Video: Harold Ford Sr. calls pro-life activists “crackers“; Update: “trackers” was the word
posted at 6:53 pm on October 24, 2006 by Ian
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Harold Ford Sr., the father of Tennessee Democrat Senate candidate Harold Ford Jr. (D), called pro-life activists who were outside of his son’s campaign headquarters “crackers”. Ford Sr. was on a cell phone telling the recipient “we have a cracker here with the Corker people.”
Update (Allahpundit): KP e-mails to say she thinks Ford called them “trackers,” i.e., people who follow a campaign around a la the Webb staffer whom George Allen called a “macaca.” Listen and decide for yourself. If she’s right, will this help get her back in the left’s good graces?
Probably not, no.
Apologies to Mr. Ford, though, for the error, if it is an error.
UPDATE: The word used was “trackers”, not “crackers”. I apologize for the error.
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Whoa! Being pro-life makes you a whitey? That’s raaacist! Color me confused.
NTWR on October 24, 2006 at 6:57 PM
We are all white and proud…
Ropera on October 24, 2006 at 7:00 PM
I keep hearing that Ford’s family is famously corrupt, so can I assume that this joker is one of the corrupt ones? And he’s a racist too? Wow, Junior must be proud.
ReubenJCogburn on October 24, 2006 at 7:05 PM
Its hard to recall a worse three-day run near the end of a campaign. Is the Ford campaign just gone completely bonkers–storming Corker’s press conference, the surprisingly effective “call me Harold” ad really seems to have jolted the guy, and now Ford, Sr., goes bigot happy. And that’s not even counting the Ford motor company re-stating huge losses.
cms on October 24, 2006 at 7:07 PM
MLK weeps.
Kid from Brooklyn on October 24, 2006 at 7:13 PM
His father doesn’t look black either. I honestly always thought Ford was Italian until I read somewhere he was black.
frankj on October 24, 2006 at 7:15 PM
Typical Dem, do as I say not as I do, or is it say as I do, not as I say….??
How about whatever they say I will never do. Thats the one for me. How come we don’t hear the “his daddy” comments about Junior from the left like the comments thrown George Bush’s way? Same logic applies from above.
chicagoray on October 24, 2006 at 7:21 PM
Wow, that’s really going to win his son a lot of votes. Thanks, Ford Sr.!!
thirteen28 on October 24, 2006 at 7:26 PM
Let’s just see how much MSM action this comment generates. I’ll be waiting.
liberty on October 24, 2006 at 7:28 PM
isn’t it oxymoronical to have a cracker call other crackers crackers?
Defector01 on October 24, 2006 at 7:34 PM
Don’t hold your breath, liberty. It’ll never get air time anywhere but, perhaps, Hannity & Colmes.
thedecider on October 24, 2006 at 7:47 PM
yikes!
RodeoClown51527 on October 24, 2006 at 7:51 PM
I saw this earlier on Fox, but I didn’t catch the ‘cracker’ comment.
I doubt this is going to get anywhere near the exposure of the ‘macaca’ thing.
If this were, say, Santorum or Allen’s relative using a racial slur, we would never hear the end of it.
Liberty – don’t hold your breath waiting for that MSM reaction!
forest on October 24, 2006 at 7:53 PM
Okay. Something is going on here now. Harold Ford Jr. doesn’t look black. Harold Ford Sr. doesn’t look black. Before charges of racism against Ford are given any credence, should we at least see some evidence he’s black?
frankj on October 24, 2006 at 7:53 PM
I put crackers in my soup. I eat crackers with my salad. A slice of cheese is good with crackers, but I have never even SEEN that guy in my house.
Limerick on October 24, 2006 at 7:55 PM
“He is not the thing he is cracked up for”
He cracks me up!
Entelechy on October 24, 2006 at 7:57 PM
…he’s what was once (and in some places still is) called “high yellow”. Look up paper bag party sometime. Race in America is still a tricky thing, even in the black community itself, with a heavily charged vocabulary tied ’round its neck. All of the set-asides, sensitivity sessions and celebrity specials haven’t done anything but added noise and voltage.
Using words like “cracker” or any of the other terms used to be both hurtful and an “in-word” among ones own group, race or clique is still as common as it ever was, if not as open as it once was.
