Video: McCain calls for Kerry to apologize on Hannity & Colmes; Update: Kerry’s blog points to support — from Kos

posted at 10:30 pm on October 31, 2006 by Allahpundit

I’ve got two more clips coming as updates, one of Mort Kondracke and Michael Barone from Brit Hume’s show tonight and the other of our favorite Democrat from John Gibson’s radio program. They should be posted below within the next hour, so check back. Here’s the big one, though: a subdued, statesmanlike John McCain parrying Alan Colmes’s feeble attempts to change the subject for three minutes — then bringing up Waffles’s ineffably disgraceful Winter Soldier testimony in the last thirty seconds. Sweet.

Incidentally, how come we never, ever get to see “crazy McCain” in public? Wouldn’t this have been the perfect time?

The clip has been edited. Like I say, more coming.

Update: Tomorrow’s events cancelled? Has Kerry gone to ground?

Update: The first lifeboat hits the water: Iowa Congressional candidate Bruce Braley has kancelled Kerry due to his “inappropriate” comments on the war.

Update: Here are Kondracke and Barone on “Special Report.” Chris Matthews thinks it’s obvious Waffles was talking about Bush, not the troops; of course, Matthews also thinks it’s obvious that Michael Steele is trying to appear “child-like” and “unthreatening” in his TV ads. Kondracke and Barone disagree, the latter nailing down the problem here with what he says at the very end of the clip.

Update: The Times continues its electioneering by burying the lede.

Update: Here’s the audio clip I promised you. From this afternoon’s episode of John Gibson Radio, the lovely KP piles on. JPod’s got her pegged, although she’d never admit it. Not publicly, at least.

Did she actually use the word “impactful”?

Update: Scott Ott salutes the greatest man of the age.

Update: The left-wing backlash against St. John of Tucson begins.

Update: “When you lose the BBC and Andrew Sullivan, you’ve lost them all.”

Update: Who do you turn to when you’re being slammed for smearing the troops? Markos “Screw Them” Zuniga, of course.


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When McCain’s on, he’s on. It’s good to know that he’ll play hardball in the week before elections to help the team, even if he won’t do it again for 2 years.

DaveS on October 31, 2006 at 10:41 PM

Just as McCain mentioned the speech in the 60s, there is another one more recently where he says similar things about our people in Iraq.

StuLongIsland on October 31, 2006 at 10:46 PM

Has Kerry gone to ground?

Much like speaker-wannabe Pelosi, I’m sure we’ll soon issue an Amber Alert for Kerry as well since, he too, will go into hiding. Whether this was a sorry attempt at humor or not, Senator McCain is right: Kerry should apologize if only for the fact his comments were hurtful to our military. Kerry, this “decorated soldier”, having much experience at throwing insults upon those who serve, is not sorry for his comments and has now publicly stated he will not apologize. Good for Senator McCain! Keep the heat on Lurch. If he disappears – even for a short time – we will all benefit from his absence.

thedecider on October 31, 2006 at 10:49 PM

McCain seemed extremely subdued, almost lethargic. It was quite a contrast to the over-the-top, phony, fake-angry Kerry.

SouthernGent on October 31, 2006 at 10:49 PM

you can still see the Kool-Aid on Colmes’ lips.

stevezilla on October 31, 2006 at 10:53 PM

“Why can’t Republicans let that pass…?”

Oh come on Alan, I thought you were smarter than that. I guess not.

infidel4life on October 31, 2006 at 10:57 PM

Oh come on guys and gals…it’s not his ( Kerry’s ) fault. He just botched a joke. Plus us right wing nut jobs are attacking him, while he’s just firing back….
phhht

lsutiger on October 31, 2006 at 11:02 PM

Colmes and the lefty woman, cant remember her name, were beside themselves trying to defend Kerry. Colmes was so awkwardly animated “THATS NOT WHAT HE SAID, NOT WHAT HE MEANT”. How many times have I heard colmes say ‘how can you know what so and so was thinking , you’re not in his/her head? Hypocrite.
And the woman, she did it, she blamed Kerry’s comment’s on Bush. Not just saying he meant Bush, but BLAMING Kerry’s comments ON BUSH. They did it again, amazing.
Kerry lied, but this is starting to bother me just as much.
His NO apology statement :“If anyone thinks a veteran would criticize the more than 140,000 heroes serving in Iraq and not the president who got us stuck there, they’re crazy.”

