Video: Tony Snow vs. the press corps on Kerrygate

posted at 2:08 pm on November 1, 2006 by Allahpundit

Tony’s milkin’ it, Cheney’s milkin’ it, Santorum’s milkin’ it, and I’m milkin’ it with both hands. As you’ll see, TS commends Democrats who have already “stepped up” to denounce Waffles’s remarks. The latest to do so? Hillary, who called them “inappropriate” earlier this morning. Near as I can tell, Fox is the only major news outlet reporting that; a search for “hillary kerry” on Google News returns nothing on topic.

Snow’s main point throughout is that Kerry could have defused this easily by apologizing. Not so, though; as Tom Maguire explains, Waffles is now a card-carrying member of the fightin’ nutroots. And the fightin’ nutroots does not apologize. Which explains why the latest post at Kerry’s moronic left-of-Kos blog praises the “inimitable common sense” … of Keith Olbermann.

For the record, Kerry’s office has released what he claims were his prepared remarks at the Angelides event. In pertinent part:

“It’s great to be here with college students. I can’t overstress the importance of a great education. Do you know where you end up if you don’t study, if you aren’t smart, if you’re intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq. Just ask President Bush.”

Judge for yourself. Here’s the video of TS dealing with hard-hitting questions about why Kerry should have to apologize when Rush Limbaugh hasn’t apologized to Michael J. Fox. Except, of course, that he has. Don’t miss the end, either; Tony’s got a good question of his own. Below that video you’ll find the full clip of Kerry’s appearance on Imus this morning. He apologizes — for botching a joke — almost slips and says “Vietnam” instead of “Iraq” (at around 2:05), and, within the span of 90 seconds, slams Rumsfeld for not having sent enough troops and McCain for wanting to send more troops. That little pearl of wisdom begins at around 5:50.


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Not that I will ever buy Kerry’s bullshit excuse… but if I were to read that transcript and not realize that it was in all likelyhood thrown together to try to slow this snowball down, then I’m lead to believe he went off script and said what he truly believed. Instead of conveying the message contained in the text, he totally gave a completely different message that can not be interpretted in any way other than troop bashing. Aside from the fact that one of the explanations they’d given was that he left out 2 words here and another word there, when clearly this “transcript” (read: cover-up) is quite a bit different from what he actually said.

RightWinged on November 1, 2006 at 2:19 PM

Example #25820 of why Snow should have been hired years ago as Press Secretary. I just can’t see McClellan or even Fleischer being able to handle these questions as smoothly as Snow does.

Queasy on November 1, 2006 at 2:21 PM

Oooh. Tony’s shirt seems to be stuffed with whoop-ass, John Boy.

“Have you though about sending Senator Kerry a gift basket?”

Heh heh heh.

Oh, and…

Which explains why the latest post at Kerry’s moronic left-of-Kos blog praises the “inimitable common sense” … of Keith Olbermann.

Bwwaaaahahahahahahaaaaa!!

Pablo on November 1, 2006 at 2:22 PM

This released “prepared remarks” bit is an OUTRIGHT LIE!!
Listen to him from the beginning of the vid, whoever has a full copy, Kerry says “but before I begin” (or similar) then he says off the top of his head, how he feels about our troops. Same as he has felt for 30 plus years. There were NO WRITTEN REMARKS about Iraq. Kerry , you disgust me!

shooter on November 1, 2006 at 2:22 PM

“Have you thought about sending Senator Kerry a gift basket?”

HAHAHA! Someone in the press has a sense of humor.

infidel4life on November 1, 2006 at 2:27 PM

Kerry is so smart … – How smart is he? – Kerry is so smart, he can’t even get the punchline right from prepared remarks.

Niko on November 1, 2006 at 2:27 PM

I like the pathetic comparison to Rush Limbaugh’s apparent insult that never happened. I am amused.

zerodamage on November 1, 2006 at 2:30 PM

Whoa. Pat on the Back for Mr. Snow!
And big thumbs down for Kerry. Anyway you rearrange that “prepared” joke it insults our troops. Good job Kerry, but just remember, not all military service men and women act like you did during the vietnam war. Like maybe when you nominated yourself for a purple heart? Yeah, you were real intelligent when you were trying to help out the North.

Good thinking. Dumbass

lgodfrey88 on November 1, 2006 at 2:33 PM

Why does Kerry have to be above us intellectually in so many ways? Why, to me in my lowbrained Gehenna, he sounds stupid.

Keljeck on November 1, 2006 at 2:34 PM

Tony Tony Tony……..how do you take it????….It is like being in a room full of Ted Knights…..

and Shooter I agree with you….it was EXACTLY what he thinks of the troops scrubbed of all his PC bullcrap.

