Comments on: Report: IAF jets fire shots at German warship; Update: Israel vehemently denies

By: wowbagger

wowbagger — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 23:27:29 +0000

ref my earlier comment

whoa! JPost changed thier caption, perhaps they’re watching the HotAir comment threads… nahhh

By: F15Mech

F15Mech — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 23:20:00 +0000

From the article…

The jets also activated infra-red countermeasures to ward off any rocket attack, the paper quoted him as saying, in an advance release from Thursday’s edition.

Seeing how Reuters has a history of not being able to “identify correctly” flares (aka infra-red countermeasures) vs live missles.

I am going to have to agree georgej when he posted…

Absent video proof of actual IAF F-16’s firing live ammunition at a German warship, I’m going to treat it just like LIKE THE BOGUS AMBULANCE ATTACKS.

Fool me twice….

georgej on October 25, 2006 at 4:55 PM

By: DAT60A3

DAT60A3 — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:57:57 +0000

The USS Liberty lnk didn’t come through it is http://www.ussliberty.com.

By: Speakup

Speakup — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:55:00 +0000

Hmmm, Methinks thou dost protest too much.

Besides I’m sure that IF the chain gun lit off on the IAF fighter and the spray went up from the ocean, the German Sailors said to each other…their not firing, nah they wouldn’t fire, not at us, would they?
It’s pretty unmistakable.

Why would the German Sailors say they were fired on, if not?
Being fire on at sea would scare the crap out you if nothing else.

By: DAT60A3

DAT60A3 — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:54:24 +0000

Not surprising. In he 1967 Six Day War, the Israelis attacked the USS Liberty, a surveillance ship monitoring the war. Thirty-four fine Americans were killed andone hundred and seventy-four were wounded in the deliberate attack. The ship was strafed by jets, torpedoed by boats, and the life boats machinegunned. There was never any Congressional inquiry. It was swept under the carpet. Israel claimed mistaken identification. For details, check out .

By: Iblis

Iblis — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:32:37 +0000

The DUmmies killed the thread.

By: Spurius Ligustinus

Spurius Ligustinus — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:16:35 +0000

Something doesn’t sound right about this – the Germans are selling the Israelis some of the latest-generation diesel-powered submarines – Dolphin-class boats, I think – and the Israelis are supposedly shooting at the Germans in return?

Doesn’t add up, unless some kind of serious mistake was made.

One may accuse the Israelis of many things, but acting contrary to their own self-interest generally isn’t one of them.

By: georgej

georgej — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:55:21 +0000

Absent video proof of actual IAF F-16′s firing live ammunition at a German warship, I’m going to treat it just like LIKE THE BOGUS AMBULANCE ATTACKS.

Fool me twice….

By: budorob

budorob — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:38:18 +0000

Lonestar,

“Welcome to Erff!”

By: Puritan1648

Puritan1648 — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:22:06 +0000

Can you say “USS Liberty”? What sort of a ship was it? That’s the question. If it were a standard destroyer or frigate, it was probably an accident, I’d say. On the other hand, if it were an EW ship….

By: Rick

Rick — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:18:07 +0000

DU has already picked this story up and the thread is growing increasingly fragrant. Keep an eye out

Yes, they are in full throttle over there. As is GregH here:

It will be interesting to see how this unfolds. As Israel is America’s most favored state, I would imagine that Americans will receive a pro-Israel explanation from MSM, who will undoubtedly cast it as a misunderstanding or miscommunication.

GregH on October 25, 2006 at 2:26 PM

By: Neo

Neo — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:15:09 +0000

Almost like their is a world-war going on, or something. And besides, rules of engagement require being fired upon first pretty much all the time sans a formal declaration of war.

Germans targeting/threatening IAF over-flights of Lebanon exactly as the UN threatened to do? Nahhhhhh.

By: Defector01

Defector01 — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:11:30 +0000

wow; jpost actually does a decent job more times then not
Why is it i get the feeling that this is just a load of horse crap?

Dearest Defector:

What is this German operation you speak of?

Best Regards,

Golan Cipel

Didn’t you get the memo>?

By: EFG

EFG — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:40:26 +0000

Ehh, the time stamp for that message is 9:37 pm. Near the bottom.

By: EFG

EFG — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:38:28 +0000

Off topic Shooter, I missed your comments about Flotsom and Jetsam. I left you a message here. Enjoy.

By: wowbagger

wowbagger — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:17:44 +0000

Not sure how reliable that “Update” JPost article is… the aircraft photo is captioned as an F-16 but it’s an F-15. MSM factcheckers, ya know…

By: Wired German

Wired German — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:58:12 +0000

I strongly disagree, Israel has played too carefully and they have nothing to show for it. When enite continents, multiple countries and the majority of the press is against you and your right to exist, it is time to play for keeps.

Yeah, and pissing off the few Allies they still have left of course is the ebst way to do so… *rolleyes*

By: shooter

shooter — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:50:27 +0000

Clark Kent does…, pinky.

By: PinkyBigglesworth

PinkyBigglesworth — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:48:10 +0000

Why can’t the US have a cool newspaper named Der Tagesspiegel ?

By: shooter

shooter — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:47:54 +0000

a pro-Israel explanation from MSM,

Yeah, that happens alot.

Something else tragic on the front page of the Bild..
… did Daisy Die? Thats a bummer.

By: America1st

America1st — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:46:02 +0000

whoops, enite= entire

By: America1st

America1st — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:44:56 +0000

I strongly disagree, Israel has played too carefully and they have nothing to show for it. When enite continents, multiple countries and the majority of the press is against you and your right to exist, it is time to play for keeps.

By: Wired German

Wired German — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:37:10 +0000

The Israelis should play very carefully. If they keep pulling stunts like that, they’ll loose whatever little public support they have over here pretty fast.

By: Limerick

Limerick — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:34:10 +0000

Paint my tail and I’ll paint yours back……Israel will not allow the blue helmets from keeping Israels eyes on her enemies………..

Shalom!

By: GregH

GregH — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:26:19 +0000

It will be interesting to see how this unfolds. As Israel is America’s most favored state, I would imagine that Americans will receive a pro-Israel explanation from MSM, who will undoubtedly cast it as a misunderstanding or miscommunication.