HE ALREADY DID! saying our soldiers were terrorizing the Iraqi children. Lies lies and lies, then deceive and lie some more.

shooter on October 31, 2006 at 11:07 PM

I love the way mccain lays it down without being mangled in an attempt to veil the facts. If it was a joke, it means that he can’t even express himself. He need an Education. period.

Ouabam on October 31, 2006 at 11:08 PM

I agree, McCain seem tired, almost subdued to me when I watched the show live. But he still had enough in the tank to get the job done against a halfwit like Colmes. Well done, Senator.

ReubenJCogburn on October 31, 2006 at 11:08 PM

The problem in my opinion is this (each point builds to the larger point).

– We have a man in Kerry who has been lauded by the left as a magnificent orator and a bastion of intellect, and who has a history of saying things that are either overtly or possibly disparaging to our armed forces.

– While attempting to ridicule the President’s intellect–playing on 6 years worth of “Bush is stupid because he misspeaks” leftist-porn, Kerry himself misspeaks in a way that appears to insult our armed forces.

– Kerry then has the nerve to attack his critics (in a viscious and immature way), claiming, ironically, that he simply misspoke, and meant instead to call the President stupid because he misspeaks.

– He says this with a straight face, reminding us all of why we worked so hard to make sure him and others of his ilk were as thoroughly marginalized as possible.

DaveS on October 31, 2006 at 11:23 PM

Ya gotta love the MSM and how they portray this incident of Kerry plainly speaking his thoughts on the military. On MSN.com they have a poll which addresses the issue this way.
Were Sen. John Kerry’s remarks linking education to the war in Iraq appropriate? * 248164 responses
Yes; the military has long been a step up for those with less education. 18%
No; the comments implied that service members are not intelligent. 59%
They were misinterpreted or taken out of context. 22%

So, even though anyone with ears can plainly understand what he was saying when they poll to see if it was “appropriate” they have to spin the Yes as a positive when clearly Kerry made the point that if you don’t get a good education you end up in the armed forces fighting some stupid war.

Bias? What bias?

IMO the 22% are the hard lefties who hid from the truth. The 18% may honestly hold that opinion, but it has no connection to what Kerry actually said. Perhaps they are uninformed or ignorent of the context.

Speaking of the context if you watch the video past his speaking Kerry waits about 3 seconds then smiles when the kids laugh at his comment.

But he was taken out of context. What an ass!

Mich_93 on October 31, 2006 at 11:27 PM

Crazy Mccain was out and about in 2000 and it hurt him badly. Heard a clip of him losing it on the Michael Reagan show. Perhaps he has better handlers and actually listens to them. He certainly seems to have better handlers than his fellow senator.

Is he a “safe harbor” for you if your boy Rudy is overexposed in ’08?

DB on October 31, 2006 at 11:30 PM

While there is still no way McCain will get my vote in the ’08 primaries, I’ve got to give him his due on this one. He’s getting it done for Republicans, and at a crucial time. T

thirteen28 on October 31, 2006 at 11:31 PM

Is it me, or does McCain look very tired in that clip? Is age catching up to him?

Sydney Carton on October 31, 2006 at 11:34 PM

IMO the 22% are the hard lefties who hid from the truth. The 18% may honestly hold that opinion, but it has no connection to what Kerry actually said. Perhaps they are uninformed or ignorent of the context.
Mich_93 on October 31, 2006 at 11:27 PM

The MSM is using the people pulse to mystify our knowledge. I expect to see another poll that would read,” Do you think the attack on Kerry was attempt to close the debate on Iraq or Do you think that he was just misunderstood?