One change is that words like “redneck” and the dreaded “N-word” have been coopted by the groups concerned and had a “making fun of ourselves” spin put on ‘em…so long as you’re a redneck throwing the word redneck around…and even then you’ll find yourself offending other folks who can’t or won’t (and probably shouldn’t) let go of the hurtful baggage connected with the word.
Mind you, the “N-word”, for all its use in the “hip-hop” patois, will probably remain a gigantic bozo-no-no.
As an aside — and sure to offend someone — allow me to point out that the Dems seem to be trying to phase in blackness in their candidate base. Obama’s not that dark. They’ll put a Ford Junior forward, and get to someone as dark as Condoleeza or J.C. Watts in 20 years, maybe.
Puritan1648 on October 24, 2006 at 8:02 PM
The Ford family are Americans of African descent. And as corrupt as anything you might have heard. It’s a good thing the family is in the mortuary business, they have had plenty to bury over the years.
And this comment is quite mild compared to things I’ve heard from Harold Sr. while in the same room, though he is a bit smoother than his brother John.
Freelancer on October 24, 2006 at 8:03 PM
Everybody in our section of the South knows that all the Fords are arrogant thugs. Please do not let junior’s mild television demeanor fool you.
dixie68 on October 24, 2006 at 8:04 PM
You know, It just wears me out that anyone from the left can use nearly any racial slur. Rather than be offended, we must be sensitive to some sort of slight they have been subjected to in their life. For Christ’s sake…..
Can’t recall who said it previously here, (too lazy to look again), but don’t hold your breath about any mention in the MSM.
Just another race huckster in a long line from the left. Harold, Al, Jessee, Cynthia McKinney, and on and on and on……..
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BacaDog on October 24, 2006 at 8:13 PM
I’m almost certain that he didn’t utter the word “cracker”. After a closer review, we will more than likely come to the conclusion that what actually came out of his mouth was “cracka”. Lazy english (ebonics) seems to allow negative racial terms because the specific term in question (at the time) isn’t used.
I wonder if he can fit the phone in his mouth at the same time as his foot?
jarhead05 on October 24, 2006 at 9:13 PM
Ford: you damn hate-filled, hillbilly toothless crackers… you be damn racist I tells ya
Opinionnation on October 24, 2006 at 9:19 PM
Prediction: At most Hannity will mention this, and that will be about as MSM as this gets.
RightWinged on October 24, 2006 at 9:25 PM
Daaaaaaad, STFU
Your son,
Harold, Jr.
Valiant on October 24, 2006 at 9:31 PM
Some days you feel like a nut. Some days you don’t.
: )
Texyank on October 24, 2006 at 9:52 PM
Hey, BacaDog, maybe you could back off of using my Lord’s name in vain, please. This Ford kerfuffle isn’t his fault…
Jaibones on October 24, 2006 at 10:18 PM
Well, that does make him at least a nice guy. You know, the last person in the world to let you down.
Tip your servers, folks.
mikeyboss on October 24, 2006 at 10:27 PM
We’ve heard cracker before. Remember Cynthia McKinney’s crew and their racist statements? Jews and Crackers
The Yelling Box on October 24, 2006 at 10:27 PM
I am sick and tired of the double-standards. The media forced Trent Lott to resign over a comment about a soon to be dead senator that had nothing to do with race.. Bt wasn’t sensitive.
Media in the USA == Pravda in USSR
James on October 24, 2006 at 10:38 PM
Mmmmmm. Crackers!
DaveS on October 24, 2006 at 10:41 PM
thanks to the heads up from KP it does sound like he might have said “trackers” – it is a little garbled when he’s turning around as he’s saying it.
Either way, he sounds like a baby..
Somebody get him a hanky.
flagwaver on October 24, 2006 at 11:22 PM
Sounds like “trackers” to me, too.
tdau1997 on October 24, 2006 at 11:26 PM
Come on, we all know what he said. I guess the real difference is, it doesn’t offend me at all to hear him call me a “cracker”. And hopefully, he would be as understanding if the tables were turned and I said something by mistake.
NRA4Freedom on October 24, 2006 at 11:27 PM
…remember Cynthia’s daddy?! He’s a real piece of work!
…but, if there’s a mention (in amongst the Foley and Allen stuff, the thousandth mention of the “chaos in Iraq”, and the vote-depression-attempts by the MSM), they’ll get a pass.
