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		<title>By: b8261bb79a86</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 00:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Video: Hillary jokes about &#8220;evil and bad men&#8221; like Osama and Republicans; Update: Or Bill?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Video: Hillary jokes about &#8220;evil and bad men&#8221; like Osama and Republicans; Update: Or Bill?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 04:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Update: Early voting is skewing heavily in favor of the Clenis. Well, I disagreed with most righties about what Kerry meant; no surprise to find I&#8217;m out of step again. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Update: Early voting is skewing heavily in favor of the Clenis. Well, I disagreed with most righties about what Kerry meant; no surprise to find I&#8217;m out of step again. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: People Pundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>People Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Video: Kerry’s speech at the Angelides event uncut(?)...&lt;/strong&gt;

John Kerry said on national television that if you don&#8217;t goto school and get an education, you&#8217;ll end up in Iraq. “You know, education&#8230;if you make the most of it&#8230;if you study hard and you do your homework and you make an effor...</description>
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<p>John Kerry said on national television that if you don&#8217;t goto school and get an education, you&#8217;ll end up in Iraq. “You know, education&#8230;if you make the most of it&#8230;if you study hard and you do your homework and you make an effor&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anwyn&#8217;s Notes in the Margin &#187; Bits and Ballots</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/01/video-kerrys-speech-at-the-angelides-event-uncut/comment-page-2/#comment-96538</link>
		<dc:creator>Anwyn&#8217;s Notes in the Margin &#187; Bits and Ballots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 4) Speaking of dumb, Kerry just can&#8217;t help shooting off his shark-like mouth at the worst possible time for his peeps. I mostly, reluctantly, agree with Mr. Lileks that there is some sense in the &#8220;I meant Bush&#8221; interpretation, mainly because I find it hard to believe anybody savvy enough to get elected as senator could be that stupid and also because it&#8217;s always been obvious how much John Kerry hates GeoBush on a personal level, but then, look who else they elect as senators in Massachusetts. Karol collected a pretty convincing counter-argument to Lileks, but here&#8217;s the thing: if Kerry weren&#8217;t such a malevolent jackass all the way around, maybe it would actually matter which one he meant. It doesn&#8217;t. He hurt his own party more than anybody else, and there&#8217;s much too much &#8220;I meant this&#8211;I was misunderstood&#8221; going around lately. If you don&#8217;t want to be so grievously misunderstood, you should shut your big yap until you have some understanding of the most effective way to make your point. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 4) Speaking of dumb, Kerry just can&#8217;t help shooting off his shark-like mouth at the worst possible time for his peeps. I mostly, reluctantly, agree with Mr. Lileks that there is some sense in the &#8220;I meant Bush&#8221; interpretation, mainly because I find it hard to believe anybody savvy enough to get elected as senator could be that stupid and also because it&#8217;s always been obvious how much John Kerry hates GeoBush on a personal level, but then, look who else they elect as senators in Massachusetts. Karol collected a pretty convincing counter-argument to Lileks, but here&#8217;s the thing: if Kerry weren&#8217;t such a malevolent jackass all the way around, maybe it would actually matter which one he meant. It doesn&#8217;t. He hurt his own party more than anybody else, and there&#8217;s much too much &#8220;I meant this&#8211;I was misunderstood&#8221; going around lately. If you don&#8217;t want to be so grievously misunderstood, you should shut your big yap until you have some understanding of the most effective way to make your point. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Wide Awake Cafe &#187; True Grit</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/01/video-kerrys-speech-at-the-angelides-event-uncut/comment-page-2/#comment-91871</link>
		<dc:creator>The Wide Awake Cafe &#187; True Grit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] John Kerry may have his gang of media pundits and fellow Democrats who are bending over backwards in order to explain his slur of the United States Military but most of America sees past their smokescreen and knows the horrid little man they are trying to prop up is the Democrat jerk of elections past. He&#8217;s the same anti-American, anti-military, socialist bore he was back in the Vietnam Era. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] John Kerry may have his gang of media pundits and fellow Democrats who are bending over backwards in order to explain his slur of the United States Military but most of America sees past their smokescreen and knows the horrid little man they are trying to prop up is the Democrat jerk of elections past. He&#8217;s the same anti-American, anti-military, socialist bore he was back in the Vietnam Era. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 11:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, Lileks said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;That smacks of fake-but-accurate.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Which, let us note, &lt;em&gt;smacks of fake-but-accurate&lt;/em&gt;
is less potent than &lt;em&gt;Is fake-but-accurate.&lt;/em&gt;  

