Video: Allen’s staffers toss Kos Kid to the floor

posted at 8:18 pm on October 31, 2006 by Allahpundit

You knew there’d be violence in this campaign sooner or later.

The nutroots’ mock outrage is mounting, as would ours be if a righty blogger had been laid out by Jim Webb’s handlers. Of course, righty bloggers wouldn’t be trying to push their way through a ring of people to shout questions about whether the candidate had ever spat on his ex-wife.

Although we might shout a question or two re: how he feels about boys’ penises in men’s mouths.

Jon Henke at Allen HQ has background on this guy. His name’s Mike Stark, he posts at dKos, and his preferred method of public discourse appears to be “guerrilla tactics.”

Oh, and according to Alternet by way of John Kerry, he’s lazy and uneducated.

Update: More.

Allen’s former wife, Anne Waddell, issued a statement calling Stark’s question “a baseless, cheap shot.”

Waddell, who lives in California, said she and Allen divorced more than 22 years ago, and because it was a personal matter they sealed the divorce records…

In a Monday posting on “Calling All Wingnuts,” the blog Stark publishes, he hinted that he would attempt to provoke Allen before the TV cameras.

“Im also trying to `Roger and Me’ George Allen whenever I can,” Stark wrote, referring to director Michael Moore’s 1989 documentary in which he repeatedly tried to confront former General Motors’ chief executive Roger Smith about the company’s downsizing.

Update: Ace remembers a time when throwing political hecklers to the floor was not only accepted but applauded. But they did things differently back in 2004.

Update: Mike Stark meets the intelligentsia.


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Hrmm…trying to bully your way up to a government official with a backpack on these days may not be the most intelligent idea.

Now if we could just hire these guys that tackled him to protect conservative speakers at college campuses we’d be golden.

Benaiah on October 31, 2006 at 8:35 PM

This is getting ugly. Get it? Get it?

I’ll be here all night.

Ugly on October 31, 2006 at 8:37 PM

A little over the top, maybe, but old boy was pretty bloody stupid trying to muscle in like that. Minus ten points for both sides on this one: the Allen folks for getting perhaps more rough than necessary and the “protestor” for trying to force a face to face confrontation with Allen. John Hinkley, anyone?

Militant Bibliophile on October 31, 2006 at 8:43 PM

Why do I always miss all of the fun?

KOS kooks, Beware!!! Bwahahahahahahaha…

DannoJyd on October 31, 2006 at 8:48 PM

Why do I always miss all of the fun?

KOS kooks, Beware!!! Bwahahahahahahaha…

DannoJyd on October 31, 2006 at 8:48 PM

I’d say the partisans on both sides need to stop, take a deep breath, and calm the heck down.

EFG on October 31, 2006 at 8:49 PM

It’s been ugly for a while — where’ve you been? :-P

whtabtbill on October 31, 2006 at 8:49 PM

The media spin on this is the brutality of Allen’s supporters, not the inexcusable and aggressive behavior of the man who initiated and continued to muscle his way to get close to Sen. Allen, for the express purpose of antagonizing the man for political theatre.
Tomorrow, all day ad nauseum: “Sen Allen’s thugs – tape at the top of the hour.”

naliaka on October 31, 2006 at 8:49 PM

Someone last week (MM, if I recall correctly) reasoned that Harold Ford was improving in public opinion, despite his recent meltdown at the Corker presser and forked-tongue, cowardly initial response when asked about the playboy party. From polls released today, it appears that MM was incorrect on that assessment. Today, a Webb supporter melts down. Similarly to Corker, I’d look for Allen to benefit greatly by this incident. Corker +8, Allen moving to +7 by Friday, and Steele’s campaign is absolutely on fire, and I’d bet he wins by 7 or more percent now. If you guys in Missouri can seal the deal there, we can concentrate on giving Santorum some good kharma.