I can’t even choose. I predict that we would see something like this.

Ouabam on October 31, 2006 at 11:36 PM

My gosh, the NUANCE of Kerry…or is that NUISANCE.

If Kerry weren’t talking in front of students, then I can almost buy his wierd explanation. But he was IN FRONT OF STUDENTS.

This is amazing.

benrand on October 31, 2006 at 11:36 PM

Now I’m supposed to believe that McCain gives a rat’s butt about Kerry’s apparent attack on our troops when McCain doesn’t think we should be able to get information through waterboarding from captured terrorists that might save their lives?

I’m not buying what he’s selling.

McCain saw a cheap way to get brownie points with this story and ran with it IMO.

Benaiah on October 31, 2006 at 11:40 PM

Chris Matthews is Carnac the Magnificient and we’re just a bunch of right wing nutjobs. Kaptain Kerry and Popeye Pelosi better stay out of the public’s view for a few more days. Oh! I’m sorry, I’m just a right wing nutjob…

d1carter on October 31, 2006 at 11:44 PM

everyone else sees the sockpuppet, right?

jummy on October 31, 2006 at 11:45 PM

Kirsten is right, whether Kerry meant it or not he should apologize…he should “just fix it”. Gotta love Gibson’s comment quoting a Dem politician: “Kerry wasn’t happy blowing 2004, he now wants to blow 2006″…”is he the Democrat’s ‘Foley’”? And, by the way, AP, I love the word “impactful”.

thedecider on October 31, 2006 at 11:46 PM

Benaiah,
McCain Is a true patriot and hero. McCain has sacrificed more than most. This is not a cheap way to get brownie points. This has nothing to do with anything but what some former wannabe president elect said. If you had some matter between your ears you would realize that the one you defend is not a hero and most certainly not a patriot. Kerry said what he said and it was not taken out of context.

infidel on October 31, 2006 at 11:48 PM

infidel: I don’t believe Benaiah is defending Kerry, just making a comment about waterboarding terrorists which McCain – for reasons all his own – doesn’t support.

thedecider on October 31, 2006 at 11:51 PM

Benaiah, you’re saying that you can’t be offended at Kerry ostensibly calling the troops retards unless you support “waterboarding”?

DaveS on October 31, 2006 at 11:51 PM

Morton Kondrake Doesn’t Buy the “Joke” [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

said on FNC (Brit Hume’s show) tonight that Kerry was criticizing our troops.

John Kerry Refuses to Be Swift-Boated [John Podhoretz]

So instead, he swift-boats himself.

As Borat would say, “Niiiiiice.”

Entelechy on October 31, 2006 at 11:58 PM

Benaiah, you’re saying that you can’t be offended at Kerry ostensibly calling the troops retards unless you support “waterboarding”?

We do not have to be like the democrats who wanted Liberman to embolden all characteristic of the democratic party. Mccain stands for the most important thing: supporting the troops and winning the war.

Ouabam on November 1, 2006 at 12:03 AM

As others have pointed out, I’m not defending Kerry’s statement. Though I’m still not positive his intent was to malign the troops. Either way it was a dumb thing to say.

When I look at McCain, what I see is the worst RHINO in office. He pushed through the unconstitutional (Bush’s word for it before he signed it) McCain-Feingold legislation that limited free speech. He supports amnesty for illegal aliens. He doesn’t support waterboarding terrorists to get vital information from them. Thus he does support their right to hold on to that information even though it may cost the lives of our troops.

In short, he’s a schmuck.