Also note AP omitted:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ll probably talk about this on the Hewitt show tomorrow, &lt;strong&gt;and get my arse handed to me&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That &lt;em&gt;smacks of&lt;/em&gt; is weak to begin with and then Lileks thinks the position he holds is may be untenable.

That&#039;s a mighty wobbly crutch you&#039;ve leaned on at least twice AP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, Lileks said:</p>
<blockquote><p>That smacks of fake-but-accurate.</p></blockquote>
<p> Which, let us note, <em>smacks of fake-but-accurate</em><br />
is less potent than <em>Is fake-but-accurate.</em>  </p>
<p>Also note AP omitted:</p>
<blockquote><p>I’ll probably talk about this on the Hewitt show tomorrow, <strong>and get my arse handed to me</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>That <em>smacks of</em> is weak to begin with and then Lileks thinks the position he holds is may be untenable.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a mighty wobbly crutch you&#8217;ve leaned on at least twice AP.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncut Kerry Speach &#171; Something should go here, maybe later.</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/01/video-kerrys-speech-at-the-angelides-event-uncut/comment-page-2/#comment-91382</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncut Kerry Speach &#171; Something should go here, maybe later.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 04:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hot Air has the uncut Kerry speach.  His gaffe is right at the start, meaning he could easily have corrected it if he had made a mistake, and no one would have paid any attention. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/01/video-kerrys-speech-at-the-angelides-event-uncut/comment-page-2/#comment-91296</link>
		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 03:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To AP, Mark and others convinced the gaffe must have been a Freudian slip due to argumentative (not empirical) reasons, such as &quot;he wouldn&#039;t have been that stupid&quot;, you make an excellent point.  But that still leaves the following questions open:

1. What was the Freudian slip, exactly?  (I doubt his joke began, &quot;Two Germans walked into a bar...&quot;)

2. What was his original &quot;joke&quot;?  Amd in what way &lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; it a joke?  (In what way was it even a &lt;i&gt;non&lt;/i&gt;-joke?)

A Freudian slip has to make some kind of sense; this doesn&#039;t.  (Or?)

