when you have a moral objection to something done by our side, because WE HAVE TO WIN! And then back that up with “AREN’T YOU TERRORIZED BY WHAT HAPPENS IF ‘THEY’ WIN?”

Commentators such as MM say what they believe about issues. If they only spoke when it suited “their” party, and keep quiet when it didn’t, they’d be no better than the spinning of the MSM we bash.

Michelle said what she thought about the issue. You don’t really disagree, but you are angry that she says it when the elections are on the line. Too bad. She has a spine, you don’t.

Why does a liberal like Honora

i’m going to say the same thing i said when the msm pulled whosit della whatsisface out of their asses to “prove” something about the corker ad: who the fuck is that?

The people who ran Allen’s campaign should be forever banned from political work. What a bunch of nonsense this is.

honora on November 4, 2006 at 10:57 AM

Michelle, AllahPundit, and Victor Hanson Davis should be asking themselves: Why does a liberal like Honora so vehemently agree with my position on “Smutgate?” Is this a good sign?

Republicans getting all bent out of shape about Allen bringing up Webb’s smut are suffering from Demmitude.

It was effective, so why get so upset?

Prediction: Allen 52%, Webb 48%.

Here is an ad I got in the mail today. It talks about Webb’s smut:

“In James Webbs, women always have the same role-sex objects:
Something to Die For: There are no female characters who are not promiscuous.
The Emperor’s General: All female characters in this book engage in extramarital sex.
Lost Soldiers: In general, women advanced only if they used their bodies. They may be businesswomen, but that usually meant prostitution, either past or present.
A Sense of Honor: Women are depicted as mere sex object.

No Repect for Women. . .No Way He Should be Our Senator.”

Great ad! But it will be too much I’m afraid for those Republicans suffering from Demmitude.

Also, while I was raking leaves, four young women had the neighborhood covered; they were handing out George Allen material and flyers. If the polls right now say it is a tie, that is really bad news from Jim Webb.

Here are people not giving Webb a Pass

Nancy Reagan, Michael Reagan, Our President, Our Vice President and his Wife, The house Republicans, The Senate Republicans, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Tony Snow, and too many numerous others.

You have Michelle, John Gibson, Allah and now Victor David Hanson defending Webb.

You see, this isn’t the first time Webb’s gone off the deep end – also using his war hero status as an excuse to write porn into novels

Here are some war heros and authors who interviewed war heros that did not write porn into novels, nor degrade women and children in official writings

Admirals Nimitz, Halsey, King, Fletvher Spruace, Turner

Generals, Eisenhower Holling Mad Smith, Bedell Smith, Bradley, Mitchell, McArthur, Patton, Hodge, Wainwright

Marines like Chesty Puller, Vandegrift, and Pedro Del Valle

Authors who served or wrote about combat such as victor David Hanson, Stephen Ambrose, Ralph Peters, Tom Clancy (fiction and non Fiction), Toland, Churchill, and on and on

But we must give Webb a pass because, well Webb ran a dirty campaign and he wrote dirty unseemly things both as a high ranking military official and as a recent novelist.

There seems to be some pretense here that discussion of Webb’s fictional writings should be off the table.

…because Michelle Malkin made a “big deal” about Allen’s campaign ads a few days ago, — ads which questioned Webb’s integrity based on the content of Webb’s fictional books.

I gave Michelle the benefit of the doubt because she usually does an exemplary job of gathering ALL the facts. Perhaps Allen’s ads WERE out-of-bounds. Nevertheless, if I was voting in that district, I WOULD want to know about the contents of Webb’s books. Forgive me, but I am of the opinion that once a person decides to pursue a career in the public arena, he/she automatically forfeits his/her right to the same amount of privacy or “benefit of the doubt” that the rest of us “nobodies” take for granted. IMHO, for these people, EVERYTHING is fair game for scrutiny. Am I being nosy? I don’t think so. Ted Haggard is a classic example. It is ALL-TOO-EASY for politicians, preachers, and their ilk to literally fool thousands of people about who they really are. ANY hint, any shred of evidence, any whiff of impropriety should be carefully considered. I am not advocating witch-hunts. I just don’t want to be naive. The Ted Haggard episode is not unique. Over the years, we have witnessed many examples in both the pulpit and in public office where the person that was elevated to “god-hood” status or the person that was elected turned out to be “someone other than” the person that supporters thought they were.

I’m not hearing any critics say that his writings on any topic should be curbed, only that it is fair game when assessing him as a candidate for Senate.

Some will learn of it and not care, others like Granny will care a great deal.

Rather than condemning candidates who are skilled in artistic and literary expression, we should welcome them.