cms on October 31, 2006 at 8:52 PM

It’s been ugly for a while — where’ve you been? :-P

whtabtbill on October 31, 2006 at 8:49 PM

At the local beauty salon…

=’P

Ugly on October 31, 2006 at 8:55 PM

I’ve heard of hit-whoring for your blog, but I think getting your ass whupped for hits is a bit desperate…

There need to be folks at political gatherings that will chase down and stomp a mud-hole in the ass of the egg/pie/insult/B.S. throwing disrupters that want “Free speech for me but not for thee”. There is a difference in intelligent, rational discourse between opposing views, and the rantings of reality challenged individuals who can’t deal with facts.

And Speaking of facts, I found a new word over at Grouchy Old Cripple

Factastic: (adj) A word used to describe a situation in which a blogger totally destroys a troll’s weak-ass argument by rebutting with irrefutable facts .

MOMinuteman on October 31, 2006 at 8:58 PM

“Allen’s people tackled him to the ground. Some may call it manhandling…”

Aside from the fact I’m not sure we know these were “Allen’s people”, but give me a break, he tripped or something. They were trying to get him out, they didn’t want him on the floor. He was like a bratty kid who doesn’t cooperate in the store. You have to hold his hand and keep dragging him along, but if he really wants to throw a tantrum his just goes dead weight and lets himself drop to the floor.

This may have been overboard though, I don’t know. Obviously they only want to show this part of the video… Do we know whether this guy had been acting like this for 5 minutes preceding it? But even still, he’s trying to shove his way past people being extremely disrespectful. Talk about taking one for the team though. I feel silly saying it, but I think there’se a good chance this was done to take attention away from the Kerry thing. Would you be that surprised?

RightWinged on October 31, 2006 at 8:59 PM

pushing and shouting your way through a ring of people toward a US Senator, while carrying a backpack is a good way of getting seriously hurt. He’s luck there was no armed police officers in the area.

TheBigOldDog on October 31, 2006 at 9:03 PM

Could someone do this to John Kerry, please?

SouthernGent on October 31, 2006 at 9:03 PM

Democrats seem awful nervous, don’t they?

JammieWearingFool on October 31, 2006 at 9:06 PM

They really must be afraid of Allen… because there was a post over at the inmates of DUmmieland saying that they were going all around town telling strangers that Allen beat his wife, which is why she divorced him.

Shameful. They can’t win on facts and reality, they have to make things up.

Enoxo on October 31, 2006 at 9:17 PM

They really must be afraid of Allen… because there was a post over at the inmates of DUmmieland saying that they were going all around town telling strangers that Allen beat his wife, which is why she divorced him.

Shameful. They can’t win on facts and reality, they have to make things up

Gee, I guess he deserves it for telling the people of Virginia what Webb wrote in hos novels.

Where’s the condemnation? – Queue crickets

TheBigOldDog on October 31, 2006 at 9:20 PM

…an Allen staffer snaps after two or more months since “macaca” and a feeding frenzy about the “n-word”, soft-peddling by the MSM on Webb, at the end of a poorly run campaign.

Fire the staffer after an apology by the staffer to the guy, because he should’ve been a pro. The candidate might want to give him a tip o’ the hat for hiring the guy, but don’t overdo it.

After all this, let the guy know that in real life you *NEVER* rush *ANYONE* with questions like “Did you spit on your ex-wife” without expecting the person himself — candidate or no candidate — to b*tch slap him to the ground…then stomp him.

The guy being wrestled to the ground owns two “brain cramps” of his own:

1) He was obviously an agent provocateur, and
2) He didn’t know when to quit.

…he’s no choir boy, in other words.

He’ll be painted by CNN, et. al., as the “wronged party”. There was plenty of “wrong” to go ’round in this case.