In the last 50 years, we’ve gone from black men being automatically guilty by virtue of their color of their hide, to black men being automatically innocent by virtue of that same tint and background — because they are poor, misunderstood, their dreams have been under-realized, their having grown up in single-parent families, or some other rationale some overly sincere suburban white liberal learned from some textbook somewhere. Now, there’s social progress. We go from “strange fruit” in magnolia trees to OJ walking because the investigating officer was painted as a cross-burner.
Nobody’d want to go back to the “Bull” Connor days, but official selective hearing isn’t the answer.
It’s almost as if officialdom wants to treat folks like the Fords as “demi-citizens”, with all the privileges but a junior serving of the responsibility because they’re somehow not equipped to handle adult decisions and consequences. It’s the plantation all over again. Let ‘em swing from the ladies’ tee, they say. “They’re just children, really.”
Just who are these black people who can’t measure up, who have to have their chins wiped and their thinking done for them? They aren’t any of the black people I went to school with, served with in the Army, or have lived amongst most of my life.
When the Fords or some other regional black bozos are exploitative thugs, when Sharpton or Jackson throw their weight around, when Cynthia begins to shoot her mouth off and then declares the bilge she’s just spoken on an open mike to be “off the record”, who are the first victims and who end up with egg on their faces after some ridiculous pronouncement? Other black people.
It’s getting really old…about 400 years old, to be exact…but it isn’t making any more sense than it ever did.
Puritan1648 on October 24, 2006 at 11:37 PM
Just listened to it again. It does sound like tracker if you listen closely. Already issued the apology at my blog as well.
SisterToldjah on October 24, 2006 at 11:42 PM
puritan1648…i’ve seen your view articulated in far less intelligent ways, i cetaintly understnd your view, however i disagree…i went to an inner-city highschool which was 75% black and experienced many of these issues firsthand. Their are many blacks who are in no need of governmental assistance, but as a community there are many institutional and sociological handicaps that are still in place. I did not read any of my opinions on race issues out of a textbook, i learned them through my own eyes….blacks have a wonderful, original culture and a great potential to be much more illustrious as a people in our society, but they are from being in a position to compete equally with whites for jobs and colleges, by no fault of their own. As for the comment made by the Ford it was ignorant, but mild…i don’t see how its extremely offfensive…as if whites are the real victim of racism
crr6 on October 25, 2006 at 12:05 AM
Tough call on the “tracker” thing. On a re-listen it did seem like he said “trackers”, but then on another re-listen it sounded like “crackers” again. Very tough with the “tracker/crackers” talking at the same time.
But I agree, KP isn’t getting back in the good graces of the left with this. She’s finished. In fact she was probably finished the day she became a regular guest on The Factor.
RightWinged on October 25, 2006 at 12:07 AM
Oh lordy
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15403071/from/RSS/
Tennessee ad ignites internal GOP squabbling
Corker calls for own party to pull spot some Republicans denounce as racist
• Tennessee race turns personal
Oct. 24: MSNBC-TV’s Norah O’Donnell previews the Tennessee Senate race between Democrat Harold Ford Jr., pictured, and Republican Bob Coker.
With their majority in the Senate potentially hanging in the balance, Republicans were bickering among themselves over an advertisement in the particularly nasty campaign in Tennessee that even some Republicans have denounced as racist.
The dispute pitted former Chattanooga Mayor Bob Corker, the GOP candidate for the seat held by Senate Republican leader Bill Frist, against his own party leadership Tuesday after it rebuffed his call to pull the ad, which lampoons Democratic Rep. Harold Ford Jr.’s reputation as a man about town.
In the ad, a young white actress playing the stereotype of a “dumb blonde” talks about meeting Ford, a 36-year-old bachelor who is black, “at the Playboy party.” At the end of the ad, she winks and says to the camera, “Harold — call me.”
The ad brought immediate criticism from the Ford campaign and the NAACP, whose Washington office called it “a powerful innuendo that plays to pre-existing prejudices about African-American men and white women.”
Ford told MSNBC-TV: “I know that they are a little desperate and doing the things that you do when you get desperate in a campaign.”
Corker himself called the ad “distasteful” Tuesday, telling MSNBC-TV, “I think it ought to come down.” Meanwhile, Bill Cohen, a former Republican senator from Maine, criticized it in an interview on CNN as “a very serious appeal to a racist sentiment.”
But Ken Mehlman, chairman of the Republican National Committee, said Tuesday that he saw nothing wrong with the ad.
