Video: O’Reilly on Oprah: Bill takes on military hater
posted at 12:20 am on October 29, 2006 by Ian
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Here’s a very small taste of the shrieking Bill O’Reilly endured on Oprah yesterday. America-bashing? Check. Military-bashing? Check. Halliburton-bashing? Check. It was all there but the Bush=Hitler button.
More on O’Reilly’s appearance here. Can MM and KP be far behind?
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The saddest part was that Bill O’Reilly didn’t adequately slam her down.
razorgator on October 29, 2006 at 12:22 AM
What? No “YOU’RE WRONG!” at the end?
DwnSouthJukin on October 29, 2006 at 12:26 AM
Can you say waste of perfectly good oxygen…
BadBrad on October 29, 2006 at 12:27 AM
I’d like to see the rest of this.
Vincenzo on October 29, 2006 at 12:38 AM
Oops, thanks. I just added it. ;)
Oprah’s website has some information on it, but from what I saw it’s just pictures and not video.
Ian on October 29, 2006 at 12:43 AM
Me too - I would have liked to see more. But thanks for posting it.
Notice how people w ith Bush Derangement Syndrome seem to roll their eyes back as the hatred spews from their lips.
It’s fascinating and sad….
Dr. Gecko on October 29, 2006 at 12:44 AM
If he had, do you think it would have aired?
Oprah has editors, after all.
Ugly on October 29, 2006 at 12:49 AM
And the jihadists laugh and laugh and laugh, sharpening their knives for such wasted heads as this hopeless, heckling harridan.
Defending the “no bad guys in Iraq” who took Nick Berg and made him into a two-part poster boy for Islamofascism International.
Chimpy McBushitlter is the real problem.
Just as FDR was the real problem in WW II.
Keep clipping those newspapers, ma’am. They’ll make nice wrapping material for your nihilistic noggin once the unopposed, unrecognized jihad marches into town.
profitsbeard on October 29, 2006 at 12:49 AM
For those of you that would like the rest of it…. you can read most of it
Maxx on October 29, 2006 at 12:55 AM
Hummm…. my link didn’t work again, but anyway, you can read most of it here:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/10/27/153334.shtml
Maxx on October 29, 2006 at 12:57 AM
Typical, and frankly not unexpected. Kudos to Bill for knowingly walking into that minefield, although I doubt that one liberal mind was changed. They are always right, of course.
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 12:59 AM
Ogre, I mean Oprah, wants to fly the banner of victimhood while she counts her untold fortune. I, for one, just am not going to buy it. Can you say HORSEFEATHERS?
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 1:04 AM
Too bad that they didn’t let Oprah’s audience screen “Obsession…” before O’Reilly’s spot. Imagine that!
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 1:11 AM
Speaking of loonies, maybe someone out there with a psychology degree can back me up on this. I have come to notice that unstable people and/or those with emotional problems tend to stretch their eyes wide open when angry, whereas more stable individuals react by moving their eyebrows down, which most would relate to anger.
Ask anyone to draw an angry face, and without exception, they will draw a face with the eyebrows down towards the bridge of the nose. No one would draw a face with wide stretched eyes to denote anger.
Apply my layman’s theory to the people in your life, and others and see if it doesn’t pan out. It applies to virtually every liberal I’ve ever met. Wide eyed moonbats all.
Indy Mark on October 29, 2006 at 1:17 AM
I did catch this episode of Oprah (one of the few times I’ve seen her show). Bill was rather reserved although he held his ground as usual. The “shrieker” was roundly condemned in usual “Bill” style as he told her she was quoting far-left talking points. One audience member complained how polarizing Bill made the debate and even noted that Bill was calmer than usual although she commented how she was “shaking” over what she perceived as tension in the room. Bill made the point very clear that Americans need to wake up and realize there is a very real battle going on and people need to take sides. The liberals in the crowd were typical in their anti-Bush comments. I have to agree with Bill: there is a war of ideology’s going on in the world. Americans have to wake up to this. Of course the debate is polarizing because there are still folks out there who do not understand the dangers we confront. You only have to look at what is happening in Europe today to realize the same thing COULD happen in the US if we don’t start taking this Islamofascism seriously and do something to combat it. This is not the time for political correctness, and the debate WILL be uncomfortable as we figure out the best ways in which to combat this.
thedecider on October 29, 2006 at 1:23 AM
Better watch out, Indy Mark. In some of our opponents’ eyes, that could very well be considered “hate speech.” How dare you marginalise their “right” to have their eyes in the moonbat position. You are obviously a bigot.
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 1:25 AM
One more thing to my post: I don’t believe the Republicans necessarily have the best plan. Open and honest debat is the key here. We need open-minded representatives in the House and Senate to debate this without the usual partisan politics. Unfortunately, I fear that will not happen without, yet another catastrophy in our nation.
thedecider on October 29, 2006 at 1:27 AM
thedecider, You are, in my best estimation,unfortunately, correct. It’s time to put our future first and politics a distant second, although I don’t see that happening anytime soon. Still, I believe, in this election cycle, that Repuplicans, as a rule, will stand a better chance of combatting this threat. It’s gonna take ALL of us before this is done, though.