Puritan1648 on October 31, 2006 at 9:20 PM

Thats what I want to be for Hollaween. GIRILLA!

sonnyspats1 on October 31, 2006 at 9:20 PM

If you’re working security for a U.S. Senator and some random guy wearing a backpack tries to charge through your cordon, you put him down. Hard. I’d recommend putting him in a chokehold and pepper-spraying his ass–that’ll take some of that bad attitude right out of him–but that’s just me. In today’s environment, you can’t take the chance that he isn’t some psycho or a terrorist or who knows what. Think of the shooter at the Jewish women’s center a few months back, or Sirhan Sirhan, or any one of a thousand other random violent incidents. Thinking “it can’t happen here” gets people killed.

ReubenJCogburn on October 31, 2006 at 9:23 PM

Apologize? For what? They had no idea who this guy was or what his purpose was. You know that now, but nobody knew it at the time. All they know is they have scruffy looking guy with a backpack pushing and shouting his way toward a US Senator. What do you think an armed security agent would have done?

TheBigOldDog on October 31, 2006 at 9:29 PM

If you’re working security for a U.S. Senator and some random guy wearing a backpack tries to charge through your cordon, you put him down. Hard.

…the guy didn’t look or behave like a security detail guy…that, and he was remarking testily about how asking “did you spit on your ex-wife”, “Now you’re getting personal”. Any security guy would’ve been saying, “that’ll do, sir” or “back off, sir” or, as he took him down, “lie still, sir”.

At first, they let the guy rush in too close, so they weren’t very vigilant. Then, what it looked like was a young-ish heavyweight pinhead bumping up against a middle-age-ish grey-headed heavyweight…sort of like bumper cars. Security people have protocols for cutting out brainless or genuine threats. If there were security guys on site, they would’ve backed the older guy up, or taken over…not let him take the guy down more or less by himself.

This guy looked like a staffer, not a security professional. He wasn’t being…well…very professional.

That said, it seems that the moron was looking to “Michael Moore” Allen. That puts him *at least* even with the staffer in the fault department. Think about it: who’s to blame? The guy who gets his nose broken, or the guy who dares the other guy to break his nose?

Puritan1648 on October 31, 2006 at 9:36 PM

Ha ha, that was a nice takedown.

WisCon on October 31, 2006 at 9:43 PM

One guy acting aggresively, jumping around in a dang “attack” mode, and yelling at someone about divorce allegations. John Q. Public is going to see this and his gut is going to say “The Webb camp are a bunch of a–holes. This is a huge bonus for the Allen camp. If this is the last word on the campaign, its all smooth sailing for George.

cms on October 31, 2006 at 9:50 PM

Allen wins by 6 to 8 points. Next!

revolution on October 31, 2006 at 9:50 PM

This is getting ugly. Get it? Get it?

I’ll be here all night.

Ugly on October 31, 2006 at 8:37 PM

Snort snort … chortle chorlte (insert knee-slapping sounds here)….I get it!!

It’s like, a pun and stuff, right?

Seriously, I knew something like this was coming last week when word came that ‘surrogates’ of Webb were rifling through Allen’s divorce records. Whatever backlash Allen risked with ‘novelgate’ will be minimized now, and perhaps he was even trying to bait the other side.

thirteen28 on October 31, 2006 at 9:52 PM

Could someone do this to John Kerry, please?

SouthernGent on October 31, 2006 at 9:03 PM

I certainly understand where you are coming from, but it’s best for us to keep Kerry on his feet and talking.

thirteen28 on October 31, 2006 at 9:53 PM

Good thing he didn’t have any balls, or they would have been kicked! And on TV, that ain’t pretty!

shaken on October 31, 2006 at 9:54 PM

Easy to discern all that sitting in front of your computer staring at a screen with no sense of danger, no adrenalin pumping with some nutjob pushing and shouting. Hindsight is 20/20. He’s lucky he wasn’t seriously hurt and Allen is lucky some nut hasn’t done him harm given how easy it is to get that close to him before being confronted.

