I caught a fair amount of crappe yesterday for posting a clip of the Hansen Brothers from the movie Slapshot as a get-out-the-vote motivator. The biggest flaccid of them all—Monsieur Allahpundit—has been leading the sack cloth and ashes brigade for…

Update: Jim Webb just e-mailed me to say that we could heal this rift if I’d just take Ace, turn him upside down, and — you know.

Whoa there, cowboys. Let’s not make this one of “them” sites.

Personally either way is a lack of respect and deserving of contempt.

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Kerry isn’t sorry. Never was. Never will be.

He meant to say that our troops were terrorizing women and children in the middle of the night.

He meant to say that a volunteer military would be filled with poor brown and black troops.

He meant to say that the troops in Vietnam were cutting off limbs, ears, burning villages in the style of JenJis Khan.

He means what he says, until it turns into a politically expedient necessity to say the opposite, as in this siutation.

Kerry is a disgrace to the uniform and should resign. He may have intended to take a swipe at Bush, but in doing so, he MEANT to take a swipe at the troops as well.

Finally Allah’s position is swayed by his intellectual entnaglement with KP. In drawing her to our side he has felt the taint of the moonbats….heh

FWIW, I don’t think it is contradictory to believe that Kerry intended to insult Bush in that particular comment AND that his parapraxis is revealing of his thought patterns and private opinions. In fact, it seems to be the most reasonable option.

Thanks to Entelechy for teaching me the word “parapraxis”. :)

Please seek divine inspiration from Uh…you’re self.

Allah, Michell, Lets have a vote..Ah La INSTA style. I’d love to see the results.

My prediction….ACE in A Land Slide

Just kidding. I thought Ace’s response deserved a link after I accused him of being in “nutroots territory” last night, which was in turn a response to him implying that I was “crazy” for thinking Kerry’s remark might have been aimed at Bush and not the military.

Allah is right. Kerry’s comments where intended to be aimed at Bush.

However, what Kerry actually said is not what he intended. What Kerry actually said was indeed a direct attack on the military. Words that fall right in line with Kerry’s history of attacking the military.

I don’t care what Kerry wants me to think he really thinks he intended to say. If that is what he wanted to say, then that is what he should have said.

I do know that what he did say is way out of line for a Senator. Freudian slip, or not. Kerry owes us an honest apology, not the half-a$$ed excuses he’s offered so far.

He needs to go home to Bethany.

I call it a draw. Let’s put our underwear back on!

Did this post come off okay? I don’t want it to seem antagonistic. This is all in good fun on my end.

Allahpundit on November 2, 2006 at 7:51 PM

Not antagonistic at all. So, who gets to keep the Miata and the Mapplethorpe portraits?

So let me ask my fellow righties — assuming I’m still allowed to call myself a righty, given some of the remarks being tossed around in Ace’s comments.

Allah, while I disagree with you on this one, I can’t imagine anyone here would have any right to deny you the right to call yourself a righty (I don’t believe it’s possible for me to fit another “right” in there).

My beef with the whole thing is that as you yourself pointed out, many on the Left believe he said the very same thing his “botched” joke actually said. And to be honest, even when considering the context, I believe the statement makes more sense if you believe it is about the troops.

Bush went to Yale and received higher grades than Kerry did. And to tell kids that if they’re “lazy” they can end up like Bush, well, it’s just stupid.

I can see that it’s like he meant to insult Bush, but I believe he was too irresponsible in his comment. Either he didn’t think about the troops when making that comment or as Ace said intentionally wanted to slyly insult them.

Either way, I believe he deserves the consequences his “joke” have brought upon him.

Too bad, you two were a cute couple.

My personal opinion on Kerry’s remarks:

I think he said what he meant to say. I’ve certainly heard plenty of other liberals make similar comments about the military. It’s one of those things they take as God-given…well…not God-given…..how about…Nature-given? truth (such as “Poverty can be cured if we throw more money at it.” and “Everyone else will disarm if the US will disarm first.”). They think the only way you end up in the military is if you’re too dumb to get out of it.

However, if he had simply done the politically expedient thing and given a ’sincere’ and ‘heartfelt’ apology along the lines of, “I am very embarrassed and sorry that the statement came out like that. I misspoke and I am terribly sorry and don’t feel that way at all.” and blah blah blah, photo op, etc, the story would have quickly gone away.

John Kerry is an idiot for issuing a non-apology that allowed this to be turned into a story.

Thank god for idiots like Kerry.

Democrats do nothing but deride Bush in their speeches, so when an oblique remark is made that could be interpreted as deriding Bush — we’re not supposed to interpret it that way?

This is where Ace torpedoes his own argument.

I would never do that; I’M JOHN KERRY

“…and I went to Vietnam; I report for duty.”

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/weinreb110206.htm

The article above is a perfect satire of Kerry’s attitude and why Ace is correct. IMO

I’d bet most of the military are too :) (at least everyone of them I’ve talked to are)

Little Green Footballs

I’m not going to get into a knockdown mud rassle with Allahpundit about it (or with Mr. Genial, for that matter), but I’m with Ace on this one. I just don’t buy John F. Kerry’s excuses, and I’m skep…

Did this post come off okay? I don’t want it to seem antagonistic. This is all in good fun on my end.

Allahpundit on November 2, 2006 at 7:51 PM

It was laugh-out-loud funny. I don’t think either of you has wandered off into Commissar Land yet.