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 1:32 AM
To hillbillyjim: My promise to you is that I will go vote for the candidate I know will fight for my country. If you will promise the same (along with every other patriot reading this blog) WE THE PEOPLE will fight - through our vote - to protect our country. I can’t stress enough the importance of this upcoming election.
thedecider on October 29, 2006 at 1:44 AM
thedecider - I am not as optimistic as you.
To borrow from Jeff Snyder, “We are a nation of cowards and shirkers”. Everything whacked in this country only happens because its citizens let it happen.
Islamobarbarians could fly jets into buildings or fighting in the streets could erupt tomorrow, and everyone will sit around and continue to wonder “why they hate us so much”.
Meanwhile, the Right will sit around and try to determine how the jizzya will affect their margins, and the Left will be looking forward to experience and share Islamic culture.
AZ_Redneck on October 29, 2006 at 1:48 AM
To the decider: I always have, and always will, vote my concience, whether or not it goes against my party affiliation (which more and more means less and less). That’s all we can ask of all thinking Americans. God bless you and yours
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 1:51 AM
I understand your point of view AZ_Redneck but I can’t afford to lose my optimism. I understand many Americans tend to be complacent and allow bad things to happen. Our history is replete with this example from the rise of Nazi Germany and the attack at Pearl Harbor to the Islamofascism we face today - we don’t want to care about what’s happening “over there”. We just want to watch our kids play soccer, go see the latest Hollywood blockbuster, or whatever. The truth is we live in a different world today and too many people have not woken up to this fact. In the end, I believe my fellow countrymen will rise to this occasion as they have every other that came before. As Americans, we sometimes need a slap in the face but we DO come around, and we will this time too.
thedecider on October 29, 2006 at 1:57 AM
I feel that I misspoke in my last post when I said: “That’s all we can ask of all thinking Americans.” Upon reflection, it is the least. I feel that every American who takes it upon him/herself to vote should do no less than research to the best of their abilities who and what they are voting for or against. I know that this is a pipe dream, but wouldn’t it be F-ing fantastic if even a portion of the electorate knew what the hell they were voting for?
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 2:00 AM
I agree, it would have been better to see Bill truly slam her. I only caught the second half of the show because I forgot to DVR it, but I know someone who taped it (what’s a tape, right?) so I’ll be catching it.
Anyway, the problem I have is when Bill defends the “bad intel” argument by simply asking “were Colin Powell and George Tenet lying then too?”. He, and everyone else needs to say “were both Clintons, Gore, Albright, Rockefeller, Kerry, Kennedy, Scooby Doo, and Chunk from Goonies lying for the 12 years leading up to war in Iraq? Was Bill Clinton lying when he made a stronger case before attacking Iraq in Dec. 1998, shortly after making regime change our policy on Iraq?!?!?!?”
What’s really sad is it will probably be years before we reveal that the WMDs were actually there. The couple congressmen who I thought might push forward on this have pussied out… Perhaps it’s just because it’s too touchy before election season to insist that the WMDs were there when it’s such an unpopular idea. But I’m more pissed off about this than the border. Revealing that the WMDs were there may not gain us many of allies in name only in the first place, but it further justifies our action and gives us the authority to give the finger to all these liars.
RightWinged on October 29, 2006 at 2:07 AM
Rightwinged–You are absolutely correct. Who needs Oprah’s audience to approve the actions of the U.S. Military anyway? It is probably true that WMDs will be found to either have been there or have been spirited out to Syria (funny we haven’t heard about them), or to Iran (less likely given the ‘Love’ between Saddam and Tehran). Hell, it doesn’t matter anyway; these people en masse declared war on us on Sept. 11, 2001. They all danced in the streets, rejoicing at our pain and sorrow. They have literally “hordes” in training now on how best to hurt us. How much does it take for this country to wake up? I pray that we wise up before that question is answered. The best defense is a good offense. COME ON, PEOPLE!! WAKE THE *e&( UP!!! Please!?
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 2:22 AM
You know RightWinged, I think the WMD argument is too little too late. I agree it would provide some degree of satisfaction to prove these weopons existed, but the rest of the world has moved on. The war in Iraq has not been handled in the best way and THAT will continue to be the argument even if clarity around WMD’s could be established.
thedecider on October 29, 2006 at 2:24 AM
thedecider - Don’t get me wrong, I am not on Prozac. :-) Life at present is too good.
My concern is that too many Americans have abdicated their responsibility of self government, do not know what it is to be free any longer, and look to the government for salvation. When individuality is defined by the most prolific piercing and pornography becomes freedom of expression, the shallowness of our souls is revealed.
I truly would like to be proven wrong, but presently I do not see the resolve from the “Greatest Generation” in the present. I think the next five years in this country will be very tellingut. In the meantime, I will be keeping my powder dry - slavery is not in my, or my family’s, agenda.
AZ_Redneck on October 29, 2006 at 2:35 AM
thedecider—-that argument still does not negate the fact that THESE PEOPLE WANT TO KILL US. From one of your posts, I think you will agree that we cannot lay down in this fight. Does it matter at what point Saddam hid, or got rid of, or more likely, SOLD, his chemical and biological stores? You seem to be ambigious about this debate, yet there is only one answer. Resolute opposition to militant Islam in all it’s forms. I don’t care what anyone’s religious beliefs are, until they are teaching their kids to kill my kids and anyone who looks like them. It is tiresome to have to repeat the same obvious truth over and over to people who should be on OUR SIDE. Make no mistake, pacifist lib’s. You’ll be forced to make a choice too, if we let these wannabe world domination freak bastards go unchecked. WWHHEEEEWW!!! Enough from the hillbilly corner.
