I have to say I had a great time this weekend ripping on this awful show, and I’m so glad that no one complained. Your arguments for why the show is watchable are probably better than mine which say the opposite, but no one called me a nazi or even called my character into question. That says quite a bit about the type of commenter at HotAir. It’s sad that most disagreement ends in personal attacks. But not here. Kudos to you!

Don’t mention it, toaster-lover.

Still, BSG stinks :)

Troll.

PeteRR on October 30, 2006 at 8:14 AM
That was a trollish statement, but I don’t think he is a true troll, dude.

As far as them finding Earth and in what shape it will be, I would say let’s give the writers a chance. If we need to, we can burn that bridge when we come to it.

Still, BSG stinks :)

Troll.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and whether or not the show is good is entirely a matter of taste. My little sister watches Dawson’s Creek reruns, but I still talk to her. ;)

That said, I’m firmly of the opinion that BSG is the best television ever made. No other show has actually caused me to sit forward on the edge of my seat.

Still, BSG stinks :)

-The english teacher will worry if she’s doing the right thing becoming president again.
-Adama’s kid will not like Adama some more.
-3 different people will stare at at least 4 people for more than 4 seconds without saying anything.
-Boltar will worry. The girl in his head will condole, and possibly offer ways to make him seem more evil.
-1 Boomer will be exceedingly cool. Other Boomers will suck.
-The old Apollo will do some things that no one really cares about.
-The cylons will debate, and decide that God wants them to hang back and wait to see what the humans do.
-50% of the people in the scene will be under floodlight so you can’t see half of their faces.
-50% of the show will contain no sound other than background music. You know, for ‘character development’. Stare at their faces to truly grok them!

Sorry for the spoilers.

Like faster-than-light travel?

For even the smallest fighter. I guess FTL is easier than we thought. ;}

They have written so many things that “just could not happen” into the script that they have totally distroyed the show.

Like faster-than-light travel?

(STAY TUNED NEXT TIME FOR THE THRILLING CONCLUSION!)

But I’ve found the BG characters to be more believable than most. Of course dramatic things are happening every week, they’re in a war in space. Lee seems to try to do the right thing, regardless of the rules.

Baltar does what’s best for Baltar. Crashdown was going to get them all killed.

Roslyn didn’t start off strong, but she was close (ahem) to the old President and understood politics and power pretty well. Just took her a little time to get used to practicing politcal hardball.

BTW, I just don’t get what that cylon was trying to do with Starbuck. Okay, he broke her, got his way, fullfilled his vision, but why? Did I miss something that explained why?

When I start to see possible parallels between the show and current events, I ignore it. I don’t see enough similarities for it work. Instead I take the show as it is – an engrossing space opera with no clear cut signs pointing out who is the hero and who is the villain.

Kevin, if you dislike the series so much, then why do you even bother clicking on the link to discussions such as this one?

Because I love science fiction and will talk about it for hours even when no one is listening. Plus it’s always fun to ‘vent’ :). I assume I’m not making anyone angry, after all it’s just a tv show. If I am, let me know and I’ll stop.

Hope not though! Because I have a new gripe about it. Why does everyone sit/stand directly under a spotlight so half of their face is faded to white? I’m not sure I would want to live in a world where everyone has to live under floodlights that make it difficult to see.

If the show was all space combat and less character development, we wouldn’t care what happened to them and there would be no speculation on how people will react in a given situation.

Odd that you would say that, because I cared more about the original cast than I do about these guys, and didn’t have any empathy for the cylons in either series. In fact, I care so little for most of them that I called for them to be killed off of the show just a few posts back! Now that the english teacher is going to be President again, I’d add that she should be killed off, and then her coffin should be shot into the sun for good measure. Just a thought.

The Gitmo tribunales were never taksed with flash-boiling a persons blood out through their ears.

And what about season two when Adama led a Coup de tat right before he was shot? Half the fleet left with Rozalyn when she escaped; witch half the fleet was guilty of treason then? Rozalyn did the right thing, she chose life.

Starbuck needs to get her s**t together…. Ron Moore writign her into this crap is starting to make me miss Dirk Benadict. Kate Sachoff is good at it, but come on….

My biggest concern is that some day their won’t be new episodes of BSG and I’ll have to go back to watching terrible TV that revels in insulting my intelligence.

Bah. I saw those ones. She battled with what should have been a one second decision for tho whole shows. The women I know are not so slow to do what’s necessary. Maybe I’m just misogynistic against what Canadian sci-fi writers think is female, but they always have such weak-minded women, worry worry worrying. Haven’t any of them ever been married? Women are much stronger than that nowadays. Probably always have been. To be fair, I’m not a fan of their wussification of guys either, exemplified in Star Trek’s Voyager, Deep Space Nine, and for the most part, TNG.

And Shiw, I’m not sure why tossing a cylon out an airlock is proof of toughness, or anything really. I threw a machine in the garbage just this morning (the answering machine… it hung up on people early. Had to go) but don’t feel that I deserve any special respect for doing so :).

Admittedly, I often walk out of the room when the english teacher does her scene, but it’s justified. We waited an entire year for something to happen of importance on that show, and nothing did. A year of episodes where she and Adama disagreed with tactics or something, followed by Adama and his kid disagreeing about something, followed by someone else disagreeing with another person about something, followed by… understanding (sheesh!). And all the while, no sci-fi!

If I accidentally hear one more *itch session between Adama and his son, I’m going to shoot someone’s TV (not mine, I don’t have the spare cash to replace it). j/k

This show is among the all-time greatest of science fiction disappointments. I could understand that they made the robots look like people to save some money, but come on. Over-exposure/high-contrast doesn’t make a series sci-fi. They can make it a soap opera show where person x backstabs person y every other week, and guilt abounds, and even add confused angst to every single character (they did!), but not without lots of space duels and robots/aliens. Heck, I’d rather watch 1960’s Dr. Who. At least they tried to make it look futuristic.

(The “New Caprica” cycle does somewhat meaningfully parallel occupied France. That mostly works; Palestine/Iraq/Guantanamo simply doesn’t. And yeah, the France thing isn’t perfect, either–with at least multiple hundreds left dead on New Caprica, I couldn’t help but cringe at the notion of the gene pool getting a little more shallow each time the launch tube fired. At least the French didn’t have that to worry about–well, at least not in the 1940’s.)

As for Roslin, she’s a genuinely wonderful character. There seems at least some evidence that in the old world she was quite the dutiful liberal (maybe there are conservative pro-abortion federal education bureaucrats with general feelings of antipathy towards the military out there, but I’d be surprised). Thrust into a stark survival situation, however, she’s found and continues to find that much of what she once took for granted is actually far from realistic. In fact, if there’s an argument to be made that the show actually leans slightly conservative, I think it might best be found here: President Roslin is the Mother of all Security Moms.