[januarius]
&lt;blockquote&gt;Notice that all the liberals on this site agree again vehemently with AP. I wonder why.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Most of them anyway :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To AP, Mark and others convinced the gaffe must have been a Freudian slip due to argumentative (not empirical) reasons, such as &#8220;he wouldn&#8217;t have been that stupid&#8221;, you make an excellent point.  But that still leaves the following questions open:</p>
<p>1. What was the Freudian slip, exactly?  (I doubt his joke began, &#8220;Two Germans walked into a bar&#8230;&#8221;)</p>
<p>2. What was his original &#8220;joke&#8221;?  Amd in what way <i>was</i> it a joke?  (In what way was it even a <i>non</i>-joke?)</p>
<p>A Freudian slip has to make some kind of sense; this doesn&#8217;t.  (Or?)</p>
<p>[januarius]</p>
<blockquote><p>Notice that all the liberals on this site agree again vehemently with AP. I wonder why.</p></blockquote>
<p>Most of them anyway :-)</p>
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		<title>By: House of Eratosthenes</title>
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		<dc:creator>House of Eratosthenes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 02:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Via Hot Air, the complete 15-minute speech by John &#8220;Fozzie Bear&#8221; Kerry, stumping for Phil Angelides, during which he made his notorious remark at the expense of&#8230;President Bush? Troops in Iraq? It&#8217;s a matter of disagreement. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Via Hot Air, the complete 15-minute speech by John &#8220;Fozzie Bear&#8221; Kerry, stumping for Phil Angelides, during which he made his notorious remark at the expense of&#8230;President Bush? Troops in Iraq? It&#8217;s a matter of disagreement. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blogwars: Me vs. Ace on Kerrygate</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/01/video-kerrys-speech-at-the-angelides-event-uncut/comment-page-2/#comment-90993</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blogwars: Me vs. Ace on Kerrygate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 00:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Just kidding. I thought Ace&#8217;s response deserved a link after I accused him of being in &#8220;nutroots territory&#8221; last night, which was in turn a response to him implying that I was &#8220;crazy&#8221; for thinking Kerry&#8217;s remark might have been aimed at Bush and not the military. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Just kidding. I thought Ace&#8217;s response deserved a link after I accused him of being in &#8220;nutroots territory&#8221; last night, which was in turn a response to him implying that I was &#8220;crazy&#8221; for thinking Kerry&#8217;s remark might have been aimed at Bush and not the military. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Drtuddle</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/01/video-kerrys-speech-at-the-angelides-event-uncut/comment-page-1/#comment-90897</link>
		<dc:creator>Drtuddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 22:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think he is obsessed with Bush. If he would have said &quot;you get in a quagmire in Iraq&quot;, it would have been more obvious that it was about Bush.  But I am going with it was intended for Bush but the Freudian slip flew out because that is how he really thinks about the troops(In Vietnam and Now).  I am also predicting a SNL Skit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he is obsessed with Bush. If he would have said &#8220;you get in a quagmire in Iraq&#8221;, it would have been more obvious that it was about Bush.  But I am going with it was intended for Bush but the Freudian slip flew out because that is how he really thinks about the troops(In Vietnam and Now).  I am also predicting a SNL Skit.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen M</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/01/video-kerrys-speech-at-the-angelides-event-uncut/comment-page-1/#comment-90888</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 22:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AP
&lt;blockquote&gt;The best evidence we have of what he meant is the context. The context had to do with Bush.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yes and no.
If context is only
&lt;em&gt;The language that precedes and follows a series of words, such as a particular sentence or clause.&lt;/em&gt;
Then YES. That definition is straight out of Answer.com&#039;s  Legal Encyclopedia.
There&#039;s more to life than legalism, thank god. 

Webster defines context in another way - &lt;em&gt;the interrelated conditions in which something exists or occurs.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Kerry’s long, long history of denigrating soldiers&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; the context - &lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;the interrelated conditions in which something exists or occurs.

Had Kerry&#039;s words been uttered by any other politician there would be no brouhaha.
Had those words been uttered by any other politician then the legalistic definition - &lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;The language that precedes and follows a series of words, such as a particular sentence or clause.&lt;/em&gt; would widely have taken primacy. No brouhaha.

But they &lt;em&gt;were&lt;/em&gt; uttered by Kerry. People taking &lt;em&gt;who&lt;/em&gt; says a thing into account are not nutrooters.
They are contextualizing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AP</p>
<blockquote><p>The best evidence we have of what he meant is the context. The context had to do with Bush.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes and no.<br />
If context is only<br />
<em>The language that precedes and follows a series of words, such as a particular sentence or clause.</em><br />
Then YES. That definition is straight out of Answer.com&#8217;s  Legal Encyclopedia.<br />
There&#8217;s more to life than legalism, thank god. </p>
<p>Webster defines context in another way &#8211; <em>the interrelated conditions in which something exists or occurs.</p>
<blockquote><p>Kerry’s long, long history of denigrating soldiers</p></blockquote>
<p> <strong><em>is</em></strong> the context &#8211; </em><em>the interrelated conditions in which something exists or occurs.</p>
<p>Had Kerry&#8217;s words been uttered by any other politician there would be no brouhaha.<br />
Had those words been uttered by any other politician then the legalistic definition &#8211; </em><em>The language that precedes and follows a series of words, such as a particular sentence or clause.</em> would widely have taken primacy. No brouhaha.</p>
<p>But they <em>were</em> uttered by Kerry. People taking <em>who</em> says a thing into account are not nutrooters.<br />
They are contextualizing.</p>
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		<title>By: Spurius Ligustinus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spurius Ligustinus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;My personal opinion is that it was a Freudian slip on Kerry’s part. 