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 2:39 AM
You and I are on the same page, AZ_Redneck. I fully understand your point of view in this comment alone:
I totally agree with you! God save us!
thedecider on October 29, 2006 at 2:43 AM
Glad you agree hillbillyjim.. I’m just pissed though, because I think there are a number of people who know about it, and I’m not sure why they aren’t saying anything. There’s a theory that the administration is keeping their mouth shut because Russia was involved in Iraq’s WMD program and we’re trying to keep them as “friends” to deal with Iran. I say fu** Russia. Would that be surprising to anyone, given that it was revealed in that tiny document dump (of the millions captured, yet to be translated) that Saddam was hiding Russian and Turkish scientists from the UN in the lead up to the war. Anyway, apparenly Hoekstra and Santorum have knowledge of this stuff to. I guess the Prez could be making them shut up too, but again it pisses me off all the way around.
On an interesting side note, I find it funny that the truthers who insanely think that Bush and friends could have pulled off 9/11 which would require the knowledge of thousands of people and no one has squeeled, yet they don’t think that Bush’s illuminati could have planted WMDs 6000 miles away in Iraq to justify the war? Same goes for Teddy K… Why would Bush have concocted this war for political gain? Has it helped him politically? No. It’s actually the sole reason that the GOP may lose power in one or both houses next week. This war has been only negative politically.
Anyway, back to what this woman said… (by the way, she seemed to have a few screws loose and I predict the next time we’ll see her is on the news when animal control comes to clean out the 60 cats she has living in filth in her run down hom. Just seems like the type, but I could be wrong).
But anyway, she started talking about “Bush’s conservative estimate” of 30k dead Iraqis. Not only does she not consider how many are (were) terrorists, and the fact that as far as we can tell the majority of the innocents were killed by the terrorists. This is why I hate effing headlines. Idiots like this see that number and think “OMG! We’ve killed 30,000 innocent Iraqis!” But being an idiot, sadly, doesn’t stop them from voting. Her vote will cancel out one of your votes folks. And there are millions more where she came from. No time to “send a message” to the GOP about the border.
Anyway, what was this basketcase saying about reading it in the paper? “I have been clipping….(Makes scissors motion with hands)….. My husband is here!”
WTF? Seriously, what the hell does her husband have to do with it? Was her next line going to be - “He can vouch for the fact that I’ve been clipping things out of the paper?” And even if that was the next line (which would be a level of idiotic I’m not sure how to describe), what does clipping articles out of the paper have to do with anything? If you think “the paper” is a reliable source, end it on “I read it in the paper!” She is clearly out of her mind.
And by the way cat lady, if you happen to be reading this… if we were truly bombing cities, the way a war should be fought, we wouldn’t be losing men and women every day. We’re only having so much trouble because we’re trying to fight this thing on the nice. I could go on, but you’re clearly too detached from reality for it to matter… but O’Reilly nailed it, you’ve taken all this crap off the far left web sites, and frankly, you’re an effing idiot. Your best bet is to claim insanity.
RightWinged on October 29, 2006 at 2:43 AM
Open question: What IS the BEST way that the war in Iraq could have been handled? I wish I could decide the answer to that connundrum.
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 2:46 AM
Please clarify what the “best way” means. I’m just an ol’ dumbass country boy
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 2:54 AM
Damn it, my last reply, a lenghty one, didn’t show up. Hey Ian or AP, is my comment sitting up in the spam filter again for some reason?
Anyway, it was about that lady specifically…
I respectfully disagree thedecider. I’m not that concerned about “the world” having moved on or not, because they hate us either way and that would never change. But can you imagine Bush and the GOP’s poll numbers in this country if WMDs had been found? Despite the toughness of the war, which is only the result of us trying to fight it on the nice rather than bombing the shit out of them, we could simply say “we got the WMDs before they got in to the hands of terrorists” (which I fear some may have now), and that’s the end of the discussion.
I don’t know what the rest of the world thinks, but how many times a week do you see/hear liberals on cable news shows continue to say “bush lied” or “Bush mislead on WMDs” or “war under false pretenses”. I hear it probably 20+ times a week… literally. Hindsight is 20/20 and the everyone including “the world” would have to understand that, and that there are mistakes in conduct of war, but the main criticism remains justification. Even though any thoughtful person can understand the justifications beyond WMDs, but they are a limited few. If justification is reestablished, of course most Europeans are still going to hate us, but Americans and our few friends can feel confident moving forward and giving a big F you to those attempting to undermine us. We can move forward having a better idea of who in the world are our friends and who aren’t.
Alright, I’m going to stop because for some reason my lengthy comments always don’t show up, and then pop up hours later for some reason.
RightWinged on October 29, 2006 at 2:54 AM
I think that’s what I’ll vote for on election day: CLARITY and CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS. By God, that’ll show those Jihadi bastards.