Benaiah on November 1, 2006 at 12:40 AM

something about the “kerry was obviously referring to bush” spin which needs to be slapped down hard is the “obviously” part.

progressives have been doing battle with the institution of an all volunteer military since mid 2003, branding it early on as a “poverty draft”.

the battle became formalized and physical with the so-called “counter-recruiting” movement and tactics developed by the afsc. this gave members of the media and pundits a means to newsify their agenda against our armed forces. when counter-recruiters were active, any seasonal dip in recruiting numbers were eagerly promoted through alarmist news items.

but two years of examination disproved the assertion that counter-recruiters presented any real effect on recruiting numbers. the media elites’ explaination for this phenomenon has been to reaffirrm their base conciet that the only type of person capable of military duty is stupid by issuing news items asserting that the military has lowered its recruiting standards.

a google search of “lowering” “recruiting” “standards” results in thousands of hits from both the mainstream and leftwing activist media:

http://www.slate.com/id/2127487/ (uses the term “dumbing down” to describe new recruits)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15197832/
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1004-01.htm
etc.

other terms may be as effective. the point is that the leftwing conciet that military servicemembers are charictarized by intellectual inferiority, and that it is the noble concern of decent people that the military is the leading predator of our nation’s stupid, is one which is profligate and comfortably shared amongst the left.

in stark contradiction of the notion that kerry “obviously” could not have meant the troops, it is in fact unlikely that he intended to convey otherwise. his message was not meant, to his thinking, with wanton malice. rather his intention was to spur his audience to moral action – to strengthen education as an alternative to the predatory appeals of military service.

of course, a shorter route to disproving kerry’s spin is to try to parse bush into kerry’s statement:

“education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you [may become a president who get's our country] stuck in Iraq.”

i mean, honestly.

jummy on November 1, 2006 at 1:02 AM

It’s like a made-for-TV movie. Unreal – how could he be such a dunderhead.

IF they don’t watch it the Dems will snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.

heheh.

Dr. Gecko on November 1, 2006 at 1:15 AM

Yada yada yada. All this BS analyzing what Kerry said vs. what he meant. It’s quite obvious to me his opinion of the military is stuck in the anti-war movement of the 60′s/70′s, when the draft was still in effect. His statement clearly reflects the post-Vietnam view of the war, that the poor, uneducated, and minorities were drafted in disproportionate numbers to fight. I do not contend this was not the case, as it seems to me a part of the reason why the draft was eliminated. But it does go to show just how out of touch and behind the times that he is, projecting the Vietnam experience onto the war in Iraq.

bspoogeferd on November 1, 2006 at 1:17 AM

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall Humpty Dumpty had a great fall All the kings horses and all the Kings men couldn’t put Humpty together again

sonnyspats1 on November 1, 2006 at 1:21 AM

Even giving Kerry the benefit of the doubt that he was actually attempting to slander the President’s scholastic accomplishments but forgetting to utter several cognitively vital words in the process, it seems worth noting that the “joke” would have been profoundly disingenuous, anyway; the notion that Kerry represents scholastic achievement in the face of Bush’s backwardness is given the lie by the fact (which must be known even to Kerry by now) that Bush’s academic performance was the superior of the pair’s. (No doubt the nutroots will dismiss this as the result of some conspiracy to cook the gradebooks in Bush’s favor, but at this point we can’t expect any measure of evidence to actually influence the True Believers).

Whether it was a gaff or not, the story sticks because Kerry’s personal feelings about military personnel are already established. The reasons for his antipathy is perhaps less so, though it’s not hard to concoct plausible (if necessarily tenuous) theories. Likely, Kerry went to Vietnam with idealistic notions of emulating John Kennedy (and perhaps if to serve his country, only secondarily). There, rather than the gallant Hollywood comrades he expected, perhaps he judged many of his fellow servicemen to be, in his eyes, vulgar and simplistic folk. At best, they were clearly not refined enough to meet his ivy league standards; at worst, they were a pack of working class rednecks and farmboys whose mere presence sullied the ideals of his PT-109 fantasy.

Or, maybe he simply despised them because he had to share with them the latrine, or smell their stink for days while on river patrol–all those unpleasant realities that were left out of the Kennedy war stories and movies. Whatever the psychological pathology, his post-war statements at least make clear that he despised those men, and there’s no reason to think he doesn’t continue to despise them now. Whether the current controversy stems from callousness or mis-statement, the underlying truth seems undeniable: Kerry always has and always will see the typical US serviceman (not to mention simply the typical American) as beneath him.