Limerick on November 1, 2006 at 2:35 PM

Todays ‘word of the day’ is prevaricate , how unbelievably fitting for our soon to be past Senator from Mass-ass.

shooter on November 1, 2006 at 2:35 PM

PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT of the smarmy reporters is over at Snapped Shot. You are gonna LOVE these jerks, folks! (Not trying to spam, AP—just making sure everyone gets a chance to see these slimes in action!)

Regards,
Brian from Snapped Shot

Brian on November 1, 2006 at 2:36 PM

Oh, and good job Ms. Commentator for trying to drag Rush into it. Your just proving his point when he calls you people the “drive-by media.” You just take any shot you can get, huh?

lgodfrey88 on November 1, 2006 at 2:37 PM

So what ! His criticism of the readiness and intell capabilities is worse, because it insultes the people “WHO SPENT THEIR LIVES FIGHTING ENEMIES OF THE U.S.”,not for veterens, which is a lie. Yeah John K. thats what I want to come home to somebody spit in my face. Signed, Crazy Old Hard Hat Dude

sonnyspats1 on November 1, 2006 at 2:37 PM

The quotable Kerry:

John McCain says we oughta send another hundred thousand troops over there. First of all, we don’t have another hundred thousand troops. Secondly, uh, if we send them over there, uh, it’s going to do exactly what’s already happenned, which is attract more terrorists, more jihadists.

Our own generals are telling us that it’s the numbers of troops are the problem and the fact is that that’s what’s adding to the number of terrorists in the world.

I see, so it’s the U.S. military that is the problem. There are simply too many of them. And this creates terrorists and jihadists.

Military logic from John Kerry.

Christoph on November 1, 2006 at 2:40 PM

The liberal reporters are trying to shift the topic from Kerry’s remarks to anything conservative, such as Rush Limbaugh. Tony Snow is smart to keep the subject on John Kerry.

Note to George Allen: As a Virginia resident, I desire that you send out that picture of Jim Webb in a tight, chummy pose with John Kerry to every household in Virginia. After all, liberal minds think alike, and Kerry committed the liberal deadly sin of candidly stating what liberals believe about the troops.

Finally, the smartest thing someone who is 18 can do is to serve the country, get real world experience seeing the entire world by serving with a highly sophisticated corporation, the military, and getting a free education to boot.

Contrast that with paying tens of thousands of dollars per year to get a “multicultural,” anti-American education in deconstructing Western civ with a bunch of drunk young college students just away from home for the first home. And they don’t work or know anything about the world and are thus influenced by bearded, depressed, liberal professors.

Who are the smart ones?

januarius on November 1, 2006 at 2:40 PM

Sen. John Kerry’s words – Intention vs. Reality

From the ABC article AP linked to.

How many of us, I doubt any, do get to live life with replays and remakes? How many can come back and release “intended” statements, no matter how stupid?
If he goofed, he should have restated right away. Basta!

It’s hilarious to think that C. Matthews and K. Olbermann are considered statesmen who’ll save the Libs from themselves. There certainly is much hope!

Not good for 2008 but very good for 2006. This will not keep the dems home but it will have kicked the repubs like nothing else into their derrières – nothing will awaken them quicker than an insult (intended or not) of our soldiers!

Entelechy on November 1, 2006 at 2:43 PM

Yeah, I think Kerry is lying.

But if we assume that he’s telling the truth, how lame do you have to be to mangle a “Bush is dumb” joke so badly that it turns into a big fiasco for the Democrats right before an election? Sorry, who’s dumb, John?

sandberg on November 1, 2006 at 2:43 PM

Prepared comments?

Yeah, prepared 3 hours after the you-know-what hit the fan.

RightWired on November 1, 2006 at 2:45 PM

I’m not a political analyst, but I think we need to start dropping this John Kerry comment stuff.

Not because I think he is cool and all. But because we have made our point.

John Kerry has “apologized” on the Imus show. Yeah, it was real nuanced, but he did do it. Sort of.

But if we keep beating this, eventually, people are gonna get sick of it, and start thinking “give it a rest” and that we are obsessing over something too long.

I think we’ve already won this battle. Let’s not snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. People won’t forget this at election day. Let’s not make them resent the republicans for keeping it in their face 24/7.

EFG on November 1, 2006 at 2:45 PM

Heh, I have to hand it to Kerry. He just keeps shoveling himself deeper and deeper into that hole.

I agree with Snow that no matter what his meaning was, all he had to do was come out and apologize to the troops.