“After the comments by Mr. Corker and former Sen. Cohen, I looked at the ad, and I don’t agree with that characterization of it,” Mehlman told NBC’s Washington bureau chief, Tim Russert, in an interview as part of MSNBC-TV’s daylong Battleground America report.
“I think that there is nothing more repugnant in our society than people who try to divide Americans along racial lines, and I would denounce any ad that I thought did,” said Mehlman, who addressed the NAACP last year, apologizing for the Republican Party’s race-tinged “Southern strategy” during the 1970s and ’80s.
“I happen not to believe that ad does,” he said, adding that even if he wanted to pull the ad, he couldn’t.
Even though a woman’s voice discloses that “the Republican National Committee is responsible for the content of this advertising,” Mehlman said the RNC was not, in fact, responsible. He said the ad was produced by an independent group contracted by the RNC, with whom he is prohibited from communicating.
“The way that process works under the campaign reform laws is I write a check to an independent individual and that person’s responsible for spending money in certain states,” he said. Beyond that, he said, the RNC is out of the loop.
Ford dismisses GOP explanation
But Ford said Republican leaders were being disingenuous.
“I do know that if my opponent wanted this ad pulled down, he could get it pulled down,” Ford said. White House press secretary Tony Snow appeared to support Ford on that point, telling Chris Matthews, host of MSNBC’s “Hardball,” that “if he wants it to come off [the air], it’ll come off.”
But MSNBC’s chief Washington correspondent, Norah O’Donnell, reported that Republican strategists told her that they had no intention of pulling the ad and were looking forward to its running right up to Election Day in two weeks.
For his part, Corker noted that Ford drove up in a bus to confront him at a press conference in Memphis over the weekend, an incident that he said “called into question whether he has the temperament, the comportment, if you will, to have the statesmanlike qualities that people look for in a United States senator.”
The controversy comes at a bad time for Corker, who is struggling to hold on to what had been considered a safe Republican seat in a state that hasn’t sent a Democrat to the Senate in 18 years. But the new MSNBC/McClatchy poll released Tuesday shows the race as a virtual tie, with Corker’s 45 percent-to-43 percent lead falling within the statistical margin of error.
Corker’s lackluster campaign has vaulted Tennessee to the top of the list of too-close-to-call races that both parties believe could tip the balance in the Senate, along with vise-tight races in Virginia and Tennessee, where Democratic challengers are neck-and-neck with Republican incumbents.
Mehlman predicted Tuesday that the Republicans would hold onto both houses of Congress, but Sen. Elizabeth Dole, chairwoman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, acknowledged that her party was in a fight for its life.
William Amos on October 25, 2006 at 12:08 AM
William — Please stay on topic. If you have a tip, e-mail us.
Allahpundit on October 25, 2006 at 12:08 AM
Yeah, just the first relisten sounded like “tracker”, but each time I listen again it sounds like “cracker” to me. Anyone out there have the ability to extract and analyize the audio in the event that he denies saying “cracker” (which won’t happen, because he won’t be pressed on it).
RightWinged on October 25, 2006 at 12:09 AM
OK sorry Allah. Thought it was related in that it shows that Ford was willing to push the racist button first
William Amos on October 25, 2006 at 12:10 AM
Yeah, he is saying “tracker.” If you listen closely you’ll here a ‘ch’ sound that is usually caused when saying words with ‘tr’; like truck and trace.
. . .Now, what does he mean by “tracker?” A name for some one who hands out religious tracts; being pro-life and all? This could be an entirely different outrageous outrage.
- The Cat
MirCat on October 25, 2006 at 12:12 AM
Yeah, he’s definately saying “tracker”. Let’s not be like the nutroots and convince ourselves of some alternate reality.
Good catch, KP.
DaveS on October 25, 2006 at 12:22 AM
Listened to it a few times, does sound like tracker, not cracker.
Scot on October 25, 2006 at 12:36 AM
…first of all, thank you. It was a kind way to open a blog.
Secondly, I was referring to in the textbook remark to folks who DON’T actually mix with people outside their own ken, but who still feel empowered to reorder society to fight injustices which they’ve never seen, out of a personal guilt which they feel WE have, and which they have only for display.
There’re fantastic pockets of poverty still in this country…and folks like the McKinneys, the Fords, the Jacksons and others have turned their existence into an industry. Huey and, to a lesser extent, Russell Long did the same thing for poor…er…crackers in Louisiana once upon a time. This isn’t anything new. The Longs left quite a legacy, no? I fear that the crop currently trumpeting black pain will do no better…because they’re using the same tired tools.