Blacklake on November 1, 2006 at 1:29 AM

Believe it or not, some moonbat on DU actually calls his slam truth by trying to link Jessica Lynch to it.

Right in a Left World: Kerry Slams the Troops, Democrat Moonbat Tries to Justify

LewWaters on November 1, 2006 at 1:58 AM

Volunteer to get out the vote !!!

sonnyspats1 on November 1, 2006 at 2:22 AM

And on the last day of October we get the October GIFT!
To think that this guy could have been President.
“Reporting for Duty!”

CanaryinaCoalMine on November 1, 2006 at 2:24 AM

Volunteer to get out the Vote!!!!

sonnyspats1 on November 1, 2006 at 2:25 AM

If it was a joke that he goofed-up, what was the joke supposed to be? As far as I can tell so far, he has not said what the punchline should have been. Until he does this, it makes it difficult to belive it was a joke.

thule on November 1, 2006 at 2:39 AM

Sorry to get off subject, but if the powers that be (Allah etc.) happen to see this, i consistently have problems with your videos freezing up and am wondering if you have any suggestions. Besides telling me to learn how to work a computer of course.

Scot on November 1, 2006 at 2:49 AM

Scot, hit play and the immediately pause the video until it loads all the way. Then play it.

Pablo on November 1, 2006 at 3:18 AM

Ok. Thanks Pablo.

Scot on November 1, 2006 at 3:21 AM

Did the elephant shake his RINO fever for election season again?

Black Adam on November 1, 2006 at 3:30 AM

It’s interesting to watch John Kerry defending himself: “RESPONDING TO REPUBLICAN DISTORTIONS” (video) that he’s now leading with on his own website.

The press interviewing him are respectful, but it’s obvious they never buy it, not once, throughout his entire 10 minute “riding to his own defense” press conference. He walks off with them still shouting questions at him because of the inadequacy of his response and the offensiveness/stupidity (take your pick) of his insult.

And this is the video Kerry posted on his website. It makes him look bad, but there isn’t a whole lot he could do about it unless he edited out the reporters’ voices.

I think holding a press conference where he comes off like the reporters are stupid for thinking Kerry meant what they say doesn’t go over well. Reporters generally want him (well, maybe not him personally any more, but the Democratic Party) to win, but treating them like they are idiots must rub them the wrong way.

Christoph on November 1, 2006 at 3:52 AM

How does Sean sit there night after night with that dihhmitard, I swear I’d have to climb over the desk and tear his head off right there on camera…

Viper1 on November 1, 2006 at 5:53 AM

Over at Daily Kos, Markos, who noted that “…I haven’t been shy to pile on Kerry when warranted,” called what the Republicans were doing “a load of bullshit.” According to Markos, “Kerry responded the right way. Not by bowing to the full blast of the right wing noise machine, but by standing up to it on behalf of our troops, our nation, and the truth.”

So, it’s appropriate to not strike out “bullshit” on the website of a guy who ran for President?

What an embarassment…

benrand on November 1, 2006 at 5:57 AM

As “military trash”, SCREW an apology, I’d like the Junior Masshole to RESIGN. NOW.

seejanemom on November 1, 2006 at 6:26 AM

After the final 2004 Bush-Kerry debate, where Bush debated a well-rested Kerry on virtually no sleep and passed up some easy opportunities to slam the door shut, is when I had the sense that Kerry might actually win the election.

That’s also when I had the crystal-clear realization that, if elected, Kerry would become the target of the most vicious satire we’ve ever witnessed against a president, even more so than Bush, and even by Kerry’s “friends” the Europeans, who would call him nicknames behind his back, even as they pretended to respect him for the sake of the cameras, due to his prolific oeuvre of spinelessness and willingness to cave to the so-called “world community” on just about any issue.