Benaiah on November 1, 2006 at 2:45 PM

Here’s how I put it in my post:

I wish you could have seen the entire thing live. It was like elementary school kids explaining a fight on the playground to the principal. These were all of Kerry’s friends saying “they (the GOP) started it!”. Pathetic.

It is really shameful, I just can’t stand these people. And David Gregory got all pissy because Snow said that Kerry was the leader of the Democratic Party. Snow said, basically ‘oh sorry, that’s Howard Dean, you’re right’. Which is hilarious enough… but really, Kerry is their party leader. They say that Bush is the GOP leader, and the Dems tried to make Kerry the president… how is he not their leader?

RightWinged on November 1, 2006 at 2:46 PM

Can this man be any more stupid? Unbelievable, listening to Kerry on IMUS. The REPUBLICANS are smearing on this? Is he kidding? Keep digging John.

CrimsonFisted on November 1, 2006 at 2:46 PM

Keep digging, Skerry…

Keep digging.

Corky on November 1, 2006 at 2:47 PM

Prepared comments?

Yeah, prepared 3 hours after the you-know-what hit the fan.

RightWired on November 1, 2006 at 2:45 PM

The elitism of even contemplating to release such rubbish!

Oh yeah, the libs are for the “little guy” – and I believe the Earth is flat.

Entelechy on November 1, 2006 at 2:48 PM

Allah….where is Pelosi…Reid…Dean……on a camping trip?

Limerick on November 1, 2006 at 2:48 PM

Let’s not make them resent the republicans for keeping it in their face 24/7.

EFG on November 1, 2006 at 2:45 PM

EFG, while I understand your post, I don’t believe for a sec. that not even one liberal will now vote for a conservative but I do believe that this will have kicked the repubs into their derrières to go vote.

Entelechy on November 1, 2006 at 2:53 PM

Considering who Kerry is blaming all this criticism on, does that mean the Democrats, Hillary included, are now part of a right wing smear machine?

Karl Rove, you magnificent bastard!

TexasRainmaker on November 1, 2006 at 2:55 PM

“…hey, we’re throwing you a life line!!”

lol!! Snow is great! Very calm thru it all…like him!

JoeFunk on November 1, 2006 at 2:58 PM

Why bring Rush Limbaugh into this; he is a private citizen. John Kerry’s actions everyday have a possible impact on our troops and the conditions under which the do their jobs. Rush Limbaugh’s words have no bearing on Michael J Fox’s work environment.
What a stupid comparison by the journalist.

bopbottle on November 1, 2006 at 3:03 PM

By the way Kerry, why so long in the face?

HAHAHAHAHAHA
yes, I sometimes LAUGH at my own jokes, but at least you know they’re jokes……kinda.

shooter on November 1, 2006 at 3:04 PM

Tony Snow is absolutely right. If Sen. Kerry just apologized for what he *said*, instead of trying to deflect blame, this would be a non-issue.

DakRoland on November 1, 2006 at 3:05 PM

Kerry should not say sorry. He meant what he said. It’s a free country and he’ll suffer the consequences of his statement.

dougless on November 1, 2006 at 3:05 PM

By the way, Kerry’s mention of inadequate armor got me thinking, didn’t he vote AGAINST the money that would be used to get that body armor?

DakRoland on November 1, 2006 at 3:06 PM

TS commends Democrats who have already “stepped up” to denounce Waffles’s remarks. The latest to do so? Hillary, who called them “inappropriate” earlier this morning.

I haven’t heard that kind of tough talk since Slick Willie denounced Sistah Souljah back in 1992!

Lehuster on November 1, 2006 at 3:07 PM

The last time there was bipartisan clamoring of this magnitude for an apology, there was a stained dress in an FBI evidence bag.

Valiant on November 1, 2006 at 3:13 PM

Now for some great political theater what we need is another big fat gaffe from the neocon side. Somebody take the muzzle off Ann Coulter! Where the hell has she been?

Constantine on November 1, 2006 at 3:13 PM

I’m not a political analyst, but I think we need to start dropping this John Kerry comment stuff.

Not because I think he is cool and all. But because we have made our point.

John Kerry has “apologized” on the Imus show. Yeah, it was real nuanced, but he did do it. Sort of.

But if we keep beating this, eventually, people are gonna get sick of it, and start thinking “give it a rest” and that we are obsessing over something too long.

I think we’ve already won this battle. Let’s not snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. People won’t forget this at election day. Let’s not make them resent the republicans for keeping it in their face 24/7.