He attempted to insult President Bush but his lips moved faster then his brain and he said what he really thought not what he was supposed to say.&quot;

F15Mech on November 1, 2006 at 10:31 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Bingo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;My personal opinion is that it was a Freudian slip on Kerry’s part. </p>
<p>He attempted to insult President Bush but his lips moved faster then his brain and he said what he really thought not what he was supposed to say.&#8221;</p>
<p>F15Mech on November 1, 2006 at 10:31 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Bingo.</p>
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		<title>By: spmat</title>
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		<dc:creator>spmat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t bloody well matter whether it was a botched joke or an assertive statement. His reaction to criticism because of it is proof enough that he has no real regard for the armed forces of the United States of America. Anyone who did would have either 

A) immediately realized the gaff and shoehorned in a pro-military &quot;they&#039;re a fine group of boys dying for an immoral war&quot; or 

B) made it a point on first criticism to apologize directly to the troops, even if he were to use it as an oportunity to bash Bush.

John Kerry has an extensively documented history of contempt for the armed forces. That he would say such a thing as either a statement of fact or as a Freudian slip is no surprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t bloody well matter whether it was a botched joke or an assertive statement. His reaction to criticism because of it is proof enough that he has no real regard for the armed forces of the United States of America. Anyone who did would have either </p>
<p>A) immediately realized the gaff and shoehorned in a pro-military &#8220;they&#8217;re a fine group of boys dying for an immoral war&#8221; or </p>
<p>B) made it a point on first criticism to apologize directly to the troops, even if he were to use it as an oportunity to bash Bush.</p>
<p>John Kerry has an extensively documented history of contempt for the armed forces. That he would say such a thing as either a statement of fact or as a Freudian slip is no surprise.</p>
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		<title>By: Ace of Spades HQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ace of Spades HQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Allah: Ace Goes &quot;Nutroots&quot;...&lt;/strong&gt;

He claims I called him &quot;crazy,&quot; and then says I&#039;m in &quot;nutroots territory&quot; in my refusal to give any gloss to Kerry&#039;s words besides, you know, the words themselves. Except I didn&#039;t call him &quot;crazy.&quot; I merely quoted him disputing......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Allah: Ace Goes &#8220;Nutroots&#8221;&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>He claims I called him &#8220;crazy,&#8221; and then says I&#8217;m in &#8220;nutroots territory&#8221; in my refusal to give any gloss to Kerry&#8217;s words besides, you know, the words themselves. Except I didn&#8217;t call him &#8220;crazy.&#8221; I merely quoted him disputing&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernGent</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthernGent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The photo of the soldiers holding the banner is hilarious but not one msm has published it. Why?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Because they are sure their intellectually superior audience won&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The photo of the soldiers holding the banner is hilarious but not one msm has published it. Why?
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<p>Because they are sure their intellectually superior audience won&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: jummy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jummy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TheBigOldDog, 

that is exactly where people are getting tripped up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TheBigOldDog, </p>
<p>that is exactly where people are getting tripped up.</p>
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		<title>By: bones47</title>
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		<dc:creator>bones47</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>messed up on the strike.........lol sorry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>messed up on the strike&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;lol sorry</p>
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		<title>By: bones47</title>
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		<dc:creator>bones47</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;I WILL not&lt;/strong&gt; apologize to no man. LOL yes tereza................LOL That will do it to those no good repub&#039;s. They have to know all I am saying is&quot; Give peace&lt;strike&gt;ME a chance .........LOL yeah right Flipper !!!&lt;/strike&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>I WILL not</strong> apologize to no man. LOL yes tereza&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.LOL That will do it to those no good repub&#8217;s. They have to know all I am saying is&#8221; Give peace<strike>ME a chance &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;LOL yeah right Flipper !!!</strike></p>
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		<title>By: Fargus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fargus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 17:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh stop it John! You&#039;re killing me here! Oh ho ho ha ha....