On the other hand, you see a LOT less posturing and institutional rage on Indian reservations, for instance, where poverty approaches third-world levels…although there’re still, unfortunately, “professional Indians” and “welfare warriors” about. What about the poverty of Appalachia, always a national disgrace? What about the old rust belt?
Why aren’t we hearing about impoverished kids from Korean or Indian immigrant families? Probably, we’re spared that cacophony because there aren’t any Korean or Indian Sharptons…their hands out for “the ‘hood”, with porous palms soaking up their “take”.
It’s not a matter of institutional racism any more. If you can even find a lunch counter in Mississippi, and you have some jack in your pocket, you can clog your arteries to your heart’s content. It’s more a lack of organization…and what’s needed is not organization to get to the front of the line at the public trough. Why aren’t textile manufacturers putting plants in near Pine Ridge instead of in Sri Lanka? There’s a discussion, which would involve talking about unions, tariffs, and a lot of nasty stuff. Still, it’s a discussion worth having. Then, if it works, put one in near Over-The-Rhine in Cincinnati.
My point earlier (for all the other static I attached to it) was that, even after all of the noise and systemic vibration in our society, we’re still not much closer to the “content of their character” criteria Dr. King espoused…and it’s all of our faults, black and white.
…and, I heard “cracker”…twice…very clearly the second time. What sense does “tracker” make, anyway?
Puritan1648 on October 25, 2006 at 1:13 AM
…whether it was “cracker” or “tracker” (whatever that would mean in the context in which it was used), the Dems were the first who pulled the racism card out of the deck. The whole idea of a winking blonde saying that she’d met him at the Mansion evoking visions of Mandingo is stupid.
If the Dems want to play the miscegenation card, don’t let ‘em get away with it. There’s been too much letting Dems run rampant over the last six years of “looking presidential”. It has emboldened villainy.
…besides, I heard cracker. That’s my story and I’m sticking by it.
Puritan1648 on October 25, 2006 at 1:18 AM
Well, after listening a few more times, i think it is cracker after all. It’s hard to hear with the background noise, but it does sound more like a K than a T.
Scot on October 25, 2006 at 1:25 AM
How is it that they get away with saying the vilest racist things and they get a pass but a conservative makes a remark about an old man at his 300th birthday celebration and he’s the “white devil”?
This flurking shnit pushes the bile to the back of my cracka throat…
x95b10 on October 25, 2006 at 1:39 AM
interesting points puritan, although i would argue that the reason you don’t see more concern over korean or indian immigrants who are in poverty is because they weren’t enslaved for 300 years…all of the other immigrant groups that came to america (asians, the irish, the polish) were able to integrate into our society through inter-marriage and gradually blend in, however blacks don’t have that advantage, they are easier to pick out and discriminate against because they always have the distinctly different color of their skin. As for institutional racism, it is much less prevalent then it was, there are very few open racists, but old prejudices linger in private. I think there is a point to be made, on the other hand, that some blacks are developing an unhealthy sense of entitlement, although that is the least of the problems on the subject.
crr6 on October 25, 2006 at 1:39 AM
I put on the head phones and he actually says both. If you listen he says “you got a tracker, you got a cracker out here…” But then, I hear what I want to sometimes.
RalphyBoy on October 25, 2006 at 1:48 AM
crr6, if you don’t mind me asking – how old are you?… meaning what generation did you grow up in, when was it that you went to this inner-city school?
RightWinged on October 25, 2006 at 4:01 AM
“Tracker”??? That’s flurking shnit. It was clear what he said and anything else is spin, period.
I would call them scumbags but that may offend bags filled with scum.
x95b10 on October 25, 2006 at 4:09 AM
I heard him say “cracker” twice. Like the other posters said, what sense would it make to say “tracker” in that situation?
Assuming that he said cracker, does it even matter? I don’t think most Southern white people take “cracker” as a real insult. Why would they? To say that this is the equivalent of a white person calling a black person the n-word is not accurate. But it does show the hypocrisy of the race-baiting Democrats, and that’s not even news to me any more.
bigbeas on October 25, 2006 at 4:54 AM
He said “Tracker”. Good catch by KP.
tort_feasor on October 25, 2006 at 7:49 AM
Survey says: “tracker.”