EFG on November 1, 2006 at 2:45 PM

Excuse me. This ain’t a movie. Mabey you can’t handle the truth. The American people can handle the truth. The footage we see today on FOX of casualties is the truth. We need to beat the guys doin this stuff. Civil war in Iraq ok we can and will sort it out. The Islamists are demonstrating their desire to fight. Nobody wants to fight, but we were attacked. Remember two little buildings called the world trade center. Do you know what was contained in the world trade center. Check it out ,then come back and tell me if you think George W. Bush did a good job of keeping this country running. What Senator Kerry is stating is only a testament that He hasn’t done HIS homework.

sonnyspats1 on November 1, 2006 at 3:16 PM

EFG, while I understand your post, I don’t believe for a sec. that not even one liberal will now vote for a conservative but I do believe that this will have kicked the repubs into their derrières to go vote.

Entelechy on November 1, 2006 at 2:53 PM

I agree. Kerry’s arrogance, elitism and anti-troop stance motivated more conservatives to vote in 2004 than anybody could have imagined (well, Rove’s evil plan also had something to do with it). Kerry is a scary glimpse into what this country will look like in Congress if conservatives don’t get out and vote on Nov. 7th. One thing to remember is that Johnny Waffle is not the worst of the nutroots bunch (he may be the most ignorant of the lot).

Rick on November 1, 2006 at 3:16 PM

EFG, while I understand your post, I don’t believe for a sec. that not even one liberal will now vote for a conservative but I do believe that this will have kicked the repubs into their derrières to go vote.

Entelechy on November 1, 2006 at 2:53 PM

I agree with everything you said. Heck, what Kerry said sure motivated me even more to vote. And yeah, it won’t persuade somebody like Kos to change over.

So I think we have already gotten the benefit (motivated the republicans and maybe convinced some undecided middle of the road types to go vote republican)

But if we keep beating this too much, (and I can’t say when exactly is too much) we may end up pissing off even more undecideds because they think we are obsessing over this issue too much.

Again, I can’t point to any exact quantifiable thing that says we should drop it a this date/time, or we should keep pressing this point.

But, my gut opinion is we have gotten all the benefit we are going to get, and we now risk a backlash.

Of course, I’m not a professional politician or campaign manager.

EFG on November 1, 2006 at 3:20 PM

Neal Boortz, who has been in the “the Republicans deserve to be taught a lesson” camp for the 2006 elections, has now said that Kerry has reminded him just how much worse it could get, and will be voting Republican. I think this could have a similar effect around the country. In an election with hundreds of individual races there simply is no “magic bullet” that will affect them all, but Kerry’s performance is about as good as you can hope for.

Dudley Smith on November 1, 2006 at 3:25 PM

Now for some great political theater what we need is another big fat gaffe from the neocon side. Somebody take the muzzle off Ann Coulter! Where the hell has she been?

Constantine on November 1, 2006 at 3:13 PM

As far as I can tell Constatine, Ann Coulter is neither a sitting member of the U.S. Senate or running for office.

How can you possibly compare commentary from some political pundit with statements from an elected official? That’s as idiotic as that question during the Snow press conference comparing Rush’s apology with Kerry’s.

Besides, we get plenty of meaningless gaffes each and every night from Olbergasm and Chrissy Matthews.

BacaDog on November 1, 2006 at 3:31 PM

The very notion that Kerry was insulting the troops is of course preposterous!

aengus on November 1, 2006 at 3:32 PM

EFG on November 1, 2006 at 3:20 PM

I’ve seen your point, and thought…well maybe EFG is right.

Then I thought, why are we keeping it alive?
AHHH. We aren’t, Kerry is. Kerry and the Dems, all the b.s., all the lies about a ‘joke’, the lies about prepared written statements. Snow even said it, ‘we threw him a line’.
Thats the story now, not just Kerry , but the way the Dems lined up to LIE WITH HIM AND FOR HIM. That isnt going away today, not by me.

shooter on November 1, 2006 at 3:34 PM

I agree, EFG. This story pretty much sells itself. The damage to the Democrats has already been done. Thank you, John Kerry.

sandberg on November 1, 2006 at 3:34 PM

Now for some great political theater what we need is another big fat gaffe from the neocon side. Somebody take the muzzle off Ann Coulter! Where the hell has she been?

Constantine on November 1, 2006 at 3:13 PM

Ann has not moved. She is always here.

I wonder what cave the extremists of your party (Pelosi, et al.) are hiding in. Probably hunkered down with Osama making post-election plans. Don’t belive terorists are pro-Democrat- look at this image.

Valiant on November 1, 2006 at 3:36 PM

One of the leftist reps on O’Reilly [i think] came up with two distinctly different reasons for Kerry’s ‘misunderstanding’ within a span of 2 minutes. Which one is it? Both you say? How could that be? Maybe, the NYTimes could dedicate 2 stories on the front page and let the readers choose whichever one they like best. They could have a vote and promote the winner as the real truth. This plan might actually work for them. They could call it ‘Broken Journalism’ or ‘Finding the Truth in America’ or ‘eeny-meeny-miny-mo.’