Meet John Karaoke, DJ-in-chief, Cheerleader of the Chattering Classes, Crooner of Old Europe, He who Parrots the Talking Points of the World Community, and He who (enthusiastically) Takes Requests from Foreign Leaders.

I elaborated on the idea at the time (yes, it’s satire!) but didn’t share it. Is anyone remotely interested? If so I may post it online. It’s obviously a little dated…but still a rebuttal against his reaching higher office.

RD on November 1, 2006 at 6:39 AM

Update: The first lifeboat hits the water: Iowa Congressional candidate Bruce Braley has kancelled Kerry…

Do I understand this correctly: First Mr. Kerry was swift-boated … now he’s being “lifeboated”?

RD on November 1, 2006 at 6:56 AM

Christoph,

And this is the video Kerry posted on his website. It makes him look bad, but there isn’t a whole lot he could do about it unless he edited out the reporters’ voices.

It takes enormous gonads to segue from reminiscences of Vietnam to an accusation that the GOP is trying to change the subject. Then to Katrina and Michael J. Fox…

What a tool.

Pablo on November 1, 2006 at 7:43 AM

Lying and lying about the lie worked for Clinton. Maybe he needs to define the word “stuck”.

Hening on November 1, 2006 at 7:45 AM

Feel free to share this and this and this with the Senator.

Its my pleasure.

Viper1 on November 1, 2006 at 7:51 AM

Kerry and Kos form a logical pair. Now, either get to the polls or resign yourself to a congress driven by this same mentality and value system. Kerry and his band of narcissistic traitors in the party of the Democrats are again trashing the country and its military. If they are allowed to succeed then we had better never again send our youth to die for a government that lacks the courage, determination and will join them in the battle and stand with them to the end.

rplat on November 1, 2006 at 7:55 AM

McCain did look tired, but I thought that the calm, quiet approach was an nice contrast to Dean, Kerry, and the other members of the left in the news lately. I wonder if he’s intentionally making this contrast?

High Desert Wanderer on November 1, 2006 at 8:14 AM

I know no one will believe me, since the Dems are unabashed supporters of free speecha nd all of that, but on Kerry’s blog, any comments which are not supportive of the esteem Senator, are being posted, then removed.

yo on November 1, 2006 at 8:21 AM

.. oops, sorry, they are only taking down posts which ask about SF180, or any mentions of Kerry’s comments regarding famous mongolian leaders.

yo on November 1, 2006 at 8:25 AM

Kerry’s current and past comments on US troops should be a part of the ad campaign in every State. It’s doesn’t matter if the Democrat running for the House or the Senate in that State are “good guys/gals”. If elected he/she will be beholden to the Liberal party leaders in both houses. A vote for a Democrat is a vote for the likes of Kerry, Kennedy, Shumer, Durbin, Reid, Pelosi, Murtha, Levin, etc.

This country doesn’t need these libs in charge of our destiny!

Golfer_75093 on November 1, 2006 at 8:37 AM

Even as a die-hard conservative, I have to partially agree with Kerry.
If you don’t get an education, you will end up a liberal.

Wil on November 1, 2006 at 9:32 AM

Kerry is reportedly ‘canceling’ all of his public appearances. Cut-and-run Kerry. :o)

DannoJyd on November 1, 2006 at 10:53 AM

I have always regarded Michael Barone as a very sober, reasoned, pundit. One who probably tilts a little conservative, but certainly not a partisan ideologue.

I have never seen Michael Barone as exercised and agitated as he was on that Fox All Stars segment last night when it came to the Kerry story. He was flat out hot about what Kerry said, to the point of trying to jump in when Mort seemed to be cutting Kerry too much slack. I think this really pisses people off, and it wouldn’t have such resonance if people weren’t already sure that this is what Kerry actually thinks.

Dudley Smith on November 1, 2006 at 12:22 PM

Don’t you people get it yet? We’re all just too stupid to understand the joke he was making, and he won’t apologize!

When he flip-flops and apologizes in a few days it will be too little too late.