TheBigOldDog on October 31, 2006 at 9:56 PM

Good points, BOD

Ugly on October 31, 2006 at 10:14 PM

The peacniks are the first to resort to violence.

infidel on October 31, 2006 at 10:36 PM

Makes me wonder if I should truly put koskids.com to use for something. They are nuts.

zerodamage on October 31, 2006 at 10:47 PM

Hey, if Al Franken can do it…

JimC on October 31, 2006 at 10:49 PM

Are you kidding me!

Lets forget about Canidate Allen.

He is a freaking United States Senator, good Lord, he’s lucky he did not dropped face first with a knee in his back.

What are people thinking, you can’t do that to a sitting US Senator.

Webb should speak out against it, oh I forgot his batteries are running low.

If this had been a Rebublican, could you imagine the out cry.

What in the world.

ross

kara26 on October 31, 2006 at 10:54 PM

Anyone else agree that this is quite possibly a desperate attempt by the left to get the Kerry comments out of the headlines? I don’t know whether they would have gotten together to come up with the plan, or whether this guy would have acted on his own… but am I the only one who can conceive of this being done for no reason other than to take the spotlight off of Kerry?

RightWinged on October 31, 2006 at 11:03 PM

Stark isn’t smart enough to think of pulling a stunt like this to get the spotlight off of anyone. He’s just looking for the attention that his daddy wouldn’t give him.

Phil Smith on October 31, 2006 at 11:10 PM

He got his ass kicked by an old fat white guy.

AAHAAHAAAAAAAAA

I take some pleasure in that.

benrand on October 31, 2006 at 11:48 PM

The action kinda reminds me of when Jack Ruby killed Lee Harvey Oswald.

The guy should have been taken down harder and much earlier given the fact that Allen is a sitting Senator and given the times in which we are living.

The level of response would have been appropriate for someone running for the Mayor of ‘Podunk’ maybe, but security for a U.S Senator should be a little more intense.

LegendHasIt on October 31, 2006 at 11:53 PM

Minus ten points for both sides on this one: the Allen folks for getting perhaps more rough than necessary and the “protestor” for trying to force a face to face confrontation with Allen. John Hinkley, anyone?

Militant Bibliophile on October 31, 2006 at 8:43 PM

I don’t agree that the Allen folks got more rough than necessary. As others have said, the Allen staffers had no idea what this guy’s intentions were; they asked him to leave and he refused. They tried to lead him away and he resisted. Not only should he have been put down on the ground, but he should’ve been arrested for disorderly conduct at the very least.

Behavior like this should NOT be tolerated; no matter who the candidate is and no matter who the interloper is.

dalewalt on November 1, 2006 at 12:00 AM

Mike Stark, He’s a real sweetheart.

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=211950884&size=m

Texyank on November 1, 2006 at 12:05 AM

…but am I the only one who can conceive of this being done for no reason other than to take the spotlight off of Kerry?
RightWinged on October 31, 2006 at 11:03 PM

Nah, too much glow, on so much Kerry. It will take more than this…besides, this would not have happened if Kerry were the President.

Entelechy on November 1, 2006 at 1:07 AM

Can I be the first to say “BOO Freakin hoo” to Stark on this thread?

Happy Halloween, All.

tickleddragon on November 1, 2006 at 1:24 AM

If someone had run up to Webb like that he would have just turned them upside down and put their penis in his mouth.

Scot on November 1, 2006 at 1:36 AM

Volunteer to get out the Vote!!!

sonnyspats1 on November 1, 2006 at 2:26 AM

Stark deserved what he received, at the minimum, and should have been detained by the police.

As has been noted in this thread, a man with a backpack trying to force a face-to-face confrontation with a United States Senator must be considered a potential assassin.

As it was, he was allowed to get too close to a United States Senator while wearing a backpack that could have held a suicide bomb. HAD HE BEEN A SUICIDE BOMBER, Allen (and anybody standing near him) would have been killed.