Griz on November 1, 2006 at 3:40 PM

Kerry was the Democratic presidential candidate, and now we have a bunch of Democrats backing away from him. That shakes confidence in their next presidential candidate in 2008.

Not that they had any choice; the alternative is to admit to not supporting the troops. Either way, it makes the Democrats look bad.

“Bush is dumb!”

sandberg on November 1, 2006 at 3:41 PM

If only you were as outraged when a Republican does something stupid.

It pleases me no end that Olby’s intelligent, incisive commentary upsets the right so much that they’d prefer to watch a guy who gets off by sexually harassing his employees being brown-nosed on his own program.

Constantine on November 1, 2006 at 3:43 PM

Where the hell has she (Ann Coulter) been?

Constantine on November 1, 2006 at 3:13 PM

I don’t care where Ann spends her time. I’d like to know where Mrs. Pelosi is. At least H. Clinton made her view known. It wasn’t music to your ears.

Well, the liberals wanted to make this election national. Who’d have thunk they’d get that done by one of their own ‘leaders’, the one who ‘loves’ the troops, because he went to Vietnam?

I’d like to know what the Carville/Matlin dinner conversations are like these evenings.

Anyone checked on the heart condition of poor Rahm Emmanuel?

Stay away from Mr. Schumer.

Not even Mr. Dean could defend Mr. Kerry this morning. He just yammered something against Mr. Bush.

Update: Mr. Kerry was just seen peeking out from the doghouse of the Heinz compound.

Entelechy on November 1, 2006 at 3:45 PM

Gosh, I can’t even finish listening to the Imus clip. Talk about “… if you aren’t smart, if you’re intellectually lazy ….”. He just keeps digging and digging like some frenzied miner . He even extended the warranty on his 1971 defamation of those in the military.

Kerry is working overtime to be the poster boy for the joke he botched.

P.S. The above comment was not intended to insult frenzied miners … or poster boys … or girls … or HA, who worked so hard to bring us the Imus clip.

Dusty on November 1, 2006 at 3:45 PM

Sorry EFG, can’t agree with you today. Piling on Kerry is such a sweet obsession. It’s like finding that rib-eye steak you stashed in the freezer and forgot about. An unexpected surprise that puts a big smile on your face. I’m gonna soak it in for a while, thank you very much.

fogw on November 1, 2006 at 3:46 PM

It pleases me no end that Olby’s intelligent, incisive commentary

Stop right there- you really are delusional.

Valiant on November 1, 2006 at 3:46 PM

You know what my favorite part about Constantine is, he uses people he probably decries and bitches about (Coulter) to Justify the actions of someone who he refuses to criticize and bitch about (*Insert random Democrat here*).

You can’t use behavior you disagree with as an example of why that behavior is okay on your side. It’s intellectually dishonest…you can’t have it both ways…

“As far as I can tell Constatine, Ann Coulter is neither a sitting member of the U.S. Senate or running for office.”

Good point BacaDog…the liberals over here are using Rush Limbaugh as an example of why Republicans are just as insensitive as Kerry…as if Rush ran for office, won an election, and votes for, of, and by the people. He’s an entertainer, Coulter is a columnist. What they represent is their own interest, not that of the United States.

I still think Rove was behind this all…he always has been.

StoutRepublican on November 1, 2006 at 3:47 PM

How can you possibly compare commentary from some political pundit with statements from an elected official? That’s as idiotic as that question during the Snow press conference comparing Rush’s apology with Kerry’s.
BacaDog on November 1, 2006 at 3:31 PM

Just in case Connie missed it.

infidel on November 1, 2006 at 3:48 PM

If you listen to Kerry’s ‘explanation’ it basically boils down to this:

‘I meant to tell a joke, but I blew the punchline. I didn’t mean to offend the troops, I meant to offend the President…….while we’re at war…….and troops are in harm’s way…………..to fight terrorists who want to kill us…….so, ummmm,….I thought it would be funny, as a grown-man and former candidate for the Presidency,….to stand up here and insult the President……because that would be funny, right?…..heh-heh…….ummmm…….Hello?….*tap-tap*…Is this thing on…? (crickets chirping)…..”

Idiot.

guitarguy on November 1, 2006 at 3:50 PM

OJ killed his wife.