Jaibones on October 25, 2006 at 7:59 AM
Anybody for “crapper?”
Valiant on October 25, 2006 at 8:17 AM
I clearly heard “macaca.” Which apparently ends any political career.
Professor Blather on October 25, 2006 at 9:04 AM
I was sure he said “Rosebud”.
Pablo on October 25, 2006 at 9:10 AM
He does not feel it is right for news people to be outside his kids headquarters, I wonder how he felt about his brat showing up, in a champaign bus, at his opponents paid event.
Wade on October 25, 2006 at 9:40 AM
Ian,
If you were the NYT Online you would simply have quietly changed the article. Thanks for having integrity.
greenpiece on October 25, 2006 at 9:41 AM
I agree. Honky didn’t work. The various old world (mild) slurs (wop, dego, etc.) are far out of fashion. Cracker isn’t a real insult either. The race-baiters wish they could find something to really provoke “white” people, but we (yes, even conservatives) are so conditioned now by political correctness, that for us to even be insulted or offended is a racist act, thus we don’t get insulted. I think that’s what angers the lefties the most (well, not the most). They can’t provoke (read, manipulate) us the way they can be manipulated by simple use of (crass) language.
urbancenturion on October 25, 2006 at 9:47 AM
I am from Northeast Tennessee and I gotta say that it just feels like Ford is getting more and more desperate. I really don’t think folks on this end of the state are falling for his slick-willy type persona. I hope I’m right. On a side note, I went to vote Monday and a big ol’ FOXnews van was parked next to the courthouse. Our local FOX affiliate doesn’t have it’s own news division, so this had to be from national headquarters. Just highlighted for me the importance of this race in regard to the larger picture. Of course, what do I know? I’m just a slack jawed, hillbilly, cracker who votes a straight NRA ticket.
Barntender on October 25, 2006 at 9:53 AM
righwinged, i graduated in 05
crr6 on October 25, 2006 at 10:01 AM
I could of sworn I heard “cr” at the beginning, but he was being talked over at the time, so I can accept that he actually said “tracker”.
Esthier on October 25, 2006 at 10:16 AM
Please, accept that he said “tracker” so we don’t all look like morons.
Why would a seasoned politician call someone a “cracker” while standing directly in front of a camera-wielding tracker from his son’s opponent’s campaign? Give it up, people. I expect more mature discourse from this blog, that’s why I come here. When I’m in the mood for moronblogging I go to Ace’s site. :-)
DaveS on October 25, 2006 at 10:29 AM
I wouldn’t have been offended if he had said “cracker”. Reminds me of the old “Nat X” skit.
Even though he didn’t say “cracker”, he should still be fired, though—just like the guy who said “niggardly”. He did say something that sounded like a potentially offensive word.
jdpaz on October 25, 2006 at 10:59 AM
Isn’t it interesting how the black stars of the demo party are …. well, just barely black. Look at the Fords and Barack Osama Bin Laden? Don’t know what my point is . . . just interesting.
Oh, and I vote for “cracker” . . . . its hard to tell, I admit, but since he is a racist, I think that tips it in the direction of “cracker.”
Labamigo on October 25, 2006 at 11:04 AM
…what if he thought he could get away with it?
There’s a report today that there’s a Dem in Minnesota being raked over the coals for saying when running late for an appearance that he was on “Injun time”, not thinking that it would offend, trying to be cute. Ford Sr. was also a bit uncomfortable and peeved, which gets people in the mood to shoot off their mouths.
I personally don’t mind being called “cracker”…or “whitey”, “pastey” (an Asian word of derision from my youth), or “redneck”. As I wrote earlier, most of the air has been let out of those balloons. What ticks me is the double standard.
Puritan1648 on October 25, 2006 at 11:20 AM
Isn’t that basically what George Allen did, use a racist term knowing his words were being recorded?
Supposedly Allen made a slip and meant to say Mohawk or something else weird. If he had said “cracker” and again, I’ll accept that he didn’t, then I imagine he would just say he meant to say “tracker” but just slipped.
Esthier on October 25, 2006 at 11:28 AM
Only in this case “tracker” is infinitely more believable than “cracker”. In Allen’s case, “macaca” is–to be honest– infinitely more believable than “mohowk”.
OMG, you guys are turning into them.
DaveS on October 25, 2006 at 11:34 AM
The only problem with that is that in this particular case there is no double standard. He said “tracker”, because he had a guy tracking him with a camera.