The left has a dangerously belligerant mindset, that has been growing more violent and dangerous since the 2000 election. In 2004, Democrats invaded at least 3 local Republican offices and trashed them, resulting in breaking the leg of a Republican staffer. They fired guns in at least two Republican offices, burgled at least 6 Republican offices, and vandalized Republican leased vehicles in Milwaukee.

THEY call it “righteous anger.” I call it being BROWNSHIRTED THUGS.

It’ll be interesting to see what Webb has to say and what spin the DNC will attempt.

georgej on November 1, 2006 at 3:49 AM

They tried to lead him away and he resisted. Not only should he have been put down on the ground, but he should’ve been arrested for disorderly conduct at the very least.

Upon another viewing of the video, I hereby modify my previous statement: Sen. Allen’s people were actually right on the money. They attempted to lead the protestor out of the building. He didn’t go down until he resisted and tripped. Not sure about the whole disorderly conduct thing (escorting him out of the building probably would have been enough. Making an ass of yourself shouldn’t be against the law) but I recalculate my score as ten for the Allen people and minus ten for me to remind myself to watch with a more discerning eye. Good call, dalewalt.

Militant Bibliophile on November 1, 2006 at 4:32 AM

ROFL!! Sweet!!

But they are so big and bad and awsome on the internet…

venmax on November 1, 2006 at 5:40 AM

He blogs at Kos?

Screw him.

LOL

Black Adam on November 1, 2006 at 6:27 AM

I think it would have been fun to see Stark carried out straddling a pole like that KKK candidate was in “Oh Brother Where Art Thou”. It certainly would have been appropriate.

.

GT on November 1, 2006 at 6:36 AM

“The action kinda reminds me of when Jack Ruby killed Lee Harvey Oswald.

The guy should have been taken down harder and much earlier given the fact that Allen is a sitting Senator and given the times in which we are living.”

So this event, that had a non fatal outcome, is a ‘reminder’ of an event with a fatal outcome that happened over forty years ago – and it is the times in which we live TODAY that warrant firmer action?

There’s irony in them there hills!

eminuu on November 1, 2006 at 7:16 AM

They should smack that bastard down again, just for laughs.

JackM on November 1, 2006 at 8:37 AM

Maybe this is a lesson for all those pundits that go alittle too far – for some people this is an election about things that go beyond a few sound bits from the 24 hour news beautaratzi

Maybe this isn’t a superficial gentlemanly showing with the Queensbury rules – it could be a passionate fight between those who want power and patriots preserving the union

Maybe

EricPWJohnson on November 1, 2006 at 8:59 AM

Why is it so much fun watching liberals get smacked around?

JackM on November 1, 2006 at 9:14 AM

There was some kind of event here? I must have missed it. All I saw was someone physically resisting being moved away, and get tackled for it. Clearly it wasn’t handled with the utmost of professionalism but, I fail to see how there was anything inappropriate done in the attempt to remove him though.

aelhues on November 1, 2006 at 9:16 AM

I’ve never heard of a terrorist or suicide bomber heckling and shouting questions at a Senator before trying to kill him, they usually try to maintain a low profile. I think it had to be clear to Allen’s staff this guy was just some liberal ass trying to disrupt the event. Although according to many of you here there is little distinction and the fact that he is a liberal means he hates America, hates our troops, supports the “freedom fighters,” and just can’t wait until the U.S. becomes a Islamic theocracy.

Either way though it was a pretty brilliant stunt. Democrats have been trying to portray Allen as a racist, woman-hating, redneck, mean-spirited bully the whole campaign. What better way to get that point across than have his campaign staff beat you down in front of a camera. If this Stark guy was really smart he would have hired a black woman to do the dirty work…imagine how that would have looked.

JaHerer22 on November 1, 2006 at 9:34 AM

How do they know the guy didn’t have some kind of a weapon? Maybe these nuts should take their aggression out at the gym, and stop acting like girly-men!

budorob on November 1, 2006 at 9:53 AM

Yet another brilliant Democrat working really, really hard to get a Republican elected.