OJ Killed his wife????

dread pirate roberts on November 1, 2006 at 3:50 PM

Constantine, I admire you for holding the fort today, for your entire side. Sincerely,

Entelechy on November 1, 2006 at 3:52 PM

Liberalism I can understand but “Olby’s intelligent, incisive commentary”? He’s confused on so many levels. He compared Bush to Neville Chamberlain and Adolf Hitler. I’m not familiar with the appeaso-Nazis. Another time he attempted to emulate Edward R. Murrow’s televised segments arguing against McCarthyite anti-communist tactics and then accused Bush of being anti-American. Would you not prefer a liberal whose mind isn’t working on multiple levels of confusion?

aengus on November 1, 2006 at 3:53 PM

It pleases me no end that Olby’s intelligent, incisive commentary…

Yes, and President Kerry is doing a marvelous job!

You’re going to have to do a lot better than that, Constantine. I’ve got a pair of loafers that could cut that crap to ribbons. And that’s with no pennies in ‘em!

Pablo on November 1, 2006 at 3:55 PM

guitarguy,

*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*

fogw on November 1, 2006 at 3:57 PM

This election can still go either way.

Sincerely, I’m beginning to think and worry about how a loss (or better – not a gain) of both branches would affect the Left and what reaction they might have. BDS has run its course. What would be next?

Entelechy on November 1, 2006 at 3:57 PM

OJ killed his wife.

OJ Killed his wife????
dread pirate roberts on November 1, 2006 at 3:50 PM

Are you kidding me!! OJ is hunting for the “real” killer

John Kerry is hunting for a better excuse… wont work John.

Viper1 on November 1, 2006 at 3:57 PM

If you listen to Kerry’s ‘explanation’ it basically boils down to this:

‘I meant to tell a joke, but I blew the punchline. I didn’t mean to offend the troops, I meant to offend the President…….while we’re at war…….and troops are in harm’s way…………..to fight terrorists who want to kill us…….so, ummmm,….I thought it would be funny, as a grown-man and former candidate for the Presidency,….to stand up here and insult the President……because that would be funny, right?…..heh-heh…….ummmm…….Hello?….*tap-tap*…Is this thing on…? (crickets chirping)…..”

Idiot.

guitarguy on November 1, 2006 at 3:50 PM

Dead on perfect. Well said!

Kerry should resign. He is a disgrace to his party and his Country.

techno_barbarian on November 1, 2006 at 4:00 PM

BDS has run its course. What would be next?

I don’t think BDS will quite have run its course ’til January 2009. Ritual hara-kiri will come next.

aengus on November 1, 2006 at 4:01 PM

How can you possibly compare commentary from some political pundit with statements from an elected official? That’s as idiotic as that question during the Snow press conference comparing Rush’s apology with Kerry’s.
BacaDog on November 1, 2006 at 3:31 PM

It’s all about who gets the press. Rather disingenuous to claim pundits’ comments don’t matter as much (especially when the discussion is “political theater”) when so much page space is given to them here. You’re right, you can’t compare Rush’s comments to Kerry’s; Rush meant what he said, and it wasn’t an omission of a few words.

Constantine on November 1, 2006 at 4:02 PM

Update: John Kerry just said that he misunderdelivered a joke on Monday night and we’re too dumb to get it.

Update II: John Kerry then said that he’s always loved us becauase we’re Americans, all 300 million of us, and he’s always been an American, and he didn’t mean to call us dumb. It was a misunderstanding of “intention” vs. “reality” and it’s the fault of Messrs Bush and Limbaugh.

Entelechy on November 1, 2006 at 4:03 PM

re: The ‘Halp us Jon Carry’ banner.

This is equivalent to them putting their hands on their crotches and saying: “HEY KERRY,…RIGHT HERE……BLEAAHHHHHHH!!!!!”

guitarguy on November 1, 2006 at 4:04 PM

This election can still go either way.

Sincerely, I’m beginning to think and worry about how a loss (or better – not a gain) of both branches would affect the Left and what reaction they might have. BDS has run its course. What would be next?

Entelechy on November 1, 2006 at 3:57 PM

Entelechy- How about the liberals not just threaten but actually move to Canada this time?

januarius on November 1, 2006 at 4:06 PM

“they’d prefer to watch a guy who gets off by sexually harassing his employees being brown-nosed on his own program.”
Constantine on November 1, 2006 at 3:43 PM

You crossed the line there, const…..
Don’t piss where you sleep.

shooter on November 1, 2006 at 4:09 PM

Hey Tony….where yah been bub?

Senator John Kerry most definitely has a plan.

Reporter: Plan?

Senator Kerry: Definitely!

Reporter: Genius!

Senator Kerry: Thank You!

