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Video: Civil war erupts on the View

posted at 3:52 pm on November 1, 2006 by Allahpundit
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The best show on television, bar none.

…Torn apart by an unpopular war.

A war known as … Kerrygate.

We have to get Hasselbeck to do a guest shot on Vent.


Update: Note to Joy Behar: Rumsfeld served in the Navy for three years.

Update: Katie Couric would fit right in.

Update: Seixon fact-checks the View.


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Hey Allah, I just emailed Elisabeth and mentioned that you guys (and us of course) would love to have her on the Vent. Maybe she’ll come snooping through here and see how much she’d fit in :)

LordNazh on November 1, 2006 at 9:51 PM

‘Free Elizabeth, Nuke the Whales Gay Whales.’

Fixed.

HerrMorgenholz on November 1, 2006 at 10:40 PM

Her last line was priceless

You can vote to fight the war on terror or fight Republicans

Priceless

EricPWJohnson on November 1, 2006 at 11:29 PM

Is Barbara just a stage prop?

Entelechy on November 2, 2006 at 2:12 AM

thats really bawbwa on there? thought it was just a dummy…

well, nevermind

LordNazh on November 2, 2006 at 2:28 AM

Everything – EVERYTHING that is wrong with ‘political reportage’ is condensed into this clip.

* Badly informed statements delivered with no room for debate
* A belief that you are either ‘right’ or ‘wrong’
* A belief that the only context is ‘left’ or ‘right’
* Zero analysis
* Serious issues lost in the mist of entertainment and ratings revenue
* Trivialising issues by using them in a ‘competition of words’
* Using this clip to further generate all of the above on a website.

This approach to ‘political life’ is going nowhere. School yard arguments, point scoring, calling people names and doing it all for an audience – because you want to make some cash… And the serious issues slide past, and the analysis is left untouched; the true motives for peoples behaviour, companies behaviour, governments behaviour – all of it undiscussed – because that is just too much to ask of an audience.

When the spoon feeding that shows like the View, and websites like this, and news channels like Fox, and all the various different media outlets stops… then maybe we can all start thinking about our future and the issues that involve us, instead of mindlessly braying in agreement, or bleating with unthinking disagreement.

eminuu on November 2, 2006 at 3:31 AM

Several points here:

Joy Behar’s ignorance (and that of Rosie) and her vitriol against Bush and Republicans is literally breath-taking. She clearly has zero knowledge of the subject and is incapable of thinking critically.

The F-102 was also known as the widow maker, for the reasons enunciated above. Any flyer who mastered it, exhibited great skill and cannot possibly be called a “draft dodger.” And as noted, Lt. Bush stood strip alert, on guard against Soviet Bombers while on active duty, participated in running training intercepts against US bombers, and volunteered to go to Vietnam — but was turned down.

I would like to see Elizabeth Hasselbeck on Hot Air if her contract with ABC will allow her to. AP, Michell, please see if you can arrange it.

georgej on November 2, 2006 at 4:09 AM

I was going to email Rosie to point out her factual errors, but there is no email link on their website like there is for Elisabeth. I suppose she doesn’t want to have to read a dose of the backlash that would certainly occur everytime she opens her mouth.

aelhues on November 2, 2006 at 9:51 AM

What goes as political discourse in the NYT area. Shameful.

tormod on November 2, 2006 at 10:45 AM

I don’t know how she did it, but Elizabeth just turned the lights out on that party!

The audience confuses me, though. They applaud for every anti-war, anti-Republican, anti-Bush comment, but they also applaud Elizabeth when she said how glad she was that Kerry lost the election.

Overall, the show is awful. While Americans are getting tired of the Crossfire genre, these ladies are trying to reinvent the wheel.

budorob on November 2, 2006 at 11:00 AM

I’m getting the impression The View has a liberal slant….

I also found out while watching this clip that I am also stupid, according to the red headed Babs wanna-be, for supporting the war.

It’s soooooooo refreshing to observe smart people that are soooooooo open minded as it pertains to opposing view points that may challenge [their] own.

The show really should be called “Our View” or “Only One View” or “The Liberal Blame America First View”.

Fargus on November 2, 2006 at 12:30 PM

Change the name to the “Pew”. They all look like they could use a good hosing, with the exception of Elizabeth.

bloggless on November 2, 2006 at 12:36 PM

Rosie needs this info!