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 2:56 AM
AMEN to you, sir, Mr. RightWinged. What you said!!
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 3:01 AM
You ask a great question hillbillyjim. One I don’t think can be decided in our generation. We need oil from the middle east to maintain our economy and way of life. Will there ever be true and lasting peace in middle east? Not from an historical or biblical standpoint. All we can seem to do is maintain the status-quo. We prop-up undesirable tyrants to keep the oil cheap and flowing. As for Iraq: we got rid of a horrible tyrant and his children. Certainly we did that country (and the region) a favor by introducing a “different” form of government, but will it succeed? What could have been done differently to make this situation better? We know U.N. resolutions weren’t working, and the Oil-For-Food scheme turned out to be scandalous. How do you remove one form of government and introduce a completely new one to people who don’t know how to govern themselves? I’ve heard comparisons between Iraq and the beginnings of our own country, but honestly, these are different situations, and different times. I too wish I could determine the best process for the Iraq war but I think it will take future historians to determine this one. Right now, I want us to figure out an exit strategy that benefits Iraq
thedecider on October 29, 2006 at 3:04 AM
and the rest of the world.
thedecider on October 29, 2006 at 3:05 AM
Why is Bill O’Rielly acting so mean “YOUR WRONG”! Its like hes trying to tell us something for our own good. Its like he cares enough to warn us we’re a nation in trouble. He keeps saying stuff like take a look at Europe and how they squandered there morals and existance. I will say this he is cock sure of himself. Mabey there is something in what he’s saying. Ya think?
sonnyspats1 on October 29, 2006 at 3:07 AM
In other words, you don’t really know whether or not that this very dicey situation could have been “handled in the best way” …..Hmmmmm?
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 3:10 AM
RightWinged, you’re absolutely right. The poll numbers would look much better today if WMD’s had been found. I believe they were there! We know Saddam used them against his own people. That, alone, is proof that he had them at some point. But it’s the debate, itself, that has moved on. The world - wanting to shun responsiblity for the oil-for-food scandals or political problems at home - has moved on from this debate. If we could provide documents signed by Saddam, himself, showing these weopons existed and were moved to anther country (or whatever) it wouldn’t make any difference. It only serves to satisfy those of us who know they were at some point. We need to change the dialogue. We must re-frame the debate. Move on from “why” we went to Iraq and on to the bigger picture - the world-wide struggle against global terrorism and Islamofascism.
thedecider on October 29, 2006 at 3:15 AM
sonnyspats1 You better believe it. Europe as we know it will not be a reality for very long unless the various leaders of the various countries decide to stand up and tell their people that some form of national identity is worth something. The Multi-Culti crowd is telling all of Europe; Let’s just all get along. Yet, when obviously Muslim led, and as a matter of fact, Muslim period, so called youth gangs over-run Paris and the cities of Le France, all they do is say “Well, we will put more money in the projects.” Do they crack down on them? NO. Do they propose any legislation to keep their own culture alive? Again, NO. Yes, there is something there to “what Bill said”……..Absolutely.
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 3:25 AM
Right now, I want us to figure out an exit strategy that benefits Iraq
thedecider on October 29, 2006 at 3:04 AM
I think there could be another scenario playing out here. What were the recomondations from the recent briefing the President had with General Casey and others. Wasn’t there a concensis we needed more troups by at least one General? Why has a new carrier task force arrived in the gulf this week? That makes three carriers. Must be crowded. I think we might be going for the full monty soon. Iran,Syria and anybody who interferes. Thatincludes Russia, China and Pakistan.. NOOK the KOOKs
sonnyspats1 on October 29, 2006 at 3:30 AM
I’ve read through this thread and appreciate the effort at being non-partisan, but the sad truth is democrats don’t have what it takes to fight the war on terror. They just don’t. That woman in the clip is very represantive of the democrat party. Democrats think we are the problem and everything will be fine if we just quit stirring up the hornets nest. It’s also important to remember that a lot is going on in afghanistan and iraq that we here in america don’t know about because the media is only concerned with returning the democrats to power. We’re dealing with a brutal enemy. I could give you dozens of links to show how brutal the enemy is, but i’m pretty sure you guys here don’t need reminding. Republicans recognize the brutality of the enemy, democrats don’t.
Scot on October 29, 2006 at 3:31 AM
I just completely disagree thedecider. We gain back the moral authority (for lack of a better term) with WMDs. With the exception of the extreme left (which is now 25-35@) American would be able to say screw the UN and all these “allies”, we were right, end of story. And then we’d have the support of our own people and our few TRUE allies for future endeavors. It’s that simple. I don’t give a shit what Russia or France think. They are shitty countries and they’ll always hate us. But how much more authority would us, England, Australia, etc. have if we have the WMD? Next time something comes up and they say “hey, let’s spend 15 years in the UN security council before we do anything” we can say “suck my diplomats” (By the way, I just came up with calling them “diplomats” as I type this.. give credit where it’s do when you inevitably use it…lol).