The Ugly American on November 1, 2006 at 4:09 PM

It’s all about who gets the press. Rather disingenuous to claim pundits’ comments don’t matter as much (especially when the discussion is “political theater”) when so much page space is given to them here. You’re right, you can’t compare Rush’s comments to Kerry’s; Rush meant what he said, and it wasn’t an omission of a few words.

Constantine on November 1, 2006 at 4:02 PM

Constantine is still pouting because Rush did not defer to Michael J. Fox’s infallibility–and had the audacity to criticize him against liberals’ wishes. Yes, Constantine, Rush meant what he said: Fox is not above criticism and is wrong on the issues. And Kerry meant exactly what he said about his believing troops are uneducated and stupid. What is your point, exactly?

januarius on November 1, 2006 at 4:11 PM

Sincerely, I’m beginning to think and worry about how a loss (or better – not a gain) of both branches would affect the Left and what reaction they might have. BDS has run its course. What would be next?

Entelechy on November 1, 2006 at 3:57 PM

The expulsion of the far left ‘leadership’ that has repeatedly proved themselves feckless, impotent, and ineffective (not to mention openly traitorous).

The Democrats, (the sane ones get proper respect), have an excellent opportunity to take back their party which has been steadily spiraling toward a socialist/communist mindset.

C’mon Sane Democrats, do the patriotic thing and think about what’s best for your Country and kick the losers in your party out.

And we on the GOP side of things will do likewise. Believe me; we want some changes in our party as well. For the good of the country.

techno_barbarian on November 1, 2006 at 4:12 PM

Now for some great political theater what we need is another big fat gaffe from the neocon side.

Knock off the anti-semitism. It’s not well received here. Go hang out with your buddies at the National Alliance if you want to spew that crap.

I loved Tony Snow’s question to the reporter (sloppy paraphrasing)
Reporter: Why don’t you understand Kerry’s joke?
TS: The real question is why are you trying to explain it for him? I don’t need to explain it for him. He can explain it himself.

Tony Snow nailed the whole thing right there. The press reaction to circle the wagons around Kerry just illuminates their bias. Why aren’t they calling for his resignation?
The thing about taking the moral high-ground as Republicans is that we don’t really need to do much these days when there is apparently no morality among the elected Democrats.

NTWR on November 1, 2006 at 4:24 PM

It’s all about who gets the press. Rather disingenuous to claim pundits’ comments don’t matter as much (especially when the discussion is “political theater”) when so much page space is given to them here. You’re right, you can’t compare Rush’s comments to Kerry’s; Rush meant what he said, and it wasn’t an omission of a few words.

Constantine on November 1, 2006 at 4:02 PM

It would be excellent if Constantine was intellectually honest, but I suppose that’s too much to hope for.

Respect is earned, Constantine, and from what I’ve seen from you, you do not deserve respect. That’s my problem with the bulk of the democratic party, actually. Intellectual dishonesty seems to be the very core value of most democrats.

//callin’ ‘em like I see ‘em

techno_barbarian on November 1, 2006 at 4:25 PM

Tony Snow should be given a medal for keeping his patience and humor while dealing with these hacks. Calling them “press” or “journalists” is a gross misuse of those terms– they are, plain and simple, Democratic operatives looking to undo whatever damage Kerry did to himself and his party. And they’re not even doing a good job of that.

morganfrost on November 1, 2006 at 4:27 PM

The latest to do so? Hillary, who called them “inappropriate” earlier this morning

…let’s hope that the junior Senator from New York addresses the acts of the junior Senator from Massachusetts in more certain terms than she addressed the actions of her husband, upon whose coattails she’s achieved everything she now has.

…maybe if she married Kerry he’d amount to something….

Puritan1648 on November 1, 2006 at 4:31 PM

Knock off the anti-semitism. It’s not well received here. Go hang out with your buddies at the National Alliance if you want to spew that crap.

neo = new (not “Jew”)
con = conservative
Have you not heard the term before? It refers to those who call themselves conservatives but betray most of what conservatism stands for.

It would be excellent if Constantine was intellectually honest, but I suppose that’s too much to hope for.

Oh, do please explain.

Constantine on November 1, 2006 at 4:33 PM

Stop Now! You Goofy…..

Drtuddle on November 1, 2006 at 4:41 PM

David Gregory is a piece of garbage…a somewhat effeminate sounding piece of liberal trash.

benrand on November 1, 2006 at 4:43 PM

Oh, do please explain.

Constantine on November 1, 2006 at 4:33 PM

No explanation needed. Reading almost any of your posts reveals your lack of research and knowledge.