DaveS on October 25, 2006 at 11:36 AM
Maybe he said, “…we have a corker here with the cracker people.” Or, “…we have a makkaker here with the Corker people.”
ahem on October 25, 2006 at 11:45 AM
Well, supposedly he was trying to say mohawk and mullet or I really don’t remember (and never really cared), but basically it was supposedly a mix of two different words.
But your argument was whether or not a seasoned politician would do such a thing knowing his words would be recorded. The answer seems to be yes, unless you believe Allen didn’t mean to say Macaca.
And I think the double standard Puritan1648 was talking about wasn’t specifically about this case but about racial slurs in general. Because let’s face it, even if he actually did say “cracker”, it wouldn’t be near as damning as someone saying the n-word. In fact, even if it was proven to a scientific certainty (much like when they recorded the “a” in the fameous speech on the moon) very few would really care.
Esthier on October 25, 2006 at 12:00 PM
Come on, folks, mass mea culpa.
Take the high road. He said “tracker”, now that I listened again. Mix regional dialect and accent into the soup and it’s very easy to mishear it, and that’s what we did.
That doesn’t make Sr. a nicer person, just not guilty of this supposed deed. We should let it be.
Freelancer on October 25, 2006 at 12:14 PM
I think he said “I would like to sack her”…oops wrong video.
right2bright on October 25, 2006 at 12:22 PM
Well, supposedly he was trying to say mohawk and mullet or I really don’t remember (and never really cared), but basically it was supposedly a mix of two different words.
Dude…. seriously?
DaveS on October 25, 2006 at 1:20 PM
With all of the kerfuffle, perhaps influenced by suggestion, but upon listening to this again, through Daddy Ford’s speech impediments, the improbably “trackers” DOES seem to be what he’s saying to these old radio-intercepting ears.
Gave rise to a cracking conversation, though. Maybe next time a pretext more grounded in truth will arise, and we can start this all over gain.
Mea culpa.
Puritan1648 on October 25, 2006 at 1:36 PM
That is seriously what was said, yes.
Esthier on October 25, 2006 at 1:51 PM
Is it just me or has the quality of the comments here gone way downhill since this latest round of open signups come on?
TBinSTL on October 25, 2006 at 2:10 PM
Riiigth And Robert Byrd actually said the word
Digger. Not the “N” word , But Digger
Texyank on October 25, 2006 at 2:54 PM
What brought about this confirmation AP? Like I, and others have said, on a relisten after the “tracker” suggestion, it seemed possible at first. But after multiple relistens, it continues to sound like “cracker”. Is the acceptance of “tracker” simply because HFJ said so?
RightWinged on October 25, 2006 at 2:59 PM
That’s what his campaigns official “explanation” was, but that was nothing more than an insult to our intelligence. He very, very clearly said “macaca”.
DaveS on October 25, 2006 at 3:20 PM
Naturally, when comments are opened up to new commenters, you’re going to hear from more goofballs and drive-by trolls as well as folks who make salient points and have something constructive to contribute to a discussion. Over time, many of the trolls get weeded out or just stop commenting.
So, hang in there and don’t be so elitest.
CliffHanger on October 25, 2006 at 3:22 PM
The acceptance is because it is quite obvious what he said.
Here, regarding the George Allen controversy from Wikipedia:
Or from this site, written 2 or 3 weeks ago:
So please, people, quit embarrasing all of us and give it up.
DaveS on October 25, 2006 at 3:26 PM
You are getting pretty annoyed about such a small matter. I fail to understand why, but I won’t press you on it.
Esthier on October 25, 2006 at 3:42 PM
When people on our side start sounding like people at DU (paranoid or insistent that there is some great controversy where there is none) I don’t think its a small matter. Not being nuts is our biggest advantage over them, and is something that we can generally be proud of.
What I don’t understand is why people are getting so worked up over something that the guy didn’t even say.
DaveS on October 25, 2006 at 3:48 PM
They’re getting worked up, because it really sounds like he said “cracker”. I’ve heard the thing several times and still would not be able to say if asked that he definately said “tracker”.
I trust that Ian is correct and for that reason accept that he said “tracker”, but it very much sounds like “cracker”. Even Hannity right now is saying Ford said “cracker”. He just played the clip twice.
Sure you believe it is obvious he’s saying “tracker”, but others disagree.
Esthier on October 25, 2006 at 3:52 PM
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