Democrats are like criminals – we should all thank God that both are generally pretty dumb.

Who EXACTLY do they think independents and moderates will be more likely to vote for when they see this kind of thing?

Professor Blather on November 1, 2006 at 10:13 AM

Watch the Dhimmis turn DC into Oaxaca if they don’t as well as expected in the elections.

Connie on November 1, 2006 at 10:54 AM

Stark was obviously trying to get the “Allen spat on his wife” story into the news – and he succeeded.

That said… “He got his ass kicked by an old fat white guy” is true, and made me LMAO. I will vote for Allen just because the old fat white guys on his staff are badasses!

Lehuster on November 1, 2006 at 11:45 AM

“The action kinda reminds me of when Jack Ruby killed Lee Harvey Oswald.

The guy should have been taken down harder and much earlier given the fact that Allen is a sitting Senator and given the times in which we are living.”

So this event, that had a non fatal outcome, is a ‘reminder’ of an event with a fatal outcome that happened over forty years ago – and it is the times in which we live TODAY that warrant firmer action?

There’s irony in them there hills!

eminuu on November 1, 2006 at 7:16 AM

No irony in any hills, just a whole lot of stupidity sitting in front of your computer. But I’ll try to dumb it down to a level that you and your fellow idiot JaHerer22 can understand–if that’s even possible. George Allen is a sitting U.S. Senator, one of only 100 members of the upper house of the nation’s highest legislative body. That office automatically makes him a target for terrorists, nutjobs (Democratic or otherwise), or anybody else who happens to decide that taking him out would be a good idea. The same is true from any other senior government official. Consequently he needs to have security that maintains positive control over his surroundings while remaining flexible enough for him to conduct public business. Apparently the no doubt extensive list of your shortcomings includes a lack of historical background, or you wouldn’t mock more knowledgeable people who reference Jack Ruby, or Sirhan Sirhan, or any other assassin who was permitted to get too close and capitalized on the opportunity. And it doesn’t matter whether a successful attack happened forty years ago or last week if you can learn something useful from it that will help prevent the next one. Bottom line, protecting the Senator is the priority, not worrying about hurting the feelings of some attention-whoring leftist moron. Kick his ass hard, and maybe the next one will think twice before acting like a retard. Then again, acting like retards is what you people do.

ReubenJCogburn on November 1, 2006 at 12:26 PM

Reuben,
I see my name next to the word idiot at the top of your post, get excited, and then go through the trouble of reading your crazy little rant only to find you don’t address anything I said in my post. For future reference, if you are going to insult me, at least address my comments somewhere in your drivel. I’ll never get back those two minutes of my life I wasted reading your post.

JaHerer22 on November 1, 2006 at 1:35 PM

Reuben,
I see my name next to the word idiot at the top of your post, get excited, and then go through the trouble of reading your crazy little rant only to find you don’t address anything I said in my post. For future reference, if you are going to insult me, at least address my comments somewhere in your drivel. I’ll never get back those two minutes of my life I wasted reading your post.

JaHerer22 on November 1, 2006 at 1:35 PM

Sorry, these are just generally idiotic liberal comments–nothing at all unique or original here:

I’ve never heard of a terrorist or suicide bomber heckling and shouting questions at a Senator before trying to kill him, they usually try to maintain a low profile. I think it had to be clear to Allen’s staff this guy was just some liberal ass trying to disrupt the event. Although according to many of you here there is little distinction and the fact that he is a liberal means he hates America, hates our troops, supports the “freedom fighters,” and just can’t wait until the U.S. becomes a Islamic theocracy.

Either way though it was a pretty brilliant stunt. Democrats have been trying to portray Allen as a racist, woman-hating, redneck, mean-spirited bully the whole campaign. What better way to get that point across than have his campaign staff beat you down in front of a camera. If this Stark guy was really smart he would have hired a black woman to do the dirty work…imagine how that would have looked.