We need a better troll. Where’s honora?

techno_barbarian on November 1, 2006 at 5:08 PM

Yes, Constantine, I’ve heard the term repeatedly, from these guys.
Actually, this is the meaning:

Even by the neocon’s own standards — which essentially amount to whatever is good for Israel is good, whatever is bad for Israel is bad — the invasion and occupation of Iraq has not been an unqualified success. The Iraqi resistance continues as strong as ever. The credibility of the neocon war hawks, virtually all of them Jews, and their nonexistent WMD excuse for war, has plummeted to near zero among the educated and well-informed — though the yahoos still believe the lies in large numbers.

See, they’re your buddies. Just because you and the New York Times made up a definition of the term doesn’t mean the white supremacists and neonazis haven’t co-opted the same term to describe the new-conservatives’ friendliness towards Israel.

Be careful who you bed down with…

NTWR on November 1, 2006 at 5:17 PM

The credibility of the neocon war hawks, virtually all of them Jews,

Read your own reference. Just because these people– whoever they are– engage in race-baiting, it doesn’t redefine the term nor mean that anybody who uses it is racist…. sorry: “raaaaaacist.” Check the Wikipedia definition.

Constantine on November 1, 2006 at 5:27 PM

Yes, read your own reference, via Wikipedia.

Not everyone who uses the term is raaaacist, but the term can be construed, and has been for quite some time, as racist.

Just giving you a tip, it’s not the best term to use unless you want to sound like a paleoprog (paleoprogressive).

But, we’re completely off topic here…
Tony Snow is the best stuffed suit rightwing nutjob mouthpiece we could have!
There.

NTWR on November 1, 2006 at 5:38 PM

If only you were as outraged when a Republican does something stupid.

It pleases me no end that Olby’s intelligent, incisive commentary upsets the right so much that they’d prefer to watch a guy who gets off by sexually harassing his employees being brown-nosed on his own program.

Constantine on November 1, 2006 at 3:43 PM

How many Republicans have done anything remotely this stupid and are still serving? As to Olby, I guess the intelligent, incisive commentary is why his rating are so high. The man could reach his listeners more effiecently with a few phone calls.

conservativecaveman on November 1, 2006 at 8:08 PM

On the clip from the Imus show, he mentions another case where conventional wisdom failed him: there is no link between agent orange and cancer.

starflyer on November 1, 2006 at 8:11 PM

Senator Kerry said Bush’s comments were “a classic GOP textbook Republican campaign tactic”.

I wondered if this was true so I consulted the relevant textbook GOP Campaign Tactics for Republicans and to my surprise there it was, right on page 161:

“If Democrats slur and defame the military you should try to turn it into an opportunity for political gain.”

aengus on November 1, 2006 at 8:20 PM

How many Republicans have done anything remotely this stupid and are still serving?

Just off the top of my head: Ted Stevens’ spectacular display of ignorance regarding the internet (which he regulates), or his pork project “bridge to nowhere.”

Constantine on November 1, 2006 at 8:50 PM

Hey Connie…I agree the Bridge to Nowhere was stupid. How’s that? But somehow it’s not outrageously stupid, or entertainingly stupid. It’s just run-of-the-mill-congressman-wasting-our-money-as-usual stupid. A reality, yes. But interesting or shocking or funny, nope. And certainly not as entertaining and head-shakingly wonky as the shite John F’in Kerry gets up to all on his own.

Oh, by the way, Rush didn’t say anything insulting about Michael J. Fox… He repeated something that Fox, himself had admitted in the past. He goes off his meds when he’s going to do a speech on his disease…for effect. Rush said he wondered if it was acting, or if he was off his meds. And totally shocking..that he’d muse on whether Fox was acting, given he’s a…what’s the word again? Oh yeah, ACTOR.

tickleddragon on November 1, 2006 at 11:23 PM

Oh yeah, and I almost forgot…Tony Snow, you rock.

tickleddragon on November 1, 2006 at 11:25 PM

A lot are piling kudos onto Tony Snow for his performance but frankly a chimpanzee would have done well up there with the political football Kerry tossed in. It’s a no brainer.

Kerry sounded like a broken record on Imus. Poor Imus was begging from start to finish for Kerry to can it. Just what is Kerry’s obsession with Bush?

iNeXuS on November 2, 2006 at 5:14 AM

The “joke” Kerry is alleging, post-facto, to have prepared makes no sense. What he was going to say was, if you don’t do well as a student, then you end up President of the United States? How is that a bad outcome for the person in question, even if others think them to be “dumb”?

RD on November 2, 2006 at 9:50 AM

Well…Sen Kerry, if you assume that the White House knows what you meant to say, why don’t you start by giving them the same benefit of the doubt?

It’s humorous that the Senator uses his own manufactured truths to insult a President that he assaults on a daily basis.

We are so wickedly partisan.

budorob on November 2, 2006 at 11:22 AM

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