RightWinged on October 29, 2006 at 3:35 AM
by the way, I have no idea what that weird link is in my last comment
RightWinged on October 29, 2006 at 3:36 AM
The fact of the matter is, Scot, that we’ve got to either win this thing, or go and buy prayer rugs and cheap copies of the Koran (Qu’ran whatever the f#$% they’re callin’ it today). Me, I’ve had two hip replacements and several lumbar discectomies, so I don’t see me bowing down anytime soon. There is not an option. These people want us DEAD. I know from your posts that you are probably as befuddled as I am that people don’t understand this. Keep sending the cool links.
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 3:40 AM
LOL…I know…who could honestly care about the opinions of France and Russia? Bit-players on the world stage, and both over-run with jihadists. Don’t get me wrong; I’m not at all concerned about what the world thinks of the U.S. That is an irrelevant point as it should be. The U.N. will never have a sufficient answer to the problems we face.
thedecider on October 29, 2006 at 3:41 AM
That weird link to the twilight zone is a sign from the Area 51 gods of war and mayonnaise.
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 3:42 AM
Laugh, people, laugh,….Hell it’s about all we’ve got to laugh about….wonder if there’s a market for AREA 51 MAYONNAISE.
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 3:46 AM
hillbillyjim What if the jihad rage boys were just gonna be the enforcers in a globalization effort and a certain elite few were planning to rule over them. Like the womens movement linked to the civil rights movement and uses the blacks to intimidate the directory assistant dudes from san francisco
sonnyspats1 on October 29, 2006 at 3:48 AM
I’ll bet Barbara St**sand and Madonna would start a bidding war.
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 3:48 AM
Well that’s when I’ll be lookin’ for one of those hard-to get seats on the shuttle to Mars.
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 3:50 AM
OMIGOD he invoked the directory assista…..aaaaaagghhhh!!!
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 3:51 AM
To answer all comments: I believe Islamofascism is as serious a problem this world has faced since the rise of Nazi Germany. I would like for this nation to go beyond the discussion of Iraq (WMD’s, etc…) to talk about the very serious threat to Western-style democracies in general. If the old saying is true, that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it, then, as the world’s only remaining superpower, let’s start talking about the real threats facing the world - which will require rising above the current debates about Iraq and what the Bush administration shoulda, coulda, woulda, and on to what we’re really facing with these jihadists who depise our form of government and way of life. This debate is so much bigger than Bush, Gitmo, or Iraq.
thedecider on October 29, 2006 at 3:53 AM
To answer all comments: I believe Islamofascism is as serious a problem this world has faced since the rise of Nazi Germany. I would like for this nation to go beyond the discussion of Iraq (WMD’s, etc…) to talk about the very serious threat to Western-style democracies in general. If the old saying is true, that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it, then, as the world’s only remaining superpower, let’s start talking about the real threats facing the world - which will require rising above the current debates about Iraq and what the Bush administration shoulda, coulda, woulda, and on to what we’re really facing with these jihadists who depise our form of government and way of life. This debate is so much bigger than Bush, Gitmo, or Iraq.
thedecider on October 29, 2006 at 3:53 AM
I couldn’t agree more. That is the whole thing in a nutshell. All kidding aside, nicely said, thedecider. hillbillyjim told you that, for what it’s worth.
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 3:58 AM
Whoa, Bill, when did you start to understand?
Christoph on October 29, 2006 at 3:59 AM
Uh… I stepped aside for a while, and I’m now lost…. something about mayonnaise and Area 51… Anyway, just wanted to remind folks to switch your clocks back. I wrote a brief reminder for earlier risers at my blog, and noted that Bush shouldn’t get credit for the extra hour of sleep, but when spring rolls around we better be ready to blast him for taking that hour of sleep away!
RightWinged on October 29, 2006 at 4:06 AM
Oh by the way, if anyone is interested, my comment that didn’t show up for a while has now all of a sudden… if interested, it’s mainly about this idiotic woman in the video… scroll up and look for this - “RightWinged on October 29, 2006 at 2:43 AM”
RightWinged on October 29, 2006 at 4:07 AM
the Koran (Qu’ran whatever the f#$% they’re callin’ it today
HB JIM I spell it corian! yeah it seems like we got a real threat for sure. It could be playing soon in a theater near you! Hey my mother was born in England and went through years of food rationing and not to mention dog fights between spitfires and meserscmits in the pastures behind her house. Not to leave out the battle of brittan and the normandy invasion. She spoke of air raids and bomb shelters.I guess the Multi-Culti and lack of morals got to the core of their society, and weakened them.
sonnyspats1 on October 29, 2006 at 4:11 AM
Yes ok threats ! The Clintons sold or gave access to nuclear intelligence to China China sold it to Pakistan and Iran. Russia has made a sale to Iran worth Billions to provide reactors to them. Iran is in control of the hezzbos and Syria is a player in rearming the hezbos which they already have done since the war this summer. Iran is goin for Isreal. Isreal has nukes they are gonna take out Iran nuclear capability,probly with conventional weapons. if Russia or China intervene the US will respond ,which could lead to nuclear war. you do the math .
sonnyspats1 on October 29, 2006 at 4:26 AM
Your point being…..