NTWR on November 1, 2006 at 1:11 PM

When you lose the BBC and Andrew Sullivan…

I may not find myself the only conservative moving slowly and reluctantly toward the notion that Kerry may be the right man – and the conservative choice – for a difficult and perilous time.

–Andrew Sullivan

The Ugly American on November 1, 2006 at 3:09 PM

Likely, Kerry went to Vietnam with idealistic notions of emulating John Kennedy (and perhaps if to serve his country, only secondarily).

This is from an Irish Times article dated Feb 26, 2004:

In fact, like many well connected white boys, both tried (understandably) to avoid action in Vietnam by volunteering for safe branches of the US armed forces. Bush joined the air force reserve in Texas, to protect the US from Mexico; Kerry volunteered for the US navy, at a time when it seemed the Vietnamese were as great a threat to American seamen as Papa Doc’s Tonton Macoute were to the Eskimos of the Yukon.

Then one day some bright spark decided to surprise the Vietcong by sending boats up the Mekong Delta’s many waterways. Ah. But boats, however, need sailors: so, suddenly, it seemed, the war had come to seamen. Lots of gallant, wanly Wasp smiles from Jeff and Clark and Kent on the quarterdeck. No matter; when the time came, Kerry did his bit, and no doubt deserved his medals.

aengus on November 1, 2006 at 3:11 PM

Alan Colmes lives in a fantasy world. Or he’s just incredibly stupid, and somehow has a great gig on FOX. Something like “Chance the Gardener” in “Being There.”

Between his questions to McCain and hearing other shows where he expressed his opinion on how to handle North Korea, he simply can not be taken seriously.

asc85 on November 1, 2006 at 5:13 PM

Kerry is cancelling his agenda. This is the man who is standing up and fighting back? The final week of battle and John Kerry will be MIA. Mr. Waffles has become Ol’ Yeller.
The heart of the Democratic leadeship, by the way…anyone seen or heard Pelosi lately. Must be harvesting season at her wineries, paying off the non-union, illegal alien help.

right2bright on November 1, 2006 at 5:20 PM

Blacklake: FWIW, thought your post was terrific. During the 2004 election cycle I often wondered what made John Kerry tick, at least during the Vietnam war era.

Whether it was a gaff or not, the story sticks because Kerry’s personal feelings about military personnel are already established. The reasons for his antipathy is perhaps less so, though it’s not hard to concoct plausible (if necessarily tenuous) theories.

Whatever Kerry’s issue was, I think it may have blossomed before he went to war. If I heard correctly, he was active in the anti-war movement before he ever set foot in Vietnam (though I’ve never heard him point that out).

The more I juxtapose that with his preferred narrative of a bright-eyed young man disillusioned by the reality of war, the more absurd the narrative becomes. So what was the real John Kerry about during the war?

Likely, Kerry went to Vietnam with idealistic notions of emulating John Kennedy (and perhaps if to serve his country, only secondarily). There, rather than the gallant Hollywood comrades he expected, perhaps he judged many of his fellow servicemen to be, in his eyes, vulgar and simplistic folk.

Yezz… mingling with the hoi polloi…

I’m wondering: what his supposed idealism is a sham? What if he saw his role there specifically to gather intel on the “enemy” – the U.S. military – and report back to his anti-war comrades once his umpteen weeks were up? And to arrogate the moral authority of a Vietnam veteran in the process so that when his turn came to speak, his preconceived notions about Jenjiss Khan’s army could be served up to a credulous public with the aura of plausibility? What better assignment for a committed anti-war activist with ambitions for higher office? (“Objection your Honor, argumentative…”)

At best, they were clearly not refined enough to meet his ivy league standards; at worst, they were a pack of working class rednecks and farmboys whose mere presence sullied the ideals of his PT-109 fantasy.

RD on November 2, 2006 at 12:14 AM

I’m wondering: what his supposed idealism is a sham?

Er: what if his supposed idealism is a sham?

RD on November 2, 2006 at 12:16 AM

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