Eye of the Beholder
by Victor Davis Hanson
The American Enterprise Online

War-torn Iraq has about 26 million residents, a peaceful California perhaps now 35 million. The former is a violent and impoverished landscape, the latter said to be paradise on Earth. But how you envision either place to some degree depends on the eye of the beholder and is predicated on what the daily media appear to make of each.
As a fifth-generation Californian, I deeply love this state, but still imagine what the reaction would be if the world awoke each morning to be told that once again there were six more murders, 27 rapes, 38 arsons, 180 robberies, and 360 instances of assault in California — yesterday, today, tomorrow, and every day. I wonder if the headlines would scream about “Nearly 200 poor Californians butchered again this month!”
How about a monthly media dose of “600 women raped in February alone!” Or try, “Over 600 violent robberies and assaults in March, with no end in sight!” Those do not even make up all of the state’s yearly 200,000 violent acts that law enforcement knows about.
Iraq’s judicial system seems a mess. On the eve of the war, Saddam let out 100,000 inmates from his vast prison archipelago. He himself still sits in the dock months after his trial began. But imagine an Iraq with a penal system like California’s with 170,000 criminals — an inmate population larger than those of Germany, France, the Netherlands, and Singapore combined.
Just to house such a shadow population costs our state nearly $7 billion a year — or about the same price of keeping 40,000 Army personnel per year in Iraq. What would be the image of our Golden State if we were reminded each morning, “Another $20 million spent today on housing our criminals”?
Some of California’s most recent prison scandals would be easy to sensationalize: “Guards watch as inmates are raped!” Or “Correction officer accused of having sex with underaged detainee!” And apropos of Saddam’s sluggish trial, remember that our home state multiple murderer, Tookie Williams, was finally executed in December 2005 — 26 years after he was originally sentenced.
Much is made of the inability to patrol Iraq’s borders with Iran, Jordan, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Turkey. But California has only a single border with a foreign nation, not six. Yet over 3 million foreigners who snuck in illegally now live in our state. Worse, there are about 15,000 convicted alien felons incarcerated in our penal system, costing about $500 million a year. Imagine the potential tabloid headlines: “Illegal aliens in state comprise population larger than San Francisco!” or “Drugs, criminals, and smugglers given free pass into California!”
Every year, over 4,000 Californians die in car crashes — nearly twice the number of Americans lost so far in three years of combat operations in Iraq. In some sense, then, our badly maintained roads, and often poorly trained and sometimes intoxicated drivers, are even more lethal than Improvised Explosive Devices. Perhaps tomorrow’s headline might scream out at us: “300 Californians to perish this month on state highways! Hundreds more will be maimed and crippled!”
In 2001, California had 32 days of power outages, despite paying nearly the highest rates for electricity in the United States. Before complaining about the smoke in Baghdad rising from private generators, think back to the run on generators in California when they were contemplated as a future part of every household’s line of defense.
We’re told that Iraq’s finances are a mess. Yet until recently, so were California’s. Two years ago, Governor Schwarzenegger inherited a $38 billion annual budget shortfall. That could have made for strong morning newscast teasers: “Another $100 million borrowed today — $3 billion more in red ink to pile up by month’s end!”
So is California comparable to Iraq? Hardly. Yet it could easily be sketched by a reporter intent on doing so as a bank rupt, crime-ridden den with murderous highways, tens of thousands of inmates, with wide-open borders.
I myself recently returned home to California, without incident, from a visit to Iraq’s notorious Sunni Triangle. While I was gone, a drug-addicted criminal with a long list of convictions broke into our kitchen at 4 a.m., was surprised by my wife and daughter, and fled with our credit cards, cash, keys, and cell phones.
Sometimes I wonder who really was safer that week.
©2006 Victor Davis Hanson

Gooch on November 2, 2006 at 12:50 PM

Slublog,

Heh.

Allah watches “The View.”

*snicker*

Know thy enemy.

Yakko77 on November 2, 2006 at 1:15 PM

Poor Elizabeth…she has to sit with Patty, Selma, and Skinner’s mother every day! Poor, poor thing.

I still wonder if she regrets leaving “The Look For Less” show on the Style network?

Invite her to the Vent, by all means, she needs a breather!

kiakjones on November 2, 2006 at 1:17 PM

As usual, the one that’s hot, is the one that’s conservative.

JackM on November 2, 2006 at 1:24 PM

As usual, the one that’s hot, is the one that’s conservative.

I think Rosie and Joy would both look absolutely stunning in a burqua.

irishsquid on November 2, 2006 at 1:54 PM

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