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 4:31 AM
Why is Bill O’Rielly acting so mean “YOUR WRONG”! Its like
sonnyspats1 on October 29, 2006 at 3:07 AM U askt I ANSRD
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 4:39 AM
Don’t ask the damn question if you don’t want to be answered. Thank you for you attention. I think what we have here is a major lack of communication, as I believe we’re on the same page on most of these issues. Doesn’t matter if we are or are not, we should be able to have an enlightened, and sometimes even fun and humorous, debate about said issues. If I offended you in any way, then duck the next time you see me coming. sinecerely, ……
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 4:44 AM
sincerely, oh spelling gods please forgive
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 4:46 AM
Well, folks, I think that I have taken up more than my amount of space here. It was unintended, but then, I’m not one to go backwards just because someone challenges my ideas. Thanks, all, for your patience with me, as I am just learning this computer and ‘blog stuff. I don’t mean to rub anyone the wrong way; however, I’ll never back off from something that I believe to be right. See ya in them there funny papers.
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 4:55 AM
I truly meant to be gone from here and quit bothering you folks, but I was scanning through the thread and I figured that I might as well own up to the Area 51 deal. R.W.ed, you said:
and then I just “winged” it, so to speak. No harm intended, just tryin’ to lighten’ it up a li’l.
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 5:32 AM
haha, oh I gotcha HBJ. I just didn’t tie your comment to mine (didn’t realize it was a reply) so I had no idea what you were talking about. Just thought it was a general random comment, relating to some joke I didn’t get. I see now that you were talking to me.
RightWinged on October 29, 2006 at 6:01 AM
No biggie, RWed, just tryin’ to inject a little bitta humor into a not-so-funny debate. I know, Mayo?? Still don’t know where that came from myself, but still a little bit funny. Hell, I even laughed at myself! Keep up the good work; fight the good fight, and God Bless Mayonnaise.
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 6:11 AM
HB JIM hay buddy I was over watching the Obsession series
sonnyspats1 on October 29, 2006 at 6:17 AM
HBJ TMy point being #1 O’Reilly is right about his culture warrior Traditional Values theory #2 This is a bad time to engage in multi-cultiism because these people are dividing the country if only with their language barrier and non assimulation. England was steadfast for many hundreds of years and is being undun from divisions within.
sonnyspats1 on October 29, 2006 at 6:25 AM
On a serious note, this is serious stuff. Just watching “Jihad Watch” and seeing that excellent interview with MM and Mr. Steyn should be enough for anyone viewing to take notice, and to tell everyone that they know what we’re up against. This is a VERY serious issue; still, I just have to stick a little bit of har-de-har in there, just to keep from beating my head against the wall at the blindness and willingness to blind one’s self to the reality of this situation, which is growing every day closer to being what the media so lovingly calls a “desparate situation.” Of course, they have a million reasons for this, most of which blame us, but be that as it may, I’m always gonna crack wise when I can, even if it’s just an outlet for my frustration at our own inadequate maneuvers, well intentioned or not. We’ve really got to “stay the course” as far as end goals, even if it’s not popular to say so in an election cycle. Here I go again….have a great Sunday…..
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 6:33 AM
sonnyspats1: I agree with all of those points, and look forward to future debates, agreements, disagreements, etc. That’s what’s so cool about this little haven in the crazy blogosphere. We can raise immortal hell with each other, and never cross that line. And I know you’ll still respect me in the morning!!
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 6:38 AM
The discussion of WMD’s, Al Queda, Saddam Hussien, Bush lied, etc… Doesn’t mean a damn thing..
We must find a way for, at least most of us, to focus on the enemy. The enemy is Islamofascism. These people want us dead. Never forget their goal, DEAD.
The war in Iraq is about killing that enemy. It’s just the beginning, the end is a long long way off. Most of Europe is lost, it’s so csught in it’s multicultarlism it’s deaf, dumb and blind. Like it or not the time will come, very soon I believe, when America is gonna have to step up and save the world again. I pray we can act before something catastrophic happens. I hate to sound negative, please consider me a realist. It will come and just as Bill said in his closing statement.
“Because once united, nobody’s gonna beat America.”
Unite America, Unite
Take care all
Bogeyfre on October 29, 2006 at 6:40 AM
Catch y’all later. Big bucket of kudos to AP for linking that Obsession flick….Shatteringly shattering. Must see for everyone, regardless of their affiliation. Later.
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 6:41 AM
P.S. time stamps on posts are now an hour ahead…..
hillbillyjim on October 29, 2006 at 6:49 AM
Wife has Oprah on permanent DVR record so i watched the whole show with her. Must have paused it several times to give her the backround on a lot of the comments (as her primary news source is people and oprah). By the end of the show I asked her several basic questions to which she reponded in the traditionalist side that Bill O has written about. I asked about some of her friends (who I know are way to the left) and we mentioned Bill O’s first point about parental notification for abortion in CA. The Mrs said the if she were at her ladies book club and asked, “what’s wrong with a parent being informed of their child’s abortion?” or “we are trying to do the right thing in Iraq”, that the women would probably kill her (my exageration).
Rich on October 29, 2006 at 7:49 AM
Need to wrap my head in ducktape to keep it from exploding.
What a loon!
Thank god the wife doesn’t watch Oprah. I can’t understand why Bill would of wanted to go on her show.
