Video: Bush rips Kerry for comments about troops; Update: McCain rips Kerry again

posted at 6:11 pm on October 31, 2006 by Allahpundit

I thought the nutroots would be having an out-of-body experience after Kerry’s remarks today but it turns out some of them are smarter than that. Dean Barnett e-mails to point us towards this Kos thread, where opinion on Lurch is split. More significant is the verdict of Olbermannesque Bush-hater Jack “Broken Government” Cafferty, who played Brian Fantana to Kerry’s Champ Kind this afternoon by recommending he stop talking for awhile.

Speaking of Olby, with the American Legion and AmVets demanding an apology from Waffles, will he do the smart thing and call for him to retract? Or will he applaud the Senator’s descent into full-blown nutrootsdom? Olbermann Watch has the answer.

You know they were praying for someone in the background here to make a face.


Update: The quote of the day belongs to neither Bush nor Kerry but to an unnamed Congressman.

Update: Kos sounds the rallying cry as only he can.

Update: Tinti has video of Chris Matthews insisting that Kerry didn’t say what he actually said. McCain’s not buying it:

You can’t make this up. His statement, basically, was so demeaning to the men and women who are serving in the military that you will be even more grateful than you are at this moment that George Bush is president of the United States…

You can’t make this up. His statement was that if you get an education and you do well, then you don’t have to go to Iraq, and if you don’t have an education, then you have to go to Iraq. Do you know how demeaning that is to the men and women who are serving so magnificently in the cause of freedom and are fighting and dying in Iraq today? As I said, you can’t make it up.

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Montana, that’s a good point about Kerry’s record speaking for itself. I said similar things when the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth came out against Kerry. While I’m personally inclined to believe their charges against Kerry, there are more than enough reasons to despise the guy based on everything he did since Vietnam that’s in the public record.

And The Machine, the only reason people like me are here today is that better men and women served before us.
*returns salute*

ReubenJCogburn on October 31, 2006 at 9:47 PM

Allen Colmes is currently spinning like a centrifuge, trying to convince people that what Kerry said wasn’t what he said.

ReubenJCogburn on October 31, 2006 at 9:53 PM

Kerry left out one little bitty word, and man does it make all the difference. He may have meant to have said, “. . .if you don’t, you getus stuck in Iraq.” That would have been the allusion to Bush he claims he meant to make. That’s why his immediate shift into nuclear dudgeon was soooo stupid. You can’t accuse people of deliberately misunderstanding and distorting what you said, when it makes more sense the way they understood it than the way you said it. They didn’t distort what he said, he distorted what he meant. The putz.

smellthecoffee on October 31, 2006 at 10:10 PM

hhhmmm I wonder whose the terrorists would take in this little debate?

Tony737 on October 31, 2006 at 10:12 PM

Allen appears uber deflated tonight. He’s really trying to sell this piece of crap “explanation”. It’s really hilarious to watch.

That was a pretty low blow about Nancy Pelosi, though, by the pollster. I mean, the facelift didn’t work. And the botox isn’t helping, so it’s not nice o mock it.

SouthernGent on October 31, 2006 at 10:14 PM

When I see the way Kerry reacts under pressure by lashing out wildly and making things worse, it makes me even more relieved he’s not the President.

NellE on October 31, 2006 at 10:23 PM

Wasn’t Kerry supposed to be the better statesman?

But, it is entertaining as all get out to hold the mirror in front of the left and watch how they freak at the horrors of reality.

yo on October 31, 2006 at 10:24 PM

“Lurch”

LOL!!!

CliffHanger on October 31, 2006 at 10:26 PM

Who cares? Pelosi paid good money for that look of perpetual shock and…is it really mocking if we’re just stating facts?

thedecider on October 31, 2006 at 10:30 PM

They’re x-raying your post for pins. It’s a hard, hard world we live in, can’t be too careful….

Not necessary. I love you, my fellow Americans. Really I do. It’s just some of your ideas that suck.

Constantine on October 31, 2006 at 10:38 PM

Well, the feelings mutual, Con-man; almost all of your ideas suck Big Time but Happy All Hallows Eve to you, too.

Jen the Neocon on October 31, 2006 at 10:59 PM

something about the “kerry was obviously referring to bush” spin which needs to be slapped down hard is the “obviously” part.

progressives have been doing battle with the institution of an all volunteer military since mid 2003, branding it early on as a “poverty draft”.

the battle became formalized and physical with the so-called “counter-recruiting” movement and tactics developed by the afsc. this gave members of the media and pundits a means to newsify their agenda against our armed forces. when counter-recruiters were active, any seasonal dip in recruiting numbers were eagerly promoted through alarmist news items.

but two years of examination disproved the assertion that counter-recruiters presented any real effect on recruiting numbers. the media elites’ explaination for this phenomenon has been to reaffirrm their base conciet that the only type of person capable of military duty is stupid by issuing news items asserting that the military has lowered its recruiting standards.