FrankenKerry must be using a portion of the &quot;Heinz Trust Fund&quot;--as allowed under the Trust for &quot;educational purposes&quot;--for comedy classes &lt;em&gt;&#039;CAUSE HE IS JUST TEARING UP THE FREAKIN&#039; ROOM!&lt;/em&gt;

numbnut....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh stop it John! You&#8217;re killing me here! Oh ho ho ha ha&#8230;.</p>
<p>FrankenKerry must be using a portion of the &#8220;Heinz Trust Fund&#8221;&#8211;as allowed under the Trust for &#8220;educational purposes&#8221;&#8211;for comedy classes <em>&#8216;CAUSE HE IS JUST TEARING UP THE FREAKIN&#8217; ROOM!</em></p>
<p>numbnut&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anil Petra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anil Petra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a frequent speech-giver, who often works from a single script to present to various audiences - and making deviations suited to each crowd - it&#039;s clear to me what happened here.

Kerry thought it was appropriate to tailor a comment about education and military service to the crowd in front of him.

It may not have been well considered, but it was almost certainly intended, what he said the way he said it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a frequent speech-giver, who often works from a single script to present to various audiences &#8211; and making deviations suited to each crowd &#8211; it&#8217;s clear to me what happened here.</p>
<p>Kerry thought it was appropriate to tailor a comment about education and military service to the crowd in front of him.</p>
<p>It may not have been well considered, but it was almost certainly intended, what he said the way he said it.</p>
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		<title>By: fogw</title>
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		<dc:creator>fogw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;During a Vietnam-era run for Congress three decades ago, John Kerry said he opposed a volunteer Army because it would be dominated by the underprivileged, be less accountable and be more prone to &quot;the perpetuation of war crimes.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Now did he apologize for that one too, or did he say he was sorry if the underprivileged lacked the comprehension skills to understand his pretentious point of view?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;During a Vietnam-era run for Congress three decades ago, John Kerry said he opposed a volunteer Army because it would be dominated by the underprivileged, be less accountable and be more prone to &#8220;the perpetuation of war crimes.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Now did he apologize for that one too, or did he say he was sorry if the underprivileged lacked the comprehension skills to understand his pretentious point of view?</p>
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		<title>By: thirteen28</title>
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		<dc:creator>thirteen28</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and here&#039;s another &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061102/ap_on_el_ge/kerry1972_army_2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;article&lt;/a&gt; that illuminates Kerry&#039;s opinion of the troops, by the Associated (w/t) Press, no less. Money shot in the first paragraph:

&lt;blockquote&gt;WASHINGTON - During a Vietnam-era run for Congress three decades ago, &lt;strong&gt;John Kerry said he opposed a volunteer Army because it would be dominated by the underprivileged, be less accountable and be more prone to &quot;the perpetuation of war crimes&lt;/strong&gt;.&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and here&#8217;s another <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061102/ap_on_el_ge/kerry1972_army_2" rel="nofollow">article</a> that illuminates Kerry&#8217;s opinion of the troops, by the Associated (w/t) Press, no less. Money shot in the first paragraph:</p>
<blockquote><p>WASHINGTON &#8211; During a Vietnam-era run for Congress three decades ago, <strong>John Kerry said he opposed a volunteer Army because it would be dominated by the underprivileged, be less accountable and be more prone to &#8220;the perpetuation of war crimes</strong>.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: thirteen28</title>
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		<dc:creator>thirteen28</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You have to let go of the idea that this was an intentional slam at the troops. It wasn’t intended as an insult. He didn’t even realize it was an insult. It’s an old admonition like, “eat your vegetables so you’ll grow up to be big and strong.” That admonition is so ingrained into Liberal thought that they have forgotten there is another side to it which is an insult to the people serving. 