E L Frederick on October 29, 2006 at 7:59 AM
What you go on to say, about the important issue being fighting the enemy is dead on, but we can’t focus because of the division in the country and the fact that the left is of the mindset that we should have listened to Europe, etc. and that we shouldn’t be there. Revealing that the WMD were there may not bring anyone over to our side, but it will shut them up and allow us to move forward and keep our eye on the prize.
RightWinged on October 29, 2006 at 8:41 AM
I could not agree with you more.
Viper1 on October 29, 2006 at 8:57 AM
Ian,
If you get a chance, there was one libral lady who was on the verge of tears as Bill was lecturing her, There was an angry white guy who Bill labled as a Fox hater and this guy hed several opportunities to jump up and chime in, and the best was the black guy with the corn row braid who was defend Bill O points and seem to be a conservative.
I still like the question he now asks: Do you want America to win? Nothing like watching a person stammer over a yes/no question.
Rich on October 29, 2006 at 9:04 AM
You must be mistaken Rich. Black people aren’t allowed to be conservatives.
RightWinged on October 29, 2006 at 9:14 AM
C’mon, folks, she said she “read it in the paper”. That’s the absolute authority and how dare you fail to recognize that.
TexasRainmaker on October 29, 2006 at 10:10 AM
uh, do you guys ever sleep??
good mornin’!
pullingmyhairout on October 29, 2006 at 10:15 AM
people like that woman are the reason I’ve named myself pullingmyhairout.
pullingmyhairout on October 29, 2006 at 10:16 AM
…he was in someone else’s house. Not polite to be rude to the other guests in someone else’s house…even if theyr’e rude first. You ask permission.
I’m also sure that he — like most of us — is tired of putting up with, as he correctly observes, folks who “regurgitate” the talking points they’ve read in seditious media, on the web, etc.
Consider: you don’t just have to bat the alligators back into the swamp once. The alligators in this are organized. They keep crawling back out.
…my apologies to alligators for the comparison, by the way….
Puritan1648 on October 29, 2006 at 10:32 AM
Another mindless 60’s wanntabe. She read it the paper therefore it is true and she does not need to think for herself.
Wade on October 29, 2006 at 10:47 AM
…Saddam was a weapon of mass destruction. Ahmadenijad (sp?) is a weapon of mass destruction. Those animals who strap on dynamite belts are weapons of mass destruction.
The whole WMD gambit came about, I’m convinced, because the Left whined about a “mandate” from the UN, as if a sovereign nation needs a mandate to defend itself. Iraq was simple self-defense, a war deferred for ten years and finally engaged. We now know that at least two permanent members of the Security Council were “on the take” from Oil-for-Food profits, and that the UN itself — its Secretary General and his family especially — were as dirty as chimneysweeps, so Gen. Powell’s little slideshow was superfluous.
Forget weapons of mass destruction. The bad guys have proven that airliners full of tourists and businessmen are weapons of mass destruction.
The point is this: they want us dead. We don’t want that. So, we stop them. Period. Any schoolyard kid could understand that…too bad the Left can’t….
Puritan1648 on October 29, 2006 at 10:59 AM
The biggest weakness we have in the coming War is our own left, in particular their ideas of “Multiculturalism” and the Political Correct (aka, you are wrong if you don’t agree with the Left’s Ideology).
It really will take major a major disaster, or perhaps a few major disasters, for the majority of American to abandon the Left. Unfortunate but the Moonbat on Oprah gives an example of where many in this country are now.
I agree with the following post as well, and believe we are already in the beginning of World War III. This beginning is happening in slow motion but will heat up after major disasters happen.
To answer all comments: I believe Islamofascism is as serious a problem this world has faced since the rise of Nazi Germany. I would like for this nation to go beyond the discussion of Iraq (WMD’s, etc…) to talk about the very serious threat to Western-style democracies in general. If the old saying is true, that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it, then, as the world’s only remaining superpower, let’s start talking about the real threats facing the world - which will require rising above the current debates about Iraq and what the Bush administration shoulda, coulda, woulda, and on to what we’re really facing with these jihadists who depise our form of government and way of life. This debate is so much bigger than Bush, Gitmo, or Iraq.
thedecider on October 29, 2006 at 3:53 AM
omegaram on October 29, 2006 at 11:20 AM
(Another mindless 60’s wanntabe. She read it the paper therefore it is true and she does not need to think for herself.)
Ha ! Well it is Halloween. “The Moonbat time of year”
Texyank on October 29, 2006 at 12:03 PM
Hey AP & Company. Can we get back to watching for multiple posts here please? This is starting to look like an IM for hillbillyjim and a couple of his bud’s.
Please not too many comments in one thread!!!
shooter on October 29, 2006 at 12:18 PM
Liberals will not be convinced of their need to embrace the war on terror as a neccessary part of their own survival. Only two things can happen at this point to esure the western world’s survivor.
1.) Muslims continue to outbreed Europeans plunging their continent into civil war - the ONLY point at which Europeans will acknowledge that there is a problem they need to deal with (the same way as happened with hitler).
2.) Conservatives continue to outbreed Liberals here at home and vote them out of power permanently.
Those two events - which will take place over the next few decades - are what will focus the Western World on it’s survival.
venmax on October 29, 2006 at 12:48 PM
Hey AP & Company. Can we get back to watching for multiple posts here please? This is starting to look like an IM for hillbillyjim and a couple of his bud’s.