a google search of “lowering” “recruiting” “standards” results in thousands of hits from both the mainstream and leftwing activist media:

http://www.slate.com/id/2127487/ (uses the term “dumbing down” to describe new recruits)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15197832/
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1004-01.htm
etc.

other terms may be as effective. the point is that the leftwing conciet that military servicemembers are charictarized by intellectual inferiority, and that it is the noble concern of decent people that the military is the leading predator of our nation’s stupid, is one which is profligate and comfortably shared amongst the left.

in stark contradiction of the notion that kerry “obviously” could not have meant the troops, it is in fact unlikely that he intended to convey otherwise. his message was not meant, to his thinking, with wanton malice. rather his intention was to spur his audience to moral action – to strengthen education as an alternative to the predatory appeals of military service.

of course, a shorter route to disproving kerry’s spin is to try to parse bush into kerry’s statement:

“education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you [may become a president who get's our country] stuck in Iraq.”

i mean, honestly.

jummy on October 31, 2006 at 11:00 PM

“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful. And so are we. They never stop thinking of new ways to harm our country and our people. And neither do we.”

Pretty consistent with his actions, too.

Constantine on October 31, 2006 at 8:19 PM

************
It’s good to see that you recognize the consistency. However, it appears your understanding of the quote may need some tweaking. The purpose of ‘thinking of new ways to harm our country and our people’ is to formulate a deterrent to any ‘new way’ the enemy may attempt. The purpose is not to do the harm…it is to prevent the enemy from doing so, if, they think of doing the same thing.

News2Use on October 31, 2006 at 11:30 PM

Speaking as one of the troops, I can assure any doubters that we know exactly how most liberals think of us, and the feeling (contempt) is mutual. I welcome any and all current and former servicemembers to tell me I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure you won’t.

ReubenJCogburn on October 31, 2006 at 9:03 PM

Glad to hear this from someone who counts. Thank you for doing what you do, so we, including Mr. Kerry, can be free and stupid. For example:

Not necessary. I love you, my fellow Americans. Really I do. It’s just some of your ideas that suck.

Constantine on October 31, 2006 at 10:38 PM

We know Constantine, we know. No one, but no one can be as smart as you and Mr. Kerry & all (the rest of the blue elite).

Psychologically the Kerry Dummygate is a classic.

The Bushism references are so miniscule and ridiculous. We already know and expect for Mr. Bush (43) to be a poor speaker. We also were told, often by him, of Mr. Kerry’s superiour reasoning-, communication-, negotiation-, nuance- and speaking-powers.

This is why the ‘explanation’ is so ridiculous. I don’t buy the joke or the ‘Bush in Iraq’ line at all. It is lame. I’ll bet you anything that Mr. & Mrs. Clinton and the sane liberals aren’t buying it either.

What does Iraq have to do with education? Sorry, he said what he meant to say, be it subconsciously (which Freudian slips are).

It couldn’t have happened to a more petulant prima donna. The timing is pure karma!

Entelechy on October 31, 2006 at 11:36 PM

I remember Gore saying Conservatives have some sort of chromosome damage, like they are retarded.

But Kerry wasn’t talking about the troops…yep.

benrand on October 31, 2006 at 11:38 PM

Politicians, by necessity, must be good actors. They need to be able to deliver their lines at the correct time, with the correct intonation, and using the correct phrasing. Politicians will try to convey anger/sadness/joy/incredulity as the needs dictate.

But sometimes, a politician will not NEED to fake his/her emotions. Sometimes, they’re so fired up that their true feelings or emotions are let loose. One such case was when Howard Dean let out his infamous ‘whoop’ that led to his downfall in the 2004 presidential race.

Another one was in the clip AP posted of Pres. Bush. The absolute anger he feels over Kerry’s idiotic remarks really shines through; you can tell without a doubt that he is completely and utterly disgusted with Sen. Kerry.

dalewalt on October 31, 2006 at 11:53 PM

you can tell without a doubt that he is completely and utterly disgusted with Sen. Kerry.

As he should be, and so should we all. It is nearly impossible to even parody Kerry at this point.

thedecider on November 1, 2006 at 12:20 AM

I remember Gore saying Conservatives have some sort of chromosome damage, like they are retarded.

But Kerry wasn’t talking about the troops…yep.

benrand on October 31, 2006 at 11:38 PM

…and Messrs Gore and Kerry, each, have one too many (chromosomes)…

Entelechy on November 1, 2006 at 12:37 AM

Now that fine smirk was bought and paid for by the Kerry for dumbshit of the month committee…
John Kerry President (well at least he got to be president of something).

RalphyBoy on November 1, 2006 at 1:32 AM

Volunteer to get out the vote!!!!

sonnyspats1 on November 1, 2006 at 2:21 AM

A representative sample comment from Kos:

hardly anybody will ever hear or read Kerry’s retort.