Like the person who placed a Cross in a jar of pee?

In fact, VDH so convinced me with his arguments against making imaginary stories of authors a moral litmus test; of authors candor and courage superior to many others; and that no matter what else I may think of such people as Webb at least he brings diveristy that I cannot in good faith vote for such a mediocre specimen as Webb and shall write in the name of Ward Churchill for Senate.

I don’t support Webb, but the Allen campaign shot themselves in the foot with this non-issue. If Webb is not moral it’s because of his beliefs, not his artistic undertakings of fiction.

I differentiate between Webb’s fiction and Webb’s behavior. I do not believe his fiction is a reflection upon his own personal behavior.

However, if 30 year old comments, made by a man much younger and much less wise than he is today, can be used to attack his candidacy claiming that he is unfit, 30 years later to be a US Senator, then words written to appeal to an audience in a commercially marketed novel can be used too.

They started it.

They destroyed political comity.

It is what Democrats always do.

They sowed the wind and now they reap the whirlwind.

On the fiction-writings of Webb/Mrs. Cheney and others…good luck with (the p—s in the mouth and the lesbian scenes, etc.) writing or other forms of free art when we have no heads, or when those which do, have to wear burkas and dishdashas.

To be sure I’m for libertarian freedom for all, in all things, especially expression, but we have to first keep and defend being still free. I don’t see at all how the Pelosi/Reid team will do that.

Then you come back and say the current team is not perfect either. I checked – God said he/she is not available.

My earlier post is right under the goddess herself! You know you’re all jealous!

Scot on November 3, 2006 at 11:11 PM

Yeah…. Well … That’s as close as you’ll ever get !!

And yes, we are all jealous. :-)

Nope. First against the wall will be people who insist on backing into parking spaces…

Slublog on November 3, 2006 at 11:00 PM

Maybe they’ve just been trained to always combat park. Either way, I’m holding out for the revolution’s revolution’s revolution.

Exit question: who’s a bigger traitor to conservatism, VDH or Michelle? You can’t vote for me; we’ve already established that I’m the biggest traitor.

oh what-the-hell-ever.

your interpretation of the kerry remark was incorrect. don’t make a martyr case out of it. that would be lefty behavior.

Nope. First against the wall will be people who insist on backing into parking spaces, and pedestrians who cross against the light.

Heh… I thought the parking spaces thing was just a personal pet peeve of mine. It’s so retarded!

Don’t forget the worst, though! In parking lots (especially at malls, etc), people who legitimately cross the street as pedestrians, but do so at something like a 45 degree angle, ensuring the longest possible wait for the cars that were nice enough to stop for them.

Those people can die. Cross the street at a perpindicular angle to the sidewalk when cars are waiting, morons.

Webb’s past life proves that he is a far different, far better person than many of the warped characters he feels he must create. And we should know and appreciate such a distinction — while also restoring the critical fault line between art and reality.

As much as I respect and admire VDH, how can we be sure that Webb is a different and better person than his created characters?
And does Webb know the difference between art and reality?
Putting words and thoughts into print gives certain ideas a potency and life they wouldn’t otherwise have had–Webb’s “prose” is almost a paean to perversion.
The sheer fact that Webb thought about it and wrote it is very troubling to me and speaks to the man’s character or lack thereof and is critical to his contribution as a senator and somehow who would be called to vote on a number of morality issues, a subject that Webb seems to think is flexible and variable depending on “culture”–His excuse for this sickness was “it’s the custom in Vietnam.”
“As a man thinks, so is he…”–the Bible
If Webb’s moral compass has a variable pole star, then what’s to guide him as a Senator?
The Allen people were quite right to bring this to the attention of the people of Virginia.
As see-dubya pointed out at this blog, it’s not as if this is the centerpiece of Allen’s campaign and he’s made his views on the issues and his record in the Senate the main focus of his campaign, whereas I haven’t heard anything from Webb about the issues, but instead only “macaca” and the outing of Allen as a Jew.
Whereas a broken watch is right only twice a day, people like VDH seldom make a misstep, but I think he’s just plain wrong about this…(and he backed Hillary for president some months back, too! Just when you think a former Democrat gets it, their mind snaps and drags them back into Liberalism!)

i think it should survive only alongside “clue goo”* as a referential stinger (i.e.: “that puppy is so adorable i’d like to pick it up, flip it upsode down and put its penis in my mouth.”)

*i further propose that “clue goo” be formalized in reference to any any absurd assertion which could be charicterized as “truther” in reasoning and authorship. by way of this definition, the assertion that the playboy bunny in the corker ad was meant to stir racist fears of miscegination is/was “clue goo”.