Please not too many comments in one thread!!!
shooter on October 29, 2006 at 12:18 PM
Well, it seems I may included in the afforementioned inditement. I would like to enter a plea of guilty with an explaination. It was in the wee hours and I was responding to comments. I admit I may havce gotten off track. I would like to offer a whole hearted “I am sorry” possibly for not abiding by good message board etiquette, although I have seen in numurous instances “debates” here with more postings than I . Thank you for the correction in this matter. Sincerely,Vince Spataro
sonnyspats1 on October 29, 2006 at 12:53 PM
The Clash Between Civilization and Barbarism needs to be boiled down for the intellectually-paralyzed on the extremelib side.
The stakes in this War are vital, and it should be called:
Human Freedom versus Theocratic Tyranny.
If “theocratic” has too many syllables for them, then:
Human Freedom versus Intolerant Tyranny.
What part of “intolerant” don’t they grasp?
Or are they still too afraid to read the Koran -and maybe find out that this “Holy” book (to use Condi Rice’s word for it) ACTIVELY considers women worth only half of a man, that stoning adulteresses to death (and beheading men) is part of the “religion”? Or that gays should be killed? That ALL infidels on Earth need to be forced into slavery to Islam or killed off? Are they afraid to find out that the Koran is not like the Beautitudes or Psalms or Songs of Solomon or Book of Micah? And that it contains scores of bizarre insults to anyone who would not accept Mohammad’s “prophet” status and a psycholigcally-suspect continual current of pleading by the “prophet” that he is “not insane”?
My advice to those in denial about the nature of Islam:
READ THE KORAN- Spread the Dread!
Headlines alone won’t cut it. (Even with scissors.)
profitsbeard on October 29, 2006 at 12:53 PM
How true. If you closed your eyes and were told to picture a leftie moonbat she would be the vision.
Wade on October 29, 2006 at 12:57 PM
Here is the truth that the GOP SHOULD be screaming from the rooftops.
IF the democrats had been HELPING wage war ON the terrorists instead of helping terrorists fight against their own Country for the last few years, Iraq would probably BE a different place than it is today. Giving aid and comfort to the enemy is EXACTLY what they have been doing, it is perfectly demonstrated in the terrorist tape that CNN ran in their latest attempt at subversion, and the American people should not tolerate it.
Imagine, if the day following D-Day, one of the news channels had started running footage on the TV’s in American’s homes of a German machine gun nest straffing the beaches at Normandy killing American soldiers, in an attempt to subvert the war effort. Why, the U.S. would have rounded them all up and tried them for treason, and rightly so.
NRA4Freedom on October 29, 2006 at 1:54 PM
I believe that there are only a handful of companies that do what Halliburton does. Maybe only three, I can’t remember right off hand. And Halliburton is the best of these companies. My point is, no matter who out of these few companies were awarded the contract, the left would scream about it. Bill is right about the talking points, and this lady was kind enough to explain that the papers she reads print the garbage that loonies on the left put online. Thank you for confirming my thoughts about the “media”.
Troy Rasmussen on October 29, 2006 at 2:04 PM
Here’s a depressing thought. Imagine what we would have to do to eliminate Islamofascism, i.e., to win this war. There are some 1.2 BILLION Islamists. Lets say only 10% are of the fascist variety (which I don’t buy for a second). That means there are 120 MILLION of the enemy. And not one in uniform.
So how can we possibly win, when it only takes 20 to take down the World Trade Center? We don’t have to just “get serious” in this war — we have to get downright brutal. Can you imagine what the leftists would say if they realized we had to kill 120 million people, all of whom are innocent freedom fighters?
This is going to be a generational war, and the odds are way against us. G-d help us all.
stonemeister on October 29, 2006 at 3:06 PM
Stonemeister, god won’t help us. God is dead. God gave up. He realized that the left has no god and that the right misrepresents him. He packed up and went away. I lived in New York on 9/11 and the stench of rotting bodies in the subways was enough for me to realize one thing; god is no more.
shackler on October 29, 2006 at 3:17 PM
Shackler, you are so wrong. G-d doesn’t make faith easy. Faith is only of value if it’s challenged. You are not truly righteous if you abandon G-d in the face of severe challenge.
The same argument is for liberty…it has not value unless it’s challenged.
You must, if anything, believe even more in G-d. He gave you the tools and the strength to persevere, not just in easy times, but even in these dire days.
stonemeister on October 29, 2006 at 3:29 PM
Shackler, I have to add something to my last post. During the earliest days of Nazism in Germany, the Jews (I am a Jew) did little to defend themselves. I can see why — they were in the minority, and felt overwhelmed. They decided to believe that things couldn’t be this bad, despite what they saw and heard. Not just that, they felt overwhelmed by being outnumbered. So they just withdrew, and went along with the program.
In 20/20 hindsight, we know it would have been far better if the Jews had fought back. They probably still would have lost, but perhaps they would have gained allies. Perhaps their superior moral position would have given them strength. It doesn’t matter. If my only choices were to die in impotence or to die in a staunch defense, I would take the latter any day.
stonemeister on October 29, 2006 at 3:35 PM
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