It’s unfair when the Repugs are saying idiotic things every day, but the Dems have ZERO room for error when the other side owns the essentially all the media.

Yes, the media is in the tank for the GOP, you heard it first in fantasyland

Freelancer on November 1, 2006 at 3:01 AM

I’ve said it before–you’d have to be somewhat to left of Che Guevara to think that the media has a right-wing bias. Apparently the Liberal Stream Media just isn’t liberal enough in liberal whackjob fantasyland.

ReubenJCogburn on November 1, 2006 at 3:32 AM

“We need an energy bill that encourages consumption.”

Constantine on October 31, 2006 at 8:19 PM

The question is why would Bush state something so obvious. The answer is that he can make the brainwashed take a stance against the obvious.

It would be pretty stupid to go through the trouble of creating an energy bill that discourages consupmtion. It would mean that your energy bill will bring about energy shortages and higher energy prices.

If an energy bill is designed to create more sources of energy, more total energy for use and more affordable energy; it means more energy output which means more production, etc.

Perchant on November 1, 2006 at 4:38 AM

Compare and Contrast

“You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”

They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.

Oh.. wait.. Hhhmmm

Viper1 on November 1, 2006 at 5:29 AM

Did Kerry slip and let the cat out of the bag re the upcoming draft if the Dems. get in?

CanaryinaCoalMine on November 1, 2006 at 5:40 AM

Did Kerry slip and let the cat out of the bag re the upcoming draft if the Dems. get in?

CanaryinaCoalMine on November 1, 2006 at 5:40 AM

LOL

That sounds like a rumor that would be hard to kill.

Truth be told, I think Rangel was in favor of a draft

Yep, here it is! http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/01/07/rangel.draft/

Great scott! Here is a more recent attempt!
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=6702

Black Adam on November 1, 2006 at 7:39 AM

Hey Constantine, why are you hiding in this thread, when in the other thread you started with the “Bush lied about Niger” crap? You cited TruthOut.org (yeah, the guys that kept predicting Rove will be indicted “tomorrow”, according to their inside sources). After that you thought saying “it’s actually a Vanity Fair piece” would cause us to to rethink the source. First of all, you fail to acknowledge that the writer is a pal of Michael Moore’s, featured in F911. Anyway, you mockingly challenged us to prove that Saddam did try to buy yellowcake from Niger, as if it wasn’t common knowledge to anyone who truly chooses to be informed, rather than drink Kos Aid. I gave you FactCheck.org., someone else gave you the intelligence report, others gave you a Wall Street Journal piece and a Real Clear Politics piece. Again, it shouldn’t have been necessary to provide these sense everyone already knew this except dishonest liberals. Now if you want to play dumb and say “news to me”, then perhaps you shouldn’t speak on issuese you don’t know about in the future. But what pisses me off is that I’ve seen you repeatedly do this around HotAir. You start sh** with your uninformed talking points, demand answers, and when you get them, you totally run from the thread, never to return again. You’re a weakling. Go back to Kos where you can just spew Bush hatred back and forth unchallenged all day. We deal with facts and your kind just annoys the hell out of me.

RightWinged on November 1, 2006 at 8:01 AM

I think now is the time for Bush to come out against the No Child Left Behind Act.

“Given the recent enlightment of the characters of the two men who wrote it, one of them who obviously has contempt for our education system (Kerry), I would say that the bill must somehow be tainted in a way that I didn’t recognize before. Surely they wrote it to actually weaken our schools and put us behind the other nations of the world in an attempt to somehow weaken our superpower status (Kennedy in relation to recent Cold war docs).”

I’m a teacher. Think of the support he -read Republicans- would instantly get from teachers across the nation!?!? WE ALL HATE IT!!

d-rock on November 1, 2006 at 8:40 AM

So if I went to college I wouldn’t have to serve? Uh, didn’t we go through that before?
But now it’s alright?
:eek

CBarker on November 1, 2006 at 9:40 AM

It is an age old story. In politics, its not the crime, but the cover up that gets you in trouble. I actually believe Lurch that he really wanted to insult Bush’s stupidity, and not soldiers. However, instead of admitting he might have offended some service members, he made things worse by saying he stands on his record of ‘supporting’ troops, which we all know is pathetic. Bush is playing this one perfectly. He doesn’t need to harp on this, or fire any shots across the bow. Just let the Dems do all the shooting, which will all hit themselves in the feet.

BohicaTwentyTwo on November 1, 2006 at 10:12 AM

Its simple really, He needs to resign, that would be a fitting apology for his current and previous transgressions.

Viper1 on November 1, 2006 at 10:33 AM

Its simple really, He needs to resign, that would be a fitting apology for his current and previous transgressions.

Viper1 on November 1, 2006 at 10:33 AM

…so you’re saying there’s a chance?

JoeFunk on November 1, 2006 at 12:57 PM

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