JaHerer22 on November 1, 2006 at 9:34 AM

And you called my words ranting? That’s ironic. And if two minutes of your life is all that being such an obnoxious dumbass ever costs you, then you are one lucky SOB.

ReubenJCogburn on November 1, 2006 at 1:55 PM

Did I hear him say “if the hotel asked me to leave I would leave”?, what an idiot. Notice how many incidents like this (Columbia U., Berkely, etc.) are caused by the “left wing free speech” group, and how many incidents are caused by the right wing “hate groups”. This is why people like Kirsten Powers, Tammy Bruce, Juan Williams, Lieberman etc. are taking a second look at who they are supporting or are beinning to move left (like black leaders for Steele). The left wing are angry, violent, people…luckily they are wimps.

right2bright on November 1, 2006 at 6:18 PM

I’ve never heard of a terrorist or suicide bomber heckling and shouting questions at a Senator before trying to kill him, they usually try to maintain a low profile.

So anyone who approaches a senator or congressman that is heckling and shouting is okay and let him in? That is a unique position on profiling, I will pass that on to the NSA, FBI and other agency’s that protect.
You are very intelligent, I can tell.

right2bright on November 1, 2006 at 6:25 PM

There’s irony in them there hills!

eminuu on November 1, 2006 at 7:16 AM

Apparantly my statement is a little too ‘nuanced’ for you.

View a video of the LHO assasination by Ruby right next to the above video of the and you MIGHT be able to figure out my meaning.

LegendHasIt on November 1, 2006 at 6:34 PM

A few days ago Michelle was pretty hard on Allen and his campaign for dredging up the contents of Webb’s books of fiction and making those contents an issue. I had some reservations about her position, but I gave her the benefit of the doubt. I’d be interested in hearing what she has to say about this little “Unhinged” episode, if anything.

CyberCipher on November 1, 2006 at 6:49 PM

Politics is a full contact sport. Too bad the koskid isn’t in jail for several reasons.

tormod on November 2, 2006 at 10:08 AM

This wasn’t about a heckler.

This was about a very nice backpack that a slightly confused gray-haired man wanted to “borrow” from an unsuspecting Canadian tourist.

It happens. The moral here is never use your good backpack while traveling.

Fargus on November 2, 2006 at 12:50 PM

Did anyone else notice that he went down pretty slowly. I know the glass slowed him down some, but even so, it wasn’t a “you’re going down, son” body slam.

Instead it reminded me of how my 15 year old son goes down when we’re roughhousing. He’s too big for me to keep him from falling, but I can slow him down so that he doesn’t get hurt.

I got the same impression from this video. Allen’s guys where just trying to move him out of the area. For some reason, he started going down, and not because Allen’s guys wanted to put him down. Instead, they tried to control his fall so that he wouldn’t get hurt. Then they helped him back up and continued him on his way.

If he had tried the same thing with a Secret Service detail he probably would have either found himself in an armlock or put on the ground HARD far earlier in the incident. It would have been justified on pure security issues alone.

EWTHeckman on November 2, 2006 at 2:01 PM

Please….please….please…..any of you liberals, Kuznuts, left wingers, Al Franken, et. al. that would love to throw this devoted, legitimate American to the floor, please, please, please try.

I would love to have been there….I am almost sexually aroused at the thought of putting an East Texas ass whipping on the likes of this Kuz scumbag attempting to make a scene in an otherwise orderly proceeding.

I recall vividly the Berkeley incident a couple of years ago involving Michelle….tough guy liberals wanting to threaten this pretty, yet small and unthreatening, conservative female. Let them “attack” me. Tell them to bring their friends (and a current medical insurance card).

Please. There will be nine colors of dog dung where a liberal used to be…..

Spider Dan on November 2, 2006 at 11:27 PM