TheBigOldDog on November 2, 2006 at 8:36 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Absolutely.  Given Kerry&#039;s past statements, it&#039;s clear that he has a pretty serious disdain for the troops (excluding those that later become part of the anti-war movement), and we know he has a political tin ear.  Couple deeply ingrained disdain for the troops and a political tin ear, and it&#039;s easy to see how he could have made an insulting statement without intending to or even believing that it could be taken that way.  

It&#039;s no different than some socially clueless dolt going oup to Rosie O&#039;Donnell and saying &quot;you don&#039;t sweat much for a big girl, do you?&quot;  There may be no intent to insult, but the statement would be offensive (to Rosie anyway) nonetheless.

As far as this idea:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Once you’ve made that move — they believe X, and if they say they don’t believe it, they’re lying — you’re in nutroots territory.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

... I say BS.

While not all democrats disrespect the troops, there are a number of prominent ones (e.g., Durbin, Kerry, Murtha, BigTits Kennedy) that have made extremely disrespectful statements in the past year, accusing them of war crimes, likening them to Nazis, accusing them of running a concentration camp at Abu Graihb, and so on.  Your attempt to shame us out of this idea by equating us with nutroots for even having it, despite the writing that is clearly on the wall, is garbage.

Who are we going to believe - AllahPundit or our own, lying eyes?

Right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You have to let go of the idea that this was an intentional slam at the troops. It wasn’t intended as an insult. He didn’t even realize it was an insult. It’s an old admonition like, “eat your vegetables so you’ll grow up to be big and strong.” That admonition is so ingrained into Liberal thought that they have forgotten there is another side to it which is an insult to the people serving. </p>
<p>TheBigOldDog on November 2, 2006 at 8:36 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Absolutely.  Given Kerry&#8217;s past statements, it&#8217;s clear that he has a pretty serious disdain for the troops (excluding those that later become part of the anti-war movement), and we know he has a political tin ear.  Couple deeply ingrained disdain for the troops and a political tin ear, and it&#8217;s easy to see how he could have made an insulting statement without intending to or even believing that it could be taken that way.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s no different than some socially clueless dolt going oup to Rosie O&#8217;Donnell and saying &#8220;you don&#8217;t sweat much for a big girl, do you?&#8221;  There may be no intent to insult, but the statement would be offensive (to Rosie anyway) nonetheless.</p>
<p>As far as this idea:</p>
<blockquote><p>Once you’ve made that move — they believe X, and if they say they don’t believe it, they’re lying — you’re in nutroots territory.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230; I say BS.</p>
<p>While not all democrats disrespect the troops, there are a number of prominent ones (e.g., Durbin, Kerry, Murtha, BigTits Kennedy) that have made extremely disrespectful statements in the past year, accusing them of war crimes, likening them to Nazis, accusing them of running a concentration camp at Abu Graihb, and so on.  Your attempt to shame us out of this idea by equating us with nutroots for even having it, despite the writing that is clearly on the wall, is garbage.</p>
<p>Who are we going to believe &#8211; AllahPundit or our own, lying eyes?</p>
<p>Right.</p>
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		<title>By: januarius</title>
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		<dc:creator>januarius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I was a little rude towards AllahPundit on my last post.  He surely is taking the other side on the issue, solely to have comments that counter the liberal position, i.e. to make an interesting thread.  However, if this article doesn&#039;t convince him that Kerry was sincere about his comments, then I think AP is hopeless:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061102/D8L4QH580.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I was a little rude towards AllahPundit on my last post.  He surely is taking the other side on the issue, solely to have comments that counter the liberal position, i.e. to make an interesting thread.  However, if this article doesn&#8217;t convince him that Kerry was sincere about his comments, then I think AP is hopeless:</p>
<p><a href="http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061102/D8L4QH580.html" rel="nofollow">http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061102/D8L4QH580.html</a></p>
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